Hogan turns at the Bash, and a mark gets a right-cross in the chops
NM156
well, being one of the first to say the third guy is Hogan, i can know
gloat...his interview was good, as was all the debris thrown in the ring...
Tony C. had the quote of the night: "Hogan, go to hell!!!!"...
personally, i hope this turns out not to be a big screw job in the end;
i can see no better way for Hogan to go out of the business the same way
he came in...as a heel.
the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to 'em
overall, though, the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
Acook
>the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
>climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to 'em
>overall, though, the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
The mark couldn't accept the fact that Hulkamania is over ... I agree
that was the best part of the night. Doug Dillenger had his big chance
and he let the WCW down ... he was out of position.
Shuriken
On Mon, 8 Jul 96 03:24:47 -0500, NM156 <dan...@delphi.com> wrote:
>well, being one of the first to say the third guy is Hogan, i can know
>gloat...his interview was good, as was all the debris thrown in the ring...
>Tony C. had the quote of the night: "Hogan, go to hell!!!!"...
>personally, i hope this turns out not to be a big screw job in the end;
>i can see no better way for Hogan to go out of the business the same way
>he came in...as a heel.
>the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
>climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to 'em
>overall, though, the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
>the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
Lackluster?I'd like to know what the fuck were you watching,Psicosis v
Misterio was GREAT and Disco vs Malenko was TREMENDOUS.I dont even
count the other matches.
Janis Johnson
>the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
>climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to 'em
>
If you believe that was a real fan, then you are the biggest mark of all!
JFinne7403
Who, the poster or the fan? I remember fans scaling cages to get at
wrestlers. When Ric Flair was ripping Jimmy Garvin's knee apart in '86,
some guy tried to climb the cage. It has happened before.
Amdur - Jeffrey I.
NM156 (dan...@delphi.com) wrote:
: overall, though, the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
Come again? Rey Misterio and Psicosis give you a world-class lucha-style
match with some of the most amazing moves ever seen on non-Hispanic
television and you call that lackluster? IMHO the only really lame
matches on the card were Duggan-Page and Tenta-Bubba. Flair's match was
fair at best since his style predictably didn't mesh well with Konnan's.
Mongo was impressive to me considering he was wrestling his first singles
match. All the other matches rocked. Disco vs. Malenko was in
particular a surprise, giving us a great match where a lot of people had
been predicting disaster.
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Joe Wargo
Can someone offer a little more detail about the supposed fan who jumped
into the ring onto to be stomped on by Nash? I guess I'm one of the few
who didn't see it, and I've been wondering if the incident might somehow
be part of the angle.
In article <4rshi9$5...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jfinn...@aol.com
Huy Tong
In article <4rqpj2$3...@doc.zippo.com>, Acook wrote:
>
>>the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
>>climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to
'em
>
>that was the best part of the night. Doug Dillenger had his big chance
>and he let the WCW down ... he was out of position.
who's Doug Dillenger?
Janis Johnson
jwa...@clark.net (Joe Wargo) wrote:
>Can someone offer a little more detail about the supposed fan who jumped
>into the ring onto to be stomped on by Nash? I guess I'm one of the few
>who didn't see it, and I've been wondering if the incident might somehow
>be part of the angle.
>
only mention over the air what they are supposed to -- what's part of the
script. They *never* mention anything outside the script. How often have
we seen obvious things go on in and around the ring and the announcers
don't say a thing about them? Fact is, if an announcer brings it up, it's
part of the show.
Janis Johnson
Two more things about the fat fan. First of all, if this guy wasn't a
mark, Nash wouldn't have attacked him -- he would have backed off because
any fan that stupid would also be stupid enough to have a knife or a gun.
Secondly, if it was a true mark running wild, Nash would have backed off
because he and WCW could have been sued by the fan if the attack on him
by The Outsiders was real. The guy was a plant, and lots of people fell
for it, so even that part of the show was successful.
Tod Fontana
Wasn't the "fat fan" who ran in on BatB also sitting ringside at
the July 8 Nitro?
He was wearing a dark blue tee shirt and was sitting next to
the end by a corner post, in a floor-level chair.
Mike Johnson
In article <4ru5ul$n...@hermes.oanet.com>, hu...@online.ab.ca says...
>In article <4rqpj2$3...@doc.zippo.com>, Acook wrote:
>who's Doug Dillenger?
He's the "Head (Chief) of Security" for WCW . . .
KemperFan
I noticed the guy immediately and to me it look
like he took some legitimate shots from Hall
and Nash whether he was a plant or not.
Jeff
Pat Warrior Savino
From: Pat WARRIOR Savino <psavin01@barney>
Subject: Re: The mark-a-maniac Nash stomped on
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
One flaw in your theory. Yes, it was a work. BUT, if a fan jumps into
ANY sports arena - football, baseball, boxing, wrestling, the athletes
CAN LEGALLY kick the snot out of him.
Pat
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In article <4rtsn6$o...@uhura.phoenix.net>,
Janis Johnson <trij...@phoenix.net> wrote:
>Two more things about the fat fan. First of all, if this guy wasn't a
>mark, Nash wouldn't have attacked him -- he would have backed off because
>any fan that stupid would also be stupid enough to have a knife or a gun.
>Secondly, if it was a true mark running wild, Nash would have backed off
>because he and WCW could have been sued by the fan if the attack on him
>by The Outsiders was real. The guy was a plant, and lots of people fell
>for it, so even that part of the show was successful.
>
*-----*
of course it wasn't a crazed mark.
it was really loch ness. :)
joe
Pat WARRIOR Savino
One flaw in your theory. Yes, it was a work. BUT, if a fan jumps into
ANY sports arena - football, baseball, boxing, wrestling, the athletes
CAN LEGALLY kick the snot out of him.
Pat
On 9 Jul 1996, Janis Johnson wrote:
> Two more things about the fat fan. First of all, if this guy wasn't a
> mark, Nash wouldn't have attacked him -- he would have backed off because
> any fan that stupid would also be stupid enough to have a knife or a gun.
> Secondly, if it was a true mark running wild, Nash would have backed off
> because he and WCW could have been sued by the fan if the attack on him
> by The Outsiders was real. The guy was a plant, and lots of people fell
> for it, so even that part of the show was successful.
>
>
>
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Tom Smith
Tod Fontana <fon...@springfield.grumman.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, I didn't tape the 7/8 Nitro, but when Flair was walking to the
ring (or maybe outside the ring during the match) he stopped briefly the yell
at a fan that looked kind of like the same guy that jumped in the ring during
BATB. Anyone else catch that?
Tom
George Stankow
> On 9 Jul 1996, Janis Johnson wrote:
>
> > Two more things about the fat fan. First of all, if this guy wasn't a
> > mark, Nash wouldn't have attacked him -- he would have backed off because
> > any fan that stupid would also be stupid enough to have a knife or a gun.
> > Secondly, if it was a true mark running wild, Nash would have backed off
> > because he and WCW could have been sued by the fan if the attack on him
> > by The Outsiders was real. The guy was a plant, and lots of people fell
> > for it, so even that part of the show was successful.
>
>
> One flaw in your theory. Yes, it was a work. BUT, if a fan jumps into
> ANY sports arena - football, baseball, boxing, wrestling, the athletes
> CAN LEGALLY kick the snot out of him.
Say WHAT?
A) I'd like to see that law passed.
B) I'd like to see that law stand up to even one challenge.
C) I'd like to see it happen, period.
but
D) It won't. That might, accent on MIGHT, be a law in Texas, home of the
justifiable homicide, but ain't no way in hell it's a law everywhere.
You expect us to believe that if someone comes over the railing at Dodger
Stadium, Mike Piazza can take him down and stomp him to death? Of course
not. Security can't even do that.
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sta...@csra.net
Though it does raise a point... maybe Glacier is Hideo Nomo...
Kory Yorke
Shur...@bigeasy.com (Shuriken) wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Jul 96 03:24:47 -0500, NM156 <dan...@delphi.com> wrote:
>>well, being one of the first to say the third guy is Hogan, i can know
>>gloat...his interview was good, as was all the debris thrown in the ring...
>>Tony C. had the quote of the night: "Hogan, go to hell!!!!"...
>>personally, i hope this turns out not to be a big screw job in the end;
>>i can see no better way for Hogan to go out of the business the same way
>>he came in...as a heel.
>>the best part of the night came when that marke marked out too much,
>>climbed onto the ring and was smacked by Nash who then put the boots to 'em
>>overall, though, the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
>>the rest of the card was pretty lackluster...
>Lackluster?I'd like to know what the fuck were you watching,Psicosis v
>Misterio was GREAT and Disco vs Malenko was TREMENDOUS.I dont even
>count the other matches.
Agreed! This was one of the best ppv's I've seen in a long time. Psi
vs. Mysterio and Disco Inferno vs. Malenko were 2 great matches.
Jupiter Watcher
Kory Yorke
tjo...@pelican.com
Tod Fontana <fon...@springfield.grumman.com> wrote:
>Wasn't the "fat fan" who ran in on BatB also sitting ringside at
>the July 8 Nitro?
>He was wearing a dark blue tee shirt and was sitting next to
>the end by a corner post, in a floor-level chair.
Daytona Beach (BATB) is only about an hour from Orlando (Nitro MGM).
Maybe the dude lives around here. Or maybe he's going to join up with
Savage and Sting to go against the NWO soon. Who the heck knows?
bishop
Back in 70's during a Pittsburg Steelers game a fan ran onto the field during
the game. Jack Lambert knocked the snot out of the guy. No charges were
ever pressed because Lambert was acting in self-defence. When somebody jumps
into the ring or the field they putting the athelete/performer in jeapordy,
and that athelete has a right to defend themselves security or no security.
Martin Warnett
I seem to remember a game on an NFL highlights vid I bought here in the UK, about
their Hardest hitters, and a player made a pretty vicious tackle on a fan who ran
onto the pitch.
Can't remember the name, but the player didn't get charged for assault, but was
fined by the NFL.
IF it was real, Hall and Nash could claim they were acting in self-defence, after
all if the guy had a knife ...
Mat Findlay
George Stankow <sta...@csra.net> wrote:
>Say WHAT?
>A) I'd like to see that law passed.
It's not legal, but I don't think that Nash would be convicted if he
did beat a real crazed mark. For one, if a crazed mark was running
into the ring and was obviously intending to attack a heel, I think
the heel would have no problem in court pleading self defense.
"A man has two things in this world... His word, and his balls...
Or is that three things?"
-Jeff Goldblum - Deep Cover
Take it EEZ...
Mat. <tet...@interlog.com>
Mike Johnson
In article <4s5k5v$j...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>,
warn...@entcf4.agw.bt.co.uk says...
>
>I seem to remember a game on an NFL highlights vid I bought here in the
UK, about their Hardest hitters, and a player made a pretty vicious
tackle on a fan who ran onto the pitch.
>Can't remember the name,
Happened twice -- Jack Lambert (Pittsburgh Steelers) and Mike Curtis
(Baltimore Colts) cold-cocked fans who decided to celebrate with their
heroes . . .
Thomas Grotenhuis
Don't forget the boxing match we had a few years back where a parachuter
landed in the center of the ring and got the daylights pounded out
of him by ringsiders . . .
(Sorry, don't remember the date or the fighters)
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Steven Edelson
I was at a match in, I think it was the 1960s (do I date
myself), with the Graham brothers verses someone. They were
slugging it out, and suddenly a crazed fan jumped into the
ring and started beating the Grahams to a pulp. Real blood was
flowing all over until he was stopped. He did more damage in
the two minutes he was in the ring than the wrestlers had in
the 20 minute slugging match. The wrestlers were so startled
that it took a couple of minutes before the other wrestlers
reacted and came to the Grahams aid. - Steve
Pat WARRIOR Savino
Ummm....who exactly is the a**hole who keeps re-posting everyone's posts
under a phony e-mail? Nothing better to do, perhaps?
ObWrestling: The 123 Kid is being offered an IC title reign if he
re-signs with the WWF. How they expect the fans to believe that Waltman
stands a snowball's chance in hell of beating Marble Mouth, I don't know.
Pat
On 9 Jul 1996, Pat Warrior Savino wrote:
>
> From: Pat WARRIOR Savino <psavin01@barney>
> Subject: Re: The mark-a-maniac Nash stomped on
> Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
>
>
> One flaw in your theory. Yes, it was a work. BUT, if a fan jumps into
> ANY sports arena - football, baseball, boxing, wrestling, the athletes
> CAN LEGALLY kick the snot out of him.
>
> Pat
>
> On 9 Jul 1996, Janis Johnson wrote:
>
> > Two more things about the fat fan. First of all, if this guy wasn't a
> > mark, Nash wouldn't have attacked him -- he would have backed off because
> > any fan that stupid would also be stupid enough to have a knife or a gun.
> > Secondly, if it was a true mark running wild, Nash would have backed off
> > because he and WCW could have been sued by the fan if the attack on him
> > by The Outsiders was real. The guy was a plant, and lots of people fell
> > for it, so even that part of the show was successful.
> >
> >
> >
>
> :::
> :::*:::
> ::::::::: :::*****::: :::::::::
> ::::::::::::::::::* *::::::::::::::::::
> ::: ******* * * ******* :::
> ::: *** (o)*** ***(o) *** :::
> ::::* ******* ******* *::::
> ::::* *:::::::* *:::::::* *::::
> ::::* *::::: :::*****::: :::::* *::::
> ::::* *::: ::::::: :::* *::::
> :::* *::: ALWAYS ::: BELIEVE :::* *:::
> :::* *:::: : ::::* *:::
> ::* *::: and the arena walls :::* *::
> :::***::: ARE shaking again :::***:::
> :::*:: ............. ::*:::
> ::: <GRAHR..SNORT..GROWL> :::
> : :
> Pat "CousinIt" Savino Polytechnic University 2nd level CS Major
> The Ultimate "Ultimate Warrior" Fan psav...@barney.poly.edu
>
> ____ __ _______ 'Poor...all my life I've always been poor
> \ \ \ / \ / _____/ I keep askin' God what I'm for
> \ \ \/ /\ \/ /____ And he tells me "Gee, I'm not sure"'
> \ \ / \ / ___/
> \ \/ /\ \/ / PS - n - RS
> \__/ \__/ 7/7/1995
> ..................................................................
>
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TSzuch
You guys can't be serious? Have you watched a tape of this? If it was a
plant then they must have payed the guy a whole hell of a lot of money
because he got fucked up. Have you watched Scott stomp on him in slow
motion? He is REALLY stomping on his head. Not everything in wrestling is
a work and Hogan upset a lot of marks that night for turning. Now we smart
marks think it's the coolest think since sliced bread. I'm tellin' ya
right now that guy was really a fan, and really got the shit kicked out of
him.
Kingpin Cool
> Ummm....who exactly is the a**hole who keeps re-posting everyone's posts
> under a phony e-mail? Nothing better to do, perhaps?
Looks like a gateway problem with fidonet.
> ObWrestling: The 123 Kid is being offered an IC title reign if he
> re-signs with the WWF. How they expect the fans to believe that Waltman
> stands a snowball's chance in hell of beating Marble Mouth, I don't know.
Best guess would be due to outside interference by Goldust. After all, he'd
just be returning the favour done him by the Kid back when he took the belt
from Razor.
KC
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Roger Balakrishnan
A couple of years ago a fan jumped onto the bench of the Buffalo Sabres.
Rob Ray the sabres enforcer proceeded to beat the crap out of the guy.
There was no lawsuit no criticism nothing ...
roger
Paul Kang
In article <4se3nm$d...@news.aros.net>, <jbr...@aros.net> wrote:
>
>It's getting real old to listen to the announcers moan about how bad Hogan
>hurt his little fans. In fact, enough is enough. I don't imagine I can listen to
>Nitro tonite.
>
(on Pro)
Dusty - "I'm gonna talk about this until I'm blue in the face!"
other - "You are blue! You're blue in the face!"
Dusty - "That's just the glow: the glow around the Dream."
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jmb...@aros.net wrote:
>In <4rtsn6$o...@uhura.phoenix.net>, Janis Johnson <trij...@phoenix.net> writes:
>>
>Eric, you are blowing what could have been a great angle.
>
>John
>
oh boy!!!aren't you people judging this a bit too soon ?BTW i know for a fact that the fat fan and the trash throwing where not work=
s but shoots damn it!!!don't try to give the best angle of the year a bad name.it's perfect and it's a work of art. -CARNAG=
E
Edwin O'Gaffe
And YOU'RE a work of SHIT!
christopher carrell
In article <shepman-1807...@port149035.eos.net> she...@eos.net (Mike Sheppard) writes:
>The business is dangerous.
>
>Every once i awhile, some mark flips out and hurts one of the boys.
>
>In Boston many years ago, Barry Windham's dad (BlackJack Mulligan) was
>doing monster hell shtick in a match at the Boston Garden. A woman ran
>out of the crowd and STABBED Mulligan in the back and made in out of the
>arena.
>
>Needless to say, BlackJack was pissed.
Then there was a piece in SI a few years ago on this stuff.
1) How over 90 fans in Japan died of heart attacks during Freddie Blassie
matches. "I wanted to get to 100, and I failed."
2) How one of the Moondogs (Spot, I believe) got slashed by a fan.
Said Moondog, "You don't want to get spayed if you can help it."
or something like that.
Chris
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Mat Findlay
tsz...@aol.com (TSzuch) wrote:
MARK my words...
It was a plant... Good pro-wrestlers practice making shots look
real... Even in slo-mo.
And even if the shots were real, the cover of Pantera's "Vulgar
Display of Power" comes to mind. Some guy was paid $10 a shot to get
punched in the face so it could be photographed. The guy went home
with $300 in his pocket... Do the math if you like, but it all comes
down to the same conclusion: The guy got the shit beat out of him
voluntarily. There are people out there that are willing to get beaten
as long as they get enough money and enough fame.
Mat Findlay
she...@eos.net (Mike Sheppard) wrote:
>The business is dangerous.
Sure, it happens, but based on WCW's recent "shoot-imitations", I
doubt that it was a real fan or a real beating. If it WAS real, you'd
see a lot more security, and a lot more billy club shots.
Also, if it WAS real, we wouldn't be seeing it in slo-mo.
Doug Corti
In article <4sg8n3$6...@kannews.ca.newbridge.com> rbal...@Newbridge.COM (Roger Balakrishnan) writes:
>From: rbal...@Newbridge.COM (Roger Balakrishnan)
>Subject: Re: The mark-a-maniac Nash stomped on
>roger
Actually, this took place in Quebec City, and the genius tried to run across
the ice to get at the bench. But yes, Rob Ray was one-man clubberin'
machine when the fan went at him.
Doug Corti
"I' m gonna rip your ears off, stick them in your back pocket so
you can hear me kick your ass!" - Diamond Dallas Page
"Because of my perspicacity, I prognosticate that I will lambaste
another plebeian right now!" - Mr. Bob Backlund
Kev Luv
I've been reading a lot posted here about that mark that jumped in the
ring when Hogan turned. Hall and Nash rightfully put the boots to this
guy.
I remember about 5 years ago at a TV taping in Ottawa, during a 40 man
battle royal, some card carrying Mensa member decided he was going to
jump into the frey. Well damned if Skinner Steve Keirn didn't go over
and start stomping the marks face in. Remember the workman's boots
Skinner wore?
I recently worked a show in Ontario (I'm a wrestler on the indies) and
while colour commentating, some little drunk frenchmen decided to attack
one of the wrestlers in a tag team match. I had to leave the broadcast
booth to go down to the ring and stop the wrestler from really attacking
the fan. It's nice to know we can still draw this kind of heat, but I
have to wonder what goes thru a fans mind who is about to attack a
wrestler. Quite stupid.
It's unwritten law in the biz that if a fan jumps in, you forget who
you're feuding with and who you're not, and you get the fan out of the
ring...even if it means hurting him. A lot of the wrestlers I know still
wear blades (I don't) for this very reason....if a mark jumps in, gig him
right in the face. Nice industry I choose to associate myself with eh?
I sometimes wonder why....
Curt Bolding
GZD...@prodigy.com (Kev Luv) wrote:
>I've been reading a lot posted here about that mark that jumped in the
>ring when Hogan turned. Hall and Nash rightfully put the boots to this
>guy.
Rightfully is right. If anybody's that fucking stupid, then they
deserve to get thumped a tad.