There's no way that Eric created the Razor angle.
Missing Link
I mean c'mon, Eric is a moamo for cryin out loud. Whoever did think it
up should be credited. The fact is Vince can say what he wants, but a
three on three pitting Razor, Diesel and DiBiase (?) against three of
the top talents from the WCW would make a major PPV. If Eric actually
handles this angle well (and I am skeptical given the atrocious booking
in the WCW...Sting/Luger, DOD/Horsemen, Orndorf/Horsemen, etc.), he will
have a potentially great PPV. He has to make Razor, et al, a force to
be reckoned with, however. If they come in and job, it totally ruins
the angle. This angle is not genius, however. Or if it is, then it
should be credited to Vince, as it is a pretty clear rip on the Flair
"real world champ" thing. Eric should do just what Vince did, let the
brash new comer shine.
The Missing Link
Trevor Barrie
Missing Link <r...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
>I mean c'mon, Eric is a moamo for cryin out loud. Whoever did think it
>up should be credited.
Well, that was my first thought. Then again, maybe all the stupid
thing WCW has done over the past couple of years have been somebody
else's idea, and this is Eric's first angle. How would we know?
Bmoore2112
In article <4ollrh$4...@bud.peinet.pe.ca>, tba...@cycor.ca (Trevor Barrie)
writes:
>Well, that was my first thought. Then again, maybe all the stupid
>thing WCW has done over the past couple of years have been somebody
>else's idea, and this is Eric's first angle. How would we know?
Figger the odds!
Bairman
AP6...@american.edu
I missed the last episode of NITRO. Could someone please tell me about RAZOR's
enterance. What name is he going by?
THANKS IN ADVANCE _ ADAM
John Davis
AP6...@american.edu wrote:
Razor was in his Razor character (minus the costume), but they didn't say his name due to copyright laws. WWF is
suing WCW anyway because they used Raor in his WWF angle, which is a trademark of Titan Sports, and they
said "Billionare Ted" and "Nacho Man" which are both copyright material of WWF.
Jeff Novell
jo...@hevanet.com (John Davis) spouted:
!>AP6...@american.edu wrote:
!>>I missed the last episode of NITRO. Could someone please tell me
about RAZOR's
!>> enterance. What name is he going by?
!>>THANKS IN ADVANCE _ ADAM
!>Razor was in his Razor character (minus the costume), but they
didn't say his name due to copyright laws. WWF is
!>suing WCW anyway because they used Raor in his WWF angle, which is a
trademark of Titan Sports, and they
!>said "Billionare Ted" and "Nacho Man" which are both copyright
material of WWF.
We've got so many wanna-be lawyers here...
You cannot copyright a "gimmick". If the WWF wanted to hire a 6'8"
orange, balding, steroid filled freak that never loses, they can.
Razor Ramon can work in the WWF under the name "The Razor" or "Ramon
Hall" or whatever, so long as it is not "RAZOR RAMON". He can still
have his Miami/Cuban gimmick.
What if it WASN'T a gimmick? What if Scott Hall was really Ramon
Hallido, a Cuban hailing from Miami? You're saying he would have to
lose his accent and talk like a caucasion?
Thin kabout what you're saying, buddy...
As for "Billionaire Ted" and the "Nacho Man", they very well MAY be
copyrighted. I DOUBT IT, as that would mean Vince would have to pay
money to copyright those two... and there's really no reason to do it.
But, let's say that he did. You're arguing that Hall can't STATE THE
WORDS Billionaire Ted or Nacho Man on TV without fear of lawsuit?
Come on! That is NOT what the copyright laws protect.
To put your flawed logic to test: Eric Bischoff should be sued each
time he gives the RAW results because everytime he mentions a WWF
wrestler's name, he's braking the law. Same with when Joey Styles on
ECW mentions (coincidently) that Shane Douglas is wiping his ass with
a Razor Ramon T-shirt. The Philadelphia Phillies are a copyrighted &
trademarked name/logo. When ESPN shows the logo & says "Philadelphia
Phillies", are they breaking the law? When a radio station says
Phillies, are they breaking the law?
I could continue, but I believe I've sufficiently destroyed your
faulty logic.
Jeff
"You can't always get what you want...But if you try
sometime, you just might find... you get what you need."
-- Jagger/Richards
Jeff Novell - Je...@philly.infi.net
Florida State Seminoles - 1993, 1996 National Champions!
Trevor Barrie
je...@philly.infi.net (Jeff Novell) wrote:
>We've got so many wanna-be lawyers here...
No kidding.
>You cannot copyright a "gimmick".
No, but you can trademark it.
>If the WWF wanted to hire a 6'8"
>orange, balding, steroid filled freak that never loses, they can.
Even if he adopted Hogan's mannerisms and speech patterns? I rather
suspect they'd be sued rapidly.
>Razor Ramon can work in [WCW] under the name "The Razor" or "Ramon
>Hall" or whatever, so long as it is not "RAZOR RAMON". He can still
>have his Miami/Cuban gimmick.
>What if it WASN'T a gimmick? What if Scott Hall was really Ramon
>Hallido, a Cuban hailing from Miami? You're saying he would have to
>lose his accent and talk like a caucasion?
No, but since it IS a gimmick, the point is moot. Obviously a
corporation couldn't claim ownership of a person's real personality,
but if it's a persona they created for him, I rather suspect they can.
>As for "Billionaire Ted" and the "Nacho Man", they very well MAY be
>copyrighted. I DOUBT IT, as that would mean Vince would have to pay
>money to copyright those two... and there's really no reason to do it.
You know, you shouldn't throw around comments like "wannabe lawyers"
unless you're _sure_ you know whereof you speak. Anything you create
is _by default_ copyrighted. No money needs to be paid.
>But, let's say that he did. You're arguing that Hall can't STATE THE
>WORDS Billionaire Ted or Nacho Man on TV without fear of lawsuit?
>Come on! That is NOT what the copyright laws protect.
You're almost certainly right about this, though.