Nitro over RAW in Europe !
Tholian
wilf...@via.at (.RIC. (Richard Hack)) wrote:
>Here in Europe I have to put Nitro over RAW now because of the
>following reasons:
>+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
>(friday 8pm).
no, it is shown 11 days after it was shown in the USA
>- RAW is encrypted and censored wich makes it only available in the UK
> but it is also in the same week as in the US (friday 6pmCET)
That is because SKY is intended as being for UK viewers only, TNT is a
pan-European channel.
>- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
>+ very few commercials
Who wants to advertise on TNT when they have very few regular viewers
>+Nitro superior picture and sound quality over Raw
Can't argue with that
>Both WCW and WWF are shown on the same german channel DSF when its
>3 Weeks old on the same timeslot on different days of the week.
>WCW on DSF: Nitro,WCWPro,WCW SatNight, WCW final attack,...and PPVs
>for free.
>WWF on DSF: Raw,Superstars
>RIC
Also look out for AAA on Galavision and NJPW on Eurosport.
Are DSF carrying In Your House do you know ?
>Regards from Austria/Europe
>my email: wilf...@via.at
What time is it - Vadertime
Rock - naughty by nature, Grunge - Violent by design
I'm silent and I'm violent - Canadian Crippler, Chris Benoit
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the nature boy
--Tholian--
.RIC. (Richard Hack)
Here in Europe I have to put Nitro over RAW now because of the
following reasons:
+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
(friday 8pm).
- RAW is encrypted and censored wich makes it only available in the UK
but it is also in the same week as in the US (friday 6pmCET)
- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
+ very few commercials
+Nitro superior picture and sound quality over Raw
Both WCW and WWF are shown on the same german channel DSF when its
3 Weeks old on the same timeslot on different days of the week.
WCW on DSF: Nitro,WCWPro,WCW SatNight, WCW final attack,...and PPVs
for free.
WWF on DSF: Raw,Superstars
RIC
Regards from Austria/Europe
my email: wilf...@via.at
.RIC. (Richard Hack)
On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:43:57 GMT Tho...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk
(Tholian) felt the need to say:
>wilf...@via.at (.RIC. (Richard Hack)) wrote:
>>Here in Europe I have to put Nitro over RAW now because of the
>>following reasons:
>>+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
>>(friday 8pm).
>no, it is shown 11 days after it was shown in the USA
That's impossible my friend....
Isn't it always on Monday and on Friday in Europe?
>>- RAW is encrypted and censored wich makes it only available in the UK
>> but it is also in the same week as in the US (friday 6pmCET)
>That is because SKY is intended as being for UK viewers only, TNT is a
>pan-European channel.
This was neccecary :-(
So what. It's a minus.
>>- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
>>+ very few commercials
>Who wants to advertise on TNT when they have very few regular viewers
TNT doesn't need that money
>>+Nitro superior picture and sound quality over Raw
>Can't argue with that
>>Both WCW and WWF are shown on the same german channel DSF when its
>>3 Weeks old on the same timeslot on different days of the week.
>>WCW on DSF: Nitro,WCWPro,WCW SatNight, WCW final attack,...and PPVs
>>for free.
>>WWF on DSF: Raw,Superstars
>>RIC
>Also look out for AAA on Galavision and NJPW on Eurosport.
El chammmpion de Graaaaand Prix Junior Hiljo del
Santoooooooooooooooooo.!!!!!!!!!! :-)
>Are DSF carrying In Your House do you know ?
No they don't. The WWF doesn't sell it .
I don't know why though?????
>>Regards from Austria/Europe
>>my email: wilf...@via.at
>What time is it - Vadertime
>Rock - naughty by nature, Grunge - Violent by design
>I'm silent and I'm violent - Canadian Crippler, Chris Benoit
>Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the nature boy
>--Tholian--
Paul Mallach
QUOTING .RIC. (Richard Hack) (wilf...@via.at):
> >>+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
> >>(friday 8pm).
> >no, it is shown 11 days after it was shown in the USA
> That's impossible my friend....
> Isn't it always on Monday and on Friday in Europe?
somehow they decided, that we aren't worthy enough. :-(
> >>- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
> >>+ very few commercials
> >Who wants to advertise on TNT when they have very few regular viewers
Hey, their commercials rock! I am really thinking about buying that
electric bed! That thing is cool! Well, OK, perhaps I won't.
> El chammmpion de Graaaaand Prix Junior Hiljo del
> Santoooooooooooooooooo.!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Yep, I have seen that, too. Just wondering, how old that show was. The
first rounds of the tournament were quite boring, from the semifinals on,
it was quite entertaining. I had never seenb Sasuke before, and based on
what I had heard about him, I expected more. Some nice Sentons and
Planchas to the outside, but nothing too great. But I still prefer AAA.
Have you seen the mini-trio match from some weeks ago, with Ultimo
Dragoncito leading the technicos? They had a great spot there, a triple
senton with all three guys landing in the crowd. (Must have been EMLL -
why the fuck don't they have any guardrails?) I really liked that.
bye, Paul.
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David Thornton
In article <6D5RP...@paul.doomsday.shnet.org>, Paul Mallach
<PA...@doomsday.shnet.org> writes
>QUOTING .RIC. (Richard Hack) (wilf...@via.at):
>> >>+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
>> >>(friday 8pm).
>> >no, it is shown 11 days after it was shown in the USA
>> That's impossible my friend....
>> Isn't it always on Monday and on Friday in Europe?
>Do you ever watch it? It was supposed to be shown in the same week, but
>somehow they decided, that we aren't worthy enough. :-(
I think you are right. The Nitro shown on Friday 19th July in Europe
(7pm GMT on TNT) was the one which was made the day after the PPV BatB.
This means it is 11 days after it is shown in the USA. Correct me if I
am wrong. I checked out the TNT teletext and they list all of the
matches from the USA 2 hour edition of Nitro. They are only able to show
some of the matches but it is hinted that this might change, so the full
2 hours could be shown, in the future.
>> >>- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
>> >>+ very few commercials
>> >Who wants to advertise on TNT when they have very few regular viewers
>Hey, their commercials rock! I am really thinking about buying that
>electric bed! That thing is cool! Well, OK, perhaps I won't.
I wouldn't mind that bed too - optional heat and massage...!! Only
joking.
[Snip]
Did you know that most, if not all, of the WCW programming is available
in Europe? Unfortunatly you will have to put up with German commentry
(unless you are German!) but you can see BatB for free on 27th July at,
I believe, 9.30pm GMT on DSF. I don't think that they cut anything and
the interviews are in English too. It's also repeated later in the
night. They also shown half hour shows on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
--
David Thornton
Tholian
wilf...@via.at (.RIC. (Richard Hack)) wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:43:57 GMT Tho...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk
>(Tholian) felt the need to say:
>>wilf...@via.at (.RIC. (Richard Hack)) wrote:
>>>Here in Europe I have to put Nitro over RAW now because of the
>>>following reasons:
>>>+Nitro is NOT encrypted and shown in the same Week as in the USA
>>>(friday 8pm).
>>no, it is shown 11 days after it was shown in the USA
>That's impossible my friend....
>Isn't it always on Monday and on Friday in Europe?
It is 11 days, work it out
>>>- RAW is encrypted and censored wich makes it only available in the UK
>>> but it is also in the same week as in the US (friday 6pmCET)
>>That is because SKY is intended as being for UK viewers only, TNT is a
>>pan-European channel.
>This was neccecary :-(
>So what. It's a minus.
>>>- Nitro is only 50 Minutes
>>>+ very few commercials
>>Who wants to advertise on TNT when they have very few regular viewers
>TNT doesn't need that money
Oh no ! why do they show hte channel then generosity, they aren't like
the BBC.
>>>+Nitro superior picture and sound quality over Raw
>>Can't argue with that
>>>Both WCW and WWF are shown on the same german channel DSF when its
>>>3 Weeks old on the same timeslot on different days of the week.
>>>WCW on DSF: Nitro,WCWPro,WCW SatNight, WCW final attack,...and PPVs
>>>for free.
>>>WWF on DSF: Raw,Superstars
>>>RIC
>>Also look out for AAA on Galavision and NJPW on Eurosport.
>El chammmpion de Graaaaand Prix Junior Hiljo del
>Santoooooooooooooooooo.!!!!!!!!!! :-)
>>Are DSF carrying In Your House do you know ?
>No they don't. The WWF doesn't sell it .
>I don't know why though?????
>>>Regards from Austria/Europe
>>>my email: wilf...@via.at
>>What time is it - Vadertime
>>Rock - naughty by nature, Grunge - Violent by design
>>I'm silent and I'm violent - Canadian Crippler, Chris Benoit
>>Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the nature boy
>>--Tholian--
>RIC
>Regards from Austria/Europe
>my email: wilf...@via.at
What time is it - Vadertime
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K443
>>Are DSF carrying In Your House do you know ?
>No they don't. The WWF doesn't sell it .
>I don't know why though?????
>>>Regards from Austria/Europe
>>>my email: wilf...@via.at
Bullshit. The WWF told me personally that they have tried selling it to
Sky TV, except that Sky do not want to buy. Not the other way around...
David Thornton
In article <4tddk5$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, K443 <k4...@aol.com>
writes
Could you please confirm this, possibly with more information? I am just
about fed up with crappy IYH high lights on the four WWF programmes
which show the viewer pratically nothing compared to the full PPV.
I am going to complain to SKY about the whole IYH situation. Considering
that they have just increased by SKY monthly subscription by 2ukp and
will be adding a third main sports channel next month I see no reason
why they can't start buying the IYH PPV events. SKY subscribers managed
to get SKY to buy the full RAW programming so why not get them to buy
the IYH PPV's too?
I don't want high lights. I want the full IYH PPV live like all the
others. Without them the WWF programming is incomplete.
I am also annoyed that Sky continually censor the four WWF television
programmes. When ever something which could be classed as mildly
upsetting occurs, Sky either:
* Cut to a clip of the fans
* Cut to a clip of the whole arena from the back so we cannot see
anything
* Beep or blank over it
If they must censor the television programmes because they are on at
4pm, 5pm and 6pm (when the kids are still up). I think that they should
have two showings.
Put the uncensored programming on later (if possible, before the
censored programming). SKY didn't always censor the WWF though.
Finally I want all of the Free For All events which occur before all of
the PPV's.
--
David Thornton
Mark Ramsden
David Thornton wrote:
>
> In article <4tddk5$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, K443 <k4...@aol.com>
> writes
>
>
> that they have just increased by SKY monthly subscription by 2ukp and
> will be adding a third main sports channel next month I see no reason
> why they can't start buying the IYH PPV events. SKY subscribers managed
> to get SKY to buy the full RAW programming so why not get them to buy
> the IYH PPV's too?
>
People have been writting to SKY since IYH started and now they are saying they have no intention of
buying IYH as they already have enough wrestling on the network. Although with another sports
channel they may change this.
>
> If they must censor the television programmes because they are on at
> 4pm, 5pm and 6pm (when the kids are still up). I think that they should
> have two showings.
>
> Put the uncensored programming on later (if possible, before the
> censored programming). SKY didn't always censor the WWF though.
From August 23 RAW will be shown at 10.30pm with a repeat at 7.30 am. The 10.30 showing will be
uncensored, at least that is what SKY says. This is a direct action due to the number of complaints
about the editing. (perhaps we will get IYH if we keep on writing !)
Mark Ramsden
David Thornton
In article <31FF0E...@symicron.u-net.com>, Mark Ramsden
<m...@symicron.u-net.com> writes
Thanks for replying.
>People have been writting to SKY since IYH started and now they are saying they
>have no intention of
>buying IYH as they already have enough wrestling on the network. Although with
>another sports
>channel they may change this.
Would you know if there have been a lot of complaints about this? If
there have been (i.e. a few hundred) I think SKY should re-consider
their stance on IYH. It really annoys me when I see Todd and Doc saying
'don't worry, you will see all the high lights next week on the WWF
television network.'
>From August 23 RAW will be shown at 10.30pm with a repeat at 7.30 am. The 10.30
>showing will be
>uncensored, at least that is what SKY says. This is a direct action due to the
>number of complaints
>about the editing. (perhaps we will get IYH if we keep on writing !)
I assume you mean 10.30pm on Friday (instead of 5pm) and 7.30am on
Saturday. I'm glad that SKY subscribers got something out of SKY over
this. The last RAW was so censored it wasn't worth watching. I've
noticed that Sky have the policy of shifting RAW around so much when
they have a live sports event planned. This also really annoys me,
especially when I end up missing it.
Superstars was also censored last week. When Brian Pillman hit one of
the Bushwackers we got the crowd scene again. Perhaps a reorganisation
of the main TV programmes is required with two showings.
I intend to write and complain about the IYH situation. SKY wouldn't
treat football fans in the same way. I wouldn't expect to miss some key
football matches because there were too many football matches already on
SKY. The same goes for WWF. IYH is part of the story line. I really will
complain about this. Any idea who to write too about this?
--
David Thornton
K Hooker
In article <fN6nCGAkBo$xE...@modcon.demon.co.uk>, David Thornton
<da...@modcon.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> In article <4tddk5$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, K443 <k4...@aol.com>
> writes
>
> 4pm, 5pm and 6pm (when the kids are still up). I think that they should
> have two showings.
SKY are now changing the time for RAW to 10pm on a Friday night and it will
be uncensored starting either this week or next.
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Mark Ramsden
David Thornton wrote:
>Would you know if there have been a lot of complaints about this? If
>there have been (i.e. a few hundred) I think SKY should re-consider
>their stance on IYH.
There was a few hundred letters sent by readers of Power Slam. And as they addressed the complaint
in a reply to one of the satalite magazines I assume they have been getting a relativly large number
of complaints
>
>
>
> I assume you mean 10.30pm on Friday (instead of 5pm) and 7.30am on
> Saturday. I'm glad that SKY subscribers got something out of SKY over
> this. The last RAW was so censored it wasn't worth watching. I've
> noticed that Sky have the policy of shifting RAW around so much when
> they have a live sports event planned. This also really annoys me,
> especially when I end up missing it.
>
Yes I do, sorry that was a bit unclear.
> I intend to write and complain about the IYH situation. SKY wouldn't
> treat football fans in the same way. I wouldn't expect to miss some key
> football matches because there were too many football matches already on
> SKY. The same goes for WWF. IYH is part of the story line. I really will
> complain about this. Any idea who to write too about this?
>
I have got the address somewhere, but I'm sure you can get it from their web page WWW.SKY.co.uk I
know you can e-mail them directly from there !!
Mark
Owen Kelly
I'd like to know who to write to as well. If someone can tell me I'll write.
What about writing to TNT as well. I want the complete Nitro, and the WCW
ppvs. Don't you? Who can we write to at TNT?
Owen
In article <OunnnAAMB8$xE...@modcon.demon.co.uk>, David Thornton
<da...@modcon.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <31FF0E...@symicron.u-net.com>, Mark Ramsden
> <m...@symicron.u-net.com> writes
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> >People have been writting to SKY since IYH started and now they are
saying they
> >have no intention of
> >buying IYH as they already have enough wrestling on the network.
Although with
> >another sports
> >channel they may change this.
>
> Would you know if there have been a lot of complaints about this? If
> there have been (i.e. a few hundred) I think SKY should re-consider
> their stance on IYH. It really annoys me when I see Todd and Doc saying
> 'don't worry, you will see all the high lights next week on the WWF
> television network.'
>
> >From August 23 RAW will be shown at 10.30pm with a repeat at 7.30 am.
The 10.30
> >showing will be
> >uncensored, at least that is what SKY says. This is a direct action due
to the
> >number of complaints
> >about the editing. (perhaps we will get IYH if we keep on writing !)
>
> I assume you mean 10.30pm on Friday (instead of 5pm) and 7.30am on
> Saturday. I'm glad that SKY subscribers got something out of SKY over
> this. The last RAW was so censored it wasn't worth watching. I've
> noticed that Sky have the policy of shifting RAW around so much when
> they have a live sports event planned. This also really annoys me,
> especially when I end up missing it.
>
> Superstars was also censored last week. When Brian Pillman hit one of
> the Bushwackers we got the crowd scene again. Perhaps a reorganisation
> of the main TV programmes is required with two showings.
>
> I intend to write and complain about the IYH situation. SKY wouldn't
> treat football fans in the same way. I wouldn't expect to miss some key
> football matches because there were too many football matches already on
> SKY. The same goes for WWF. IYH is part of the story line. I really will
> complain about this. Any idea who to write too about this?
>
> --
> David Thornton
--
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David Thornton
In article <owen-01089...@news.demon.co.uk>, Owen Kelly
<ow...@booha.demon.co.uk> writes
>I'd like to know who to write to as well. If someone can tell me I'll write.
I've just visited the SKY WWW page and there is a form which allows you
to email SKY. I expect we will have to use that to get the most direct
response possible.
>What about writing to TNT as well. I want the complete Nitro, and the WCW
>ppvs. Don't you? Who can we write to at TNT?
Do you have Teletext on your television? There are some WCW pages on TNT
text and they explain that currently TNT does not have the capacity to
show the full Nitro. However it is implied that they will be looking to
extend Nitro in the future. Regarding the other WCW programmes, they are
only available on DSF. I would like TNT to start showing them too. I
would also like the WCW PPV's. DSF is three weeks behind the US and you
can't hear the English commentry. However I don't think that the UK
viewers are likely to get WCW until Turner creates some more channels
over in Europe. TNT only shows classic movies and Nitro at the moment. I
don't know if WBTV is related to Turner (it's coming to SKY soon).
See the TNT text for an address to write too.
McMahon confirmed that RAW will be at 10pm on Sky Sports 2 every Friday
from August 23rd. Perhaps this will be a more regular time slot.
--
David Thornton