(Meta) About My Heartattack
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When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
Syvyn11
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try to send good vibes, Inci.
Do you have to report weight gain just for the next week or is this
permanent?
deem...@aol.com
Glad you're okay. I remember reading somewhere that a large % of
"massive heart attacks that come out of nowhere" have been preceded by
smaller ones that either aren't recognized or ignored. That's why
we're all supposed to get annual physicals.
David Loewe, Jr.
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<deem...@aol.com>wrote:
>On Nov 7, 9:39�am, �~����u�~�
My father died from one when he was 40.
I'm 40 and like my fathe on blood pressure meds. My dad was over
weight where I'm active and fit. With family history any little thing
I pay attention to and if I question it I go to my doctor. That's
likely what saved me from a bigger ordeal
rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:15:03 -0800 (PST), "deem...@aol.com"
> <deem...@aol.com>wrote:
>
>
You what's even crazier? The fact that something comes out of nowhere
and it's nowhere in your family's history.
Just about all the males in my family are smokers...yet I (who doesn't
smoke) end up with Cancer. Ridiculous.
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<rwa2...@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:15:03 -0800 (PST), "deem...@aol.com"
>> <deem...@aol.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, �~����u�~�
I'm in shape and always watched my diet, guess it just goes to show
you things aren't always that simple
Gr�e
> My father died from one when he was 40.
> I'm 40 and like my fathe on blood pressure meds. My dad was over
> weight where I'm active and fit. With family history any little thing
> I pay attention to and if I question it I go to my doctor. That's
> likely what saved me from a bigger ordeal
My father is the same way. He hasn't died from a heart attack yet, but all
the males on my side of the family die of heart attacks shortly after
turning 59. He's nearly 58.
MoParMaN
Damn, your luck for sure. Take care of yourself.
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>... keep the change, you filthy animal.
Good luck, friend.
I hope the feaux tiggers make it an easy weekend for you.
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Steve Cutchen
<shendryx...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> �~����u�~� wrote:
> > Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
> >
> > When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> > seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> > so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> > It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> > sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> > or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> > talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> > with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> > asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> > fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> > to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> > constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> > hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> > return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> > in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> > have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> > I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
> Damn, your luck for sure. Take care of yourself.
Hope kicking the sticks works for ya. My father-in-law could never
quit, and he was a man's man. So I know it has to be hard.
Really glad you got taken care of.
Tom Enright
> My father is the same way. He hasn't died from a heart attack yet, but all
> the males on my side of the family die of heart attacks shortly after
> turning 59. He's nearly 58.
Everyone in my family lives for ever. Trade you.
-Tom Enright
rafiki
> > <deemsb...@aol.com>wrote:
Wait, you have / had cancer???? Explain.
--rafiki
Thank you drive through.
rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
Long story short: left side first feels like someone tried to inflate
my kidney with helium then a pain that knocked me down. Got rushed to
the ER, thought it was kidney stones (my mom had them years ago). After
a battery of tests the doctor says: Cancer.
Yeah...it's like someone just slapped you with a sap glove to wake you up.
Drs say I need to get operated to remove the whole kidney, no chemo, no
radiation.
Afterward the surgeons tell me that I was at Stage 3.5. I wait six
months more and not only do I have to get it removed, but I would've had
to have gone to chemo to hope it didn't spread past my kidney.
Never smoked, drink occasionally...pretty healthy otherwise. But you
hear cancer and you're like WHAT THE FUCK?
Been good afterward, regular checkups and no sign of reoccurrence for 3
years now. Counting my blessings.
Ironically, co-workers' dad died of cancer a couple of years ago. The
dad didn't notice the extreme weight loss he was going through (a
definite sign of cancer), get checked up and the tumor metastasized and
it spread. Died within 6 months of diagnosis.
Yeah, Cancer's a fucking bitch.
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"Tom Enright" <freddy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 7, 1:17 pm, "Gr�e" <a...@a.com> wrote:
> My father is the same way. He hasn't died from a heart attack yet, but all
> the males on my side of the family die of heart attacks shortly after
> turning 59. He's nearly 58.
Everyone in my family lives for ever. Trade you.
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So how is great, great, great, great, great granny Enright these days?
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Glad to hear that things turned out well and good luck to you. I hope
that in addition to stopping smoking, you look at your diet and make
positive changes. Artery blockages indicate a lot of gunk in your
system and are generally helped by diet change.
While I understand the discomfort from the needles, it could be
worse. A colleague of mine recently underwent brain surgery for
pituitary cancer (he's 48). The first procedure was through the nasal
cavity. There was a complication a few days later, which required the
surgeons to open his skull, but that wasn't the worst of it. A bit
later, they had to use a gamma knife. Basically, they start by taking
a 20lb helmet and they screw it to your skull. For someone coming out
of brain surgery, a local really doesn't help so you get to feel it
all. Then they screw the helmet to the table and blast the bits with
radiation. My friend said, "then the fun comes ... they have to take
the helmet off," and they reverse the procedure. They give you a
couple of packs for your head and tell you that it should stop
bleeding in a day or two.
He's currently in the "not anything over xlbs program" too, and needs
to go back for an MRI. Count your blessings and be thankful for what
you have.
Take care.
mianderson
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> >> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:15:03 -0800 (PST), "deemsb...@aol.com"
> >> <deemsb...@aol.com>wrote:
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> >>> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
in this case your family history trumps all that....having a dad who
died from a heart attack at 69 is one thing......40 is entirely
different, and really that trumps all other risk factors.....
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mianderson
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> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
> <sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
>
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> > Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> > When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> > seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> > so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> > It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> > sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> > or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> > talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> > with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> > asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> > fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> > to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> > constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> > hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> > return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> > in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> > have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> > I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
> Glad to hear that things turned out well and good luck to you. I hope
> that in addition to stopping smoking, you look at your diet and make
> positive changes. Artery blockages indicate a lot of gunk in your
> system and are generally helped by diet change.
the five most important risk factors for coronary artery disease are
family history, hypertension, diabetes, dyslipidemia(cholesterol), and
smoking.
Of these, diet change(for a person who is thin and active) may or may
not help a little with one of those 5 risk factors(cholesterol)...and
for all I know his cholesterol may be great now...stopping smoking and
agressively treating his hypertension would be much more beneficial
than diet change if he is thin and active already.
>
> While I understand the discomfort from the needles, it could be
> worse. A colleague of mine recently underwent brain surgery for
> pituitary cancer (he's 48). The first procedure was through the nasal
> cavity. There was a complication a few days later, which required the
> surgeons to open his skull, but that wasn't the worst of it. A bit
> later, they had to use a gamma knife. Basically, they start by taking
> a 20lb helmet and they screw it to your skull. For someone coming out
> of brain surgery, a local really doesn't help so you get to feel it
> all. Then they screw the helmet to the table and blast the bits with
> radiation. My friend said, "then the fun comes ... they have to take
> the helmet off," and they reverse the procedure. They give you a
> couple of packs for your head and tell you that it should stop
> bleeding in a day or two.
>
> He's currently in the "not anything over xlbs program" too, and needs
> to go back for an MRI. Count your blessings and be thankful for what
> you have.
>
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<tom_sa...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>On Nov 7, 9:39 am, �~����u�~�
><sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
>> Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>>
>> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
>> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
>> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
>> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
>> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
>> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
>> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
>> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
>> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
>> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
>> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
>> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
>> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
>> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
>> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
>> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
>> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
>Glad to hear that things turned out well and good luck to you. I hope
>that in addition to stopping smoking, you look at your diet and make
>positive changes. Artery blockages indicate a lot of gunk in your
>system and are generally helped by diet change.
That's what I don't understand. I've eaten healthy since I was 20. I
can count on my fingers the times I eat fastfood in a year. I use low
cholesterol cooking spray instead of butter. Olive oil for frying, and
low to no salt at all. My vice is I smoked about 1/2 to 3/4 pack per
day of Marlboro lights. My doctor is still as dumbfounded as I am over
all of this. It's almost as if someone magically blocked my arteries
overnight.
mianderson
<sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
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>
>
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> >On Nov 7, 9:39 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
??? did your doctor graduate from a mail order medical school and do
a mail order residency? The family history is the trigger
here......without question.
. It's almost as if someone magically blocked my arteries
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<miande...@gmail.com>wrote:
>On Nov 8, 11:00�am, "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com" <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, �~����u�~�
I have been on metoprolol 50mg and benicar hct 25mg for 2yrs now for
hypertension. I check my bp 3 times a day and avg. 130/80. I am 5' 11"
and weigh 180lbs and consider myself to be very active.
mianderson
<sckf...@lycos.com It's almost as if someone magically blocked
my arteries
> overnight.
My grandmother is 92 and probably has the coronary arteries of a 21
year old....she also has never gone a day without dropping some piece
of meat in a massive frying pan filled with oil..........
Im sure old age will catch up with her in the next 10 or so years and
she'll die of renal failure or whatever, but with heart disease you
can't underestimate the importance of the family history.....
mianderson
well I would try to go down to about 165 or so at that
height......your bp readings seem good. Congrats on that.
The key with a pt whoe dad died of a heart attack at age 40 and
himself experienced a heart attack at 40 is to get him to 55-60 with
meds, procedures, etc........it is sometimes done. I hope things work
out.
TimV
Given that your father died so young, it is possible that you have a
genetic abnormality that leads to familial hypercholersterolemia. You
should have your physician do genetic tests to determine whether you
have one of the mutations and whether you are homozygous or heterozygous
as the treatment options differ considerably.
T
stephenJ
> That's what I don't understand. I've eaten healthy since I was 20. I
> can count on my fingers the times I eat fastfood in a year. I use low
> cholesterol cooking spray instead of butter. Olive oil for frying, and
> low to no salt at all. My vice is I smoked about 1/2 to 3/4 pack per
> day of Marlboro lights.
I thought smoking makes one an automatic high-risk candidate for a heart
attack, no matter how well one otherwise takes care of oneself.
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This week I have to rest, no lifting anything over 5lbs
Next week I can return to wrok, the 3rd week I have my first follow up
where thetesting begins
NikonNurse
"�~����u�~�" <sck...@lycos.com > wrote in message
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> Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
Depending on the damage to your heart muscle, you are at risk for congestive
heart failure...common after heart attacks...One of the first indicators of
failure(weak pump)....before you start having symptoms, is a 2-5 lb weight
gain...I would call at 2 or 3 lbs...if you have gained 5, you will probably
be really short of breath.
NikonNurse
But after you feel well...and make a choice to falter in your diet
instructions...(prepared meals, frozen foods, soda and diet sodas, luncheon
meats)......all high in sodium...I would keep an eye on the weight.
NikonNurse
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
Glad you're okay. I remember reading somewhere that a large % of
"massive heart attacks that come out of nowhere" have been preceded by
smaller ones that either aren't recognized or ignored. That's why
we're all supposed to get annual physicals.
Speaking from a bit of experience
BTW...nurse at a heart hospital...AND mom, at 37 years old, had a feeling
(not a pain) of numbness in her RIGHT shoulder that she also felt she would
wait to check out.......She went to bed that night and never came out of
it...she had a 100% blockage of her Left Main Coronary Artery and poof! She
was done.
YOu guys reading this....get a heart scan at your local hospital...this
shows advanced blockage in your arteries. ANd I dont know how many healthy,
marathon runners have come in, got that test and found they were just shy of
the big one...and caught it before it happened.
NikonNurse
Im glad your okay...
NikonNurse
"Tom Enright" <freddy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My father is the same way. He hasn't died from a heart attack yet, but all
> the males on my side of the family die of heart attacks shortly after
> turning 59. He's nearly 58.
Everyone in my family lives for ever. Trade you.
I have both, one side, drops dead from Heart Disease, the other...lives
until 95 and loses their minds 10 years prior to that...
NikonNurse
many people have congenital arthresclerosis...they have higher cholesterol
just cuz....this will line your artery walls....and if you add smoking to
it...and the act of that just narrows those arteries.....you have a ticking
time bomb....
Hopefully you are on Chantix and a statin. The SINGLE one thing you can do
to ward off evil juju is QUIT smoking....
Guy Namechanger
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<nik...@yachoo.com>wrote:
I'm gonna easily gain 5lbs. I'm snacking up a storm over here. It's
either snack on something or light up a smoke. I'll take the 5lbs over
the smoking anyday
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Anthony Summers
> I'm gonna easily gain 5lbs. I'm snacking up a storm over here. It's
> either snack on something or light up a smoke. I'll take the 5lbs over
> the smoking anyday
The Patch is your friend.
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<nik...@yachoo.com>wrote:
I didn't smoke for 2 days in the hospital. I got out and have no
desire to do it. I get minor cravings at times but just snack on some
certs, celery, or cheez-it's. No Chantrix, taking Paxil and Lipitor
mianderson
> ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤ wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> > <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
nonsense...if you have familial hypercholestermia it will be *VERY*
evident on a simple lipid panel....Im sure he has had several of those
given that he has had access to primary care physicians. If the lipid
levels are way out of whack, you dont need to do genetic testing for
that because if you have it then the lipid levels will be way out of
whack.
he's just got a very severe family history of CAD.....it happens.
to determine whether you
> have one of the mutations and whether you are homozygous or heterozygous
> as the treatment options differ considerably.
even if you are heterozygous, you'll still see out of whack(although
not as extreme) lipid abnormalities.......Im sure his pcp knows this
and if his lipid levels were severely abnormal he's considered this.
>
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TimV
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
>>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
Some people with FH do not necessarily show obvious signs in lipid
tests, which is why they are developing rapid DNA test panels.
T
mianderson
> mianderson wrote:
> > On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> >>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
??? So if some FH pts don't have dyslipedmia, whats the mechanism for
their CAD secondary to FH? Not trying to be a dick here, just
curious.........
>
> T
TimV
> On Nov 8, 5:17 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>> mianderson wrote:
>>> On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
>>>>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
By obvious signs, I'm talking about the huge increases over the normal
range that you see in classically recognized FH. They will have high
serum cholesterol but at the top range of, say, someone with a poor
diet. The early onset of atherosclerosis is due to elevated cholesterol
since they were children. Basically, the mutations involved do not
necessarily give a single phenotype but can result in various degrees of
function.
Since the OP didn't mention cholesterol, we don't know if it was high or
not. If not, then this wouldn't really apply.
T
NikonNurse
just snack on the right things(you proably wont like this!! I wouldnt..)
http://wellnessfeatures.christushealth.org/bless_your_heart/heart_workbook/pdfs/LowSodiumSnacks.pdf
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<nik...@yachoo.com>wrote:
I went from being a salt-a-holic to not even using the stuff the last
2yrs. When I shop I read the labels and buy low to no sodium,
cholesterol, and trans fat.
mianderson
> mianderson wrote:
> > On Nov 8, 5:17 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >> mianderson wrote:
> >>> On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> >>>>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
yeah I know that, but he(from his above posts) already has a pcp and
is only on htn meds. So he has clearly had a lipid panel or two or
three in the last several years, and it wasn't a 360/27/240 type of
deal either obviously(unless the pcp is just a kook)........
But say he did have severe dyslipidemia that could be consistent with
either just piss poor luck/diet/genes or FH(heterozygous).......from a
practical standpoint, how would the treatment options differ for a
heterozygous FH pt and your normal pt with just a really crappy lipid
panel who has a family history of dyslipidemia and is 320 lbs?
TimV
> On Nov 8, 6:14 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>> mianderson wrote:
>>> On Nov 8, 5:17 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>>>> mianderson wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
>>>>>>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
There are other drugs they add to the statin regimens for FH patients.
You're the physician, you should know that.
T
mianderson
> mianderson wrote:
> > On Nov 8, 6:14 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >> mianderson wrote:
> >>> On Nov 8, 5:17 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >>>> mianderson wrote:
> >>>>> On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, TimV <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> >>>>>>> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
and there are other drugs we add to the statin regimen for *all*
dyslipidemia pts who don't achieve eulipidemia with a statin
alone.......
I mean if someone has a shitty lipid panel we treat the
numbers.....then after another lipid panel if a statin didn't do the
trick, we'll add a fibrate or a resin or niacin or somesuch depending
on *where* the problems lie....
my question is- what changes that basic algorithm with respect to a
shitty lipid panel in the setting of a heterozygous FH pt vs just your
usual shitty lipid panel? IOW, why the need for expensive genetic
testing in that situation?
rafiki
<rwa2p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> rafiki wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 9:20 am, "rwa2play, The Northern Lariat"> >>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:15:03 -0800 (PST), "deemsb...@aol.com"
> >>> <deemsb...@aol.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> On Nov 7, 9:39 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
> >>>> <sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
>
> >>>>> Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> >>>>> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> >>>>> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> >>>>> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> >>>>> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> >>>>> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> >>>>> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> >>>>> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> >>>>> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> >>>>> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> >>>>> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> >>>>> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> >>>>> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> >>>>> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> >>>>> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> >>>>> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> >>>>> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> >>>>> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
> >>>> "massive heart attacks that come out of nowhere" have been preceded by
> >>>> smaller ones that either aren't recognized or ignored. That's why
> >>>> we're all supposed to get annual physicals.
>
> >>> My father died from one when he was 40.
> >>> I'm 40 and like my fathe on blood pressure meds. My dad was over
> >>> weight where I'm active and fit. With family history any little thing
> >>> I pay attention to and if I question it I go to my doctor. That's
> >>> likely what saved me from a bigger ordeal
>
> >> and it's nowhere in your family's history.
>
> >> Just about all the males in my family are smokers...yet I (who doesn't
> >> smoke) end up with Cancer. Ridiculous.
>
> >> --
> >> rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
> >> RIP Misawa-san.
>
> >> I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.
> >> Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
> >> until you hear them speak.
>
> > Wait, you have / had cancer???? Explain.
>
> Long story short: left side first feels like someone tried to inflate
> my kidney with helium then a pain that knocked me down. Got rushed to
> the ER, thought it was kidney stones (my mom had them years ago). After
> a battery of tests the doctor says: Cancer.
>
> Yeah...it's like someone just slapped you with a sap glove to wake you up.
>
> Drs say I need to get operated to remove the whole kidney, no chemo, no
> radiation.
>
> Afterward the surgeons tell me that I was at Stage 3.5. I wait six
> months more and not only do I have to get it removed, but I would've had
> to have gone to chemo to hope it didn't spread past my kidney.
>
> Never smoked, drink occasionally...pretty healthy otherwise. But you
> hear cancer and you're like WHAT THE FUCK?
>
> Been good afterward, regular checkups and no sign of reoccurrence for 3
> years now. Counting my blessings.
>
> Ironically, co-workers' dad died of cancer a couple of years ago. The
> dad didn't notice the extreme weight loss he was going through (a
> definite sign of cancer), get checked up and the tumor metastasized and
> it spread. Died within 6 months of diagnosis.
>
> Yeah, Cancer's a fucking bitch.
>
> --
> rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
> RIP Misawa-san.
>
> I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.
> Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
> until you hear them speak.
Dang glad ur alright. I bet ya gotta watch what ya eat. My cousin
had advanced cancer and has to watch what she eats, only organic
stuff. Thankfully she recovered too.
--rafiki
Thank you drive through.
mianderson
I buy a lot of organic stuff too, but for *entirely* different
reasons....*entirely*.....
If anyone thinks an organic apple is healthier than a non organic apple
(and Im not even sure wtf that means), they are crazy.....
Thankfully she recovered too.
>
> --rafiki
>
> Thank you drive through.- Hide quoted text -
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<cla...@excite.com>wrote:
>yeah I know that, but he(from his above posts) already has a pcp and
>is only on htn meds. So he has clearly had a lipid panel or two or
>three in the last several years, and it wasn't a 360/27/240 type of
>deal either obviously(unless the pcp is just a kook)........
278/196/280
mianderson
>
> >yeah I know that, but he(from his above posts) already has a pcp and
> >is only on htn meds. So he has clearly had a lipid panel or two or
> >three in the last several years, and it wasn't a 360/27/240 type of
> >deal either obviously(unless the pcp is just a kook)........
>
> 278/196/280
whats the hdl?
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<cla...@excite.com>wrote:
>On Nov 8, 8:24�pm, �~����u�~�
HDL??
All I know is when my cholestrol was measured I ask the doc how it was
and he said slightly high. I ask about the numbers and he said 278/196
and 280. I didn't get to ask him any more because the nurse then wisk
me away saying I was having a heart attack. At least she knew I was
because I felt completely perfect
mianderson
>
> >On Nov 8, 8:24 pm, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
> ><sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:27:16 -0800 (PST), mianderson
> >> <clay...@excite.com>wrote:
>
> >> >yeah I know that, but he(from his above posts) already has a pcp and
> >> >is only on htn meds. So he has clearly had a lipid panel or two or
> >> >three in the last several years, and it wasn't a 360/27/240 type of
> >> >deal either obviously(unless the pcp is just a kook)........
>
> >> 278/196/280
>
> >whats the hdl?
>
> HDL??
> All I know is when my cholestrol was measured I ask the doc how it was
> and he said slightly high. I ask about the numbers and he said 278/196
> and 280. I didn't get to ask him any more because the nurse then wisk
> me away saying I was having a heart attack. At least she knew I was
> because I felt completely perfect
they picked that up from the ekg or cardiac enzymes.......
I dont know the whole story, but you really need to do a little
research on your own(it is your health after all) and next time you go
to your pcp ask some *real* questions about serious things like the
best way to further reduce each cardiac risk factor.......spefically
(in your case) maximizing your hdl/ldl levels, continuing smoking
cessation, and maintaining an optimal fasting blood glucose level....
Perkoff
<sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
Karma, ain't it a bitch.
Perkoff
<sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:15:03 -0800 (PST), "deemsb...@aol.com"
> <deemsb...@aol.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> >"massive heart attacks that come out of nowhere" have been preceded by
> >smaller ones that either aren't recognized or ignored. That's why
> >we're all supposed to get annual physicals.
>
> My father died from one when he was 40.
> I'm 40 and like my fathe on blood pressure meds. My dad was over
> weight where I'm active and fit. With family history any little thing
> I pay attention to and if I question it I go to my doctor. That's
> likely what saved me from a bigger ordeal
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
"mianderson" <cla...@excite.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 8, 11:15 am, �~����u�~�> <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 7, 9:39 am, �~����u�~�
> ><sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> >> Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> >> When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> >> seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> >> so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> >> It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> >> sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> >> or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> >> talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> >> with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> >> asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> >> fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> >> to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> >> constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> >> hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> >> return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> >> in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> >> have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> >> I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
> >that in addition to stopping smoking, you look at your diet and make
> >positive changes. Artery blockages indicate a lot of gunk in your
> >system and are generally helped by diet change.
>
> That's what I don't understand. I've eaten healthy since I was 20. I
> can count on my fingers the times I eat fastfood in a year. I use low
> cholesterol cooking spray instead of butter. Olive oil for frying, and
> low to no salt at all. My vice is I smoked about 1/2 to 3/4 pack per
> day of Marlboro lights. My doctor is still as dumbfounded as I am over
> all of this
??? did your doctor graduate from a mail order medical school and do
a mail order residency?
~~~~
When he walks into the room does he say "Hi everybody!"?
LG
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Hollywood is. - inspired by Ahmed Johnson's Beer Belly v2.0
David E. Powell
<lord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "mianderson" <clay...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4bf97e7c-84d8-43c3...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 8, 11:15 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
> <sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:00:11 -0800 (PST), "tom_sawye...@yahoo.com"
> > <tom_sawye...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
"Please state the nature of the medical emergency"
But yeah on diet and all it seems fine. Have they done the catheter
thing to unblock any blood vessels?
Maybe it is something they will figure out eventually, something not
just with metabolism but the blood vessels themselves. Stick around
Inc you keep RSPW interesting.
DEP
(Was Inc's favorite wrestler Ice Train?)
> LG
> --
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"Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:Y7edncWTOLesAGrX...@posted.localnet...
>
> ??? did your doctor graduate from a mail order medical school and do
> a mail order residency?
>
same place you got yours in government and sociology, how nice.
Mhoram
in message news:Y7edncWTOLesAGrX...@posted.localnet...
>
Probably, since the cholesterol numbers he posted are definitely a cardiac
risk factor. That, along with smoking and family history are enough to give
you a heart attack no matter how well (otherwise) that you take care of
yourself.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalidd> wrote in message
news:d1666$4af7b1b6$a666682f$30...@ALLTEL.NET...
Please to be learning how to follow threads.
Or keep looking like an ignorant turd.
Your choice.
LG
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NikonNurse
I think that is your ckmb...(cardiac markers)
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
>
> "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalidd> wrote in message
> news:d1666$4af7b1b6$a666682f$30...@ALLTEL.NET...
>>
>> "Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!" <lor...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote in message news:Y7edncWTOLesAGrX...@posted.localnet...
>>
>>>
>>> ??? did your doctor graduate from a mail order medical school and do
>>> a mail order residency?
>>>
>>
>> same place you got yours in government and sociology, how nice.
>
> Please to be learning how to follow threads.
Please to be never poasting again, thankee-sai.
>
> Or keep looking at an ignorant turd.
>
> Your choice.
Freek
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:39:12 -0500, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤ <sckf...@lycos.com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Since I have friends that have asked from usenet here are the details:
>
> >When I was working on 10/29/09 I thought I pulled a muscle but it
> >seems I had a mild heart attack. I kept feeling my left hand go numb
> >so I said after Halloween if it's still going numb I'll go see my doc.
> >It stopped Sunday but started Tuesday so I went in on Wed. and my doc
> >sent me for bloodwork at the hospital. He said I'd either be sent home
> >or I'd be admitted. Had no clue what I'd be admitted for but as I was
> >talking on my cell a nurse ran out asking for me. She screamed to come
> >with her because I was having a heart attack. I looked at her and
> >asked,'ME?? But I have no chest pain or shortness of breath. I feel
> >fine are you sure it's ME??" I had to have a heart stent procedure due
> >to a 90% blockage in one artery. The worst part of this all was the
> >constant needles being stuck in me for blood. Took 2 days in the
> >hospital and now can't lift anything over 5lbs for a week. Can't
> >return to work for a week. Have to report any weight gains over 5lbs
> >in the next week. So I quit smoking, have to rest, can't workout and
> >have to report any 5lb weight gain, how is that even possible? Anyway,
> >I'm feeling fantastic and looking forward to this week's vacation!
>
> I'm genuinely interested in what they gave you. It will be absorbed into the
> Collective's knowledge.
>
> Stay living kid. We need updates.
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Could you tell me just one thing cypher and that is what this
collective's knowledge might be? Is it maybe something what could be
compared when you had a stronger star trek obsession saying here
'resistance is futile you all get assimilated'? Any idea how many
laughs that triggered when some supposedly having 170IQ points figure
rambles about an invented science fiction serie? A lot cypher.
No problem if you like star trek i like it myself, except for one
thing being that i dont feel intimidated by borgs or whatever fantasy
you might have for dont you realize that its invented, invented
cypher, the whole star trek series.
You know what really amazes me is if you have such an intellect like
claimed by family, not by you no, how on earth its possible that you
really seem to believe in your assimilating nonsense when this was
purely invented by the star trek show writers.
What intrigues me here is that some guy who got by coincidence a more
then average intellect can be fooled by a serie like star trek and
actually believing in borgs waiting to assimilate that is so
unbelievably far from reality that i can only conclude you suffer from
a schizophrenic disorder, because you also claimed your nonsense when
you was not DXM influenced.
I dont think you will answer this one, because you simply cant its
just the contradiction between having a decent intellect and still
believing in nonsense that doesn't make any sense to me being a down
to the earth person for the time its lasts, because if the Maya's are
right we all go down december 20 2012.
Freek. no cypher no 'regards' anymore you spoiled that long ago.
David E. Powell
too? He seems to have recovered and lived a good long time since.
Rob Cypher
Yes, his alien overlords gave him a really good substitute.
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