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Scott Keith

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Okay, quick public service announcement...

I'm not one to condone turning your back on wrestling of any sort, but I
BEG you, I urge you, PLEASE do not give this new WOW wrestling thing ANY
support in the form of watching the shows, buying the PPV or buying tickets
to events.

I don't want to get into the nasty details, but David McLane (the owner of
WOW and the guy who ran GLOW years back) is pond scum. And this is coming
from a guy who can forgive Vince McMahon and Eric Bischoff for a lot of
stuff. David McLane is the worst human being, and I use that term loosely,
on the face of the earth. You think Vince treats his guys badly? McLane
treats his "girls" like shit, soliciting sexual favors from them and then
paying them like slaves. When one of his performers broke her leg on his
syndicated show (taped weeks in advance) he spent the entire hour replaying
the breakage from EVERY CONCEIVABLE ANGLE, over and over. It was truly the
most sickening thing I've ever seen on a wrestling program, EVER. Then he
fired her for missing work. Then hired her back for EVEN LESS.

I just want to urge a total boycott of this asshole -- don't report about
him on your websites, don't send any money his way, just ignore everything
he does and hopefully he'll crawl back under the rock he's been under since
1989.

Thanks...

Scott "Netcop" Keith / ske...@home.com / ICQ # 28819658
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hsb

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Weird. I (actually) saw ET today. On it they interviewed the chicks of
WOW. They were saying how "good" their promotion is compared to the
WWF's (of course WCW isn't even mentioned). And of course the good
ol'media, who NEVER research ANY wrestling stories went with the status
quo- Sable was sexually harrassed! Sable is a victim! Other crap too.
And they brought up WOW as a good example of a positive role model
wrestling federation.

If what you say is true Scott.. I'm sensing some future troubling PR for
wrestling. (Stupid Sable. I hope WWF expose her and reduce her further
than Sunny. Suny, who now will do phone messages for money!? Why
doesn't she does do porn? Less embaressing.)


Lance A Visser

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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ske...@home.com (Scott Keith) writes:

+>Okay, quick public service announcement...

+>I'm not one to condone turning your back on wrestling of any sort, but I
+>BEG you, I urge you, PLEASE do not give this new WOW wrestling thing ANY
+>support in the form of watching the shows, buying the PPV or buying tickets
+>to events.

+>I don't want to get into the nasty details, but David McLane (the owner of
+>WOW and the guy who ran GLOW years back) is pond scum.

He didn't really run GLOW as far I could tell. He was the main
announcer for it and then split off with several of the better (in GLOW
terms....which are low) performers into POWW. POWW lasted a little
while, then folded.
You are correct about what he is. The good thing is that he
isn't very competent in terms of running a promotion and will likely
not last very long.


D-Chance.

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Scott Keith wrote:

>I don't want to get into the nasty details, but David McLane (the owner of

>WOW and the guy who ran GLOW years back) is pond scum. And this is coming
>from a guy who can forgive Vince McMahon and Eric Bischoff for a lot of
>stuff. David McLane is the worst human being, and I use that term loosely,
>on the face of the earth. You think Vince treats his guys badly? McLane
>treats his "girls" like shit, soliciting sexual favors from them and then
>paying them like slaves.

No worse than Patterson and his "boys"...

> When one of his performers broke her leg on his
>syndicated show (taped weeks in advance) he spent the entire hour replaying
>the breakage from EVERY CONCEIVABLE ANGLE, over and over.

Like the overly replayed broken ankle suffered by Owen(? I think it was...
who then hobbled around the ring for a couple of week in an air cast).
And how many performers have had concussion shots replayed over
and over in the WWF...

> It was truly the
>most sickening thing I've ever seen on a wrestling program, EVER.

Moreso than the sight of Mick Foley with a tooth sticking out his nose
(which was also replayed, ad nauseum; but he was smiling, so it was
ok, right)?

>Then he
>fired her for missing work.

As have many male wrestlers... Waltman, DBS, etc.

>Then hired her back for EVEN LESS.

Nothing unusual in the business... I'm sure that if the likes
of a Shane Douglas wants airtime, he'll sign a contract; but
it will be at whatever promotion's price.


>I just want to urge a total boycott of this asshole -- don't report about
>him on your websites, don't send any money his way, just ignore everything
>he does and hopefully he'll crawl back under the rock he's been under since
>1989.

It's too bad more people don't have this kind of conviction about the
male side of professional wrestling.

D-Chance.

Dawn

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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Wrestling is truly a slimy business to begin with, there's no doubt about that.
While I don't condone anything that these promotors do (to men or women), the
business has been this way for years (decades actually). Not only that but
it's loaded with 2nd generation guys, they MUST know what the business is like.
While I do wish that wrestlers were treated better, how much sympathy can you
have for someone who goes into with so much background info on the business?


GO8GO

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Jun 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/24/99
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> When one of his performers broke her leg on his
>syndicated show (taped weeks in advance) he spent the entire hour replaying
>the breakage from EVERY CONCEIVABLE ANGLE, over and over.

If the breakage was replayed over and over, you should have remembered it was
Susie Spirit who broke her ARM doing a sunset flip.


jpe...@cnw.com

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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In article <3771d2c3.40513751@news>,

ske...@home.com (Scott Keith) wrote:
> Okay, quick public service announcement...
>
> I'm not one to condone turning your back on wrestling of any sort,
but I BEG you, I urge you, PLEASE do not give this new WOW wrestling
thing ANY support in the form of watching the shows, buying the PPV or
buying tickets to events.

>
> I don't want to get into the nasty details, but David McLane (the
owner of WOW and the guy who ran GLOW years back) is pond scum. And
this is coming from a guy who can forgive Vince McMahon and Eric
Bischoff for a lot of stuff.

I'll agree that DBM is a piece of crap, but when you mention him in
context with EB and VKMcM, you're really just talking about three turds
of slightly varying hues.

Fortunately, DBM is about as clever as a ground squirrel when it comes
to running a promotion and has little chance of making it past the PPV.
A promotion built around an aging dyke and completely green models has
very little chance of success as a wrestling promotion in today's
market. And as a T & A fest? I hate to say it, but we'll have to thank
VKMcM for making it impossible for DBM to succeed! Unless W.O.W. goes
with showing the "puppies", there's no reason to think that the current
crop of fans will tune in... There's a grotesque sort of irony in there
somewhere...

Now, on a positive note... Any millionaires out there want to hire
someone like Akira Hokuto to come and start up a women's fed properly?

--
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Scott Keith

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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You don't cuddle with imf...@aol.complete (Dawn), you strap yourself in
and FEEL THE G'S!

That's the thing with McLane -- he only uses girls who DON'T know what a
horrible place the wrestling world is. It's like the porn industry --
promises of making them big Hollywood stars are made, without them
realizing what the truth of the matter really is.

I know Vince and his cronies are just as bad, but at least with the male
side of it the performers are generally aware beforehand of what goes on
behind-the-scenes through exposure in the indies and/or being a longtime
fan. There's ample opportunity to bail out once the realization is made
that it's not all glitz and glamour, and in fact most do so. McLane's
modus operandi is to take the relatively naive talent where he can find it,
make a quick (very, very quick) buck out of the deal, and then leave them
for dead.

Adam Engel

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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Yeah, but the second-generation guys aren't really the concern...do you
think the women in this new GLOW-esque federation know what the business is
like?
-Adam

--
"A voice said, 'Look me in the stars
And tell me truly, men of earth,
If all the soul and body scars
Were worth the price of birth.'"
-Robert Frost
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Renato Tolentino

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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I think I recall seeing something like that, except it wasn't a broken leg...
I can't remember who, but the lady dislocated her elbow and they just
kept rerunning the tape over and over. I got so disgusted I turned off
the TV and never watched the show again.


hsb

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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D-Chance. wrote:

> Like the overly replayed broken ankle suffered by Owen

I still WCW and their sticking the camera on and doing close ups on Buff
when he broke his neck was disgusting. I'm sorry but that takes the
case. They knew he'd broke his neck, they could of cut to a commercial,
a promo, anything. They didn't they tried to milk Buff's broken neck
for all it's worth.


Dawn

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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I have to say......I'm female and I take exception to you saying that these
girls don't know what they're in for. They may not have the background on the
business that the second generation MEN do but... If I had a job and I was
pressured to give sexual favors or expose myself whatever...I would then have a
choice #1) Keep my job and do what was asked of me (degrading MYSELF, not
someone else degrading me) or #2) LEAVE keeping my dignity!! I don't see the
problem. Just because they're women, it doesn't make them any more stupid or
more vulnerable! Give it up guys, women can take care of themselves and if
they say they can't they're playing on your male ego.


Matt M

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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In article <377351...@yahoo.com>, hsb <h_ste...@yahoo.com> writes

Depends on how much they replayed it really.
If a wrestler injures himself in the ring, I for one don't want the
camera to cut away. It's better to show these injuries to make people
realise how dangerous wrestling is.
Making light of real injuries in the ring and 'too many' replays is
going too far but i don't think it's abnormal in any way.
It happens all the time in football (soccer), when a player gets a
broken leg, the challenge or fall is replayed and replayed. As long as
the commentators do not make light of the situation I can't really see
alot wrong with it.
But saying that, I think the WWF did the right thing in not showing Owen
after the fatal fall.
--
Matt M


Everett Will

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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ske...@home.com (Scott Keith) wrote:

>That's the thing with McLane -- he only uses girls who DON'T know what a
>horrible place the wrestling world is. It's like the porn industry --
>promises of making them big Hollywood stars are made, without them
>realizing what the truth of the matter really is.
>
>I know Vince and his cronies are just as bad, but at least with the male
>side of it the performers are generally aware beforehand of what goes on
>behind-the-scenes through exposure in the indies and/or being a longtime
>fan. There's ample opportunity to bail out once the realization is made
>that it's not all glitz and glamour, and in fact most do so. McLane's
>modus operandi is to take the relatively naive talent where he can find it,
>make a quick (very, very quick) buck out of the deal, and then leave them
>for dead.
>

This is a question of experience, not sex or gender.
There are skilled wrestlers on the female side who know
all about the dark side of the business from experience.
Except for Bambi, none of those wrestlers are confirmed
for WOW. To me, that means the promotion won't truly
emphasize athleticism or skill. It just won't have the ability
to do so.

As for your suggestion to ignore McLane and hope he goes
away, that's simply not going to work. As long as McLane
can get to Associated Press or Entertainment Tonight,
a wrestling website boycott would be meaningless. And
as the operator of a women's wrestling e-mailing list, I would
be doing a disservice to my subscribers by attempting to
stifle news or discussion of WOW. The best way to deal
with McLane or any other promoters is with a free and fair
exchange of ideas as this discussion has demonstrated.

Everett W.


D-Chance.

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Jun 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/27/99
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jpe...@cnw.com wrote:

>Now, on a positive note... Any millionaires out there want to hire
>someone like Akira Hokuto to come and start up a women's fed properly?

You mean are there any millionaires out there who want to
become paupers within a few years?

Women's wrestling is dead. The Japanese might do ok with
their little sideshows and such; but without T&A and the
ability to instantly provide hard-ons for the men (and
occasional "others"), there's no chance in hell of a
single woman making it big, much less an entire fed.

D-Chance.

Alicia Snow

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Jun 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/27/99
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It's NOT the fact that they are women..it's the fact that these women
are probably ex-strippers/models who want to have some name and fame
and are being promised by this McLane character they will have it.
Most of them are probably very new to the business and do not know
what they've gotten themselves in to. It's like the poor 18 year old
kid who goes to a wrestling camp with dreams of making it big, he
wouldn't have any idea what he was in for either.

-Alicia Snow


savoryche...@gmail.com

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:30:03 AM2/28/16
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I never watched GLOW or WOW! I do however remember this weasel taking over Sam Meneckers play by play duties for Bruiser and Snyders WWA promotion in the late 70s. He was a pimp then too!

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