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Tha C-Dub
speak for feds like EMWC and UWF because I have not seen anything from either
nor have I joined either or plan on it. But I've heard things about them both.
This entire Topic of "eWrestling is dead, I'm gonna bury my keyboard that I
wrote a World Championship winning RP with! My Mouse will be the Tombstone!"
OK, so maybe no one has said that but anyhow -- my point. [Yes, I have one.]
Everyone is so persistent in saying the Board is dying, [Only been here for 3
months, tops so I don't know it's ups and downs] but if you could sit back for
a moment and see this entire Topic is 'rekindling' the flame of RSPWF.
Everyone is posting their 2 cents about something that everyone thinks is
evident. Obviously, eWrestling is alive and well. Just needs a
defribrilatior(sp?) to shock it every now and again.
But about the Feds -- I think that is simple. Here is my take on this. I am
in two Feds that just died. LVPWA has had way to many spurts for anyone to
even give a fuck about it. ASCW merged because of some legit problems. [More
respectable then disappearing.] However, ASCW Office gave anyone who wanted
one, a new home. Props x2. ;) So now I see this Sundevil Wrestling that
people say looks solid and shit but I see the President, Jesse Falcon I believe
and I think back. Ohio Wrestling or some shit. It opened and folded in how
long? OK then. So why would I want to join a New Fed from her? Obviously I'm
going to be hesitant about it. There is your answer for a 'lack of Rpers.'
Also, point #2 -- Feds like EMWC and UWF. OK, so they used to have the best
RPers and Angles and all this irrelivant shit. Wow, that's cool. Brody
Thunder owned EMWC with awesome Roleplays and Angles. Good for Brody Thunder
but do you see him around? [Looks into pasture] Nope. Don't focus on the
past. Guys like Thunder are gone. Deal with it. But how do you expect a RPer
to put forth 110% effort when all he hears is "Oh ya, Fed is sluggish. Lacking
a strong core of Rpers like the old days." Wow, that is motivation and a half.
LEMME BUST MY BALLS!! Oh wait, the President just said my shit is weak and he
wishes So and So would come back.
And further more, some say EMWC and UWF put out Cards 2 and 3 weeks late. If I
want to join a Fed like that as a Rookie and put forth effort and time to climb
the Ladder and really enjoy the time spent, why do I want to be in a Fed for 3
months which in actuallity has been a year because of space between Cards and
PPV's that went by? The only viable defense is "No one will help write
matches." So Summarize the fucking thing. "The Members won't like just a
summary." Easy -- tell them to help out then if they don't like the current
situation.
That is all I can say on the matter. I know some 'established vet' is going to
come back saying I'm talking about shit I have no clue about or say something
like "go back to your shitfeds" but I've been around eWrestling long enough to
know cycles and how shit works so just cuz you ain't seen me on RSPWF, don't
mean I'm new.
MDR
Alderran01
"best RPers and angles" is "irrelevant shit" in a discussion about those feds,
but let's keep going.
Secondly...try and get some facts straight before you spout off. As much
respect as I have for Rod and Thunder, he was barely in EMWC....Thunder made
his rep in LWC and IIWF mostly...but I don't think that was your point, so
let's skip that.
I don't think anyone is focusing on the past. Sure, people have said "It's not
like it once was"...but that's only natural. It's the basis of comparison. If
you don't compare it to the past, then everyday in e-w is the best day ever.
Also, I don't think saying "I wish so and so was back" is in anyway a shot to
the current crop of RPers. I believe my roster is the deepest and strongest
group of RPers you can find...but to say I didn't wish that roster still
contained names like Ezra, Hardin, Kowalski, etc. would be a lie. Hell, the
biggest reason I'd like those guys back is to see how they'd match up with the
newer guys.
However, I do stand by my statement that the overall talent pool in e-w used to
be deeper. I also stand by my statement that a large portion of the current
handlers are lacking inspiration in their angles. I think enough people have
said this now that we can pretty much grant that point. I'm not saying the
older handlers were more creative...I'm just saying the new guys need to bring
their creativity to the surface.
Next...you want to slam me for putting out late cards? Go for it. I couldn't
care less if my card is on time if it's gonna be shit. My handlers and myself
put a lot of effort into putting out a strong product and if it's gonna take
extra time to make that product great, so be it. If I have to choose between
two great cards a month and four "eh" cards...gimme the two. One of the best
feds in e-w currently [and ever], LWC, doesn't even have a set schedule.
You're lucky to get two cards a month...but you'll never find a roster who is
more loyal to a fed.
It comes down to priorities. In the past, on time cards was a big deal...ask
Mark Cutter. But nowadays, I think people prefer quality over punctualirty. I
could be wrong...and obviously, you'd disagree since you'd prefer to have a
summarized card on time than a written out card a week late...but I think the
majority of e-w leans in that direction now.
And "no one will help write matches" isn't always the only viable defense.
There's this little thing called "real life" that sometimes creeps up on us.
Sometimes you just have a wedding to go to...you have a project at work that
takes a little longer than planned...you get sick...your dog runs away from
home...your computer explodes....there's about a zillion things that can happen
in life that would cause a card to come out late, and part of your job as a
handler is to be patient and to realize that your fed head isn't getting paid
to do this. A lot of things come before e-wrestling for most people...so
expecting every card to be on time is not only unrealistic, but it's grossly
unfair.
In conclusion, everyone's entitled to their opinion...god knows I've got enough
of them. So, I'm not gonna tell you to "go back to your shitfeds"...but I am
going to tell you that I think you're off base with your opinions.
And, I also think that the discussion going on is one that's pretty healthy for
e-w. I've already had quite a few people IM me or write me to talk about some
of the stuff being discussed, so that's a good sign. Keep it up, guys....this
is one of the better exchange of thoughts that this board's had in recent
history.
Chris
EMWC Prez
***Considering clogging this board with my opinions and making SaBlue424 posts.
Mystery Man #438
> Hell, the biggest reason I'd like those guys back is to see how they'd
> match up with the newer guys.
>
> However, I do stand by my statement that the overall talent pool in
> e-w used to be deeper. I also stand by my statement that a large
> portion of the current handlers are lacking inspiration in their
> angles. I think enough people have said this now that we can pretty
> much grant that point.
Just because the majority of people say something doesn't make it true.
It might be true, but it isn't right just because a bunch of people say
it is...and who are these people saying it anyway? And where are they
saying it, because this is the first time I've heard it...of course,
that might be just because my past year or so of experience has been in
a handful of "off-RSPWF" feds where the RPs have been great reads, the
angles good and fresh, and less than 5 weekly cards more than two days
late in the past 10 months over three feds. But then, these
aren't/weren't feds recognized/accepted by the RSPWF regulars, so I
guess they don't matter.
(Small wonder I believe the decline is not in the quality of ewrestling,
but in the relevance of ewrestling's "official" newsgroup.)
The majority can be wrong. Believe me? Or do I need to point out that
whole "the world is flat" idea the majority of the world held at one
time? Or that "the Colts will destroy the Jets in Super Bowl 3" thing.
> I'm not saying the older handlers were more creative...I'm just saying
> the new guys need to bring their creativity to the surface.
Or need to be given the chance to let their creativity come to the
surface. Hard to let your creativity come to the surface when one's
strats and inrings are ignored and left off the card for no reason,
wouldn't you agree? [For the record Chris, this is not a dig at you,
I've never been in your fed. But this IS an experience I've had in a
certain other fed that was big in the eyes of this newsgroup and was
ranked high on place like EWU or something basically because it had a
bunch of old "big names" which led to people ignoring the fact that the
cards were biweekly, consistently late by several days, the RPs were
few, and all on card events conferrred to align with the best interests
of one handler (the world champion). Oh, and there was one good feud
(the only decent one) and very little in the angle department (in terms
of quantity, originality, and quality).]
> Chris
> EMWC Prez
> ***Considering clogging this board with my opinions and making
> SaBlue424 posts.
>
HEY!
No way man, that's gimmick infringment.
babu 484 already has that base covered.
You are lacking inspiration in your angles. (-:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
--
Mystery Man #438
That felt good.
Really.
Might do another babu 484 run soon.
Actually, who am I to say no to parody? Go ahead if the muse so
inclines you. Just make sure it's funny.
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Before you buy.
Josh
>So now I see this Sundevil Wrestling that
>people say looks solid and shit but I see the President, Jesse Falcon I
>believe
>and I think back. Ohio Wrestling or some shit. It opened and folded in how
>long? OK then. So why would I want to join a New Fed from her? Obviously
>I'm
>going to be hesitant about it.
Mike, I don't know if you should be really hesitant about joining. Jessica runs
a pretty damn good fed, and I remember seeing stuff about the Ohio fed. Of
course it was going close, she was the only one doing work. Nobody even
"bothered" to step up and help her out.
I have alot of faith in her new fed, Sundevil Wrestling Promotions. In fact, I
am not only active in the federation, but a weekly writer as well. She has a
lot of good ideas, and with a few writer on her staff, I wouldn't be suprised
if this tunrs into a really "big" fed.
Just my .02.
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El Pato
> Mike, I don't know if you should be really hesitant about joining. Jessica
runs
> a pretty damn good fed, and I remember seeing stuff about the Ohio fed. Of
> course it was going close, she was the only one doing work. Nobody even
> "bothered" to step up and help her out.
What I wonder is this: Should anyone have?
Jessica, who most people (including myself) don't know other than a few
insignificant IRC sessions here and there, tried to open a fed by herself
before making sure that she had writers, enough handlers who *wanted* to be
there, and a general sense of how things were going to work.
She learned her lesson, and made up for ten fold with her planning of SWP. I
think if anything it was a learning experience for her.
But now I have to tend to my sheets. They've been in the washing machine 5
minutes too long, which means my lovely dorm building folks are probably
stealing them.
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Tha C-Dub
looking at your RPing .. for obvious reasons.
Tha C-Dub
what I said this morning, [I still haven't gone to sleep and I feel like shit]
but I'm not excusing anything. However, I do understand the fact that you are
more concerned about putting out a solid, quality Product then rushing
anything. But that isn't what I meant. I meant that if it was just completely
neccesary that time has gone by and maybe faith in the Fed diminished or just
too much time has gone by, Summarizing it could be a solution. I love to see
entire Cards and I know today not many are on time. And I know 'real life' can
just creep up on anyone but how does that justify the fact a Fed might only
have 4 Writers? Ultimately, shouldn't someone step up? Because 9 times out of
10, the person bitching to you about the Card late and him questioning the
stability of the Fed, in your case I'll use EMWC as the example, is the SAME
person who will say "Sorry I can't write the Match. I gotta go walk my dog."
Or some stupid shit like that. So why cater to someone like that? Trust me,
I've run Feds. I know exactley how it is not to rush things because we're not
getting compensated. [If we are, I'm only gettin sandbox.com dollars. ;)]
When I said those Feds had the best RPers and Angles is irrelivant I meant no
matter what happened in the past, it isn't happening now. There are no more
Brody Thunder's or J.W. Hardin's, or Reeds or whoever else was just a nasty
RPer. But newer guys out there do have the potential if given the chance. I'm
not sure about you, Chris Blue, but I don't see now a days especially too many
Presidents giving someone a full fledged chance to go somewhere and that guy
just running with it. Why? Because they are usually measured up against
someone from the past their most similiar to and pigeon holed into certain
expectations. You know you've seen it. "THE NEXT blah blah blah."
Why the NEXT Blah when it could be THE NEW BLAH. Do you know what I mean?
Just had to point out I knew someone would say "Don't go spouting off your
mouth without facts." But I just used Thunder as an example, not neccesarily
saying it was a fact. So I guess I'll just use Brody Thunder in LCW as an
example.
I agree with the comparison but to what extent do we need to use guys retired
and gone as measuring sticks? It is always good but I don't think anyone will
replace them or be as good only because different people will RP different
styles. Different gimmicks and approaches. I don't think I said "I wish I had
so and so" was a shot @ RPers and if I did, well .. lemme retrack. Now, I'm
not saying this is something you do [Chris Blue] but I am speaking in general.
Maybe you think I am coming out after you, I'm not. Perhaps your Roster is the
deepest and strongest, I don't know. I'm not in EMWC. But from what I have
seen and that is all I can speak for is "I wish NAME was back to maybe teach
these new guys I thing or two" or something along those lines. The majority of
the time when someone returns when they should be gone, all they do is tarnish
themselves.
And Josh, you're probably right but I'm just saying from a RPers perspective,
it usually isn't to enticing to join a Fed you know is Ran by someone who just
previously ran one and folded it. I'm not knocking her or Blue or anyone else,
I'm just citing some observations. That's all so take it how you will.
MDR
Ray Thomas
MMOW and Dan Stevens, so even if I was invited (Which I will never be since
Stevens and I hate each other) I'd turn it down.
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* Big_Daddy is now afraid
<Soze> LOL
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Dan Stevens
Your the egotistical bastard who's obsessed with dumping batteries on people.
You even wanted to burn Dan Stevens with some chemical compound in a beaker.
So you can wish you got an invitation to the next biggest thing, that I'm
going to call the renissance of e-wrestling. A small roster, everyone get's an
angle, and we're gonna have some fun.
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>"Bling Bling"
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WE ARE... THE O-TEAM!
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This is my friend, The Flying Scotsman's AIM "I'm not here" message...
scotsXnews: Sleeping. Well not REALLY sleeping *wink* *wink*....nah, I'm
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ya know? Okay so it's a male dog.....at least I'm not on AOL IM being gay like
you!
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He also likes cheese.
Oh, and he's the founding member of the RSPWF SECRET SOCIETY!
The Secret Society is Secret once again...
PrimeTime815: I just got one of those pads for the computer too...
Blottieb: Is it on it's period?
Dragon rana: I just watched a nigger wrestle a canadian
Dragon rana: And it was good
Dragon rana: Well, Evan Karagis does have the abs to die for
Dragon rana: I'd like to cover him up in oil and rub my cock all over him
El Patico: <Has sex with Blottie and then runs like a child who runs>
Danny Vigilante: This is a travisty.
Blottieb: That you can't spell?
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TigerDream2000<!-- (12:37:05 PM)-->: BECAUSE MY PENIS IS PURPLE, I'M IN A
SHITTY MOOD, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY WOKEN UP YET!
TigerDream2000<!-- (12:37:07 PM)-->: FUCK!
El Patico<!-- (12:37:27 PM)-->: So what does that have to do with you and me
getting it on?
AlanDude80: I am making Alexa pregnant
Blottieb: Right now?!
Blottieb: Don't you think you should get off the computer if you're
doing that?
Dragon Suplex: I may join a woman's division
Blottieb: That's a mighty big step.
Blottieb: I mean, the breast implants alone have to be pretty
expensive... and the reconstructive surgery! Jeez... you better have a lot of
money!
Dragon Suplex: <Has 27 cents>
Blottieb: If I were gay, you'd be chained in my basement, and you'd
entertain me by dancing around nude, screaming "CLEFAIRY, CLEFAIRY, CLEFAIRY!"
while I made love to a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on rye bread.
El Patico: Why do you need to be gay for that?
Blottieb: Why do you hate Tina?
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she is obnoxious and loud, she talks a lot of shit, she thinks she's hot
shit.....and some other reasons I'm sure..I myself think she is just fine...but
whatever
El Patico: I'm thinking of joining the KKK. I heard they have good
chicken wings at the meetings
El Patico: I blew up my TV.
Blottieb: ~!
Blottieb: How'd you do that?
El Patico: I... tried to turn it on.
Though WWF has banned such high impact moves like the DDT and Piledriver, the
jury's still out as to whether or not they'll ban other high impact moves like
the Rafter Flop, and the D-Lo Neckbraka.
<Vaggy throws cabbage at Blottie, sniffs his crotch, and hobbles away to have
sex with Guapo Miguel> - Written By Pato (my hero!)
Topps has announced that in September they will begin offering WCW/NWO Trading
Cards. Autographed hologram cards will be randomly inserted, and 10 lucky
collectors will get Hulk Hogan's 1932 Rookie Card.
Toy Biz has announced that it will release action figures of WCW/NWO stars
starting in December. Each character will have a unique action feature. Look
for Sting to have special Bat-Swinging action, Curt Hennig will have a
removeable knee, and the Kevin Nash figure will want to stay in the package and
not do much of anything.
The WWF announced today that Federation Superstar HHH has been signed to a
multi-year contract extension. In related news, WCW announced that Villano IV
finally got enough change to pay his gas bill.
In a shocking story, at WWF's Summerslam PPV The Undertaker ripped the mask off
Kane's face revealing a huge surprise to the thousands of fans in attendance:
The Undertaker still sucks.
Reports indicate another Kane vs UT feud is in the making, only this time
Undertaker will go over in 20% more of the matches. WWF bookers are currently
trying to figure out what 20% more of 100% actually is.
After the recent success of the cardboard cut-out of Scott Hall on Nitro, the
WCW plans to use cardboard cut-outs of other wrestlers, namely, Kevin Nash,
claiming, "it'll draw big numbers, it's a new idea and it even has a better
workrate."
A recent Hollywood insider report shows that 98% of the WWF female audience
tunes in to watch either Edge and Christian or the Hardy Boys. The remaining 2%
is comprised of Trish Stratus's breasts.
Former valet Tammy Lynn Sytch recently was in a car wreck that left her with
several stitches in her mouth. This event threatens to destroy her lucrative
business, as now she can merely give 3 blow jobs at a time.
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A man was arrested on suspicion of assaulting his girlfriend in a supermarket
parking lot with a 10-pound tuna.
Nicholas Anthony Vitalich, 24, could be charged with assault with a deadly
weapon, police said. He was arrested Tuesday.
``People will use whatever weapon they have available. In this case it was a
fish,'' said Lt. Jim Barker of the police domestic-violence unit.
He added: ``It's a serious incident.''
The man's girlfriend told police that she and Vitalich argued and that he
struck her several times in the face and lower body with the 2-foot fish, which
he had just bought. She suffered cuts and bruises.
______________
Dragon rana: Cops is stupid. White trash may be least favorite type of
people. They is unlearned cause their schooling ain't adequate.
Blottieb: BigHort: I sucked dick for Coke. Have you ever sucked dick
for
Marijuana?
SiXxTyNyNe: Can't a guy just give head for free anymore?
BigHort: NO!
SiXxTyNyNe: Fuck that. I refuse to pay Blottie any more damn money for
his sub-par oral excursions.
Big Hort: I wonder how he thinks about that.
SiXxTyNyNe: Who cares. The bastard.
Blottieb: Someone isn't getting head for awhile...
AmericanPsyko138: LOL
AmericanPsyko138: Damn right.
Blottieb: Which means I got room on my schedule.
Blottieb: I can fit ya in. *Wink*
AmericanPsyko138: WOOOOOO!
AmericanPsyko138: I have't gotten head in awhile.
Blottieb: Really? What happened to Wayne?
AmericanPsyko138: He's in England.
Blottieb: Oh yeah. I thought you had a bi-continental thing going on
there.
Blottieb: His parent's ship him to you, you pay them for shipping, they
throw a party because he's gone, and you force him to blow you with his 15 year
old virgin lips.
AmericanPsyko138: Hmmm...tha'ts not a bad idear.
Blottieb: I know. That's why I thought of it. 8)
Blottieb: Head + 15 Year Old Hypertalkative Boy = One Hell Of A Good
Time.
Blottieb: Plus, I love his accent.
AmericanPsyko138: LOL
Blottieb: He's all like... "Blimey, it's mighty small, sir"
"CLOSE YOUR MOUTH AND SUCK, DAMN IT!"
AmericanPsyko138: What popped into your head when you first heard it?
AmericanPsyko138: The one word?
Blottieb: The one word?
AmericanPsyko138: Yeah.
AmericanPsyko138: Everyone I've spoken to has said one thing : "Pip."
Blottieb: Pip.
Blottieb: He never said pip.
Blottieb: Though he might of when I shot in his mouth.
AmericanPsyko138: LOL
AmericanPsyko138: No, the word thatp opped into everyone else's head was
pip.
Blottieb: It sounded something like "PiGLUGGLUGGLUG"
JustinVCW: Well, this ECW game sucks as much dick as Pato on a good
night.
<Al_Koholic> <Birm> Jessica looks like the kinda girl I'd bang without thinking
twice
<Birm> ...?
<Birm> There's a kind of girl I'd bang without thinking twice?
<Birm> Other than "above 18", I mean?
RomanBlood: Heh... yuh
cbuseeeeee: your speaking in "Joe" again
cbuseeeeee: hold
cbuseeeeee: [gets out "Drunken Idiot Southern Dictionary, Volume II]
cbuseeeeee: aight
cbuseeeeee: fire away
Dragon Rana: The best part about college:
Dragon Rana: If I wanted to get laid, all I have to do is jiggle my dick
IR Retard Bob: if I was in a band that was famous I wouldn't even put
the cd out I'd just put everything on Napster
Blottieb: Heh. Yeah, but then people would be fighting for your songs.
IR Retard Bob: so I'd make them fight to the death and steal there
wallet when they get killed.
IR Retard Bob: that's how I'd get paid
IR Retard Bob: I'd take the credit cards and old condoms from 1987
Alderran01: Hey, want in the EMWC?
Big Hort Who's dick do I have to suck?
Alderran01: No one's, you're just in.
Big Hort: *Starts sucking Blue's cock*
Alderran01: You're sucking a cartoon dog's cock?
Big Hort: Mmmm... twinkies...
Dragon Rana: Please, we must stop Dean Malenko. Visit
www.deanmalenkoeatsdogs.com for more information.
JustinVCW: I HATE this fucking Best Buy commercial.
JustinVCW: In that damn dorm, and they blow the power...
JustinVCW: I hate it for two reasons.
JustinVCW: REASON #1: The moron wigger that says "I gots da boom-booms."
JustinVCW: They're fucking speakers.
JustinVCW: And if I catch ANY of my friends carrying speakers saying "I
gots da boom-booms", I'm shooting them in the face with an elephant rifle.
Big Hort: I will mark if Rock was the one who ran over Austin.
Blottieb: I will mark if Ted Dibease was the man who ran over Austin.
Blottieb: Going "EVERYONE HAS A PRICE! And I'm poor."
I love using wrestling terms in real life. I went to the bank and got out
$40.00 from the teller, and when she asked if there was anything else she could
help me with I said, "It doesn't matter what your name is!" They have pretty
good security there.
The Iceman
E-Wrestling isn't dead...it's just suffering a lack of true dedication.
Leagues pop up and then take forever to produce a card. Hell, even the
"established" leagues are always lagging behind. I know they have lives
outside of e-wrestling and that's fine...but...if they wanted to get
something of top quality out on time...they would find a way.
Then you have handlers who think they deserve to be on top of things just
because they were good in another league or a couple people get in their
ear. Handlers are too impatient these days. To develop...it takes time and
it takes determination. When I ran GPW, yes...THAT GPW, I made it clear to
anyone who entered the league that they would have to work their way up
regardless. The ones who bitched about it...never amounted to anything.
The ones who took it and made something out of it...made it to the top.
Also, a lot of glass ceilings exist in e-wrestling. When you have a group
of good quality roleplayers in a league...they will tend not to want to work
with the developing people. I find this as a slap in the face because these
handlers forget where they come from. It not only makes the developing
handlers feel bad...it makes the "quality" roleplayers look like dicks in
the eyes of the rest of the league.
Then you have all these "big" superfeds like LWC, EMWC, IWWC, and the list
goes on. I don't have a problem with leagues wanting to set a standard for
their handlers...however...these leagues get a idea in their head that they
are the pinnacle of e-wrestling. I don't think anyone league is the
"pinnacle" of e-wrestling and then, when you have handlers on working to
make it to one of the big leagues...it crushes all the small leagues that
are trying to develop. These small leagues generally do not care about
rankings or anything like that. My room-mate runs one and his handlers,
even though they are inexperienced, have a ball in the league.
That brings me to the final point...the fun factor. E-Wrestling simply
isn't fun for a lot of people anymore. People were leaving GPW left and
right because it wasn't "fun" anymore. Hell, I would be the first to agree
with them. Well...they were also leaving because John Armstrong and Ian
Fielding were getting in their ears but that's a different story....how's
IWWC John? How's the job at the paper Ian? Anyway...when a certain core
group of handlers control all the angles...it sucks all the fun out of
things. If E-Wrestling wants to revive itself...it has to make a decision:
It has to decide if they want the handlers running the angles or if they
want the booker and the fed-head running things, considering it is his job.
I take the second choice because it is the more realistic approach. Most
fed-heads I've seen have very few creative ideas and then, when the ones who
do put creative ideas out on the table...the handlers bitch because they
don't have any control over their characters.
Well...I could rant on and on about the state of e-wrestling right now. I
really don't feel like it because I'm retired and I am starting my new
project very soon. Anyone who wishes to flame me...you know the adress.
jamh...@my-deja.com
WOOHOOO, stuck my nose in where it didn't belong!!! I'm a true RSPWF'er
now!
In article <20000925213623...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
--
James Hall
President of IWC
Jamh...@yahoo.com
-We FINALLY have openings!!!!!
Al Koholic
>hate
>MMOW and Dan Stevens, so even if I was invited (Which I will never be since
>Stevens and I hate each other) I'd turn it down.
Ray, you can be a real good kid if you try. Really, you can, but dude, give it
up. There is no "hate" anywhere. You feel that there is. Dan doesn't hate
you. To him, you're nothing but a nuisance. You've led your self to believe
that someone over a computer hates you and everything about you, so you hate
him back. Almost like someone else I know, who I don't need to mention because
then the thread would keep going and going about people who think that others
hate them online. Anyway, just a few thoughts from a retired guy or something.
L8r.
-Me
Shawn Mihalek
> Yes...and everyone can see it as well. Oh, don't forget liar too.
>
>
> WOOHOOO, stuck my nose in where it didn't belong!!! I'm a true RSPWF'er
> now!
Welcome aboard.
heh
--
=============
Shawn Mihalek
RSPWF Survivor Participant~!
(Marks for Ace of Hearts)
Arrr look at me sig, matey, bunghole
Probably listening to "Come go with me"
by Teddy Pendergrass right friggin' now!
miha...@home.com
ICQ: 7871409
Gateway is the MAN!
I have an extra long... Signature
Signature v3.0, 7-21-00
LOL at THE LAST WORD'S lack
of internet access.
Handler of -
========
His Wife
(readily admitted by her, too!)
========
The Wasp
http://www.thewasp.8m.com
Participant in WRESTLEBOWL 2!!!
WILL win MOTR IV :-)
(57-43-6)
Thanks to Mike Hames for putting together
The Wasp's record!
http://www.thewasp.8m.com
#58 RSPWF Top 200 for 1999
FINALIST in the MOTR III !!!!!
ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Current:
#58 RSPWF Top 200 for 1999
#20 RSPWF Top 20 for January 2000
Had one of his greatest matches and made it to the
Finals in Nick Demola's MOTR III
Final American Wrestling Revolution U.S. Champion
(AWR has closed)
Former:
UCWF Television Champion
1/2 UCWF Tag Team Champions with
"The Master of Mayhem" Rogue
2 time NWWA All State Champion
NWWA Wrestler of the Month October, 1999
1998 SFWL Shoot fight Champion
SFWL Intercontinental Tag Team Champion with
Terror
2 time SFWL Extreme Champion
SFWL Intercontinental Champion
ACK!!! The Wasp's -FANS- have noted that he
once wrestled for a World Title! :} And got
his ass handed to him in the process
========
The Sanitarium Sector
"Hellhound" Lew Decipher
"Trickster" Bo Zombardi
Their greatest moment was an invasion
of Chuck e. Cheese.
May never be seen again
ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Former:
"Hellhound" Lew Decipher was allowed to cut
promo's at Nick Demola's MOTR I
========
My first chat sig!
[09:01pm] <jasonblake> Yeah, Beer should be better for you.
[09:02pm] <jasonblake> Sex is better when both partners are drunk though...
[09:02pm] <JustinVCW> But that's how you get to have sex with a dresser
drawer, too.
[09:02pm] * JustinVCW looks around.
[09:03pm] <JustinVCW> Stop staring at me like that.
[09:03pm] <Shawny-Wasp> rofl
[09:03pm] <Shawny-Wasp> well... i've pissed in 'em, so i at least feel your
pain
[09:03pm] <JustinVCW> I DIDN'T DO IT!
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My second chat sig!
[10:04pm] «(×X×)» Can't Join Channel, You Are Banned: #e-wrestling
[10:05pm] <Shawny-Wasp> damn, still banned from #e-wrestling
[10:05pm] «(×X×)» Can't Join Channel, You Are Banned: #e-wrestling
[10:05pm] <Shawny-Wasp> i don't think chris blue likes me
[10:05pm] <Waldrop> Blue doesn't like anyone
[10:06pm] <Soze> Blue is fat. Don't worry about it.
[10:06pm] <Shawny-Wasp> oh ok. just making sure, 'cause that would hurt my
feelings
[10:06pm] <Shawny-Wasp> he's fat? fuck it then, who cares
> In article <20000925213623...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
> mdrc...@aol.com (Tha C-Dub) wrote:
Dan Stevens
it
up. There is no "hate" anywhere. >>
It's true, it's true.
<< You feel that there is. Dan doesn't hate
you. To him, you're nothing but a nuisance. >>
Oh it's true, it's true.
<< You've led your self to believe
that someone over a computer hates you and everything about you, so you hate
him back. >>
You and monkeyan are both a nuisance.
<< Almost like someone else I know, who I don't need to mention because
then the thread would keep going and going about people who think that others
hate them online. >>
Yes, and we only want healthy conversations now. =)
<< Anyway, just a few thoughts from a retired guy or something.
L8r.
-Me >>
Nice to see you again Higor.
"Bling Bling!"
-Dan Stevens
Dan Stevens
President of the Marquee Men of Wrestling
Handler of Dan "windy city" Stevens [NACW, ASCW]
"Let the Mayhem begin."
Mr. Saturday Night
Loaded Gun" Chris Tucker), and i was pretty impressed by the first
card, which has 3 matches on, next weeks card has totally different
wrestlers, which gives us a break, and doesn't give Jessica too much
of a load when writing.
SWP Rocks, oh it's true alright.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:13:23 -0700, "El Pato"
<Drago...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike, I don't know if you should be really hesitant about joining. Jessica
>runs
>> a pretty damn good fed, and I remember seeing stuff about the Ohio fed. Of
>> course it was going close, she was the only one doing work. Nobody even
>> "bothered" to step up and help her out.
>
>What I wonder is this: Should anyone have?
>
>Jessica, who most people (including myself) don't know other than a few
>insignificant IRC sessions here and there, tried to open a fed by herself
>before making sure that she had writers, enough handlers who *wanted* to be
>there, and a general sense of how things were going to work.
>
>She learned her lesson, and made up for ten fold with her planning of SWP. I
>think if anything it was a learning experience for her.
>
>But now I have to tend to my sheets. They've been in the washing machine 5
>minutes too long, which means my lovely dorm building folks are probably
>stealing them.
--
Mr. Saturday Night
corino...@my-deja.com
it, the more I figured I need to, because there are some pretty
ridiculous comments here.
> Then you have all these "big" superfeds like LWC, EMWC, IWWC, and the
list
> goes on. I don't have a problem with leagues wanting to set a
standard for
> their handlers...however...these leagues get a idea in their head that
they
> are the pinnacle of e-wrestling. I don't think anyone league is the
> "pinnacle" of e-wrestling and then, when you have handlers on working
to
> make it to one of the big leagues...it crushes all the small leagues
that
> are trying to develop. These small leagues generally do not care
about
> rankings or anything like that. My room-mate runs one and his
handlers,
> even though they are inexperienced, have a ball in the league.
>
This coming from a guy who constantly promoted GPW as being "better than
EMWC, UWF, LWC, UEW, etc." This from a guy who labeled The Killing Box
match between Ezra and Claw as "overbooked rubbish".
Pot... kettle... black.
> That brings me to the final point...the fun factor. E-Wrestling
simply
> isn't fun for a lot of people anymore. People were leaving GPW left
and
> right because it wasn't "fun" anymore. Hell, I would be the first to
agree
> with them. Well...they were also leaving because John Armstrong and
Ian
> Fielding were getting in their ears but that's a different
story....how's
> IWWC John? How's the job at the paper Ian?
So that's what this is all about, isn't it? Interesting, since this is
the first time I've heard you mention anything about it.
David, I hate to break this to you, but the people were leaving GPW
_way_ before you got this notion than Ian and I were telling people to
quit. Want a list? Lew Spectre, Priest Noble, Eugene Robinson, James
Wilson, etc.
The reason people left GPW is simple... you ran the show. Creative
control wasn't in your vocabulary. You see, there's a difference
between e-wrestling and "real" wrestling. I know you wanted to run a
league like McMahon runs the WWF, but you can't do it that way in e-w.
People handle because they want to develop their characters, choose
their directions, etc. But you'd get an idea of how a character needed
to be, and at that moment it was set in stone.
You can believe whatever you want to about what Ian and I "did". The
bottom line is, people weren't happy. I re-opened a fed I once ran. I
invited Ian and Nick. I don't recall making Ian quit. That'd be kind
of hard, considering we live across the globe from each other. If
you'll think back, Ian tried to leave once before that, but decided to
stay. I tried to leave before that, but I decided to stay.
Don't blame your problems on me, Ian, or anyone but yourself.
And incidentally, IWWC is on hiatus, but it's not because people quit
(unlike GPW). It's because I have a job, a wife, a daughter...
something called "responsibilities", which means I don't get to sit in
front of a computer all day and all night. I have things in my life
more important than some fantasy world. Someday, you might understand
that.
> Anyway...when a certain
core
> group of handlers control all the angles...it sucks all the fun out of
> things. If E-Wrestling wants to revive itself...it has to make a
decision:
> It has to decide if they want the handlers running the angles or if
they
> want the booker and the fed-head running things, considering it is his
job.
> I take the second choice because it is the more realistic approach.
Most
> fed-heads I've seen have very few creative ideas and then, when the
ones who
> do put creative ideas out on the table...the handlers bitch because
they
> don't have any control over their characters.
>
And this is why people didn't have fun. This isn't "real" wrestling.
You're not Vince McMahon. The handlers aren't getting paid to do this
stuff, and that's the difference. We do this by choice, and therefore
expect some control over our characters. You wonder why people weren't
having any fun, David? It had nothing to do with your creativeness...
it had to do with the fact that they didn't get the same chance.
The fact is, you ran GPW for one person... David Smith. If that's how
you want to run a league, then great. If you want to book someone who
was _clearly_ out-RP'ed to win in the sole name of "heat", that's your
choice. But you, my friend, must learn to accept the outcome.
John
* ran IWWC and proud of it
The Iceman
> You know, I wasn't going to reply to this; but the more I thought about
> it, the more I figured I need to, because there are some pretty
> ridiculous comments here.
First, I want to thank John for responding to this because there is nothing
a like a heated debate on this newsgroup to get the juices running.
> > Then you have all these "big" superfeds like LWC, EMWC, IWWC, and the
> list
> > goes on. I don't have a problem with leagues wanting to set a
> standard for
> > their handlers...however...these leagues get a idea in their head that
> they
> > are the pinnacle of e-wrestling. I don't think anyone league is the
> > "pinnacle" of e-wrestling and then, when you have handlers on working
> to
> > make it to one of the big leagues...it crushes all the small leagues
> that
> > are trying to develop. These small leagues generally do not care
> about
> > rankings or anything like that. My room-mate runs one and his
> handlers,
> > even though they are inexperienced, have a ball in the league.
> >
>
> This coming from a guy who constantly promoted GPW as being "better than
> EMWC, UWF, LWC, UEW, etc." This from a guy who labeled The Killing Box
> match between Ezra and Claw as "overbooked rubbish".
>
> Pot... kettle... black.
-You're damn right I constantly promoted GPW as being better than the rest.
What fedhead would admit to running a "second" rate promotion? None that
are smart. I could care less about any of the other federations when I do
things like that...it's all part of an image that everyone seems to play
right into.
>
> > That brings me to the final point...the fun factor. E-Wrestling
> simply
> > isn't fun for a lot of people anymore. People were leaving GPW left
> and
> > right because it wasn't "fun" anymore. Hell, I would be the first to
> agree
> > with them. Well...they were also leaving because John Armstrong and
> Ian
> > Fielding were getting in their ears but that's a different
> story....how's
> > IWWC John? How's the job at the paper Ian?
>
> So that's what this is all about, isn't it? Interesting, since this is
> the first time I've heard you mention anything about it.
>
> David, I hate to break this to you, but the people were leaving GPW
> _way_ before you got this notion than Ian and I were telling people to
> quit. Want a list? Lew Spectre, Priest Noble, Eugene Robinson, James
> Wilson, etc.
I hate to break it to you John...but at least those people gave me an honest
reason and confronted me when they had problems in the league. If you
didn't like the way things going...you knew my email adress and you knew my
AOL Instant Messanger nickname. Granted, you did give me a reason and I
still have it on my computer...however...the fact that half of the people
didn't even tell me what they really thought is the reason they get zero
respect from me.
>
> The reason people left GPW is simple... you ran the show. Creative
> control wasn't in your vocabulary. You see, there's a difference
> between e-wrestling and "real" wrestling. I know you wanted to run a
> league like McMahon runs the WWF, but you can't do it that way in e-w.
> People handle because they want to develop their characters, choose
> their directions, etc. But you'd get an idea of how a character needed
> to be, and at that moment it was set in stone.
-You're damn right I rant the show and I do not deny that. It's strange
that people always harped on me for this but they failed to realize they
could develop their characters more in the roleplays while I came up with
the angles to fuel them with. I make no apologies about having control in
GPW because, frankly, that is what I was put there to do...to make the
league work and that, for me, resulted in running the storylines.
>
> You can believe whatever you want to about what Ian and I "did". The
> bottom line is, people weren't happy. I re-opened a fed I once ran. I
> invited Ian and Nick. I don't recall making Ian quit. That'd be kind
> of hard, considering we live across the globe from each other. If
> you'll think back, Ian tried to leave once before that, but decided to
> stay. I tried to leave before that, but I decided to stay.
You can believe whatever you want as well. I admit I should have never
tried to get Ian back when he left the first time. I would have had a much
better time doing Sean Willey vs. Tommy Gunn in the main event at Blazing
Glory because I know they both would have roleplayed. I know I convinced
you to stay but...if your heart wasn't in it...you really should have flat
out told me no.
>
> Don't blame your problems on me, Ian, or anyone but yourself.
>
> And incidentally, IWWC is on hiatus, but it's not because people quit
> (unlike GPW). It's because I have a job, a wife, a daughter...
> something called "responsibilities", which means I don't get to sit in
> front of a computer all day and all night. I have things in my life
> more important than some fantasy world. Someday, you might understand
> that.
-I understand that completely. I heard IWWC was having problems and I
simply asked how things were going. You might think I sound like an ass for
saying that but...well..that's your opinion.
>
> > Anyway...when a certain
> core
> > group of handlers control all the angles...it sucks all the fun out of
> > things. If E-Wrestling wants to revive itself...it has to make a
> decision:
> > It has to decide if they want the handlers running the angles or if
> they
> > want the booker and the fed-head running things, considering it is his
> job.
> > I take the second choice because it is the more realistic approach.
> Most
> > fed-heads I've seen have very few creative ideas and then, when the
> ones who
> > do put creative ideas out on the table...the handlers bitch because
> they
> > don't have any control over their characters.
> >
>
> And this is why people didn't have fun. This isn't "real" wrestling.
> You're not Vince McMahon. The handlers aren't getting paid to do this
> stuff, and that's the difference. We do this by choice, and therefore
> expect some control over our characters. You wonder why people weren't
> having any fun, David? It had nothing to do with your creativeness...
> it had to do with the fact that they didn't get the same chance.
-Did I ever tell people they couldn't come up with ideas? No. When they
did...I would present them my take on things and I would try my best to work
with them to form a compromise based on both proposals. The handlers that
succeeded in this were the ones who were willing to confront me and present
their ideas. You also said you do this by choice...I did this by choice as
well. I gave up doing a lot of other stuff to run GPW and I wasn't about to
let the inmates run the asylum.
>
> The fact is, you ran GPW for one person... David Smith. If that's how
> you want to run a league, then great. If you want to book someone who
> was _clearly_ out-RP'ed to win in the sole name of "heat", that's your
> choice. But you, my friend, must learn to accept the outcome.
-You are damn right I ran GPW for myself. When SCW and WWW became GPW, I
didn't think for one moment that I would be running that league for anyone
else. It was my chance to do something that I enjoyed doing and I wasn't
going to let anyone stand in my way. As for roleplaying...well...that's
just me. I wasn't the best roleplayer in e-wrestling so I can relate to the
people who were actually trying their hardest yet still couldn't reach the
"top". It was my way of giving them a chance. I guess I was wrong for
doing that.
>
> John
> * ran IWWC and proud of it
David
*Damn proud of running GPW and the enemies I made in the process.
NaturalTG
What would a good, old-fashioned G-P-Dub flame war be without yours truly?
That's what I thought...
I got my start on AOL feds, and the GPW was my first "RSPWF" fed, if it's not a
stretch to call it that. For a few months, I had a great time there, but I
guess there's a saying that rings true: "Ignorance is bliss." I didn't know the
quality of the other feds that were out there, and content to live in my own
little world, I didn't care.
Credit John with opening up my eyes. And no offense to you or anything, Dave,
but the IWWC just fucking blows the GPW out of the water. It's not even on a
level that's worthy of comparison.
In the spirit of fairness, the GPW was always on time. It was the fed's biggest
plus. I mean, seriously, who else has never put out a late card? But on the
flipside, many of the cards just sucked. It wasn't for lack of effort or
anything, because the effort was there. They just sucked.
The GPW's schedule was one that led to burnout and being overworked, for cards
that sacrified quality for timeliness... and even then, there was no guarantee
that you would win... so why bother sometimes? And in no way am I bitter about
putting over Chris Page. ;-)
But on the real, Dave, the GPW was what it was. It wasn't anything special. The
talent roster sucked my white ass. Without guys like John, Ian, and myself on
that roster, you've got a bunch of retarded fuckwits making up your lower and
upper mid-card.
There's really no comparison. As Tommy Gunn in the GPW, despite your insistence
on everyone paying his "dues", I managed to win the World Title after three
months, and hold on to it for four. In the EMWC, a fed that you always claimed
superiority to, I'm using the same character--Gunn--under a different
name--Ethan Andrews--and I'm currently struggling to make a name for myself in
the Juniors division. It's like if you were Calista Flockhart, Dave, and you
tried to claim that your tits are bigger than Anna Nicole Smith's. You may
convince yourself, but no fucking way anyone else is gonna believe you (how
little I underestimate the UEW crowd)...
So... I don't want to get into any specifics, and I'm trying hard not to be a
jackass, I just think it's my responsibility to nut a little reality juice in
your direction. If the taste is a little bitter, then, uh, my bad bro.
JUST PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH!
"Every drip-drop, don't you waste it."
Word.
LoPic
- I have a belly-button
jamh...@my-deja.com
> But on the real, Dave, the GPW was what it was. It wasn't anything
special. The
> talent roster sucked my white ass. Without guys like John, Ian, and
myself on
> that roster, you've got a bunch of retarded fuckwits making up your
lower and
> upper mid-card.
Damn, egotistical are we?
Hate to burst your bubble there G-Flubber, but it takes more than one
guy to make a fed. And....hmmmmm, before you go knocking someone elses
skill at running a fed, how bout you try it yourself?
AND NO, reforming the CCW, a fed inwhich Paul Pratt did _VIRTUALLY_ the
same thing you claim Dave did [you know, job people out for no reason,
write for characters, take all the creative control away from the
handler......oh, the list goes on and on]...doesn't count.
Hmmmmm, trying to think of something creative to end this message off
on, but hell, I now see I need the help of the EMWC writing staff to
maybe help me think of something original....
OH.
Brainfart.
James
-NOT a GPW mark....nor was affiliated with GPW in anyway....just felt
like sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong, cause I'm now a true
RSPWF'er
In article <20000927190808...@ng-mf1.aol.com>,
--
James Hall
President of IWC
Jamh...@yahoo.com
-We FINALLY have openings!!!!!
corino...@my-deja.com
> First, I want to thank John for responding to this because there is
nothing
> a like a heated debate on this newsgroup to get the juices running.
>
Hehehe... true dat. And, never being involved in one of these
"flame-fests" before, it's actually kinda fun.
> -You're damn right I constantly promoted GPW as being better than the
rest.
> What fedhead would admit to running a "second" rate promotion? None
that
> are smart. I could care less about any of the other federations when
I do
> things like that...it's all part of an image that everyone seems to
play
> right into.
>
Maybe so, but once you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk. If you
don't, your reputation is worse than if you admitted where you were in
the first place. I know in your eyes, GPW was a great promotion. And
don't get me wrong, it had some very positive aspects. On-time cards,
generally a high level of participation from the handlers in the volume
of RP's. But come on... to claim it was better than EMWC, LWC, or UWF?
Anyone who's been around this game for any length of time would see
through that propoganda.
> I hate to break it to you John...but at least those people gave me an
honest
> reason and confronted me when they had problems in the league. If you
> didn't like the way things going...you knew my email adress and you
knew my
> AOL Instant Messanger nickname. Granted, you did give me a reason and
I
> still have it on my computer...however...the fact that half of the
people
> didn't even tell me what they really thought is the reason they get
zero
> respect from me.
> >
Funny you should say that, Dave, considering this post on the NG was the
first I'd ever heard from you about my "part" in the death of GPW.
Why should I tell you what I didn't like about GPW? Would you have
changed anything? I highly doubt it. Remember the review the fed got
from that site, E-fed-erali or whatever it was? The reviewer pointed
out the exact things that needed improvement, probably the same things
you'd been hearing all along. Did you make the changes? No.
So why should I have told you what I didn't like? What would that have
accomplished, other than having me come across as a whining handler?
GPW was _your_ show, you already admitted that. I chose to leave well
enough alone.
> -You're damn right I rant the show and I do not deny that. It's
strange
> that people always harped on me for this but they failed to realize
they
> could develop their characters more in the roleplays while I came up
with
> the angles to fuel them with. I make no apologies about having
control in
> GPW because, frankly, that is what I was put there to do...to make the
> league work and that, for me, resulted in running the storylines.
> >
And if that's what you wanted, that's perfectly fine. But by the same
token, you couldn't expect all the handlers - especially the better and
more creative ones - to play by those rules. Some of us liked to have a
bit more control over the direction of our characters than others. And
in GPW, we didn't always get that opportunity.
Sure, we could develop our characters, but what if the angle/direction
wasn't something we wanted to do? Makes it a lot more difficult to stay
motivated, or to put out your best work.
>
> You can believe whatever you want as well. I admit I should have
never
> tried to get Ian back when he left the first time. I would have had a
much
> better time doing Sean Willey vs. Tommy Gunn in the main event at
Blazing
> Glory because I know they both would have roleplayed. I know I
convinced
> you to stay but...if your heart wasn't in it...you really should have
flat
> out told me no.
> >
Yeah, probably so.
> -I understand that completely. I heard IWWC was having problems and I
> simply asked how things were going. You might think I sound like an
ass for
> saying that but...well..that's your opinion.
> >
Oh, please. You flame me and Ian both for "getting in the ears" of the
other handlers, and then directly follow that with "how's IWWC, John?
How's the job at the paper, Ian?" Stop blowing smoke, David, you're not
fooling anyone.
> -Did I ever tell people they couldn't come up with ideas? No. When
they
> did...I would present them my take on things and I would try my best
to work
> with them to form a compromise based on both proposals. The handlers
that
> succeeded in this were the ones who were willing to confront me and
present
> their ideas. You also said you do this by choice...I did this by
choice as
> well.
No, you didn't. But how many of the handlers' ideas did you reject?
Again, if that's how you wanted GPW to be, that's fine. But like I
said, a lot of people aren't very interested in handling is that kind of
environment.
> I gave up doing a lot of other stuff to run GPW and I wasn't
> about to
> let the inmates run the asylum.
> >
Now see, this really gives us a good insight as to your attitude toward
the handlers.
> -You are damn right I ran GPW for myself. When SCW and WWW became
GPW, I
> didn't think for one moment that I would be running that league for
anyone
> else. It was my chance to do something that I enjoyed doing and I
wasn't
> going to let anyone stand in my way. As for
roleplaying...well...that's
> just me. I wasn't the best roleplayer in e-wrestling so I can relate
to the
> people who were actually trying their hardest yet still couldn't reach
the
> "top". It was my way of giving them a chance. I guess I was wrong
for
> doing that.
> >
I understand the concept of wanting to give them a chance. But doing it
at the expense of your top talent only leads to alienation of your best
guys. And, as a result, they leave.
Same thing goes for who the league is there for. If it's only there for
your enjoyment, you lose focus on the handlers, and whether or not
they're enjoying it. With IWWC, my goal was to make sure the handlers
enjoyed it. Hell, I let the guys book their own angles. In fact, some
of the best angles/feuds came from the handlers working together and
coming up with their own ideas. Why? It got them more involved. It's
a simple concept called "empowerment".
> David
> *Damn proud of running GPW and the enemies I made in the process.
> >
And for all the flaming we've done so far, you should be proud of
running GPW. Regardless of my opinion, you put a lot of time and effort
into it. Never once did you have a late card, which is pretty
impressive in itself. I don't think you have anything to be ashamed of
with your efforts with GPW, David.
The Iceman
Really...I just wanted to get the skeletons out of the closet before I hit a
nice little retirement from "active" e-wrestling. I don't have any real
hard feelings anymore considering I can look past things. I just wanted to
see if I had that ever present "bitch" vibe that I made so famous in this
crazy ass game. Best of luck to you two and all of the people involved in
e-wrestling...and hopefully you can survive.
P.S.-Is this the end of me? I don't think so ;)
NaturalTG
>guy to make a fed. And....hmmmmm, before you go knocking someone elses
>skill at running a fed, how bout you try it yourself?
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
>AND NO, reforming the CCW, a fed inwhich Paul Pratt did _VIRTUALLY_ the
>same thing you claim Dave did [you know, job people out for no reason,
>write for characters, take all the creative control away from the
>handler......oh, the list goes on and on]...doesn't count.
See, here, you've just tipped your hat. Paul didn't make all the booking
decisions in the CCW, though he was in charge. He also ran the exact opposite
type of fed that you just described--the CCW was the very epitome of creative
control--if and when the shows ever came out on time. ;-)
And I _am_ going to reopen the CCW in a couple of months. I invite everyone,
even your own cock-sucking self, to check it out. We won't be for everyone.
Small roster, not the deepest talent, but hey, the handlers are going to enjoy
themselves. And that's what it's all about.
So, basically, bro, what I'm saying to you is at least know what you're talking
about before you open your mouth--unless you're trying to suck me off. Ya
heard?
>Brainfart.
Fuckwit.
LoPic
jamh...@my-deja.com
lop...@aol.com (NaturalTG) wrote:
> >AND NO, reforming the CCW, a fed inwhich Paul Pratt did _VIRTUALLY_
the
> >same thing you claim Dave did [you know, job people out for no
reason,
> >write for characters, take all the creative control away from the
> >handler......oh, the list goes on and on]...doesn't count.
>
booking
> decisions in the CCW, though he was in charge. He also ran the exact
opposite
> type of fed that you just described--the CCW was the very epitome of
creative
> control--if and when the shows ever came out on time. ;-)
Hmmmm, we must be thinking of a different Paul Pratt and a different
CCW. The one with Punisher? Justin Sakar? Kevin and Caine Tainer? PEP?
Dazz? If so....you're insane to think it was the epitome of creative
control. Nothing against Paul or CCW at all....cause it _WAS_ a great
fed, but you attack GPW for being the same damn thing CCW was. And
that's, one man's vision, that controls every aspect of the fed. Paul
ran CCW the same exact way Dave ran GPW.
>
> And I _am_ going to reopen the CCW in a couple of months. I invite
everyone,
> even your own cock-sucking self, to check it out. We won't be for
everyone.
> Small roster, not the deepest talent, but hey, the handlers are going
to enjoy
> themselves. And that's what it's all about.
Cock sucking self? Hmmmmmm, still going through puberty are we? Where
are all the people who can debate over something without resorting to
petty name calling and flaming? As far as myself joining the CCW,
depends on whether or not you're still gonna use that lame ass open rp
format. Ya know, I don't like 1,000 rp's in my mailbox on a daily basis
from a bunch of "fuckwits" as you call them. Use a packet system and
then maybe we'll talk.
>
> So, basically, bro, what I'm saying to you is at least know what
you're talking
> about before you open your mouth--unless you're trying to suck me
off. Ya
> heard?
I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know Paul. I know CCW. I know
how he ran things. Maybe you just didn't see it cause you and Dazz were
the "gods" of that fed.
>
> >Brainfart.
>
> Fuckwit.
Please....please, you're hurting me over here!!!!
>
> LoPic
NaturalTG
>President of IWC
Oh, sheeit, now I realize who I'm flaming. You're the jackass that ran the HWF,
and got all pissy when Paul quit? Word. That's kind of funny, now that I think
about it some more, 'cause if we're talking about tragic feds, that one was off
the charts. It wasn't necessarily the way things were run, but the quality.
Almost impossible to discern one announcer from the next until the chick said
something like "It's a TLC thing" or "No scrubs."
SEE! I remember your ass now, bro.
But I'm a stand by my statements, which certainly have a lot more validity
coming from someone who was in both the CCW and the GPW, than coming from
someone who wasn't in either of them.
PEP was the man. His handlers were happy, and most of all, extremely loyal to
him. Which is why I'm reopening the fed in the first place. The GPW, on the
other hand, was many things. Dave had his own agenda, and was resented by a lot
of his players for it. That's the difference.
As for who's vision it is, isn't it always the fed head's vision? The
difference is in how flexible they are in dealing with their players--and
Paul's the most flexible of anyone that I've ever handled under, with the
possible exception of John in the IWWC. They allow the handlers to think for
themselves.
As for how I'm running the CCW, it's going to be flash packets. I'm basing
things on what I've seen in the IWWC and LWC, though the quality will surely
pale in comparison to those two... Apply if you want to, bro, or continue to
put your foot in your mouth. You're still a fuckwit, but it ain't nothing
personal on this front.
And Dave, same goes for you. I'm blunt about my opinions, but John's right.
You've got nothing to be ashamed about for running GPW the way you did. I'm
just gonna let you know how I feel.
LoPic
- Why ya blockin' us, baller blockin' us?
Dan Stevens
Stevens and I hate each other) I'd turn it down. >>
I don't think a AOL sim fed President would even invite you to join his league.
You wanted to dump sacks of batteries on my character, and burn him with acid
Ray. You just don't get it eh?
-Dan
"Bling Bling"
Brendan Horton
>CCW. The one with Punisher? Justin Sakar? Kevin and Caine Tainer? PEP?
>Dazz?
That'd be the one. And let's not forget Brendan Blade essa.
>you attack GPW for being the same damn thing CCW was. And
>that's, one man's vision, that controls every aspect of the fed. Paul
>ran CCW the same exact way Dave ran GPW.
Just one question. Do you have Down Syndrome? Ok, I was in CCW for it's
entire tenure and not once, did Paul _tell_ me what my character was going to
do. He offered me ideas, some of which I gave the green light, some of which I
vetod. Nothing against Dave, but in the month of so I was in GPW, I'd mail him
with ideas for my character and get a response to the extent of, "I'm working
on ideas". So, simply put, CCW was, and will be again, the anti-GPW.
>I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know Paul. I know CCW. I know
>how he ran things. Maybe you just didn't see it cause you and Dazz were
>the "gods" of that fed.
Once again, you are wrong. My estimate would be that you were on the CCW
mailer for, oh, a month? Maybe less? Brendan Blade is, was, and forever shall
be CCW. ;-)
>Please....please, you're hurting me over here!!!!
You really _are_ hurting me with your inane, feeble statements. Shut up now.
>--
>James Hall
- Brendan Horton
CCW Born . . . CCW Bred . . . . alright, I'm done.
Tenorplayer16
Jessica Falcon
President of Sundevil Wrestling Promotion
tenorp...@aol.com
MY TOP QUOTES:
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Right?
CubBumDuff: Nope.. jailbait :)
- Duff in a conversation on 9/20/00
<SWPPrez> They need naked men of wrestling pictures! :)
<MrSaturdayNight> heh
<MrSaturdayNight> i was about to run away but then i remembered you're a girl
- Ian Preston on IRC on 9/23/00
<RonnieD> that'd rule if jesus smoked
<RonnieD> he'd be all like
<RonnieD> "hey man
<RonnieD> i can turn this water
<RonnieD> into a big fucking keg!"
- RonnieD being high on IRC on 9/24/00
Blottieb: I'm also straight-edge, which scares off 3/4s of the female
population.
Blottieb: Hell, 3/4s of the population in general.
- Blottie in a conversation on 9/25/00
<Al_Koholic> RJ, this isn't retirement.
<Al_Koholic> Its me quitting.
- Higor on IRC on 9/27/00
<EFU_CEO> I was thinking of applying to DWF...then remembered that I'd have to
RP
-Some guy on IRC on 9/28/00
Dan Stevens
He wanted to burn me with acid and drop numerous sacks of batteries on me. He
also defends monkeyan after he dissed all religions.
Yes.
-Dan
"Bling Bling"
NaturalTG
I didn't realize that deep throating my dick could be so painful.
LoPic
-hwut hwut hwut
jamh...@yahoo.com
Sheesh....and we were wondering why e-wrestling was on it's downfall?
Look at the creative minds coming into it.
As for the statements about Paul....yes, I did get kinda chipper with
him. I admit that, but I never have nor will hold any ill feelings
towards him, because what was said, was said out of emotion. Reason
being, at the time he attacked me for the "downfall of HWF, and this
and that...and that I wasn't producing a good product anymore" [as I
had put HWF on the back burner for a month or so and left the e-
wrestling loop] my father had just been diagnosed with cancer. I tried
to apologize to him shortly after the heated words, but, he'd have none
of it. I admit, what was said was out of line....but you know, this is
fantasy, and if real life has me in the shitter like it did at the
time, I don't need to explain my actions. I don't know Paul, so, he was
an easy target to take out my frustrations on, since I'd never toss
back a cold one with him or have to beg for forgiveness. As for me
being pissy about anything....well, it certainly wasn't his leaving.
Infact, he wasn't leaving until I acted the way I did.
I apologized for my actions, they were wrong. Oh well, live and learn,
too bad he can't be forgiving.....nor could understand what I was going
through at the time.
As for attacking HWF's quality, that's fine. Hey, to each their own. If
you thought it sucked...so be it. There are others who'd disagree with
you....especially since it's grown into a rather "elite" fed. I had to
be doing something right for it to flourish the way it did in such a
short span of time eh?
You gotta think, I started HWF from the ground up...I didn't have the
so called connections a Chris Blue, John Armstrong etc... had, I built
my fed on hard work, great angles, and great cards alone. IWC may be a
great fed to some...a joke to others. The key thing is, we have _FUN_
and we compete.
BTW, check out the RSPWF awards and find out where this so
called "sucky HWF" fed wound up....it placed with the "greatest" feds
in the world in your opinion...however, I don't base much merit in a
poll. Simply because, until you survey everyone who does this....you'll
never get an accurate opinion...however, I do find it rather flattering
that people OUTSIDE of IWC find our stuff to be good. Cause god knows
my handlers won't vote in anything RSPWF....alot of em hate it, or
can't be forced to fill out a poll if you bribed them with free beer.
As for Da Punisher's comments.....I happened to be on the feds mailing
list for about 9 months. Long enough to know, it A) had a card every
month B) had a handful of "ok" rp'ers and C) Had such a screwy
direction on where angles headed...it was almost WCW-esque with swerve
after swerve.
As for you talking about HWF.....I know for a fact you were never on
the mailing list.....so, I take it, you're going on heresay alone.
If you still contact Paul from time to time....tell him I'm sorry for
the way I acted, but, I was going through a rough time...and e-feds and
online friends weren't exactly my #1 priority. Hopefully, he can be a
forgiving guy.
--
James Hall
President of IWC
Alderran01
>so called connections a Chris Blue, John Armstrong etc... had, I built
>my fed on hard work, great angles, and great cards alone.
Uh oh...now I know I just didn't read that.
Tell me I didn't read that
Someone please tell me he didn't say that shit.
[waits]
Yep, he did.
First off, I don't know who the hell you are or where the hell you come from
other than to note that you and Nick are having a pissing contest.
BUT...as a friend of mine so often says: Know shit before you talk shit.
And in this situation, it's obvious you don't know a god damn thing. I'll let
John speak for himself on this one...but you called me out...and that's a
mistake.
The EMWC was born in 1994 and ran by a guy named Adam Thompson. Adam's a hell
of a nice guy and a great handler...unfortunately, as a fed head...he was
lacking a bit. The cards were mostly simmed...very short...and the handlers
were pretty apathetic.
When he asked me to take it over in late '95, the roster was gone...I didn't
have a clue how to write a decent match, let alone how to run a fed. And the
only "connection" I had in e-wrestling was Adam.
But I worked at it...and I learned. I ran a fed full of character I'd created,
just to give the fed a chance to live. I RPd for 20 plus characters at a time,
just to give me the basis for a product that might improve. And slowly...it
did. I read cards from feds like WAR! and the IIWF...learning how to write an
effective match...learning how to book an angle in e-wrestling. I recruited
whenever I could...not by posting a billion "COME JOIN MY FED!" ads on RSPWF,
but by posting card samples...showing people how the writing had improved...and
often resorting to begging in recruitment letters.
The IIWF was the big cheese in those days...but I knew that with the right
roster and a little hard work, we could be better. People were pointing out
flaws in the IIWF...flaws I attempted to avoid. Adam rejoined the fed as a
handler. I wrote so many recruitment letters...I became an expert at
them...what to say...how to say it...how to tempt the handlers. And finally,
it began to work.
By December 1997...two LONG years after I'd taken over a fed that most would
have given up on after two months...there was respect growing for EMWC. There
were "names" like Tony Starks, Joe Reed, Creed, Dirt Dog Unique Allah...guys
who would later become EMWC legends like Kevin Slater, Curtis Hansen, and
Gabriel Whitecross...and on the night of No Imitations Accepted 1997, the EMWC
presented the moment that made e-w sit up and take notice. A young EMWCer,
Bobby Taylor...assaulted by J.W Hardin...Brody Thunder...Tiger Claw...Casey
James...Otto Verhoeven...Subway Psycho...and Dan Kauffman...all in one match.
No one had ever done that before, and to be honest...I don't think anyone has
done anything near that since. It's one of my favorite moments in EMWC
history...and one that cemented us in the minds of e-w readers.
So, before you run your mouth off about how I used my "connections" to make
EMWC worth a damn...do a little research...find out how hard I've busted my
ass...find out how hard guys like Adam Thompson, Martin Price, Kevin Sheppard,
Jim Jividen, Steve Owens, Mat Findlay, Scott Blair, Chris O'Brien, Ronnie
Deschenes, Mike Sonby, and more handlers than I can ever hope to thank busted
their ass.
We worked to make EMWC what it is...and that's the best damn fed I could ever
hope to run or be a part of.
So...in other words...take your smug little comments and shove them directly up
your ass.
Have a nice day.
Chris
EMWC Prez
Kaiser Soze
the history of EMWC, in which no one really cared.
The real question is, how many cheeseburgers did Blue eat while typing
this up?
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<Birm> You are a better man than I.
<EMWCPrez> We already knew that.
<Birm> Yes, but I mean other than the ability to
overfill a Shaq jersey catergories.
<Birm> It's not my fault you're fat. :)
<EMWCPrez> Cool
<EMWCPrez> Well, maybe you'll have more time to
write for NEW now.
<EMWCPrez> Cause like...
<EMWCPrez> You're fired.
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edward...@my-deja.com
I don't do this very often. I don't do it at
all, in fact. But since the fed I run was
brought up earlier in the thread by David Smith,
I felt that posting a reply was in order.
In one of his whiny posts, Smith refers to the
EMWC, IWWC, LWC, UWF, etc. as "big superfeds"
that are "elitists" and "stealing talent" from
smaller feds and, as such, ruining e-wrestling.
First off, I'm not going to bring up the other
feds. I don't agree that EMWC, IWWC, or UWF have
done anything to ruin e-wrestling, at least not
as far as stealing talent from other feds goes.
I'm going to talk about the LWC.
How the LWC can be called a "big superfed" is
perplexing to me. It's been around for a while
and has a reasonable following (although the
mailing list is less than fifty members), but I
don't think that, in any way, makes it a "big
superfed." The roster consists of about sixteen
singles wrestlers and six tag-teams, two of which
are made up of singles wrestlers. Several of the
handlers aren't in any other e-feds, and those
that are/were didn't come from "smaller" feds. I
haven't actively recruited anyone from a smaller
fed in a while... most of the guys on the roster
are people I knew from feds I used to be in or
people (not the characters, in most cases) I know
from feds I'm currently in, like EMWC, IWWC, and
GLCW.
Then there's the elitist thing. I wouldn't say
I'm an elitist, exactly. I do have a pretty high
standard for the characters I allow into my fed,
but I don't discriminate against characters
without seeing an app from them. By and large, I
don't receive a lot of apps from people I don't
know, so it doesn't really come up. However,
what's wrong with being discriminatory with which
kind of characters/how good of roleplayers you
let in, in the first place?
One of the main things that's "ruining" e-
wrestling is bitterness towards and childlike
whining about the feds that are on top. Keep
track of your own affairs rather than accusing
other feds of undermining you and stealing your
talent.
Ryan Powell
edward...@my-deja.com
I think Smith included the "superfeds calling
themselves the best" along with the "elitist"
bit, too. This is just classic, completely
unfounded mud-slinging. If you've ever talked to
me for any length of time in a serious context,
which David Smith never has, you know that I'm
the last person to ever call LWC "the best." In
fact, I'm usually one of the first people to
point out its shortcomings, of which it has
many. I do this because I don't really care
how it compares with other feds. I run the LWC
the way I do because it's fun for me, even
despite some flaws, and it's fun for the
handlers. If people not associated with the fed
think it's a piece of crap, that's fine.
If people not associated with the fed think it's
awesome, even better. Either way, it doesn't
bother me. I just don't like people who have
never read a card from the fed categorizing it,
like David Smith did.
One of the main things that's "ruining" e-
wrestling is bitterness towards and childlike
whining about the feds that are on top. Keep
track of your own affairs rather than accusing
other feds of undermining you and stealing
your talent.
Ryan Powell
NaturalTG
>other than to note that you and Nick are having a pissing contest.
I am the Mastah~! of all bodily functions.
I've got all the respect in the world for what Chris has done with the EMWC...
and that little post reminded me of something else... it was longer than any RP
I had written in the past two weeks.
God damn it.
LoPic
- Getting to work.