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Fletcha

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Feb 18, 2003, 1:19:55 AM2/18/03
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South Pacific Wrestling's latest card:

http://www.geocities.com/fletchanz/RAV150203.txt


We still have a few roster openings (we prefer new characters or
unestablished ones). You can find the application form at:

http://www.geocities.com/fletchanz/Application.txt

and the FAQ at:

http://www.geocities.com/fletchanz/FAQ.txt

Fletcha
SPW head honcho
- Still wondering where the hell Pat Calnan's application is. Damn
unreliable Canucks.

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 18, 2003, 9:57:15 AM2/18/03
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>
> Fletcha
> SPW head honcho
> - Still wondering where the hell Pat Calnan's application is. Damn
> unreliable Canucks.

What about unreliable Kiwis who don't even ANSWER the damn application
forms when it's actually been sent?


Signed: Ninja

- Had the same problem with Walls. Unreliable Canucks indeed...

Justin Russell

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Feb 18, 2003, 2:39:20 PM2/18/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03021...@posting.google.com>...

> >
> > Fletcha
> > SPW head honcho
> > - Still wondering where the hell Pat Calnan's application is. Damn
> > unreliable Canucks.
>
> What about unreliable Kiwis who don't even ANSWER the damn application
> forms when it's actually been sent?

It's not in the grand rules of e-wrestling that if you apply
somewhere, they have to respond.

Justin
- Or something like that.
- P*WIN!

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 18, 2003, 8:15:28 PM2/18/03
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> It's not in the grand rules of e-wrestling that if you apply
> somewhere, they have to respond.
>
> Justin
> - Or something like that.
> - P*WIN!

Well it's in the grand rule of decency- as in, they send you a letter,
you answer it.

Not to mention it's a smite hypocritical to hark on someone else's
lack of application, when they have one but they won't answer it.


Ninja

- A decent human being, just expects... to be answered.

Mat Findlay

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Feb 18, 2003, 9:02:55 PM2/18/03
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On 18 Feb 2003 17:15:28 -0800, hisnei...@hotmail.com
(ChrisTheNinja) wrote:

>> It's not in the grand rules of e-wrestling that if you apply
>> somewhere, they have to respond.
>>
>> Justin
>> - Or something like that.
>> - P*WIN!
>
>Well it's in the grand rule of decency- as in, they send you a letter,
>you answer it.

And it's in the grand rule of reality that you're not owed a goddamn
thing. Some people go their whole lives never understanding this one,
and that's just sad.

Mat Findlay
"Morality: The last bastion of a coward"
- Col. Ives.

Nick Demola

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Feb 19, 2003, 4:41:04 AM2/19/03
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> And it's in the grand rule of reality that you're not owed a goddamn
> thing. Some people go their whole lives never understanding this one,
> and that's just sad.

Mat,

This guy's clueless.

Trust me.


ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 19, 2003, 9:38:11 AM2/19/03
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> And it's in the grand rule of reality that you're not owed a goddamn
> thing. Some people go their whole lives never understanding this one,
> and that's just sad.
>
> Mat Findlay
> "Morality: The last bastion of a coward"
> - Col. Ives.

No, excuse me, but fuck that. People send you an intelligent letter,
you answer it. If you ignore people, don't go around asking help from
others- as in the case with the machinery that is e-wrestling. I sent
Fletcher a well thought-out letter, complete and all, and the fucker
ignores it. It's not that I can't handle rejection: I recently sent an
application to many e-feds, and many a fed-head does not agree with my
characters in-ring stuff. They answer me that in an e-mail, there is
an open channel and that satisfies me. I like to believe that in this
RSPWF community, we are all civil human beings and that there is a way
that we can talk out our differences, not just put our hands to our
ears and scream LA LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING.

And fuck, if I happen upon scumbags like that- There's always the
RSPWF google group to out the bastards. Take action against those that
piss you off the most. Flamewars? If it comes to that, I'm game.


Signed: Chris. Call him Ninja so he can be differenced from all the
other Chris's

- And just to show that I am serious, if the reason that I never
received an answer was because he sent it and I never received it, or
I sent something and he never received it; or something similarly
silly- Hey! I'll be a man and take back everything I said and formally
apologise. Sorry for the whole mix-up.

Those Darn Keenings

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Feb 19, 2003, 11:57:35 AM2/19/03
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Nick Demola wrote...
>
> This guy's clueless.

Me too! Me too!!

Oh... wait... this was about me not sending an app to Fletcha-san, right?

That Other Majorly Clueless Patrick
*should probably send an e-mail directly to Fletch, huh?*

Aesop Rock

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Feb 19, 2003, 11:55:41 AM2/19/03
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For a guy who claims "it's not that [he] can't handle rejection," you seem
to be abstractly bent out of shape about it.

jimmay
-calm the fuck down, ninja.

"ChrisTheNinja" <hisnei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Destroy Man

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Feb 19, 2003, 12:14:22 PM2/19/03
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On 19 Feb 2003 06:38:11 -0800, hisnei...@hotmail.com
(ChrisTheNinja) wrote:

No offense, but it happens. Sometimes someone gets swamped
enough that they just can't respond to you. This just might be
one of those cases.

Don't turn into Adam Mowery on us, okay?


Tyran Ault

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Feb 19, 2003, 2:23:45 PM2/19/03
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You have to understand that most fedheads receive ten to twenty apps
every couple days. Add in letters and complaints from every handler in
the fed. Then add letters from guys who are not in the fed... it all
adds up to way too much to respond to.

Most fedheads don't have the time to reply to every single letter,
simply because of time itself. If he's simply ignoring you, then hey,
he has the right to do that too. Like Mat said, there is no rule
saying he has to.

- Tyran Ault

Big Mike G-Money

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Feb 19, 2003, 4:35:18 PM2/19/03
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First off, Fletch is as much a class act as you can get in
e-wrestling, period. How do I know? I've was in RCW about a year
before the whore closed it.. and am in SPW now.. and he does nothing
but give people a fair shake.. or exactly what they deserve pending on
the situation.

He didn't respond to your app/e-mail/whatever? So what? Life goes on
and so should you. There are no "unwritten laws" in e-wrestling..
because if there were.. 99% of the handlers would be in "e-w jail" for
abusing the laws. Over the years, I've applied to PLENTY of feds that
didn't respond to my e-mail or app.. it's just a part of e-wrestling.
I run a fed myself.. and between putting out shows.. getting my
handlers pumped for angles.. making sure everything works right.. etc
etc etc etc etc fuckin' etc.. I think the last thing I'm gonna worry
about is whether I returned an e-mail to an applicant.

Here, let us put it this way. When you go apply for a job.. you get
an interview or whatever.. and they tell you "We'll let you know if
you got the job." How many times do they call you to tell you you
didn't get the job? 1/10 tops. Same here.

G-Money
-Tired and ranting.. but for a good cause. Fletch is a great guy and
killer fedhead.

Andy Doran

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Feb 19, 2003, 4:53:10 PM2/19/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03021...@posting.google.com>...

Hey dude, I see your point here and I feel for you. Back in the glory
days of RCW (n. all ten of them) I pretended to be Vice President and
responded to all character inquiries. If they got in, I'd e-mail them
and say congratulations, you're in. If they didn't, I'd send them
something like this:

"It was the opinion of both Fletch and I that your character sucked.
What we mean is, I was far too sober to even think about letting you
into RCW. But, thanks for applying.

Sincerely, Andy"

So allow me:

It was Fletch's opinion that your character sucked ass. What he means
is, he is far too sober to even think of letting you into SPW. But
thanks for applying.

Sincerely, Andy.

I hope I helped in some small way.


Andy
* Credits Courtney Cox Arquette for inspiration.

Mat Findlay

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Feb 19, 2003, 5:14:02 PM2/19/03
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On 19 Feb 2003 06:38:11 -0800, hisnei...@hotmail.com
(ChrisTheNinja) wrote:

>> And it's in the grand rule of reality that you're not owed a goddamn
>> thing. Some people go their whole lives never understanding this one,
>> and that's just sad.
>>
>> Mat Findlay
>> "Morality: The last bastion of a coward"
>> - Col. Ives.
>
>No, excuse me, but fuck that. People send you an intelligent letter,
>you answer it.

Like I said... Sad. So very, very sad.

Justin Russell

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Feb 19, 2003, 6:35:14 PM2/19/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03021...@posting.google.com>...
> > It's not in the grand rules of e-wrestling that if you apply
> > somewhere, they have to respond.
> >
> > Justin
> > - Or something like that.
> > - P*WIN!
>
> Well it's in the grand rule of decency- as in, they send you a letter,
> you answer it.

Decency doesn't exist in today's society.



> Not to mention it's a smite hypocritical to hark on someone else's
> lack of application, when they have one but they won't answer it.

Boo hoo. Life's unfair, kid. Get over it... and get over yourself,
for that matter.

Justin
- P*WIN!
- And while I'm at it... BATTLE*DREAM!

Luis "Terminator" Garavello

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Feb 19, 2003, 10:43:21 PM2/19/03
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Before you guys kill each other a question...

Anyone can prove that Fletch really got the app? He may have never
received or accidentaly deleted it...

--
Luis, the man who turned 27 today. Ykes!

"Justin Russell" <bdj...@juno.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:d46c788e.03021...@posting.google.com...

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:11:40 PM2/20/03
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This response is posted under Mat's, but it pretty much concerns
everyone who took the time in responding. You'll have understood that
the topic is no longer about e-wrestling, but simply about basic rules
of conduit and acknowledging your fellow man. That and answering the
goddamn mail.


For example, To Aesop: there is a difference between rejection and
ignoring someone else, but I bet you knew that already. Do I explain
to you what that difference is or do I take a pass? You seem like a
grown up, so I'll limit myself and say that telling somebody why he
sucks is one thing, but just avoiding conversation (through lack or
acknowledgment, or simply by a blow-off statement meant to cut
discourse, (see Andy)) is another. Unless these guys can tell me why
they don't have to answer me, then I'm not going to let them ignore
me.

To Mike G-Money, I'll explain the concept of the follow-up call in the
process of job application. Or maybe not, because I'm starting to
wonder who's being honest and who's humoring me. Come on man, you just
have to pick up the phone and talk to a guy in charge- don't be shy!
I'll cut this short and say that your analogy was a weak one, but that
it stressed the importance of the e-mail in this particular hobby of
ours as the only viable form of communication (considering how hard it
is to catch someone using chat programs). In other words: now more
then ever, answer your goddamn mail.

I'll also add that this is not an unwritten law of e-wrestling as much
as an unwritten law of decency, which may or may not be dead depending
on whom you believe- but I'll address the overly-cynical fools who
feel that they can judge the entirety of human nature later on. Oh,
okay, I'll throw in a snipet for Justin R.: Don't go making sweeping
judgements on human nature and then tell ME that I should get over
myself. YOU get over YOURself, and treat your fellow man with a bit of
decency when the situation will next arise while you're at it.

To Destroy Man and Tyran: I could understand that maybe Fletcher was
too swamped with letters to answer mine, but he went public asking for
handlers while he still had application forms in hand. Or rather:
since he has enough time to ask people for their help/involvement in
his project, he has enough time to go through his letters to see if
people haven't given it to him already (as in, his desire is valid
only as long as there is a need).

To Andy, I invite him to write to me concerning how my character sucks
(if he indeed is affiliated with the SPW). Considering all the novelty
and the deep storyline that the Neige character brings forth, I'm
always open to new suggestions as how to make Neige better. It's not
so long ago since the RSPWF Year end awards when I received the
dubious distinction of being the fifth worst rated character in EW. I
previously asked for feedback on the subject, looking at it as an
opportunity for self-improvement all while acknowledging how it could
very well be plenty of idiots who blasts a character for a cheap
laugh. The answers I received were varied between the suggestion that
I not take the awards as a barometer of skill at all, to "calm the
fuck down" to meaningless discourse. All in all, I received three
serious critiques, with two persons actually admitting that they liked
the character but they decided to joke on the award by throwing away
their votes. So you fancy yourself a judge of character? Hey, I'm
always open to new suggestions!

Because the word "sucks" is empty of meaning, and you are not twelve
years old. You want to be taken seriously or at least intelligently?
Then I'll be expecting something truly mind-blowing in my mailbox.

To Luis... well I can't prove anything, naturally but I did saw the
"message sent" confirmation; and like I said in my end-message blurb,
if it's because of something stupid like that, I would apologize.

To the too-wise giants who seem to know everything there is to know
about human nature, who have already passed judgement on Man and now
enjoy talking in the name of everyone else on the planet... get over
yourselves. You've read me very well and you know that I do not ask
for "life" to be fair, but for men to be fair. Because you can't argue
with life, but you can argue with men. Decency dies only if you let it
die, you defeatist saps. Don't disrespect people... and don't let
yourselves be disrespected, look around and you'll see that's how
grown men act. Who's sad now?

Ahhhh, feels good. Any of you study philosophy, we can always talk. My
personal favorite philosopher is Jean-Paul Sartre.


Signed: Chris

- A humanitarian and an optimist on life, and that's what pisses off
Mat Findlay the most.

- To Little Blue Super Jew: I thought you were the fed head of the
NEWF! Or at least a major player, a corporate shill or a major
match-contributor; something along the likes. What happened?

Nick Demola

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:58:03 PM2/20/03
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Philosophy debate? OOOOOOH! I'm in!

Here are some questions, in the true Socratic tradition.

I wonder...

... why people get told "you're wrong" by twenty others, and nobody takes
their side, and rather than admitting they're wrong or even just stepping
back and looking at their actions, they instead choose to attack each and
every person who disagreed with them.

... why a couple people can't just have fun in e-wrestling without doing OOC
attacks. Without bringing personal shit into it.

... why anyone would bring Christian into their fed after this.

... why Spikyjim had to die. Why God, why?

... why people don't realize that they can be ignored. And it's okay to
move on. To just deal with it and move on.

Let me do something here. Quoting:

>so I'll limit myself and say that telling somebody why he
>sucks is one thing, but just avoiding conversation (through lack or
>acknowledgment, or simply by a blow-off statement meant to cut
>discourse, (see Andy)) is another. Unless these guys can tell me why
>they don't have to answer me, then I'm not going to let them ignore
>me.

But, you see, they aren't playing YOUR game. You're asking to play theirs.
You're asking them to accept you into their game. And if they don't want
to, if they have no interest in doing it, they don't have to say shit to
you. They don't have to respond to you.

Know why? Because it's their game.

If you want things to be run the way you think they should... start your own
fed. Run things that way. That's fine.

But until then, don't go bitching when people don't bend the way they do
things to suit you.

You are the most self-centered person I've ever met in this game. And that,
my man, is saying something. You wrote me a mail saying how you expected me
to write to you telling you what was happening on the WILD OOC board. How
the hell do I know what's happening there? And where the hell do you get
off writing me shit telling me what to do? You started booking my
tournament for me. You cut on people OOC. What are you, 12 years old?
Jesus Christ.

But it's all good. I've come to expect this.

Up and down, every single person who has come in contact with you in
e-wrestling has nothing but bad things to say about you. Everyone.
Every... one. And I was probably the last person who defended you.
"Christian's a jerk," people said. I was like, "Nah. Neige is a cool
character <pun> when you get used to him. And Christian's not bad."

Just leave. Just... leave. For your own good. Because you don't fit here.
You don't understand what's trying to be done here. You have no concept of
the "game". You carry your life on through this game, and that's unhealthy.

Know how I can see that? Because I was just like you, kid. Just like you.
Ask anyone who ran into me in '99-'00. Read some of my old posts from back
then. Hell, go ask Zach Schooley the mails I wrote to him when Demola and
Curtis feuded in the IIWA. I was a loudmouth asshole who lived through this
game, because my real life was too miserable to deal with outside of the
game.

So I walked away from it. Got out in the real world. Went back to school.
And now... well, I'm still loud. And yeah, I can still be an asshole. But
this game is just a game, and I know that. And I'm having fun with it. And
I feel no need to write OOC comments in roleplays anymore. I don't demand
that others respect me. I realize that I have to earn respect here. That
people have better things to do than to respond to my e-mails.

You like Sartre? I admire him for what he did with the Nobel Prize in '64.
Go ahead and look it up on Yahoo or something, if you don't already know.

Some quotes which are at least somewhat appropo here...

"Hell is other people." - Sartre

"Only the guy who isn't rowing has time to rock the boat." - Sartre

"It disturbs me no more to find men base, unjust, or selfish than to see
apes mischievous, wolves savage, or the vulture ravenous." - Sartre

"Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of
weakness, and dies by chance." - Sartre

--
Nick Demola
"Just got a fucking aneurysm"

"Going to handle a character whose entire gimmick will be to question other
wrestlers and try to get to their own personal 'inner truths'."

"Just for the record, the former Most Self-Centered Person I've Ever Met
was... me. But even I can't compete with this."

OPERATOR OF:

The Supreme Wrestling Tournament
(aka - the Year Long Tournament)
http://swtewrestling.tripod.com

HANDLER OF:

Nick Demola (Empire Wrestling, KCW, S.W.T., UKCW)
- UKCW Heavyweight Champion

"Bad Seed" Devin Demola (ASW)
- 12 Day Tournament Champion

"Flash" Andrews (OWE, S.W.T.)
- OWE Television Champion

"Buzzsaw" Wesson (USCW, S.W.T.)

J.R. Locke, esq. (S.W.T.)

Jonah "Ice" Keller (SPW)

"The Sophist" Amos Zetetic (KAWF)

The Resurrection - Nick Demola & Devin Demola (WLW)

Smith and Wesson - Widowmaker Smith & Buzzsaw Wesson (NEO)


Mat Findlay

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:28:24 PM2/20/03
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On 20 Feb 2003 16:11:40 -0800, hisnei...@hotmail.com
(ChrisTheNinja) wrote:

>This response is posted under Mat's, but it pretty much concerns
>everyone who took the time in responding. You'll have understood that
>the topic is no longer about e-wrestling, but simply about basic rules
>of conduit and acknowledging your fellow man. That and answering the
>goddamn mail.
>
>
>For example, To Aesop: there is a difference between rejection and
>ignoring someone else, but I bet you knew that already. Do I explain
>to you what that difference is or do I take a pass? You seem like a
>grown up, so I'll limit myself and say that telling somebody why he
>sucks is one thing, but just avoiding conversation (through lack or
>acknowledgment, or simply by a blow-off statement meant to cut
>discourse, (see Andy)) is another. Unless these guys can tell me why
>they don't have to answer me, then I'm not going to let them ignore
>me.

It's simple, really... There's a good chance that they don't feel you
are worth the effort of responding. Based on a good portion of the
stuff you've posted here, I believe that had they told you right up
what they thought of you (assuming they believe you stink), you'd be
on here anyway complaining about that... I don't take you for the type
that appreciates honesty when it's not positive.

It's been said by others on here as well. Fed heads get a lot of crap
in their e-mail. Just like a lot of employers get tons of crap resumes
for the jobs they advertise. To expect them to answer every single
piece of correspondence is completely ridiculous, not to mention a
little bit arrogant.

Like I said... You're not owed a goddamn thing. Either you accept
that, and live life somewhat content, or you don't, and throw a hissy
fit every time someone doesn't respond to every little thing you say
with exactly what you expect.

>- A humanitarian and an optimist on life, and that's what pisses off
>Mat Findlay the most.

Am I pissed off? I don't feel pissed off... I don't think I'm even
coming off as pissed off... Those who have seen me pissed off on here
can vouch for that, I'm sure. If you're a "humanitarian" or
"optimist", that's your problem, not mine.

Mat Findlay

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:32:34 PM2/20/03
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:58:03 GMT, "Nick Demola" <nickd...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Philosophy debate? OOOOOOH! I'm in!
>
>Here are some questions, in the true Socratic tradition.
>
>I wonder...
>
>... why people get told "you're wrong" by twenty others, and nobody takes
>their side, and rather than admitting they're wrong or even just stepping
>back and looking at their actions, they instead choose to attack each and
>every person who disagreed with them.

Nothing says that just because the majority has one stance, and you
another, that you are wrong. It's a matter of perspective. Most of the
great thinkers through history had to put up with this sort of thing.
I do agree, though, that in that case, it's usually best to take stock
of your position, try and understand the opposing point of view, and
re-evaluate your own position objectively.

>... why a couple people can't just have fun in e-wrestling without doing OOC
>attacks. Without bringing personal shit into it.

Because e-wrestling is a testosterone-based hobby filled with a good
number of immature people.

Wugdullah van Bully

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:33:32 PM2/20/03
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In article <b31jgu$1hnjs5$1...@ID-183724.news.dfncis.de>, cards...@hotmail.com
says...

>
>Before you guys kill each other a question...
>
>Anyone can prove that Fletch really got the app? He may have never
>received or accidentaly deleted it...
>
>--
>Luis, the man who turned 27 today. Ykes!

Happy birthday, dude! (-:


G


Big Mike G-Money

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:20:47 AM2/21/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03022...@posting.google.com>...

Whether you perceive the analogy weak or not.. I'd like to see a ratio
of interviews had or applications handed in to calls returned for the
rspwf crew as a whole. I'd guess it is pretty lobsided.. maybe 1 to 5
at best. Just how it is. And what is with your holier than thou
attitude? I think you need a Mello Yello. Or.. maybe.. JUST maybe..
you need me to give you a little serenade. Any particular song you'd
like? Any requests?

G-Money
-Oh.. and.. correct me if I'm wrong.. isn't Neige Thirteen [sp?] the
guy who splits into four parts for a finisher and has David Arquette
as inspriration for some of his moves? Or am I wrong and thinking of
someone else? Just checking.

Big Mike G-Money

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:23:14 AM2/21/03
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Oh.. and btw.. my favorite "philosopher" is..

Bill Hicks.

G-Money
-Yeah, that's right.

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 21, 2003, 11:46:53 AM2/21/03
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> It's simple, really... There's a good chance that they don't feel you
> are worth the effort of responding. Based on a good portion of the
> stuff you've posted here, I believe that had they told you right up
> what they thought of you (assuming they believe you stink), you'd be
> on here anyway complaining about that... I don't take you for the type
> that appreciates honesty when it's not positive.

Yeah, I'd just like to get that out of the way because I really don't
want people to assume. Fact of the matter is after my reaction to the
RSPWF awards, I did only receive three valable criticisms, three
comments on stuff that could be done better. In all cases, I have
either spoken to the person and we discussed civily, or I simply took
the advice outright. Like I previously said, I can handle rejection
and criticism, but there is no reason to ignore me.

Glad to put THAT out of the way. I'll simply finish by saying that the
application I sent was totally legit and that there was no excuse to
simply ignore it (were he to read it first). You ignore adds for
penis-enhancing products or claims that there is a small Ugandan
fortune waiting for you, but when you ask for applications... you
don't ignore applications! You don't ignore people at jobs nor in
e-wrestling (yes, from my workstation, I do receive people who come in
in person to ask for jobs... I don't ignore them, and nobody else
does!), so answer the goddamn mail! It ain't arrogant to expect an
answer, it's just normal! Because you received what you asked for!
Probably not in the form that you wanted it, but discussion can always
resolve that...


Signed: Ninja

- Answer your goddamn mail!

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 21, 2003, 2:16:15 PM2/21/03
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> Whether you perceive the analogy weak or not.. I'd like to see a ratio
> of interviews had or applications handed in to calls returned for the
> rspwf crew as a whole. I'd guess it is pretty lobsided.. maybe 1 to 5
> at best. Just how it is. And what is with your holier than thou
> attitude? I think you need a Mello Yello. Or.. maybe.. JUST maybe..
> you need me to give you a little serenade. Any particular song you'd
> like? Any requests?

You may want a ratio of applications handed to calls returned, but
that would be pretty idealistic and I don't see how I could get the
documentation. I resent the hollier then thou comment, as I simply
treat people with the same respect that I am given if not more. I do
not know what a Mello Yello is, or rather, I know what it is in Québec
and I'm pretty damn sure that isn't what you are talking about (a
Québecois rock band with a trumpet). But in case that was what you
were talking about, they don't do serenades, but they do everything
else including a cover for the opening theme to an old but popular
children's show. I prefer John The Wolf myself.

The Ninja Multiplication Technique - David Arquette presents the four
way massacre. You got it all correct, including the spelling. My goal
was to create something truly unique in the field of finishers, taking
advantage that e-wrestling could stretch reality as long as we are
fair to the other players. Rest assured, I don't make ALL my finishers
so over-the-top, leaving it to people to end a fight however they see
fit.

Signed: Ninja

- See, Wrestlecrap can be used as inspiration for e-wrestling. Taking
e-wrestling so seriously all the time just doesn't make for
entertainment.

- My other suggestion for completely over-the-top finisher was a Texas
Clover Leaf jumping Piledriver, a wrestling move that could be
executed on a human being. Except that realistically, anyone hit by
that move would die. So it's just a question of choosing which sense
of reality to abide by...

ChrisTheNinja

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Feb 21, 2003, 4:12:14 PM2/21/03
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The entirety of your diatribe can be reduced to two points: that
apparently the entirety of the internet is against me and that I am
taking this e-wrestling business much too seriosuly.

Both points are debatable but the problem is that you make such wild
exagerations that it's hard to take you seriously. I hope by now you
know that "Popular concensus is no substitute for Truth" (from Plato)
but now you seem to paint me as the lone man of the universe... You
didn't win the argument on the other thread and you're a sore loser,
is that it? You had no facts, nothing to work with, so of course you
paint me as this big bad monster that's all alone in the world. Well I
have news for you: you just painted yourself into a corner. Because
now, all I have to do to prove you wrong is to join a fed, any fed!
One fed joined and your whole argument sinks like lead. And what's
this I have in my mailbox... why it's an application form for another
e-fed! I could shut up Nick Demola for good, or at least force him to
think a whole five seconds before he spouts his usual shit.

Except that I didn't join it. There was no offence meant, but I was
looking for something else in an e-fed. And I wasn't going to force
myself to do something I wouldn't enjoy just to prove you wrong. So as
frustrating as it must sound for you to admit, I passed down a chance
to humble you just because I wanted to have my fun with e-wrestling.
Because the RSPWF isn't run on the power of your Dick Nemola.

Frustrating, ain't it?

The second point is so much easier address: As much as you'd like to
think otherwise, you are not my psychologist. And if you were, you'd
have to pay ME to perform analysis. So try to analyze as much as you
can, I somehow doubt you'll ever succeed without at least a major on
the subject. So recapping, you are not the person to tell me when I am
having fun and when I'm not. For all you know, I laughed big time when
I thought up that John Sucks Kuc line (Hint: I did). Hell for all you
know, I'm stuck at work, trying to make up a joke using the initials
JSK and some form of Kennedy-esque tragedy (Hint: I am, but it's not
coming along as smoothly as I hoped for. Part of me wishes I'd thunk
up that joke in with the first one in the RP, to be honest.). Point
is, like the quote on the other thread says: who are you to tell me
that I am telling e-wrestling too seriously? I'll tell you what I take
seriously! The goddamn mail! And people not answering it! But like I
said in the opening line, that's no longer about the e-wrestling, this
is about people acknowledging other people and talking to them. Games
are games, but goddamn it, when someone talks to you, you don't just
go ignoring him! Say yes, say no, say something! DECENCY (isn't dead)!

And so as to round up the mess quite soundly... the only reason why I
wanted you to tell me what was going on in the Wild OOC board was
because I thought you had an account, and you already know how I hate
people who talk behind other people's backs. It's such a spiteful
thing to do... I didn't tell you what to do, I told you to make a
decision, which probably amounts to the same thing, but at the time I
didn't think you were crazy enough to make a decision over "the rules"
without hearing the full facts concerning the story. I know, my bad,
my bad... I did not start booking the tournament for you and I am
presently waiting to see how you can twist THAT around! Not that I'm
doubting your fact twisting abilities... And as for those "I hate
Christian" fanclubs, well, can't say I've ever heard of them. People
just don't say these things to my face, and I can't take men who
spread gossip seriously. Women spread gossip, not men (You can tell I
am oozing machizmo). You have anything to say to me, you say it to my
face, or else you don't even exist. However, it would be interresting
to consider the existance of anyone any meeker then JSK.

So as much as I can tell, that settles that. If I haven't completely
exhausted a subject, then do tell. Understand though that I'm gone for
the weekend, so don't mistake my silence for approval. Using proof and
arguments to support my stances, I cannot consider myself the loser in
any of these debates. I'll probably be back by Monday or late Sunday
with something to disprove your "Christian is a pariah" theory, but
till then... keep trying to run the RSPWF with your Dick Nemola!


Signed: Ninja

- That means I'll answer all of your mail on Monday.

- Only has one character, but he's the best.

Aesop Rock

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Feb 21, 2003, 4:24:42 PM2/21/03
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I see your point, Chris.

But you totally painted Fletch as some kind of evil asshole when all he did
was not respond to your application. I thought that was fucked up because
Fletch just... _owns_. Did you ever stop to think that he has a life or
something like that?

I doubt he'll even look at your app now since you decided to drag it out to
this proportion. Maybe you should have discussed this matter with him in
private.

jimmay


Justin Russell

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Feb 21, 2003, 5:57:31 PM2/21/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03022...@posting.google.com>...

> I'll also add that this is not an unwritten law of e-wrestling as much
> as an unwritten law of decency, which may or may not be dead depending
> on whom you believe- but I'll address the overly-cynical fools who
> feel that they can judge the entirety of human nature later on. Oh,
> okay, I'll throw in a snipet for Justin R.: Don't go making sweeping
> judgements on human nature and then tell ME that I should get over
> myself. YOU get over YOURself, and treat your fellow man with a bit of
> decency when the situation will next arise while you're at it.

I'll treat people with decency if I feel they deserve it. You don't
deserve it.

You threw a fit about the year-ends when your character was voted in
the worst wrestler category. You threw a fit about Nick Demola. You
threw a fit when I told you your little wrestling move didn't work.
You throw fits any time something doesn't go your way, then stick your
fingers in your ears and stamp your feet to drown out the people
telling you that you're making a fool of yourself. You remind me of
someone on this newsgroup, but I won't say his name because he's in
just about every other thread.

So I'll feel free to make sweeping judgements about human nature all I
want to, mostly because I feel decency doesn't exist in today's
society. I'll also feel free to tell you to get over yourself, since
you're an egotistical person with an overinflated sense of self-worth
that complains far too much about e-wrestling to be considered in good
mental health. Look at the sheer amount of people posting to tell you
to calm down and realize that it's just a game.

Besides, if I was running a fed where handlers have to actually give
input, I wouldn't want a character that "disappears in a puff of smoke
to reappear behind his opponent and hit him with a snowboard".

As far as me getting over myself? No thanks. I like myself just the
way I am.

Justin
- And I like P*WIN too

Justin Russell

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:00:46 PM2/21/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03022...@posting.google.com>...
> - My other suggestion for completely over-the-top finisher was a Texas
> Clover Leaf jumping Piledriver, a wrestling move that could be
> executed on a human being. Except that realistically, anyone hit by
> that move would die. So it's just a question of choosing which sense
> of reality to abide by...

Chris Hero uses something similar to this... not sure what he calls
it, but Chikara lists is as an indian deathlock piledriver, so yeah,
it's possible.

Justin
- Or you could just use the Jengajam...

Walls

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:04:21 PM2/21/03
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"Nick Demola" <nickd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<QiI4a.175754$be.160124@rwcrnsc53>...

And handles _THE_ worst character I've ever seen in e-w. It's
absolutely ridiculous.

Don't fret Fletch, I never answered his app either.

Roger DeFurio

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Feb 22, 2003, 3:44:00 AM2/22/03
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I did have a longer response typed up for this, but lost it. I don't feel
like retraing my words. I'll make this short and sweet. Give it up.
You're painting your own portrait, sparks. No one else is. Go grab some
nails, and put yourself up on your own little cross, spanky. Just give this
a rest, please.


"ChrisTheNinja" <hisnei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:cd72414c.03022...@posting.google.com...

Roger DeFurio

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Feb 22, 2003, 3:46:06 AM2/22/03
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> I'll treat people with decency if I feel they deserve it. You don't
> deserve it.

I don't think anyone could've made it anymore clearer than this.

Ian Fielding

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:41:45 AM2/22/03
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hisnei...@hotmail.com (ChrisTheNinja) wrote in message news:<cd72414c.03022...@posting.google.com>...

> Ahhhh, feels good. Any of you study philosophy, we can always talk. My
> personal favorite philosopher is Jean-Paul Sartre.


Hey, Self Righteous!

You can do my Ancient Philosophy essay for me, seeing as I'd rather
just laze around, drink some beer and watch 'City of God' tonight:
"Would /The Republic/'s ideal of the Philosopher-Statesman (or
Philosopher-King) be either possible or desirable?"

Has to be in by Friday. Make it about 2,500 words, there's a good
chap.

- Ian Fielding
* if it stops him from posting, right?

Luis "Terminator" Garavello

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:52:08 PM2/22/03
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> To Luis... well I can't prove anything, naturally but I did saw the
> "message sent" confirmation; and like I said in my end-message blurb,
> if it's because of something stupid like that, I would apologize.

"Message sent" is different from "message read".

But I'll take your word here.

--
Luis, the man who accepted everyone at ISSW, even they never sent
nothing


Luis "Terminator" Garavello

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:53:19 PM2/22/03
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"Wugdullah van Bully" <gaz...@pop.mel.tig.com.au> escreveu na mensagem
news:b34a6r$8u6$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...

Tks, Gareth.


Spikyjim

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Feb 23, 2003, 6:55:25 AM2/23/03
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> ... why Spikyjim had to die. Why God, why?

LOL!

Hey. nobody ever saw the body. IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?

No.

But I might come back to EW with someone else. Maybe. Now my personal
life is nearly straightened out. New challenges and all that. Just
not ever with Spiky or ANY of my other characters, because they all
either sucked or are dead now. Or in the case of Spikyjim, both.

Spikes
"Nicest man in E-Wrestling"
"Has a hot wife (tm)"
"The pallbearers at Spikyjim's funeral were: Nick Demola, Frank
Demola, Dave Demola, Spike Demola, Big Dick Demola and Sign Guy
Demola"

Nick Demola

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Feb 23, 2003, 7:08:10 AM2/23/03
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> Hey. nobody ever saw the body. IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?

Well, there was a so-called "body" in a promo for S.W.T. But anyways...

> But I might come back to EW with someone else. Maybe. Now my personal
> life is nearly straightened out. New challenges and all that. Just
> not ever with Spiky or ANY of my other characters, because they all
> either sucked or are dead now. Or in the case of Spikyjim, both.

Bah.

> Spikes
> "Nicest man in E-Wrestling"

Agreed.

> "Has a hot wife (tm)"

Never seen her... clothed. :-)

Seriously, pics, man. I need to jerk off to something.

> "The pallbearers at Spikyjim's funeral were: Nick Demola, Frank
> Demola, Dave Demola, Spike Demola, Big Dick Demola and Sign Guy
> Demola"

Well... what about Alex Demola, Ronnie Demola, Devin Demola, Jake Demola,
Jesus Demola, Levon Demola, and Jeremy Locke-Demola? They feel left out.

And you forget Demola Demola, Dances With Demola, Little Snot Demola, and
Chubby Demola.

---
Nick Demola
"ECW Mark #1"

OPERATOR OF:

The Supreme Wrestling Tournament
(aka - the Year Long Tournament)
http://swtewrestling.tripod.com

HANDLER OF:

Nick Demola (Empire Wrestling, KCW, S.W.T., UKCW)
- UKCW Heavyweight Champion

"Bad Seed" Devin Demola (ASW)
- 12 Day Tournament Champion

"Flash" Andrews (OWE, S.W.T.)
- OWE Television Champion

"Buzzsaw" Wesson (USCW, S.W.T.)

J.R. Locke, esq. (S.W.T.)

Jonah "Ice" Keller (SPW)

"The Sophist" Amos Zetetic (KAWF)

The Resurrection - Nick Demola & Devin Demola (WLW)

Smith and Wesson - Widowmaker Smith & Buzzsaw Wesson (NEO)

Desolation Row - The Black Demon & FIRESTORM (they're coming... like Ron
Jeremy, they're coming...)


Wugdullah van Bully

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Feb 23, 2003, 8:37:29 AM2/23/03
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In article <c90bbc8b.03022...@posting.google.com>,
spik...@ntlworld.com says...

>
>> ... why Spikyjim had to die. Why God, why?
>
>LOL!
>
>Hey. nobody ever saw the body. IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?
>
>No.
>
>But I might come back to EW with someone else. Maybe. Now my personal
>life is nearly straightened out. New challenges and all that. Just
>not ever with Spiky or ANY of my other characters, because they all
>either sucked or are dead now. Or in the case of Spikyjim, both.

Clone him!

David Demola

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Feb 23, 2003, 2:11:49 PM2/23/03
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spik...@ntlworld.com (Spikyjim) wrote in message news:<c90bbc8b.03022...@posting.google.com>...


Who were the paul bearers at David Rheaume's funeral?
None, sence no one cared, he dragged himself:)

Davey
"2nd biggest asshole in e-wrestling, first is Neige"
"Has Spike's hot wife....but don't tell him:)"
"The pallbearers at David's funeral were:
Bozo the clown, Mr. Catholic Rapist, and Ronnie Demola"

RSE Corporate Whore

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Feb 24, 2003, 3:40:56 AM2/24/03
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> You may want a ratio of applications handed to calls returned, but
> that would be pretty idealistic and I don't see how I could get the
> documentation.

My turn, I wanna play too...

No, you can't accurately document a fact like this. From personal
experience, as OSW president, I turn down/don't respond to about half
the applications I receive... and I've got open spots on the roster.
Like everyone said... this isn't a new practice.

But you want stats? How about the applied/called back ratio in a
real-life workplace? By your own rational, since you take the time to
fill out an application for a job, the employer should, by common
courtesy, be sure to call you back and let you know you are completely
underqualified. Despite the fact that he may get 3000 applications a
day, since you took 10 minutes out of your busy life to fill out one
of them, he's obligated to respond.

Did I pretty much get that right?

Exact same situation here. Your character is a fringe character, who
simply WON'T draw interest from some places. For you to feel like
you're owed some debt just for the priviledge of reading your
application is stupid... I have a life, and this game is just a hobby
that I make time for... not something that completely takes my life
over. As is the case with Walls and Fletch.

Now, I know this is all gonna go completely over your head, so just do
me one favor... PLEASE stop using the word "hypocrisy" and all of it's
derivatives. It drives me fucking insane when people misuse that
word.

"KrazyAce" Jerod Story
* The character sucks, but I was interested in the handler until this
thread started...
President of Old-School Wrestling
http://www.rocksolidcorp.com/osw/
Handler of:
- Fire and Ice (NEO, _FREE AGENTS_)
- Cow and Chicken (returning soon... kinda)
- Menace 2 Sobriety (free ag... fuck, I need to pick another fed
already)

World Wrestling Organization (1994-2002)
Forever "Simply the Best"

OFFICIAL COW AND CHICKEN MARKS:
===============================
1. Frank Demola
2. Rich Vail (a VERY close second ;))

QOTW:
"My vote goes to Cow and Chicken. With such quotes as: "Eet more
chiken." "Moo." and... uhhhh. Something else. Add that with
Chickencanranas and big beefy splashes, and you have a revamped,
renewed and rejuvinated EMWC Tag Team Division."
- Frank Demola, becoming the first-ever OFFICIAL C&C mark.

"Best... Name... Ever."
- Walls, after hearing the name of my newest brainchild, M2S.

"It's not Stone's fault."
- Jeremy S., when asked for a humorous quote.

"eet mor chiken."
- "Da Cow God" Moo... Sadly, the most over catchphrase in BSCW...
and soon, NEO. :)

"'Cuz when it comes down to it, we're all just a bunch of D&D, comic
books, video game, horror movie geeks pretending to be guys rolling
around in their underwear."
- Rich Vail, on why e-w gets him so damn horny.

"Some of the EMWC guys have noticed Colton now. I told them not only
where they could go, and how fast the trip would be, but which
websites could get them the cheapest fares."
- Mitch Worthington, pissing off half the Empire in one fell swoop.

"The moral of the story is.. ah, fuck it. Drink beer, bang women, and
bash internet games and start an interstellar war without lifting a
finger."
- Mitch, apologizing.

"Rich was wondering about all the late cards, and I told him if there
weren't any late cards, we'd all go mad and start killing people
randomly."
- Don Cameron, finally unveiling the REAL reason for late cards.

"Did I mention just how much I loathe your continued existance today?"
- Dave "Picky" Olvera, showing how much he cares.

"***Commish- so this one looks over folks and 1... 2... but what
the hell what is This now a huge looking cow is coming to the ring
Crow and Tom: A WHAT?
***Commish- it explodes blood everwhere
Crow: EXPLODING COWS! This is the BEST wrestling match in the
history of the world!"
- http://www.geocities.com/bobwrestling/iad_main.html, covering the
Match from HELL~!

Picky

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Feb 25, 2003, 4:13:55 AM2/25/03
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> Your character is a fringe character, who simply WON'T draw interest from
> some places.

Did someone call me?

Oh, wait...

-D

Jack Handy

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Mar 1, 2003, 1:30:45 AM3/1/03
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>jimmay
>-calm the fuck down, ninja.

Very quotable.

--
J.A.B.

"Calm the fuck down, ninja." -- Jimmay

Jack Handy

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Mar 1, 2003, 1:35:35 AM3/1/03
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>No, excuse me, but fuck that. People send you an intelligent letter,
>you answer it. If you ignore people, don't go around asking help from
>others- as in the case with the machinery that is e-wrestling. I sent
>Fletcher a well thought-out letter, complete and all, and the fucker
>ignores it. It's not that I can't handle rejection: I recently sent an
>application to many e-feds, and many a fed-head does not agree with my
>characters in-ring stuff. They answer me that in an e-mail, there is
>an open channel and that satisfies me. I like to believe that in this
>RSPWF community, we are all civil human beings and that there is a way
>that we can talk out our differences, not just put our hands to our
>ears and scream LA LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING.
>
>And fuck, if I happen upon scumbags like that- There's always the
>RSPWF google group to out the bastards. Take action against those that
>piss you off the most. Flamewars? If it comes to that, I'm game.
>
>
>Signed: Chris. Call him Ninja so he can be differenced from all the
>other Chris's
>
>- And just to show that I am serious, if the reason that I never
>received an answer was because he sent it and I never received it, or
>I sent something and he never received it; or something similarly
>silly- Hey! I'll be a man and take back everything I said and formally
>apologise. Sorry for the whole mix-up.

I just thought I should point out that if you would kindly pick up a copy of
the Wall Street Journal, and I think it is on Saturdays that they list all of
the promotions for every major corporation.

THAT, my friend, is how you find out whether or not you got the job in real
life. Don't think because this is fantasy land that you get treated any
better. Shit rolls down hill, and you have got to wear your rubber boots.
Something Abraham Maslow should've said, if he didn't.

--
J.A.B.

"Hugged your Careful Idol of Cynicism lately?"

Jack Handy

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Mar 1, 2003, 1:39:57 AM3/1/03
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>Ahhhh, feels good. Any of you study philosophy, we can always talk. My
>personal favorite philosopher is Jean-Paul Sartre.

If you like Sartre, then you really cannot be the one complaining about not
receiving anything. If you are any kind of follower/listener of Sartre at all,
his extreme equableness should have rubbed off on you... somehow it hasnt.

Jack Handy

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Mar 1, 2003, 1:54:38 AM3/1/03
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>Happy birthday, dude! (-:

That smiley is SATANIC!!!

--
J.A.B.

"Calm the fuck down ninja" -- Jimmay

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