Rap is dying a slow painful death
Joe Novellino
When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
vultures...
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>When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal >the
>vultures...
he's talented but he's pop, just like with Master P with Bischoff's son,
suburban white kids find him cool
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Joe Novellino <lapa...@aol.com> wrote:
> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says
I!
> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
> vultures...
Sure, after two years of crappy rap and you complain when someone talented
is most popular. Cash Money and Jay Z suck.
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YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!
Darien Allen
Novellino) we were graced with this statement:
>Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says I!
>When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
>vultures...
And Master P's 400 hundred albums in one years wasn't a signal?
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Josh Scott
It doesnt matter what my name is. <stunn...@aol.comnojunk> wrote:
> >Sure, after two years of crappy rap and you complain when someone
talented
> >is most popular. Cash Money and Jay Z suck.
>
> Oh god. Eminem has talent? Have you listened to his lyrics? Blatant
crap.
> Wow, he can make special effect noises. Wow, he makes fun of people when
he
> doesnt get his own way. The guy has like 5 more minutes of fame. I'm
still
> wondering why that nimrod Aguilera thinks he, and Fred Durst are
cute...yet
> they talk about her beind their backs, and write lyrics that are basically
> disgusting. Her Rolling Stone interview definitely defines her as a dumb
> blonde. Her taste in men is definitely zero, especially when she likes a
> wannabe black man Eminem, and a balding, fat, untalented Fred Durst.
I'm still trying to figure out how you went from Eminem to Christina
Aguilera and Fred Durst. Anyways, Eminem is a damn good rapper. He may be
"pop" (even though he doesn't want to be), he may annoy you, but he's still
a really good rapper.
It doesnt matter what my name is.
Madula
This is one fucked up sentence.
"There has been a perception since the beginning that we've been a people's
band...I've always had a problem with that...We don't do it for anybody
else...I think our true fans understand that...We are not toothpaste"
-Lars Ulrich, Newsweek 6/5/00
Bakaboy712
Disco was around for about 5 years. Rap's been around twenty. I don't think
it's going to dissappear, like it or not.
Joe Novellino
>>is most popular. Cash Money and Jay Z suck.
It all sucks. At least Jay-Z had the ear for a good showtune.
>Oh god. Eminem has talent? Have you listened to his lyrics? Blatant crap.
>Wow, he can make special effect noises.
He should team up with that guy from the Police Academy Movies. It'd be bigger
than the Fat Boys!
>Her taste in men is definitely zero, especially when she likes a
>wannabe black man Eminem, and a balding, fat, untalented Fred Durst.
Say what you will about Fred Durst.
Trevor
"Joe Novellino" <lapa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says
I!
> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
> vultures...
most popular among suburban white kids and 16 year old white females who
think he's cute and funny by his commerical songs but when they hear the
stuff on his album they get turned off...
sugarman
wrote:
>>Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco
>
>Disco was around for about 5 years. Rap's been around twenty. I don't think
>it's going to dissappear, like it or not.
Lol.
Disco just went underground, changed its name, and now I hear the same
damn "club" music every freaking place I go. Its never really left.
Rap has had some rough times before too. Vanilla Ice, Snow, Eminem,
its all a rich tapestry. I'm sure it'll find a way to survive. It
just needs to find a way to dump all the poseur black artists, who are
only using it as a crutch. (Puffy, Sisqo, what-have-you)
--sugarman--
Music fan.
It doesnt matter what my name is.
>Aguilera and Fred Durst.
If you don't see the parallel...nevermind...I was pointing out that anyone that
thinks Eminem is cute, like Aguilera did, and still act all ditzy when he calls
her a whore, is an idiot. As for Eminem, how can you call him talented when
all he does is bitch about other people?
> He may be
>"pop" (even though he doesn't want to be), he may annoy you, but he's still
>a really good rapper.
>
Explain why he is a good rapper.
Paul
Madula <madu...@aol.commoc.loa> wrote in message
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Casey Stanfield
See, the difference is, Sisqo isn't a rapper. He doesn't claim to be a rapper.
He's an R&B singer. Listen to his Album, which is really good BTW, and if you
hear him rap a whole song, let me know, cause it doesn't happen.<br><br>
Besides that, Eminem is by no means the best rapper out there. He's just
currently what's hot. Busta Rhymes comes out Tuesday, pick that up and hear
some good rap. The Eclectic is due out soon too, that'll be good rap. And if
you want to go grassroots and get some good Old School style rap, go out on
Tuesday, and Support the Jurassic Five, a Great group of Rappers and DJ's. Pick
up "Quality Control" cause it'll be one of if not the best rap CDs of the year.
Speed King
Casey Stanfield wrote:
> >(Puffy, Sisqo, what-have-you)<br><br>
>
> See, the difference is, Sisqo isn't a rapper. He doesn't claim to be a rapper.
> He's an R&B singer.
Nope.. He's a suck ass wanna be. He stank up the place on Saturday Night Live.
Kwik
Speed King wrote:
Wow, I guess because he had one bad performance -- in your opnion, btw -- he must be
terrible.
Kwik
Explain why he isn't.
Nat
adpot the persona of the New Blood's P.N. News.
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great rapper, but the fact is, rap in itself sucks, really, really bad! Yes,
that's just my opinion, but for some reason people think rap is "Music." But
"Rap" is not "Music." Rap is people talking to a beat, this is not "Music." At
least IMO.
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"Joe Novellino" <lapa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says
I!
Testify!
> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
> vultures...
IIIIIIIIII hate raaaaaaaap!
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never going to die. It's been overcommercialzed and sucked dry, and many in
the hip-hop industry are fed up and would probably like to see it go back
underground. Once these little white boys and girls move on to the corporate
world's next big trend. I would have a lot more respect for rap music, which I
am not really a fan of, if it were more advanced. Lauren Hill's album was a
good example of what hip-hop could be. The Roots are a legitimate band who do
not resort to talk about their piles of cash or how many people they have
murdered. And they play their own instruments.
I would have a lot more respect for rap music if it were more political, if it
served a purpose for the advancement of black people in our country. Sure, you
could argue that rap music has helped to advance black people, but it hasn't
really. All it has done is become a way to sell urban fashions to white
suburban teen-agers. This is why just about all of your big-name rap stars are
too busy rhyming about cash and women and not about real social issues. This
is why you see big-budget mini-movies as rap videos. The kind of rap music I
would like to see is one that is reflective of the struggle of black people in
our country. A style that is raw, angry, political, but also offers hope. The
junk you see on MTV may pretend to be real, and the media creams over it, but
it's really nothing more than corporate bullshit. The same type of corporate
bullshit that is turning society as a whole into corporate zombies.
Rap will go down in history as a form of art that did not live up to either
it's original purpose and/or just got watered down by "The Man." And it's
truly sad, considering very few seem to realize it. And then some foul-mouthed
opportunisit like Enimem comes along and sucks everyone else dry. I believe I
am through with mainstream music, at least modern mainstream music, if I wasn't
already.
DrkSide278
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>
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videos.
He should have had his act together, in fact, he did. His act is just lame and your too
much into his jock to let it go and realize it.
Joe Novellino
>if youhear him rap a whole song, let me know, cause it doesn't happen.
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>> vultures...
>
>IIIIIIIIII hate raaaaaaaap!
Sadly, I still own that mp3, and listen to it regualrly...
XxXxFactor
>struggle of black people in our country. A style that is raw, angry,
>political, but also offers hope.
listen to 2pac
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in Jail right NOW!!
Black Panther wrote:
> [Yes, that's just my opinion, but for some reason people think rap is "Music."
> But
> "Rap" is not "Music." Rap is people talking to a beat, this is not "Music." At
> least IMO. ]
>
> Rap is more than "people talking to a beat". I respect that you don't like
> rap, but to say it is not music is just plain......
Black Panther
The Ayatolla of Rock and Trolla
out his usual shit:
>Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says I!
>When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
>vultures...
>---
>Boycott the WWf and go see "Ready To Rumble" NOW!!!
>http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3960
>Go now!!!
People have been saying Rap is dying for 15 years now, funny it's
still around.
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HeatM
>>And Master P's 400 hundred albums in one years wasn't a signal?
>
>This is one fucked up sentence.
LOL
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The Ayatolla of Rock and Trolla
out his usual shit:
>>See, the difference is, Sisqo isn't a rapper. He doesn't claim to be a
I see he really pissed you off if you went to the trouble of digging
info on him just so you could have something to flame him with
Never fails, when you're losing the arguement, look for something to
flame the guy with.
The Ayatolla of Rock and Trolla
out his usual shit:
>>> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
>>> vultures...
>>
>>IIIIIIIIII hate raaaaaaaap!
>
>Sadly, I still own that mp3, and listen to it regualrly...
>---
Why am I not surprised.
Black Panther
is
in Jail right NOW!!]
If he really did that then he deserves to be in jail. Oh, by the way, Nate
Dogg is a singer, not a rapper.
Black Panther
Black Panther
info on him just so you could have something to flame him with
Never fails, when you're losing the arguement, look for something to
Yeah, that was kinda pathetic wasn't it. People who lose arguments should just
take their lumps like a man instead of resorting to this female-esqe character
assasination.
Black Panther
That explains alot. LOL
Black Panther
signal the
>>> vultures... ]
Some would say that Eminem is popular because he looks cute on MTV and a good
chunk of the suburban, pop, teenybopper crowd support him. While he does have
some skills, those in the know know that as far as the hardcore hip-hop
community goes he's not even in the top ten as far as popularity goes.
you wish you knew who I was
lapa...@aol.com (Joe Novellino) wrote:
> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says I!
> vultures...
> ---
Not really. What's wrong w/ Eminem, can you enlighten us on WHAT it is? And
how is rap dying? financially? artistically? explain.
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GrandMstrTrashay
grand history of the music industry.
It deserved to die years ago. But the media has kept it alive.
If there is no melody, how can it be music??? Answer - it isn't. It would be
nice is stars of the music industry actually know something about playing
music.
gmt: "rap" and "artist" go together as well as "military" and "intelligence"
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CJ Moss
Any combination of sounds can be considered musical. To some, if Daffney
started screaming in different tones in continuation, that'd be considered
music.
Rap IS music. Whether you like it or not is your choice, but you can't say
that it isn't music.
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that it isn't music.
How about really bad poetry set to music?
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>
>How about really bad poetry set to music?
That works.
Johnny Keys
Social1026 wrote:
> Go get a haircut and study the intense psychology behind
> the 1988 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Vanilla Ice's Ninja Rap....?
BUZZKILL and that WCW announcer chick Pamela Paulshock
"GrandMstrTrashay" <tra...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Rap, with VERY few exceptions, is not music. It is the biggest joke in the
> grand history of the music industry.
>
> It deserved to die years ago. But the media has kept it alive.
>
> If there is no melody, how can it be music??? Answer - it isn't. It would
be
> nice is stars of the music industry actually know something about playing
> music.
>
> gmt: "rap" and "artist" go together as well as "military" and
"intelligence"
Testify!
BUZZKILL and that WCW announcer chick Pamela Paulshock
"CJ Moss" <duntc...@aol.commonsense> wrote in message
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> >If there is no melody, how can it be music??? Answer - it isn't.
>
> started screaming in different tones in continuation, that'd be considered
> music.
>
say
> that it isn't music.
It's no more music than a poetry reading or a newscaster reading the daily
news.
Social1026
>>Rap IS music. Whether you like it or not is your choice, but you can't say
>that it isn't music.
>
>
>How about really bad poetry set to music?
Yo homeboy, we don't allow mulletheads like you in this area.
Go get a haircut and study the intense psychology behind
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>In article <20000617173737...@ng-fj1.aol.com>,
> lapa...@aol.com (Joe Novellino) wrote:
>> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says I!
>> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
>> vultures...
>> ---
>
>Not really. What's wrong w/ Eminem, can you enlighten us on WHAT it is? And
>how is rap dying? financially? artistically? explain.
>
get worked by record companies who tell you this music has something to
say. Soap opera fans get worked by the cliffhanger to make them watch
the next episode.
I love wrestling (even though a lot of the time the crap ideas make me
wonder why I watch), I quite like rap (even though no-one has had
anything to say since NWA, and they got stale very quickly), I don't
watch soap operas (because despite watching wrestling and listening to
some rap I still have a few brain cells). But it's all there to make
money for big business. Don't build anything up - it's all there to take
your money from you.
Word to the muthafucker, if you smell what the Rock is cooking, but Chad
you said you were with Clarrise that night.....
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Licko
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> >Rap, with VERY few exceptions, is not music. It is the biggest joke in th
e
> >grand history of the music industry.
>
Well, I guess he's in rec.sport.pro-wrestling... And since you haven't poste
d there, the fella isn't even going to read your message...
Peace,
Licko
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lapa...@aol.com (Joe Novellino) wrote:
> Just like its equally detestable forefather, disco. Not soon enough, says I!
> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
> vultures...
My, my. Look how much controversy only two sentences can cause.
Anyway, as much as I dislike rap (hate is a strong word), I can't say that
it's "dying a slow painful death." Rap's still going strong.
Long live metal and punk rock!
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Ponderous. Fuckin' ponderous.
Teck
> Rap, with VERY few exceptions, is not music. It is the biggest joke in the
> grand history of the music industry.
Well, if the only rap you ever hear is from MTV or the radio, yeah, it's not
that great...
> It deserved to die years ago.
We're all entitled to our opinions.
> But the media has kept it alive.
There's negative publicity around other music too, can use the same arguement
against say Manson for all the press about how it makes your kid a loser and
want to blow up his school-- makes all the outsider kids buy it and listen to it
even more IMO.
> If there is no melody, how can it be music??? Answer - it isn't.
I don't get this part... A lot of rap songs are sampled from older songs, so to
me that's like saying those older songs don't have melody and aren't music...
> It would be nice is stars of the music industry actually know something about
playing music.
I'll agree here, but not just in rap (Swizz Beats) but in other pop-ish music
too.
> gmt: "rap" and "artist" go together as well as "military" and "intelligence"
Jus wonderin what GMT means
peace
-teck
Teck
> Wrestling fans get worked by the idea of sports entertainment. Rap fans
> get worked by record companies who tell you this music has something to
> say. Soap opera fans get worked by the cliffhanger to make them watch
> the next episode.
>
> I love wrestling (even though a lot of the time the crap ideas make me
> wonder why I watch), I quite like rap (even though no-one has had
> anything to say since NWA, and they got stale very quickly), I don't
> watch soap operas (because despite watching wrestling and listening to
> some rap I still have a few brain cells). But it's all there to make
> money for big business. Don't build anything up - it's all there to take
> your money from you.
Good way of explaining it, but Public Enemy and The Coup have messages in them,
Eminem does too in his crazy kill everyone and do drugs type way... But
otherwise I'm gonna say I agree with about everything you said.
> Word to the muthafucker, if you smell what the Rock is cooking, but Chad you
said you were with Clarrise that night.....
hahaha, And to top off a decent post, a decent closing line...
Josh Scott
BUZZKILL and that WCW announcer chick Pamela Paulshock
<buzzz...@hotmail.comSPAM_REALLY,REALLY_SUCKS> wrote:
> It's no more music than a poetry reading or a newscaster reading the daily
> news.
OK, how about I send you a beat and some lyrics. Make a wav of yourself
just speaking the lyrics, and put it over the beat. Let's see how good it
sounds.
Ignorant.
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YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!
Joe Novellino
>I!
>> When Eminem is the most popular artist in a genre, it's time to signal the
>> vultures...
>
>My, my. Look how much controversy only two sentences can cause.
Three sentences; one's a fragment.
>
>Long live metal and punk rock!
Yeah! Long live apples and oranges!
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