Get over it, Jericho would be nothing but a jobber in the WWF:
Nerdman MD
Twister
Dr. Nerdman
Metlhd3138
gunn,val venis,and the brood havent jobbed to those toys yet.
Nerdman MD
>> X-Pac,hardy boyz,hhh,the rock,steve austin (watch his early 98 stuff),billy
gunn,val venis,and the brood havent jobbed to those toys yet. <<
Let's see: X-Pox is nothing but a jobber, ditto the Hardy Boys, ditto Crocodile
Maivia, ditto Cold Stone (he jobbed to Saddio Vega, for Gawd's sake), ditto
Gunn (The Doc has 1 word for you.....Rockabilly!). And the Brood are nothing
but jobbers too (Crouton jobbed to Dwayne Gill, for Gawd's sake)
Dr. Nerdman
Mulloy
>Let's see: X-Pox is nothing but a jobber,
X-Pac is a two time and current European Champ.
>ditto the Hardy Boys
They're up and coming, they're new to the push list
>ditto Crocodile Maivia
He's the WWF CHAMPION ya jackass
>ditto Cold Stone (he jobbed to Saddio Vega, for Gawd's sake)
IN 1996 he jobbed to him. Since, he's been carrying the WWF
>ditto Gunn (The Doc has 1 word for you.....Rockabilly!)
Gunn is like a 6 time Tag Champ and is being pushed in Singles. Open yer
fucking eyes.
>And the Brood are nothing but jobbers too (Crouton jobbed to Dwayne Gill,
for Gawd's sake)
And the Brood are new and fueding with the Squad or as you might spell it,
Squawd. Looks like the name makes sense. You are a professional Nerdman.
Mulloy
Liquid Soul
How the hell do you figure this?
Liquid Soul
>
> You write:
>
> >> X-Pac,hardy boyz,hhh,the rock,steve austin (watch his early 98 stuff),billy
> gunn,val venis,and the brood havent jobbed to those toys yet. <<
>
> Let's see: X-Pox is nothing but a jobber, ditto the Hardy Boys, ditto Crocodile
> Gunn (The Doc has 1 word for you.....Rockabilly!). And the Brood are nothing
> but jobbers too (Crouton jobbed to Dwayne Gill, for Gawd's sake)
>
Looks like we got another Wu here. The reason the Brood jobbed to Duane
Gill is because they are parodying Goldberg's lame ass rise to stardom.
S Coffer
Marc Mero.
Scoffer
I eat more chicken than any man ever seen.
Don Martin
: >Let's see: X-Pox is nothing but a jobber,
: X-Pac is a two time and current European Champ.
Bwahhhhahahahahaha! That just SUPPORTS the jobber assertion!
: >ditto the Hardy Boys
: They're up and coming, they're new to the push list
They're jobbers until further notice!
: >ditto Crocodile Maivia
: He's the WWF CHAMPION ya jackass
So were Bobby Backland, Sid and Kane and they were nothing but jobbers!
: >ditto Cold Stone (he jobbed to Saddio Vega, for Gawd's sake)
: IN 1996 he jobbed to him. Since, he's been carrying the WWF
Once a jobber, ALWAYS a jobber in WWF.
: >ditto Gunn (The Doc has 1 word for you.....Rockabilly!)
: Gunn is like a 6 time Tag Champ and is being pushed in Singles. Open yer
: fucking eyes.
When will people like you realize, the WWF Tag Straps have been worthless
for almost half a decade now and the Champs are nothing but singles
jobbers with belts?
: >And the Brood are nothing but jobbers too (Crouton jobbed to Dwayne Gill,
: for Gawd's sake)
: And the Brood are new and fueding with the Squad or as you might spell it,
: Squawd. Looks like the name makes sense. You are a professional Nerdman.
Jobbers can still be involved in feuds, especially with other jobbers.
;)
JAWA
>
> See, if you have wrestling talent = WWF jobber/jobber to Bop It and Totally
> Twister
>
> Dr. Nerdman
Like Shawn Michaels and Owen Hart?
BeerGodDam
Pro-WCW fan mocking the CURRENT WWF Champ, Rocky Maivia, THE MOST POPULAR
WRESTLER IN THE WORLD, Steve Austin, and Probably one of the funniest
characters, Billy Gunn....and then, an obiviously Pro-WWF fan coming back and
saying, nut uh...there not jobbers......
Guys..its great to have differing opinions, thats what makes RSPW great..but
lets hear some reasons why Rock sucks, Or why Goldbergs better then
Austin..dont you think that would be more enjoyable?
Dennis Dubay
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Don Martin
Michaels lost cleanly to Vader and Triple H and Owen has been defeated
cleanly hundreds of times, for Gawd sake! The only reason why Michaels hasn't
lost more matches is that he suddenly becomes injured or has drug
problems so he can forfeit the titles that he would have jobbed away anyway!
;)
Terry Johnson
since Shamrock/Bossman took them.
What WWF have you been watching. Name one tag team in recent memory whose
member WEREN'T jobbers in singles action. I think the last one was Michaels
and Deasal (Kevvan Nash). When Shawn threw the belts away he also threw
away the prestige of that title (remeber how Bob Holly and X-Pox won the
tournament and held the titles for less than a day!?!
Hmmm, how bout Austin/Dude Love, Austin/Michaels, Kane/Mankind? I guess you
could stretch to Owen/Bulldog and Owen/Yokozuna. Take a look at the tapes
again, bro!
Terry
FireBall
Martin) wrote this little gem:
>: IN 1996 he jobbed to him. Since, he's been carrying the WWF
>
>Once a jobber, ALWAYS a jobber in WWF.
What a stupid statement. If that is the case, then everyone is a
jobber in WWF, WCW, ECW and all the other promotions as all have
jobbed to one another in some form or another. Don't try to back up
your original assinine comment with more assinine comments. Quit
while you're ahead.
>When will people like you realize, the WWF Tag Straps have been worthless
>for almost half a decade now and the Champs are nothing but singles
>jobbers with belts?
Which WWF are you watching? The Tag Straps have only recently been
devalued since Shamrock/Bossman took them.
Fireball
Don Martin
: >
: >Once a jobber, ALWAYS a jobber in WWF.
: What a stupid statement. If that is the case, then everyone is a
: jobber in WWF, WCW, ECW and all the other promotions as all have
: jobbed to one another in some form or another.
My argument has ALWAYS been that 99.9% of all wrestlers are jobbers (and
I'm 100% correct).
Don't try to back up
: your original assinine comment with more assinine comments. Quit
: while you're ahead.
Wake up and realize the truth about wrestling.
: >When will people like you realize, the WWF Tag Straps have been worthless
: >for almost half a decade now and the Champs are nothing but singles
: >jobbers with belts?
: Which WWF are you watching? The Tag Straps have only recently been
: devalued since Shamrock/Bossman took them.
What WWF have you been watching. Name one tag team in recent memory
whose member WEREN'T jobbers in singles action. I think the last one was
Michaels and Deasal (Kevvan Nash). When Shawn threw the belts away he
also threw away the prestige of that title (remeber how Bob Holly and
X-Pox won the tournament and held the titles for less than a day!?!)
;)
Don Martin
: member WEREN'T jobbers in singles action. I think the last one was Michaels
: and Deasal (Kevvan Nash). When Shawn threw the belts away he also threw
: away the prestige of that title (remeber how Bob Holly and X-Pox won the
: Hmmm, how bout Austin/Dude Love
The Dude Love gimmick was a jobber. Austin cheapened the belts by saying
he could win them and defend them on his own (and he pretty much did that
for a short time).
, Austin/Michaels
Michaels threw the belt away (as usual).
, Kane/Mankind?
They were jobbers who beat a couple of jobbers for the belts.
I guess you
: could stretch to Owen/Bulldog and Owen/Yokozuna.
All three of those guys ended up as jobbers in the WWF. Bulldog LOST
more matches as tag champ than in any other point in his career (except
after losing the Euro belt).
I stand by my statements.
;)
FireBall
Martin) wrote this little gem:
>: What a stupid statement. If that is the case, then everyone is a
>: jobber in WWF, WCW, ECW and all the other promotions as all have
>: jobbed to one another in some form or another.
>
>My argument has ALWAYS been that 99.9% of all wrestlers are jobbers (and
>I'm 100% correct).
Sorry, but you are wrong. A jobber is "Jerry Flynn". Loses the
majority of his matches. Hogan losing one match does not make him a
jobber. Goldberg losing a match does not make him a jobber. The list
goes on. Jobber is a term not associated with main eventers or upper
midcarders. Jobbing yes, Jobber no.
>Wake up and realize the truth about wrestling.
What about it? It's sports-entertainment. No losers and no winners.
Just actors.
>: Which WWF are you watching? The Tag Straps have only recently been
>: devalued since Shamrock/Bossman took them.
>
>What WWF have you been watching. Name one tag team in recent memory
>whose member WEREN'T jobbers in singles action. I think the last one was
>Michaels and Deasal (Kevvan Nash). When Shawn threw the belts away he
>also threw away the prestige of that title (remeber how Bob Holly and
>X-Pox won the tournament and held the titles for less than a day!?!)
Ok, when you put it that way....I think the Tag straps were devalued
when singles guys were put in teams to win them. (SCSA/Mankind) etc.
I think they did ok with the NAO, and soon they'll be up there
again...
Fireball
Don Martin
: On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:16:28 GMT, mart...@zoo.utoronto.ca (Don
: Martin) wrote this little gem:
: >: What a stupid statement. If that is the case, then everyone is a
: >: jobber in WWF, WCW, ECW and all the other promotions as all have
: >: jobbed to one another in some form or another.
: >
: >My argument has ALWAYS been that 99.9% of all wrestlers are jobbers (and
: >I'm 100% correct).
: Sorry, but you are wrong. A jobber is "Jerry Flynn". Loses the
: majority of his matches. Hogan losing one match does not make him a
: jobber.
Hoggan losing to one SUPERSTAR doesn't make him a jobber. But Hoggan
losing to a lot of Superstars over the course of a few month or losing a
single match to an accepted jobber (e.g. Jacques Rougeau) makes him a jobber.
Goldberg losing a match does not make him a jobber. The list
: goes on. Jobber is a term not associated with main eventers or upper
: midcarders. Jobbing yes, Jobber no.
Then why does Rock call eveyone that he thinks he can beat a "Jabronie"
and why did Mero call Tom Brandi (a man who doesn't fit your description
of the term) "nothing but a jobber"?
: >Wake up and realize the truth about wrestling.
: What about it? It's sports-entertainment. No losers and no winners.
: Just actors.
Wrong. There are "stars" and there is the supporting cast (i.e. the
jobbers).
: >: Which WWF are you watching? The Tag Straps have only recently been
: >: devalued since Shamrock/Bossman took them.
: >
: >What WWF have you been watching. Name one tag team in recent memory
: >whose member WEREN'T jobbers in singles action. I think the last one was
: >Michaels and Deasal (Kevvan Nash). When Shawn threw the belts away he
: >also threw away the prestige of that title (remeber how Bob Holly and
: >X-Pox won the tournament and held the titles for less than a day!?!)
: Ok, when you put it that way....I think the Tag straps were devalued
: when singles guys were put in teams to win them. (SCSA/Mankind) etc.
: I think they did ok with the NAO, and soon they'll be up there
: again...
Owen and Bulldog DID make credible tag champs, but Vince ruined it when
he put the rag-tag team of Austin and Michaels together and on their
first match as a team they defeated Owen and DBS cleanly for the title
which Shawn promptly discarded.
;)
FireBall
Martin) wrote this little gem:
>Hoggan losing to one SUPERSTAR doesn't make him a jobber. But Hoggan
>losing to a lot of Superstars over the course of a few month or losing a
>single match to an accepted jobber (e.g. Jacques Rougeau) makes him a jobber.
>
> Goldberg losing a match does not make him a jobber. The list
>: goes on. Jobber is a term not associated with main eventers or upper
>: midcarders. Jobbing yes, Jobber no.
>
>Then why does Rock call eveyone that he thinks he can beat a "Jabronie"
>and why did Mero call Tom Brandi (a man who doesn't fit your description
>of the term) "nothing but a jobber"?
How does Tom Brandi not fit my description of the term? He was never
a midcarder. We all had labeled him a jobber. Nothing more. As for
the Rock he calls everyone a Jabronie cause that's his schtick (quite
honestly it's rather tiring to hear him on the mike, but that's just
me).
>: What about it? It's sports-entertainment. No losers and no winners.
>: Just actors.
>Wrong. There are "stars" and there is the supporting cast (i.e. the
>(jobbers).
But not according to your definition. According to you, the WWF is
full of supporting cast and no stars. This is where our contention
is.
take care.
Happy New Year
Fireball
Don Martin
: On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:05:10 GMT, mart...@zoo.utoronto.ca (Don
: Martin) wrote this little gem:
: >Hoggan losing to one SUPERSTAR doesn't make him a jobber. But Hoggan
: >losing to a lot of Superstars over the course of a few month or losing a
: >single match to an accepted jobber (e.g. Jacques Rougeau) makes him a jobber.
: >
: > Goldberg losing a match does not make him a jobber. The list
: >: goes on. Jobber is a term not associated with main eventers or upper
: >: midcarders. Jobbing yes, Jobber no.
: >
: >Then why does Rock call eveyone that he thinks he can beat a "Jabronie"
: >and why did Mero call Tom Brandi (a man who doesn't fit your description
: >of the term) "nothing but a jobber"?
: How does Tom Brandi not fit my description of the term? He was never
: a midcarder.
Sure he was! He started out with a big push, beating a series of jobbers
and even had his own theme music. Then all of a sudden the announcers
stopped hyping him and he never won a single match until that pseudo push
against Mero.
We all had labeled him a jobber.
People who knew him from other feds weren't calling him a jobber.
Nothing more. As for
: the Rock he calls everyone a Jabronie cause that's his schtick (quite
: honestly it's rather tiring to hear him on the mike, but that's just
: me).
No it's not just you. ;)
: >: What about it? It's sports-entertainment. No losers and no winners.
: >: Just actors.
: >Wrong. There are "stars" and there is the supporting cast (i.e. the
: >(jobbers).
: But not according to your definition. According to you, the WWF is
: full of supporting cast and no stars. This is where our contention
: is.
WWF has maaaayyybe 3 "stars" (the ones who are constantly in the
spotlight. The other guys serve to build angles around those guys and
fill time with "garbage" angles.
: Happy New Year
Drive safely!
;)
FireBall
wrote this little gem:
>: How does Tom Brandi not fit my description of the term? He was never
>: a midcarder.
>
>Sure he was! He started out with a big push, beating a series of jobbers
>and even had his own theme music. Then all of a sudden the announcers
>stopped hyping him and he never won a single match until that pseudo push
>against Mero.
Without wasting too much time on this issue, Tom Brandi (IMO) was
never a midcarder. He beat a coupld of jobbers, WWF saw he was going
nowhere and made a jobber. What he did in other feds was irrelevent.
In the WWF he was a jobber.
>WWF has maaaayyybe 3 "stars" (the ones who are constantly in the
>spotlight. The other guys serve to build angles around those guys and
>fill time with "garbage" angles.
I think you're being a bit too conservative. I count more than that
(less than 10 more than 3).
Have one...
Fireball
Don Martin
: On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 01:39:34 GMT, mart...@zoo.utoronto.ca (Don Martin)
: wrote this little gem:
: >: How does Tom Brandi not fit my description of the term? He was never
: >: a midcarder.
: >
: >Sure he was! He started out with a big push, beating a series of jobbers
: >and even had his own theme music. Then all of a sudden the announcers
: >stopped hyping him and he never won a single match until that pseudo push
: >against Mero.
: Without wasting too much time on this issue, Tom Brandi (IMO) was
: never a midcarder. He beat a coupld of jobbers, WWF saw he was going
: nowhere and made a jobber. What he did in other feds was irrelevent.
: In the WWF he was a jobber.
He had a gimmick=push=he started out at least as a mid-carder
: >WWF has maaaayyybe 3 "stars" (the ones who are constantly in the
: >spotlight. The other guys serve to build angles around those guys and
: >fill time with "garbage" angles.
: I think you're being a bit too conservative. I count more than that
: (less than 10 more than 3).
Let's see: Austin, Undertaker, and roving in and out of the spotlight
Rocky, Mankind, and maybe Kane (tho' Kane's character is more of a
mindless lackey). I don't count the other title belt holders because,
let's face it, those titles are only to appease the plebeian wrestlers who
think they deserve a push. Vince and most of the marks only care about
what wrestler is world champ (and with the numerous title changes, even
that belt is losing its value).
;)