WCW to dominate WWF now.
oleg issers
In article <31E06F...@worldnet.att.net> Barbara J. Crawford
wrote:
>Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 22:17:13 -0400
>From: "Barbara J. Crawford" <Gra...@worldnet.att.net>
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
>Subject: Re: WCW to dominate WWF now.
>
>S.Appro wrote:
>>
>> Now that the Hulkster has made the biggest heel turn in the
history of
>> wrestling, Vinceland is done for. This is what everybody is
waiting for.
>> All the people that already hated HH and now all those that
have started
>> to (all the marks) vehemetly hate this man. This will most
definitely
>> bring in the crowds. And, wow, Dibiase is in next. I must say,
things
>> are looking UP in WCW! WWF is in major trouble!
>
>No way is the WWF in "major trouble." WCW still has the old has
beens,
>with the exception of a few. And, oh WOW TED DIBIASE!!! Isn't he
just
>great!!! Bullshit, Ted sucks a fat one! WWF still has the best
talent,
>by far. I agree, some of the WWF's gimmicks need to be done away
with,
>but at least they don't have little Japs wearing masks with horns
on it.
>Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for
now.
Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
coming to WCW.
Barbara J. Crawford
Joel Manglic
S.Appro wrote:
>
> Now that the Hulkster has made the biggest heel turn in the history of
> wrestling, Vinceland is done for. This is what everybody is waiting for.
> All the people that already hated HH and now all those that have started
> to (all the marks) vehemetly hate this man. This will most definitely
> bring in the crowds. And, wow, Dibiase is in next. I must say, things
> are looking UP in WCW! WWF is in major trouble!
I agree!! Having all the STARS and the best angle in wrestling
makes WCW clearly superior.
Glennrc
From: appr...@freenet.fsu.edu (S.Appro):
<<Now that the Hulkster has made the biggest heel turn in the history of
wrestling, Vinceland is done for. This is what everybody is waiting for.
All the people that already hated HH and now all those that have started
to (all the marks) vehemetly hate this man. This will most definitely
bring in the crowds. And, wow, Dibiase is in next. I must say, things
are looking UP in WCW! WWF is in major trouble!>>
As I said in a post I made several days ago. There is nowwhere for this
angle to go but down. How long can EB have the invaders beat the actuall
WCW wrestlers?
- Glenn
"Who is this guy?"
Barbara J. Crawford
Barbara Bloodnut wrote:
> >No way is the WWF in "major trouble." WCW still has the old has beens,
> >with the exception of a few. And, oh WOW TED DIBIASE!!! Isn't he just
> >great!!! Bullshit, Ted sucks a fat one! WWF still has the best talent,
> >by far. I agree, some of the WWF's gimmicks need to be done away with,
> >but at least they don't have little Japs wearing masks with horns on it.
> >Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for now.
>
> What the hell color is the sky in your world? The WWF is beginning to atrophy big time, and even though WCW has some stiffs like Duggan and
Bubba, they make u
>
> By the way, if I was Japanese I would kick your fuckin' ass you piece of fuckin' dog shit!!
>
> -BabsWho the fuck are you talkin' about, other great grapplers? Could you
possibly mean The Nature Boy? He has bigger tits than his wife! True,
Malenko, however the fuck you spell it, is good, but boring. Wait
here's a great grappler, The Macho Man. Yeah he's really great. Oh
here's another one The "Task Master" Kevin Sullivan. His face paint is
really cool. I think that he needs to be in the midget wrestling league
along with the Jap guy with that damn mask.
Here, let me name a few GREAT grapplers from the WWF. Let's see
here, there's Shawn Michaels, Owen Hart, Undertaker, Goldust(freaky, but
you've gotta to give it to him, he is Dustin Rhodes after all), Steve
Austin, British Bulldog, Ahmed Johnson, let us not forget, Bret Hart.
Talk to you fellas later
Bosco
> In article <31E06F...@worldnet.att.net> Barbara J. Crawford
> wrote:
> >Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 22:17:13 -0400
> >From: "Barbara J. Crawford" <Gra...@worldnet.att.net>
> >Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
> >Subject: Re: WCW to dominate WWF now.
> >
> >S.Appro wrote:
> >>
I agree, some of the WWF's gimmicks need to be done away
> with,
> >but at least they don't have little Japs wearing masks with horns
> on it.
> >Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for
> now.
> Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
> wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
> coming to WCW.
Besides, the only guy I saw with horns tonight was a medium sized Mexican,
and a damn talented one at that!
Bosco
--
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"I have found that 100 strokes with a stiff brush can take care of the most stubborn tail."
-Pepe Le Pew. O-
oleg issers
In article <4rpubo$r...@nw003.infi.net> Warrior JS wrote:
>Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 03:12:22 GMT
>From: jes...@infi.net (Warrior JS)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
>Subject: Re: WCW to dominate WWF now.
>
>oleg issers <eaz...@gnn.com> wrote:
>
>>Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
>>wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
>>coming to WCW.
>
>But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a
few people
>off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place. I
liked
>Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but
TTYTT I
> never
>really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
OK, what about sbig steroid freaks with arm tassels and facepaint?
>
>(I'm not being racist, I'm just making an observation. If I have
offended
>anyone, I apologize.)
>
>IMO simple is the way to go.
>
>- Jeremy A Warrior Disciple and Cubs fan and NOT afraid
to
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oleg issers
In article <4rpubo$r...@nw003.infi.net> Warrior JS wrote:
>Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 03:12:22 GMT
>From: jes...@infi.net (Warrior JS)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
>Subject: Re: WCW to dominate WWF now.
>
>oleg issers <eaz...@gnn.com> wrote:
>
>>Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
>>wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
>>coming to WCW.
>
>But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a
few people
>off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place. I
liked
>Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but
TTYTT I
> never
>really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
What about big steroid freaks with tassels and face-paint?
S.Appro
Warrior JS
oleg issers <eaz...@gnn.com> wrote:
>Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
>wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
>coming to WCW.
But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a few people
off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place. I liked
Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but TTYTT I never
really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
(I'm not being racist, I'm just making an observation. If I have offended
Barbara Bloodnut
"Barbara J. Crawford" <Gra...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>with the exception of a few. And, oh WOW TED DIBIASE!!! Isn't he just
>great!!! Bullshit, Ted sucks a fat one! WWF still has the best talent,
>Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for now.
What the hell color is the sky in your world? The WWF is beginning to atrophy big time, and even though WCW has some stiffs like Du=
ggan and Bubba, they make up for it with all the other great grapplers. Face it: McMahon is a stubborn fuck who will not change bec=
ause he became powerful using a certain method and he is too pigheaded to believe that anything else will work. Unfortunately, that=
will be his undoing.
Jamie LaBrash
Barbara J. Crawford (Gra...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> S.Appro wrote:
> >
> > Now that the Hulkster has made the biggest heel turn in the history of
> > wrestling, Vinceland is done for. This is what everybody is waiting for.
> > All the people that already hated HH and now all those that have started
> > to (all the marks) vehemetly hate this man. This will most definitely
> > bring in the crowds. And, wow, Dibiase is in next. I must say, things
> > are looking UP in WCW! WWF is in major trouble!
> No way is the WWF in "major trouble." WCW still has the old has beens,
Hogan. Savage. Flair. Who are the other has beens?
> with the exception of a few.
Name anyone in the WWF who is better then Chris Benoit. Or Rey Misterio,
Jr. Or Eddy Guerrero.
> And, oh WOW TED DIBIASE!!! Isn't he just
> great!!! Bullshit, Ted sucks a fat one! WWF still has the best talent,
Try stale talent and I'd agree with you.
> by far. I agree, some of the WWF's gimmicks need to be done away with,
> but at least they don't have little Japs wearing masks with horns on it.
You truly are ignorant.
> Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for now.
What? You don't like that WCW has done an angle that is better than any
your precious WWF has ever done?
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Rich In KC
The only thing I can say about this thread is that a lot of people are
kidding themselves. WCW has better talent and more of it. They have
the hottest angle on the planet. People have not reacted to a heel
turn like Hogans since I was a kid. People were throwing stuff into
the ring and some fan (may have been a work) charged the ring. This
is only the beginning fo this angle, and if you cannot see the
possibilities, then there is no way that I can explain them to you.
Right now, the WWF has a thin talent pool with the majority of their
talent being new and not yet over. None of their angles are drawing
any serious heat and RAW is getting stomped in the ratings. The WWF
may not be over, but people are right to be concerned.
Rich in KC
Barry L. Moore
jes...@infi.net (Warrior JS) wrote:
>But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a few people
>off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place. I liked
>Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but TTYTT I never
>really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
This is a minor thing, but I noticed that WCW spelled the names
*Psychosis* and *Mysterio* tonight. I always thought they were
spelled as JS typed above. What gives?
Bairman
b...@worldnet.att.net
================
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To forgive is not my policy...
Jeff Amdur
> oleg issers <eaz...@gnn.com> wrote:
>
> >Little Jap with a mask with horns on it is the greates areial
> >wrestler of all time, and BTW he had the gimmick for years before
> >coming to WCW.
>
> But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a few people
> off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place.
Why would they? If they can wrestle and give the fans a good show, as
Liger and the luchadores can, what does it matter what one is wearing?
> I liked
> Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but TTYTT I never
> really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
The Mexican tradition of the masked warrior or masked bandit goes back to
the Aztecs. You can't equate its significance in lucha with the
non-significance of masks (cf. "Who") in American wrestling.
Plus, it's Psicosis's wrestling ability and moves that turn me on. Unlike
the Mexican fans, I for one could care less about the type of mask he
wears; it's how he performs that is important IMHO.
--
Jeff Amdur
Quality foreign language instruction since 1971 (Oy, gevalt! THAT long?!?)
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Jamie LaBrash
Barbara J. Crawford (Gra...@worldnet.att.net) babbled:
> Barbara Bloodnut wrote:> > -BabsWho the fuck are you talkin' about, other great grapplers? Could you
> Malenko, however the fuck you spell it, is good, but boring. Wait
> here's a great grappler, The Macho Man. Yeah he's really great. Oh
> here's another one The "Task Master" Kevin Sullivan. His face paint is
> really cool. I think that he needs to be in the midget wrestling league
> along with the Jap guy with that damn mask.
How about guys like Eddy Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Sting, Steven Regal, Rey
Misterio Jr, Psicosis, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Rick Steiner, Scott
Steiner, The Barbarian, Disco Inferno, Alex Wright, etc.
> Here, let me name a few GREAT grapplers from the WWF. Let's see
> here, there's Shawn Michaels,
He is really good. Too bad he's not nearly as entertaining as a face as
he was as a heel.
> Owen Hart,
Hasn't been nearly as good since he joined the WWF. He's alright.
> Undertaker,
His persona is cool but his wrestling _sucks_.
> Goldust(freaky, but
> you've gotta to give it to him, he is Dustin Rhodes after all),
He's adequate.
> Steve Austin,
Good but why is he jobbing to Savio Vega? Much, MUCH more entertaining
when he was with ECW.
British Bulldog,
Not bad with the right opponent.
> Ahmed Johnson,
Has he learned to sell a move yet?
>let us not forget, Bret Hart.
Actually, we can. He isn't with the WWF right now.
I'll give you these names you can add to the list of good wrestlers in the
WWF. Skip, Lance Cassidy, Justin Hawk Bradshaw, Billy Gunn, HHH, Marc
Mero. And that's about it. Oh, and maybe Brian F'n Pillman once he
recovers from his injuries.
The Bod
> Here, let me name a few GREAT grapplers from the WWF. Let's see
> you've gotta to give it to him, he is Dustin Rhodes after all), Steve
> Austin, British Bulldog, Ahmed Johnson, let us not forget, Bret Hart.
>
> Talk to you fellas later
First off you Dumb bitch Rey Misterio is Mexican not Japanese
Shawn Micheals is a Ric Flair wanabe, Dustin Rhodes Ohhhhhhh he wasn't nothing
and still is nothing, British Bulldog: lost all his quickness and
mobility when he went on the Hulkster Roid plan! Ahmend Johnson yea he
is a bid guy, but what language does this guy speak???
You say Malenko is boring, He would destroy Owen Hart, what has he done
lately??? How pathetic he carries aroung that stupid trophey!!!
What you gonna do brutha, when 350 pounds of fat drops down on you!
Todd "The Bod" Zimmerman
(The Fan who went into the ring at the BotB)
The Bod
AlienZ
I'm a big WWF fan and I've been watching the WCW for 3 years and Hulk
Hogan turning heel is the best thing I've seen since the Ultimate
Warrior beat Hulk Hogan. I would like to see Yoko join the WCW cause I
would like to see what he could do to all those small wrestlers in the
WCW like Sting. I think with the Hogan turning heel thing the WCW is
better for now but we will see how long that lasts.
AlienZ
Robin Lenhart
The last thing WCW needs, but still may get, is Yoko and Mabel. They'e
overstocked with heels now and everyone rumored to be coming in (Yoko,
Mabel, DiBiase as an announcer, Jarrett, Bigelow) are all heels.
MacDougal
Babs, you aughta' kick his butt anyway... just for the fun of it.
- Hunter Hearst Hugo
"WhhhhhhooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!!! The Nature Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
jorge l fernandez
: Now that the Hulkster has made the biggest heel turn in the history of
: All the people that already hated HH and now all those that have started
: to (all the marks) vehemetly hate this man. This will most definitely
: bring in the crowds. And, wow, Dibiase is in next. I must say, things
: are looking UP in WCW! WWF is in major trouble!
no they're not...
read my post later...
Ken Yuki
: No way is the WWF in "major trouble." WCW still has the old has beens,
: with the exception of a few. And, oh WOW TED DIBIASE!!! Isn't he just
: great!!! Bullshit, Ted sucks a fat one! WWF still has the best talent,
: by far. I agree, some of the WWF's gimmicks need to be done away with,
: but at least they don't have little Japs wearing masks with horns on it.
: Well, I'm still pissed over the whole Huckster thing so, bye for now.
Jushing Thunder Liger is way more exciting than any wrestler that you and
your limited imagination could name. The WWF is facing a very stiff
challenge from WCW right now and could be reeling from these recent
events for a long time. Chris Benoit is probably the next most exciting
wrestler after Liger, K. Mutoh and Hayabusa(the latter two average 6'1"
and are legit heavyweights) and he's aligned with WCW. Unless the WWF
can drastically improve on the tag-team situation as well as the quality
of their mid-card matches, WCW will be the organization that is more watched.
Please, get a clue. Bye for now.
Tatsumi Fujinami.
Trevor Barrie
jlab...@chat.carleton.ca (Jamie LaBrash) wrote:
>> No way is the WWF in "major trouble." WCW still has the old has beens,
>Hogan. Savage. Flair. Who are the other has beens?
Kevin Sullivan, Jim Duggan, The Rock n' Roll Express, Greg Valentine,
The Road Warriors (or are they gone now?), Meng, John Tenta, Big
Bubba, Bobby Eaton... I probably missed a couple.
OTOH, I could count on the fingers of one hand the WWF wrestlers who
I'd call has-beens. (Roberts, Lawler, Backlund, and the occasionally
active Piper). WCW does have an impressive cadre of young wrestlers,
but the average age in the WWF is still younger.
>> with the exception of a few.
>Name anyone in the WWF who is better then Chris Benoit. Or Rey Misterio,
>Jr. Or Eddy Guerrero.
Shawn Michaels, the Hart brothers, Marty Jannety, Steve Austin, Hunter
Hearst Helmsley, Marc Mero, Leif Cassidy... all of these guys are in
the same ballpark as Benoit and Guerrero; who I'd call "better" tends
to vary from week to week.
Trevor Barrie
jes...@infi.net (Warrior JS) wrote:
>But it's things like little Japs with horns on them that turns a few people
>off from this whole Japan or Lucha thing in the first place. I liked
>Psicosis/Misterio the first time around when it was in ECW, but TTYTT I never
>really was turned on by Psicosis' costume.
>IMO simple is the way to go.
You know, I don't want to start another tirade about brainwashing, not
getting respect, or whatever, but is an avowed Ultimate Warrior fan
really in a position to be criticising goofy-looking costumes?