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WORLD LEAGUE WRESTLING


FIRST UPDATE!!!


[We open to the WLW News desk where Stan Carter sits in his nicely
pressed black suit and tie. His hands are folded and there's a look of
excitement on his face as he waits for the signal to begin. A voice in
the background is heard shouting "You're on!" Carter turns towards the
camera and speaks...]


Stan Carter: Hello fans, and welcome to this edition of WLW Central. Our
roster is complete and we are preparing to have our first ever "WLW
Tuesday Night Titans" event which will take place on Tuesday Night,
September 10th at 11PM.

THE LINE-UP FOR THE FIRST "TUESDAY NIGHT ACTION" WILL BE ANNOUNCED THIS
WEEKEND!! (Sunday night, the latest) However, the brackets for the World
Title tourney is in THIS update!!

FOUR of the opening round matches will take place during the September
10th Tuesday Night Titans...along with the huge match that will decide
the Vacant WLW Tag Team Titles!!


Meanwhile...

YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY??

Well, now you can say it!! The Roleplaying can officially begin!! Send
all roleplays to

wlw-wr...@yahoogroups.com

This is the e-mail address that all WLW-related materials will be sent
out from weekly cards from us Tuesday Nights, to what your character is
doing throughout the rest of the week (in other words...Roleplays).

Remember, quality beats quantity EVERY day of the week so better to put
your 100 percent of your talent and energy into one roleplay...then 20
percent into five roleplays.


DUE DATES

The first card, "Tuesday Night Action: The Debut" will take place on
TUESDAY, September 10th, coming from The Americal Civic Center, in
Boston, Massachusetts. All strats for this card are due no later then
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 4th (the card is announced down below). Roleplays will
still count towards this card as of Saturday, September 8th. You can
still roleplay after this date, but at that point, your quality will
count towards your NEXT match.

The line-up for this card will be out this weekend!!

Remmeber, all roleplays get sent to wlw-wr...@yahoogroups.com

Strats go to both
---------------------

maste...@hotmail.com

AND

mark...@worldnet.att.net


ALL tag teams send your strats to mbil...@twcny.rr.com

THE WORLD TITLE TOURNAMENT!!


The brackets have been set up and spread out along our upcoming events.
Each bracket will consist of four wrestlers and two rounds! The opening
round matches will take place as part of our first two weekly cards "WLW
Tuesday Night Action". The finals of each of the four brackets will take
place during our third card.

Then...the four winners of each bracket will compete in a "Quadruple
Threat Match" in which tag rules apply, anyone can tag anyone else into
the match...and this special match can ONLY end when one of the four
competitors has scored TWO falls, each either by pinfall or submission.
Here are the brackets set up in order to determine who will compete in
the "Quadruple Threat Match" for the World League Wrestling Championship
belt:

BRACKET A
---------

"The American Rage" Chris Page

vs

Steve Douglas


============> Finals for Bracket A


"The Real Untouchable" TrU

vs

"Flyking" Will Geddings


BRACKET B
---------

Joshua Barnes

vs

Jacob Josh Jordan


============> Finals for Bracket B


"Redemption" Justin Slayne

vs

"The Couch Potato" Carl Lumski


BRACKET C
---------

Hightower

vs

The Mercenary


============> Finals for Bracket C


"Hatchetman" Joey Terrifying

vs

Czon Yozon


BRACKET D
---------

Ryan "The Suburbian Abomination" Delaney

vs

"Wild One" Brian Young


============> Finals for Bracket D


Ryan Valtorro

vs

David Hagen


NOTE: The winners of the four brackets will face in a QUADRUPLE THREAT
MATCH where the only way to become the first ever WLW Champion...is to
win TWO falls within the match!!

TAG TEAM TITLE SITUATION - will be announced along with the line-up for
the first card, this weekend!!


------------

The opening bell for roleplays has been sounded!! Remember, Quality
beats Quantity EVERYTIME!! (we would also appreciate a limit of no more
than 3 rps a week...and even that's A LOT...and one of superior quality
will beat out 1 of equally superior quality along with two mediocre
rps).

Most important - HAVE FUN!!!

Sincerely,

The Fedheads of the WLW!

Casey N.

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Aug 24, 2002, 11:58:02 PM8/24/02
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Don't flame it... you know I meant 'fed' not 'ged.'

Casey N.

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Aug 24, 2002, 11:57:36 PM8/24/02
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Great roster.

You have a ...


>"The American Rage" Chris Page
>

Plagiarist.

Then you have a...

>"The Real Untouchable" TrU

Flake.

And finally, this one is a real good one tho'...

>Joshua Barnes

A rip-off, plagiarist, flake, liar, with a big ego.

Dope.

And your Fed name rips off an actual Wrestling ged.

I want in.

Mike E.

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 1:03:54 PM8/25/02
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Ehhh, I might as well just post this here for everybody's enjoyment, instead of
just sending it to Mark ...

But anyway Mark, here's my WLW App.

SINGLES APPLICATION

Name (yours): Brendan Fucking Horton
Email address: Big...@aol.com
Instant Messenger, IRC, etc. handles: BigHort

Wrestler's Name: "The Walking Mute Point" Antonio Touche
Ht. & Wt. : 6'8" 272 lb.
"Hometown": Contradictionville, USA

Alignment, Face Or Heel? And let me emphasize that; Face, OR, Heel.
There are two options. Committ to one. Pick one and stick with it.
"Shit or get off the pot", so to speak.):

I'll take 'Shit' for 200, Alex.

RING ENTRANCE:
[Note: don't make this too long and overproduced, mmkay? We don't
want 5 paragraphs giving me the minutest and most intimate details
of the shape color and form of the pyrotechnics as they "lurch from
the bowels of thelaunchers and illuminate the arena." This should be
functional and brief. Give us a few lines to describe how your
wrestler comes to the ring and enters it -- as much, or as little,
as it takes to get over what sort of disposition your wrestler has
(cocky, humble, high-energy, etc.) and whether he's a face or a
heel. Work in some theme music as you wish, and even a few lyrics
if you want, but remember you're guy is going to get to the ring in
less than a minute, so there's NO WAY there's time to get through
all three verses AND the bridge AND the chorus AND the guitar solo.
Title and Artist should be enough, and maybe a couple lines of lyrics
if they really tie in to your character and help establish what sort
of person he (she?) is.]

TO SUM UP - GET IN THE RING AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND LET'S
LET THE WRESTLERS' SHOW OFF THEIR TALENTS FROM THE
ACTION IN THE RING!!!

#DU
#DU HAST
#DU HAST MEICH

[Antonio Touche stands in the ring, waiting for his opponent.]

Short enough?

MOVESET:
[Don't bother doing much more than 10, because most of the time, that's
plenty. These are your signature moves, the non-finisher grade moves
that your guy never the less always seems to use...kinda like how Scott
Hall always does that thing where he catches the guy, holds him
horizontal and then tosses him backward over his head? Or maybe Bret
Hart's old infamous FIVE MOVES OF DOOM {backbreaker, 2nd rope elbow,
russian leg sweep, hart attack clothesline, Sharpshooter} And by
the way... the first jackass to send me 1004 moves with a third of
them listed as some form of "armbar" gets jobbed faster than a
speeding Horowitz. Got it? Good.]

1. German Suplex
2. Japanese Armbar
3. German Leg Sweep
4. Michinoku Armbar~!
5. Top Rope Elbow Drop -- Like Chris Courtade does
6. Jogs around ring, opponent chasing him, to tire opponent out
7. Fujiwara Armbar
8. Reverse Armbar
9. Blatant Choke
10. The move where he grabs his opponents head, spins around, throws his legs
out in front of him, keeping hold of his opponents head, landing on his
buttocks, injuring his opponents head and neck, and lets go of opponents head
-- like Stone Cold does


SPECIAL MOVES {1 minimum, 3 maximum}: These are your "finisher"
moves, the favored coups des grace. These moves will most of the
time (but not by any means always!) bring the match to a happy
ending...for you, anyway. You are strongly encouraged to have more
than one signature move, because special move kick outs ARE going
to happen. Which is why I prefer to use the term Special/Specialty
and hesitate to label these moves "finisher" moves. So if you have
a few, the more likely you'll end up looking better when (if) you win
a given match.

Note: If one move stands out as your wrestler's trademark finisher or
is more important then the rest, note it as such.

1. The Mute Point - Touche karate chops his opponent across the throat,
rendering him unable to speak.

2. Touche THIS - Antonio dodges about 10 of his opponent's offensive arsenals
consecutively, but looking like an idiot in the process ... the crowd laughs at
him, he cries, and then curls up into a ball, where he's safe.

3. The Screw Job - A.T. literally hits his opponent with a screw driver, while
they aren't looking, so he can claim he didn't screw them, when he really did.


*** None of these moves finish a match ... it just keeps going and going,
because Touche refuses to pin his opponent, or be pinned. He just keeps
parading around, trying to get heat from the crowd.

STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES:

S
1) Antonio is extremely seasoned in lateral movement. He backpedals like no
other.

2) He tries his hardest ... now this may seem lame, but giving your best effort
is a big thing, IMO. He'll do anything to get heat, including make himself
look stupid, or just be an all around moron.

3) He is in excellent physical shape from result of daily jogs through parks
with his father, followed by other 'extracarricular' activities.

W
1) There is a slim possibility that he was born with Down Syndrome. He refuses
to go to a doctor, claiming that he is more intelligent than they are, so we'll
never know for sure. But either way, this puts him at a disadvantage.

He only has one weakness, sucka!

HISTORY:

Nobody really knows. He won't tell anybody, because he's positive that the
entire world is out to get him. It's as much a mystery as what he's doing in
professional wrestling to begin with.

MISC:

He's a homosexual.

MATCH WRITING:

Hell no.


- Brendan Horton
Next WLW World Champion

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 2:44:24 PM8/25/02
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Gee, Brandan, what was I thinking when I said you had no life? :)

But at least this character is far more interesting then the one you had
in the UEW and Wrestlebowl a while ago.

Certainly more original. What was that stupid name of his, again? I
forget.

Btw, application denied.

Mark

((Wonders who long Brandon's ear to ear smile lasted after hitting the
"Send" button on his computer))

Senor JayCasa

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Aug 25, 2002, 3:48:55 PM8/25/02
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That...was....great.

- Jay
*laughed EXTREMELY hard.

- JayCasa

"Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting
the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian."
- Dennis Wholey (1937-)

Handler of:
Laramee [BSCW]

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 4:06:26 PM8/25/02
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>But at least this character is far more interesting then the one you had
>in the UEW and Wrestlebowl a while ago.
>

I was never in UEW or Wrestlebowl, nor did I apply to either, to my knowledge
...

I handle one character, Brendan Blade, who has been in CCW, GPW, IWWC, BUWE,
and now PAW. Well, now I handle Antonio Touche, also. And since ...

>Btw, application denied.

Anybody looking for an interesting character for their fed??

- Brendan Horton
Handles: Antonio Touche [Free Agent]

LoPic29

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Aug 25, 2002, 4:33:06 PM8/25/02
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Sweet fucking Jesus, Mark.

Brendan and I were going to feud. We would have put WLW on the map. It would
have been "Mute Point" Antonio Touche vs. "Neo-Jogger" Frank Illuminati.

Now I'll have to leave the basement, talk to a girl, or worse yet, kiss one. I
hear they have coodies.

I can see the conversation on one of those jogs through the park now.

"Son, leave those girls alone. Private parts are called private because
they're supposed to remain _private._"

"OK, Dad. I thought Joe Birmingham had something to do with it."

"You stay in the basement, you hear me?"

Ahh, I could go on, but I won't.

Nick

Brian Bell

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Aug 25, 2002, 4:51:27 PM8/25/02
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worldis...@aol.common (Casey N.) wrote in message news:<20020824235802...@mb-co.aol.com>...

> Don't flame it... you know I meant 'fed' not 'ged.'


I guess since you are no part of this fed it dosen't matter what you think of it.

- Brian Bell

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 4:54:56 PM8/25/02
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Brendan Fucking Horton wrote:
>
> >But at least this character is far more interesting then the one you had
> >in the UEW and Wrestlebowl a while ago.
> >
>
> I was never in UEW or Wrestlebowl, nor did I apply to either, to my knowledge
> ...


Ahh, that explains a lot. The Brendan I knew back then was a real cool
guy...and I was wondering what happened to him...when did he get such a
huge stick up his ass??

Now that I know you're two different people, it makes perfect sense.


> >Btw, application denied.
>
> Anybody looking for an interesting character for their fed??
>

On second thought, I could use a crappy jobber based on having
absolutely zero ability...sure you don't want to send in an app for
Brendan Blade??

Mark

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 4:56:23 PM8/25/02
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LoPic29 wrote:

> Ahh, I could go on, but I won't.
>
> Nick

I don't blame you, it wasn't the idea wasn't really going anywhere
anyways.

It sounded more like "I'm going to be cool by copying everyone else's
material...just not as well".

Nice try though, thanks for pitching in.

Mark

LoPic29

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Aug 25, 2002, 5:23:03 PM8/25/02
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Actually, it was more like me crawl under a fucking hole and touch yourself.

But touche.

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 5:27:50 PM8/25/02
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>On second thought, I could use a crappy jobber based on having
>absolutely zero ability...sure you don't want to send in an app for
>Brendan Blade??

Ahhh, nothing quite like empty statements with no backing. Where, other than
UEW and Wrestlebowl (of course) have you read my work?

Not all of us can be #1 on the Year Ends Mark ... and keep it posted on the
fridge in our basement for 3 years ... Then again, not all of our Male
characters can finish #1 in the Top 100 Women's Poll either, so ehh, I'll just
be content with where I'm at, and what I'm doing.

Stop taking this game so seriously Mark, go outside, it's a beautiful day.

- Brendan Horton

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 5:29:54 PM8/25/02
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>I don't blame you, it wasn't the idea wasn't really going anywhere
>anyways.

That's poor grammEr Mark.

>It sounded more like "I'm going to be cool by copying everyone else's
>material...just not as well".

Actually Nick and I co-created our characters, and weren't sure whether we'd
have them tag or feud ... and I'd reconsider our applications, with <giggles>
Chris Page on your roster.

THA AMERICAN RAGE~!~!

If this is the same one from DA$' GPW ...

(I await a John Armstrong comment here ...)

Then good luck with your WLW Mark, cause you'll need it.

- Brendan Horton
Not good enough to be in WLW
Antonio Touche ... still a Free Agent

Jason Russell

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Aug 25, 2002, 5:46:46 PM8/25/02
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Mark Rosendorf wrote:



Anybody looking for an interesting character for their fed??


On second thought, I could use a crappy jobber based on having
absolutely zero ability...sure you don't want to send in an app for
Brendan Blade??

Mark
    Hey, Mark.  While you're at it, tell me a little bit about Brendan Blade, and why he sucks.  After all, you're apparently an expert on the character, since he has zero ability.

-The Sabster
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Greg Roberts

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Aug 25, 2002, 9:01:15 PM8/25/02
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> THA AMERICAN RAGE~!~!
>
> If this is the same one from DA$' GPW ...
>
> (I await a John Armstrong comment here ...)
>
> Then good luck with your WLW Mark, cause you'll need it.

At the risk of dog-piling, I've gotta agree with your assessment of Chris
Page. I did a thing with him at WB a few years back, and he was God-awful.
We setup a vignette where Curtis (the captain of the team) would walk in on
Page and another guy (Ace of Hearts, I believe it was) training, and there
would be some back and forth in it between all 3 guys. Ace wrote up his
part, I wrote up my part, then sent it to Page's handler for his part. When
it aired, I was floored. Basically, it went something like this:

[Curtis walks in...]

Curtis: Hey, boys, blah blah blah.

[Ace turns to Curtis...]

Ace: Cowboy blah blah blah

[Page stares into the camera...]

Page: JUST IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, I'M AMERICAN RAGE CHRIS PAGE,
AND I'M GONNA KICK SEVERAL DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF ASS AT WRESTLEBOWL!!!

You get the picture... :(

Greg


Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:51:42 PM8/25/02
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LoPic29 wrote:
>
> Actually, it was more like me crawl under a fucking hole and touch yourself.
>
> But touche.


Wow, you're SO cool...can I be like you??

Mark

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:53:33 PM8/25/02
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Brendan Fucking Horton wrote:
> Stop taking this game so seriously Mark, go outside, it's a beautiful day.
>
> - Brendan Horton

And how long were you sitting in YOUR basement writing up that
application towards nothing again, Brendan??

I mean...can you be more pathetic, there, kid?

Loser.

Mark

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:55:35 PM8/25/02
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Brendan Fucking Horton wrote:

> Then good luck with your WLW Mark, cause you'll need it.
>
> - Brendan Horton

Why thank you, Brendan, knowing that the WLW will be looked upon with
open minds and fair shakes by people like you should make it an easier
road towards success.

Glad you're on my side and looking out for me, kid.

Enjoy it.

Mark

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:57:28 PM8/25/02
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>And how long were you sitting in YOUR basement writing up that
>application towards nothing again, Brendan??
>

About 5 minutes, and it was pooring here yesterday :-), in New York.

>I mean...can you be more pathetic, there, kid?

Sure, I mean, I could be you.

*rimshot*

>Loser.

TOUCHE~!~! That's it, I don't have to take this anymore. I'm telling my mom
... once she comes down to the basement ...

- Brendan Horton

LoPic29

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:58:36 PM8/25/02
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Nah, you don't get it. I wouldn't expect you to. I'm not trying to be "cool"
Mark, I'm not trying to impress anybody. It's not "cool" to make fun of Mark
Rosendorf. But I will admit, it's pretty fucking fun when you're bored. Just
so we're clear about that. I'm not making fun of you to be "cool"... I'm
making fun of you because you're a fucking idiot. And I could give a damn
about your feelings.

Discuss it all you want, but I'm fading back into newsgroup obscurity. I shot
my load, and it's already getting old.

Nick

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:02:28 PM8/25/02
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Greg Roberts wrote:

> At the risk of dog-piling, I've gotta agree with your assessment of Chris
> Page.

Well, I'm sure you could understand, Greg, if I choose NOT to go in with
a snob's attitude and give everyone the same opportunity to succeed or
fallin the WLW.

Being the legend that you are, I'm sure each and every federation you
join gives you more then fair opportunity while others never get that
chance.

The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
without influence from outside sources.

As all feds should be, at least in my view.

Mark

Greg Roberts

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:23:46 PM8/25/02
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> > At the risk of dog-piling, I've gotta agree with your assessment of
Chris
> > Page.
>
> Well, I'm sure you could understand, Greg, if I choose NOT to go in with
> a snob's attitude and give everyone the same opportunity to succeed or
> fallin the WLW.

It's your fed, you can do what you wish. My previous post was not an an
opinion of you or your fed, but rather my opinion of Chris Page.

> Being the legend that you are, I'm sure each and every federation you
> join gives you more then fair opportunity while others never get that
> chance.

Besides the fact that this has nothing to do with my original post, I have
to ask... what is a "more than fair opportunity"? I think I know what you
are implying, but I want you to explain it to me before I respond.

> The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
> fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
> here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
> without influence from outside sources.
>
> As all feds should be, at least in my view.

With all due respect, Mark, this is wrong. Fedheads that reject certain
handlers or characters based on their previous experiences with those
handlers or characters aren't being "snobs", Mark, they're trying to build
the fed that they want to run. In other words, the past is very relevant.
Now, if you want to give a guy a chance to step up and improve, then so be
it. But to say that a handler's past work should not be taken into
consideration when determinign whether to accept that handler into your fed
is to set yourself for failure, IMHO.

Greg


Blottieb

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:49:53 PM8/25/02
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>> Well, I'm sure you could understand, Greg, if I choose NOT to go in with
>> a snob's attitude and give everyone the same opportunity to succeed or
>> fallin the WLW.

>> Being the legend that you are, I'm sure each and every federation you


>> join gives you more then fair opportunity while others never get that
>> chance.

>> The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and


>> fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
>> here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
>> without influence from outside sources.
>>
>> As all feds should be, at least in my view.

Now hold on...

If a guy sucks, he sucks. It doesn't matter if he's going up against a legend
like Greg or a schmo like Brendan (flips off Brendan).

So what happened in the past _shouldn't_ matter... if the past happened to be
something not relevant to the current situation. If someone pissed someone
else off, and got incessantly jobbed for it, then that's past that's not
relevant. But if it was a lack of talent that ended up getting the person
chided, then that's certainly relevant to the WLW, because unless you're
desperate for handlers, I really can't see the fed surviving with people who
couldn't put a sentence together with an English tutor standing beside them.

Oh, and just for my personal amusement, I'll shoot a big, wide, gaping hole in
your logic. If Chris Buse, Joe Birmingham, and Mat Findlay (legend that he is)
all applied to your fed, with characters that weren't jokes, and all of them
were completely serious about joining... would you let them?

So... what's happened in the past _does_ matter. Logic... shot to hell.

Thank you, everyone. Goodnight!

Brian J. Blottie
-Maybe I should get outside. Or maybe I should get off Mat's nutsack. I KNOW!
Maybe I should meet a girl. Oh, but I forget... I'm too ugly to meet a girl.
Damn...

Jizzy

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:52:22 PM8/25/02
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"Mark Rosendorf" <mark...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Brendan Fucking Horton wrote:
>
> > Then good luck with your WLW Mark, cause you'll need it.
> >
> > - Brendan Horton
>
> Why thank you, Brendan, knowing that the WLW will be looked upon with
> open minds and fair shakes by people like you should make it an easier
> road towards success.
>

...along with such talents as "The Real Untouchable" TrU, "Redemption"
Justin Slayne, and "Hatchetman" Joey Terrifying! The only thing that would
make WLW even better is colors! Good luck on your road towards success,
good sir!

Jamesy-poo


Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:58:06 PM8/25/02
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Mark's not the type to prejudge characters, which is exactly why he called
Brendan Blade a shit character based on having no talent. That's the plug of
the century. Everybody join WLW, if you are immune to this kind of behavior!

- Brendan Horton ... got a fair chance & blew it ... <sigh>

Al Koholic

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:58:35 PM8/25/02
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>The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
>fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
>here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
>without influence from outside sources.

Is this your way of letting Buse know that he can bring CC to WLW?

Higor Rosa
Da sig is back
Bow da fuck down BiaTCHeS
Higgy the Niggy
Owner of the World's Longest Sig
The Most Updated Sig on RSPWF Today
Who dares to challenge my sig?
Welcome to the only sig that may be longer than some feds cards
#1 Ultimate W. Fuckmonster mark on the planet
Batman is the AHToC Winner for July and August and September 2K!
August and September victories are via default because all Super Heroes are
still regrouping from my wrath in July
BATMAN OWNS ALL! HAHAHA!
Kozak needs to comeback to do those tournaments
Marks for Satan Clause
Marks even more for Pal Penis
Even I have my own marks ...
Robzilla12: <== Rosa mark.
Juvy still marks out for me!

Handler Of:
Higor "The Rebel" Rosa
[N.E.W.]
Career Record: Yeah, Like I ever counted
#110 on RSPWF 200 for 2000
#2 Match of the Year on RSPWF Year-end Awards for 2000 VS. Devon Case, Chris
Courtade and Mr. Black [N.E.W. Heavyweight Championship - Brawl on the Bayou
IV]
#9 Best Foreign Wrestler on 2000 Mid-years [Conducted on IRC]
#99 on RSPWF's Worst 200 poll for '99
#141 On 1999 RSPWF Mid-year Top 200 Poll.
RSPWF End-Year Awards: #9 Best Brawler and Runner-up Best Finisher [Confederate
Crush]

"Rock Hard" Chris Stevens
[Missing]
If you've seen this man, please, don't let me know, just kill him for me
Student number 1021 from the list of graduates from the Keening School of
Grappling Arts
Graduated on October 13th, 1999

"The Deadly Method" Shawn Foster
[FREE AGENT]
The World's Best Lightweight Wrestler

Los Banditos
Carlito and Jorgito with their manager/brother José
[Deported back to Mexico by EMWC owner Chris Blue]
The future of Tag Team Wrestling in the US is now doomed

Scorpian
[I'm sure he's a jobber somewhere]
Record: Somewhere around 12-1654-21
Managed by Nightfall, wrestling's most hardcore big guy

Nemo
[RETIRED]
Record: I dunno
The world's darkest secret
Step into his world, I dare you

David Randall
[GLCW]
The real future of professional wrestling.


I still mark for the Right/Left Nut Connection, even after all of these years
BRING THEM BACK~! BRING THEM BACK~!
BRING THEM BACK OR I'LL MAKE JOE EAT YOUR BALLS~!
ICQ#- 46811337
IRC Nick- Al_Koholic
Epitome Of Flaming
RSPWF Army Living Legend
Retired from the RSPWF Army
Beat Dan Wilson in Slingo Playoff, 4-3!
Beat Ish in Slingo Playoff, 4-2!
Beat Greg May in Slingo Playoff 4-2!
AOL Slingo Champion!
# 1 in Slingo. I'll take on all challengers to defend my slingo title.
Who's Next?
My old sig was still twice as long as this. Ask Ish.
Sick Of Pro-Wrestling Posters On Fantasy Wrestling Boards!
THE PEOPLE'S DRUNK!
Al Koholic 3:16 Says- I just drank all the beer in your damn house~!
Drunk 24:7 Says- Got Beer?
Hates it when people type before they think or don't say things to themselves
first to make sure it makes sense
Still a member of the Alex Cote fan club #12345! He needs to make a comeback
in the new ICW!
I am still now, like I always have been and always will be, Sam's bitch

Famous Quotes:

"BossofnWo: Hey, I am Eric Bischoff, I am looking for a new wrestler
tohelp me win ratings. I have heared Higor Rosa is over with the Fans and I
washoping you could come to WCW/NwO and join the NwO to help me get ride of
theHorsemen once thing for all. What do you say
Batman9637: LoL" Dateless, but sometime in 1999

"You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far
that even the neutrons have collapsed. Nothing in our universe can really be
this stupid." J.R. Hollis to Ish, on 2/16/99

"Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count,
you will have more success." J.R. Hollis to Ish again, on 2/16/99

"Blu is GoD: Hey X-Dawg
XmAnDaWgX: Hey
Blu is GoD: Not you
XmAnDaWgX: who?
Blu is GoD: Other X-Dawg
Blu is GoD: I forgot "Dawg" was in your name" In Private Room eWrestling
when Las wanted to speak to John Bridges (Xjaculate), on 3/06/99

"What the fuck do you want bitch?" My brother on 9/13/99, referring to my dog.

"Yo, somebody across the street from me croaked.." Ish on 9/28/99

'Pokemon: Japanese for "Ninja Turtles" ' Topic on #UWF on 11/16/99

"Dude, I just puked on my dog" Douggiestyle AKA Doug on 12/4/99

"3-D technology was used in medicine and astronomy and was very popular for
pornagraphy." Winter 2K Issue of Sports Illustrated [Swimsuit
Issue....WOOOHOO!!] 2/23/2K

"I'd rather shit my pants all day long, then rub my face in it then get AOL"
Duff on 5/16/2K

"Robzilla12: <== Rosa mark.
Batman9636: Awesome...that goes in the sig
Robzilla12: Do it, at least it's not a homosexual remark.
Batman9636: heh yeah
Batman9636: it'll be good to hide the truth
Robzilla12: Fuck you nigga!" 5/30/2K

"Robzilla12: I said, add this:
Robzilla12: <==== Gay Bashing, Mother Fucker.
Batman9636: sure
Robzilla12: I did this with my friend Steve, we got into a huge fight. He
called me a homolicious mama's boy, and I called him a Pirate Butt Fucking
Queer." 5/30/2K [Shortly after what is above]

"Batman9636: Ruthie was ugly as hell
nirvnax69: She looked like a female Tiger Woods, dude!" 6/3/2K [We were
talking about Real World Hawaii]

"Cyk0MaGNeT: I love talking to girls about their ovaries, and you can quote
me on that and put it in your profile.
Batman9636: haha" 7/1/2K

"Batman9636: What's up bro?
CubBumDuff: My penis
Batman9636: Checking out the porn, eh?
Batman9636: That's gonna go in my sig :-P
CubBumDuff: No, it shot up as you IM'ed me" 7/2/2K

"BlazinBaby 03: where did the 4th of July come from newayz??
Chicka183: independence
MMay814794: blazin, are you blonde?
BlazinBaby 03: me??
MMay814794: of course you
BlazinBaby 03: yah im blonde why?
MMay814794: I knew it!
BlazinBaby 03: HOW?
MMay814794: You didn't know where the 4th of July came from
BlazinBaby 03: Ooooo i c" 7/4/2K in an AOL Chat Room

"MMay814794: dude, my dog just came out of the closet
Batman9636: He's gay?
MMay814794: no no, she likes to lay in the closet in the computer room"
7/4/2K

"Robzilla12: I'm stalking Rushing
Batman9636: KooL
Robzilla12: Bitch owes me money :P
Batman9636: how much?
Robzilla12: 10 c's." 8/6/2K

"Big Hort: who would you rather bang? Pato, Blottie, yourself, or Birm?
Batman9636: Myself
Batman9636: I'm damn sexy
Big Hort: Agreed." 8/8/2K


"He's permanently drunk, Lane. Thus, he's _always_ looking for a fight." Chris
West on N.E.W.'s SNS on 8/13/2K about Higor Rosa

"<Danny_Van_Halen> You're higgy the niggy..
<Danny_Van_Halen> Does that make me..
<Danny_Van_Halen> KooK the GooK?" 8/20/2K on IRC

"<Sixty-Watt-Shaman> ILL KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!
*** Soze has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
*** RyanZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
*** Y2Jase has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
<Al_Koholic> WTG Scamp
<Sixty-Watt-Shaman> I took them the fuck out
<Sixty-Watt-Shaman> They ate my boomstick, bitch" 8/20/2K in IRC

"<TheOldSchoolHero> The first time ECW came to Milwaukee, my little brother was
looking up Dawn Marie's skirt.
<TheOldSchoolHero> He's 9 and is already a pimp." Jason Wnuk in IRC on 8/26/2K

"<LoPic> What do you call 135 white guys chasing a black guy?
<TheJosh> 1910.
<TheJosh> 1910?
<LoPic> Close.
<TheJosh> :(
<LoPic> The PGA Tour!" 8/30/2K in #NRG on IRC

"Big Hort: <Sucks off Higor, proving that length doesn't matter>" 8/30/2K

"<Tommy_James> WCW is like old people having sex." 8/30/2K on IRC

"* _Spiderman_ doesn't quit
<_Spiderman_> unless like
<_Spiderman_> you know
<_Spiderman_> you have my guy fuck a chicken or something
<_Spiderman_> cause that happened in LW
<_Spiderman_> LWC
<_Spiderman_> DPR fucked a chicken" 8/30/2K on IRC

"<BigHort> I'm just a bitch ass nigga . .....
<Al_Koholic> No, just a bitch" 9/1/2K on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> Juvy, you awake?
* JustinVCW slaps Juvy with a big rubber penis." 9/7/2K on IRC

"*** Danny_Van_Halen was kicked by Danny_Van_Halen (MASTURBATING TOTALLY WREAKS
OF AWESOMNESS)
* Birm points up.
<Birm> That's something virgins tell themselves." 9/7/2K on IRC

"Ninjaplex: Let's drop out of school, buy a shanty in Nebraska, and sit on
the porch and argue politics while I pick the banjo until we die.
RomanBlood: This isn't political, but okay.
Ninjaplex: Well, actually... I'm not so much into the drug part, and you
can't play banjo. :)
RomanBlood: So we have a division of labor.
Ninjaplex: Like, you don't seem quite as... pleased to be alive.
RomanBlood: Good thing I'm dead." From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"RomanBlood: Heh... yuh
cbuseeeeee: your speaking in "Joe" again
cbuseeeeee: hold
cbuseeeeee: [gets out "Drunken Idiot Southern Dictionary, Volume II]
cbuseeeeee: aight
cbuseeeeee: fire away" From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"Exotic Illuzions: I love you
RomanBlood: If you love me you'll keep coming back for more each time when
I hit you in a drunken frenzy. You won't press charges when the neighbors call
the cops. You'll work 14 hours a day and raise four kids while I squander our
money, and you'll let me put our car in the yard up on cinderblocks.
Exotic Illuzions: YEs.
Exotic Illuzions: I do love you.
Exotic Illuzions: You can have whatever you want.
Exotic Illuzions: I'll work 16 hour days to accomodate you
RomanBlood: Alright! *proceeds to hit Las with a big concrete dildo, and
stab his mother after jotting down her recipe for carrot cake.*
Exotic Illuzions: I still love you
RomanBlood: Enabler.
Exotic Illuzions: Reagitator
RomanBlood: I prefer "multiple felon" " From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"<TheJosh> I'm going to go hump the ice despenser
<TheJosh> When it starts rattling, it makes me cum.
<TheJosh> Like a fucking horse" On IRC but sent by Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"<Al_Koholic> <Birm> Jessica looks like the kinda girl I'd bang without
thinking twice
<Birm> ...?
<Birm> There's a kind of girl I'd bang without thinking twice?
<Birm> Other than "above 18", I mean?" On IRC but sent by Joe B. via email on
9/8/2K

"Lawler: "Are you guys going to do one of your patented run-ins tonight?"
Edge: "No, we're above run-ins. Tonight, we're going to do a SWERVE."
Lawler: "Swerve? What's a swerve?"
Edge: "You know how you're heading down your highway at night going 100 miles
per hour, and you see a moose, and you have to avoid hitting it?"
Lawler: "Yeah, and?"
Edge: "Well it'll be NOTHING like that!" From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"Big Hort: WHORE~!
Batman9636: I don't charge :-P
Batman9636: SLUT!
Big Hort: I do
Batman9636: Okay ... WHORE!" on 9/9/2K

"<TheEdge> heh spelled backwards is heh" 9/11/2K on IRC

"SiXxTyNyNe: Chris has just relayed to me his life story!
Batman9636: LoL, Buse?
SiXxTyNyNe: No. Blue. I am doing his biography.
Batman9636: LMAO
SiXxTyNyNe: It's only one page long, mind you, and this is it:
Batman9636: WTF for?
SiXxTyNyNe: I was born a poor black child. Growing up in the ghetto, I saw
my mother struggle everyday. She worked 11 jobs to feed me and my 9 chins
without ever complaining. I heard her cry out in pain once when she was moving
a piano by herself and dropped it on her foot. My journey to the top was filled
with peaks and valleys, highs and lows, ups and downs, fun and games, chutes,
and ladders, gin and tonics, rum and cokes, and burgers and fries. I'm not
saying it was easy, but with a lot of hard work, blood, sweat, tears, and
liquor, I have now become what they call in the e-wrestling biz... a legend!
It's a title I don't take lightly so if you ever see me on the street, just
smile, shut your mouth, and go about your merry little way!!" 9/13/2K

"<Danny_Van_Halen> Sinus' blow.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Sex is cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Porn is cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Lesbians are cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Relationships blow.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Unless.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Your relationship includes watching porn while having sex
with two lesbians." 9/14/2K on IRC

"* RonnieD cunts juvy" 9/14/2K on IRC [How is that possible?]

"<C0ckSure> I'd like to go to Hell; Satan must have a kick-ass CD collection"
Jimmy T ... 9/17/2K on IRC

"<Afghanistan> am i in the right room to talk about e-wrestling
<EMWCPrez> Probably not.
<EMWCPrez> Not if you want someone to respond anyways
<Afghanistan> im new to the game
<Afghanistan> i was recommended to come here
<J_Coles> Then get out now.
<J_Coles> Before you get sucked in and lose all traces of having a life.
<Afghanistan> ive heard its heaps of fun
<Afghanistan> i was thinking of creating a pig farmer wrestler
<J_Coles> Well, after using the description....go ahead, you sound like a gay
fuck anyways." 9/30/2K on IRC

"<EddyJacks> Nagpal's fed is going off the fed rankings
<EddyJacks> So is the LVPWA
<EddyJacks> And the UWF
<EddyJacks> I'll rank made up feds before I rank the UWF" 10/4/2K on IRC

"Bow down bitch and kiss the feet that enable thy unholy being to walk.
Remember . . . on the first day, God said, "Let there be light." However,
little did everyone know that the day before that, I said, "Let there be God."
" Ian Walsh on 10/4/2K

"<EFU_CEO> I wanna make Higor's sig
<Dougiestyle> I made it~!
<GoddamnJimmy> I made Hig's sig twice. :)
<EFU_CEO> anyone can say I puked on my dog :)
<Dougiestyle> But I really did
<EFU_CEO> I hope you bathed it afterward" 10/4/2K on IRC

"<Quad> [Two men are standing face to face. One man is with a woman who looks
suspvcisouly like a prostitute. Money is exchanged, and the woman leaves with
the second man]
<Quad> Fur trader
<Quad> [Molson drops from the sky]
<Quad> Budweiser
<Quad> Molson....Canadian for Budweiser" 10/05/2K on IRC

"<JustinVCW> But you'd have to work at Pizza Hut.
<Al_Koholic> free pizza
<JustinVCW> Nope.
<JustinVCW> Not if you aren't on break.
<Al_Koholic> its okay
<JustinVCW> And you have to lift lots of stuff.
<JustinVCW> I lift the equivilent of about 80 Chris Blues a day." 10/08/2K on
IRC

"<Rick_Stevens> Higor, I am closing in on your sig
<Rick_Stevens> just 500 more lines to go!" 10/09/2K on IRC

"Batman9636: Fuck you~!
EJ Jigga: fuck you and the horse you rode in on....
Batman9636: No, fuck you you fucken Mets fan.
EJ Jigga: Is there a "short bus" waiting for you? I'm a yankees fan,
dipshit...
Batman9636: Oh.
Batman9636: LET'S GO YANKEES~!" 10/21/2K

"<JimmyNotTre> Dan's finally correcting his grammar, eh?
<Al_Koholic> Dan, I thought you had country grammar?
<JimmyNotTre> DStevens2k: asting ringo intros now
<JimmyNotTre> DStevens2k: pasting
<JimmyNotTre> He hasn't learned a fucking thing." 10/28/2K on IRC

"*** EMWCPrez changes topic to '<Stormkind> You should pole me, Ollie.
<EddyJacks> I think I might, Rob' " 11/1/2K on IRC

"<JimmyNotTre> Dude, I bought a dildo-sized Rice Krispies treat at school
today.
<Al_Koholic> What for?
*** thinair has joined #e-wzone
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o thinair
<JimmyNotTre> I was hungry, dude!
<JimmyNotTre> And then, my friend dared me to deep throat it...
<thinair> Uhh
* thinair runs.
<Al_Koholic> Did you do it?
<thinair> So we are talking a bananna, right?
<JimmyNotTre> Fuck yeah, I did it!
<JimmyNotTre> I'm a buck richer now. =)
<Al_Koholic> Josh, I'm afraid not.
<thinair> NO!!!!
<Al_Koholic> We're talking about a dildo-sized Rice Krispies Treat.
<thinair> GOD DAMN IT JIMMY!!
<JimmyNotTre> Don't worry...
<JimmyNotTre> It was a XXL Rice Krispie Treat" 11/6/2K on IRC

"<JoelRJTen> Greetings all. How is everybody this evening?
<Zipline> You're so annoying
<Zipline> And it's not even because you're gay
<Zipline> Were you straight, I'd still hate you
<Zipline> As is, you're annoying _AND_ gay
<Zipline> Please, please spare us
<JoelRJTen> Why is that?
<Zipline> Probably because you're British
<JoelRJTen> Oh." 11/15/2K on IRC

"<jasonblake> AWP = Anal Wanking Prostitutes
<jasonblake> EMWC = Eating More is Way Cool" 12/1/2K on IRC

"<Los_Banditos> Feu, are you white?
<Feuilleton> I might be... Who's asking? Razor Ramon's best buddy from the
Puerto Rico?
<Los_Banditos> yeah
<Los_Banditos> I'm actually from Mexico
<Feuilleton> Don't tell me... You're a former member of the Nation of
Domination?
<Los_Banditos> Nope.
<Los_Banditos> Nation Of Immigration" 12/4/2K on IRC

"*** DevonCase has joined #new_chat
<DevonCase> Damnit!
<DevonCase> Forgot my coat!
*** DevonCase was kicked by LoPic (You said you never come back! LIAR!)
*** DevonCase has joined #new_chat
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o DevonCase
<Buse> Ruh roh.
* LoPic steals Mike's coat." 12/4/2K on IRC

"<Superior_One> u wanna join my fed?
<Superior_One> we have some of the best talent in ewrestling
<Superior_One> u ever hear of "Lonewolf Outlaw" Brody Hardin????
<Quad> nope, but I HAVE heard of Lone Wolf Brody Thunder
<Quad> and Outlaw JW Hardin
<Superior_One> who r they?" 12/7/2K on IRC

"<JessicaF> Higgy, I sent my thing in for MOTR.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Ummm .... okay.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> MOTR being Master Of The Ring?
<JessicaF> I guess.  LOL.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Who runs that?
<JessicaF> FUCK!
* JessicaF bitch slaps herself.
<WAOPresidente> lol Demola
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Oh, okay
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> heh
<DevonCase> Is Demola doing another MOTR?
<JessicaF> For some reason, I thought you were Nick.
* DrunkSuperSaiyan dick slaps Jess
*** JessicaF has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Whoa
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> That was a hard ass dick slap
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> It echoed
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Knocked her right off the net" 12/17/2K on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> Its weird. Blue hasn't been in here all day
<EddyJacks> He's spanking it with a thumb up his ass
<EddyJacks> So am I, but I can multitask" 12/25/2K on IRC

"<EddyJacks> Oh, Duff, I'm opening an e-fed
<EddyJacks> You need to join
<UnderDog> do I?
<EddyJacks> I'll be closing it tomorrow, so you can add the acronym to your
'feds list' " 12/26/2K on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> FPD?
<NativeAmericanPsycho> It's a black thing.
<EMWCPrez> Like KFC?" 2/27/2K1 on IRC

"Drunk Vegita: loser
SensouSam: Cuntface.
Drunk Vegita: I am what I eat
Drunk Vegita: Cockhead
SensouSam: I am what I suck." 5/23/2K1

"<PigFat> and like you go to gayparties and you see the best chicks there
<Birm> That would be annoying.
<Birm> "Hey would you like to..."
<Birm> "I'm gay."
<Birm> "What's your-"
<Birm> "Sorry. I'm with her." Dateless, but on IRC

" <Tim_Sanders> I gave up drinking everyone@!!
<_Gremlin_> Stop lying.
<Tim_Sanders> Gave up drinking... cheep beer" Dateless, on IRC

"<TheEdge> Why did they get rid of Nickserv/Chanserv?
<Al_Koholic> the service is down
<Al_Koholic> Nickserv and Chanserv are out on a date
<Quad> They're tag teaming jinxi
<Quad> <ChanServ> You like that, don't you bitch?
<Quad> <jinxi> give it to me hard :>
<Quad> <NickServ> Dude, what the fuck? When am I gonna get some action?
<Quad> <jinxi> I got your action right here, boyo. GO DOWN!" 3/2/2K2 on IRC

"<Tommy_James> Have you ever made chicken wings from scratch?
<Buse> I have
<GLCWMack> Nope
<Tommy_James> Like, you have to buy the wings, and they're generally in three
pieces.
<Buse> Right
<Buse> I just buy the giant bag...but yeah...
<Tommy_James> And, in order to seperate them (and throw out the useless wing
tip), you have to bend them backwards to seperate the bones.
<Buse> Ermm....you didn't buy a pre-sorted bag?
<Tommy_James> And they make this nasty sound of bone snapping and the sloshing
of the meat and blood.
<UpstartKING> Ah, I love that sound.
<Tommy_James> That's what I think fucking Christina Aguilera would sound like."
7/22/2K2 on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> I'll have to call and order me some pussy
*** TheEdge has joined #e-wrestling
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o TheEdge
<Buse> You asked for it...you got it!
<SatinSheets> Joe Malloy always delivers.
<TheEdge> :( " 7/22/2K2 on IRC

"INC 00 Bu ST Ed: You need more shit to add to your sig, you cocksucker

Auto response from Drunk Vegita: I'm doing something more important than
wasting my time online. I'll get back to you when I return if I get a chance
to.

INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you and your message.
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Doing something more important than wasting your time online,
eh?
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Done." 8/1/2K2

Mat Findlay

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On 26 Aug 2002 03:49:53 GMT, blot...@aol.commie (Blottieb) wrote:


>Oh, and just for my personal amusement, I'll shoot a big, wide, gaping hole in
>your logic. If Chris Buse, Joe Birmingham, and Mat Findlay (legend that he is)

Actually, to be honest, it's not me... It's the magic chick attracting
shirt... I'm just lucky enough to be able to wear it from time to
time... And such a shirt really doesn't help with e-wrestling, so...
All that legendary stuff is... Well, a mute point, I guess.

Mat Findlay
"It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful"
-Anton Szandor LaVey

John Armstrong

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:20:10 AM8/26/02
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big...@aol.comeBlowMe (Brendan Fucking Horton) wrote in message news:<20020825172954...@mb-cp.aol.com>...


> Actually Nick and I co-created our characters, and weren't sure whether we'd
> have them tag or feud ... and I'd reconsider our applications, with <giggles>
> Chris Page on your roster.
>
> THA AMERICAN RAGE~!~!
>
> If this is the same one from DA$' GPW ...
>
> (I await a John Armstrong comment here ...)
>

Now why in the world would you expect a comment from me here?

Chris Page was _the_ GPW World Champion. Don't forget that. Ever.

John
- He's American Made

otd5

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Aug 26, 2002, 12:57:48 PM8/26/02
to
Ok Jizzy is it? I just sat back and laughed at how long people would have
a a cyber jack off session to WLW and its characters. While that is not my
cup of tea I must come in and interject since you decided to insult my
character. The fact of the matter is this you an tell nothing by a wrestler
by his name if that was the case Dusty Rhodes (Roads) or Kane the Undertaker
would not have become the larger than life superstars they are today. There
is a reason that "Jumpin" Joey Maggs fared less than "Jumping" Jim Brunzell.
Talent, Push, and Exposure. So before you go insulting character names
with the highly revered name of Jizzy or Jamesy- Poo. I would first read
some roleplays by these characters or even hey create your own character and
compete against them. Giving your pesos on something you know nothing about
is just as silly as YOUR name. Mark ditch these clowns lets focus on
putting WLW on the map.

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Mark Rosendorf

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Greg Roberts wrote:
>
> > > At the risk of dog-piling, I've gotta agree with your assessment of
> Chris
> > > Page.
> >
> > Well, I'm sure you could understand, Greg, if I choose NOT to go in with
> > a snob's attitude and give everyone the same opportunity to succeed or
> > fallin the WLW.
>
> It's your fed, you can do what you wish. My previous post was not an an
> opinion of you or your fed, but rather my opinion of Chris Page.
>

And that's the point. I'm not blackballing anyone. Chris Page, in my
book, starts with no past rep, with no black marks on his record, with
no strikes against him. That isn't fair towards anyone or part of the
fun e-wrestling is supposed to be about. Nope, I don't play it that way.

> > Being the legend that you are, I'm sure each and every federation you
> > join gives you more then fair opportunity while others never get that
> > chance.
>
> Besides the fact that this has nothing to do with my original post, I have
> to ask... what is a "more than fair opportunity"? I think I know what you
> are implying, but I want you to explain it to me before I respond.
>

Chris Page joins a fed and everyone points at him, saying "Oh, he did
bad here, he did bad there, etc. etc. thus he never gets a chance to
prove himself. He's already walking in towards doom. Hwe could write the
next coming of Shakespeare, and it'll never truly be given a chance.

You enter a fed, they're thrilled to have you because you have a
reputation following you. You could write dog shit and it'll at least
get a semblence of respect.

I'm not taking anything away from you, Greg, or your abilities. You get
an opportunity, it's your rping abilities and talent that gets you the
win, the title, the push, etc...but the fact is, you get that
opportunity.

And that's what I'm giving everyone in the WLW, the same opportunity to
"take the ball and run", so to speak. How they did on a supercard or in
another fed isn't relevent to whether they win or lose in the WLW. As of
now, roleplaying has begun...strats are due on the 4th. Now it's up to
each and every individual handler.

> > The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
> > fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
> > here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
> > without influence from outside sources.
> >
> > As all feds should be, at least in my view.
>
> With all due respect, Mark, this is wrong. Fedheads that reject certain
> handlers or characters based on their previous experiences with those
> handlers or characters aren't being "snobs", Mark, they're trying to build
> the fed that they want to run. In other words, the past is very > relevant.


Not always. Some talent gets lost in the shuffle because they don't get
the chance to shine. Afterall, every single fed can sign Brody Thunder,
Chris Courtade, and even Ken Curtis but to me, it's more fun to make
superstars and give guys that aren't as well known a chance to stand out
and become superstars...as opposed to bringing in guys that are already
there.

For example - if the WLW got Alex Martinez and Martinez comes in and
produces great work and goes on a great run...well gee, who would
really be surprised by this? Martinez could pretty much go to any fed
and end up becoming the key player.

On the other hand, does anyone here know of Brian Young, The American
Dreams, Ryan Valtorro or Will Geddings? Or even Joshua Barnes and Carl
Lumski??

All of these names above can easily become a federation superstar...all
they need is a fair chance to succeed. If they fail, they fail. If they
succeed, the fed succeeds with them. Perhaps even a name on the roster
not mentioned above can step up...point is, the opportunity is there to
make a WLW superstar, not bring in already established superstars.

As far as Chris Page is concerned, he'll have that same opportunity, and
how he did at Wrestlebowl II won't effect how he does now. Just as it
didn't effect his scoring at Wrestlebowl IV...which, I might add, he did
quite well in.

Frankly, I don't find this to be a recipe for failure.

That was my only point, Greg, no disrespect was meant towards you in
anyway whatsoever :)

Mark

Jason Howard

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Aug 26, 2002, 1:42:42 PM8/26/02
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>Subject: Re: WLW Central

You know... there's a positive to all of this Mark. You know you're doing
something right when 3/4ths of RSPWF tries to rain on your parade. If they
truly felt that your fed is as "shitty" as they claimed, they'd just let it
collapse on it's own.

I guess what I'm saying, is keep up the good work.

Jase

Josh O.

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Aug 26, 2002, 2:22:17 PM8/26/02
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>About 5 minutes, and it was pooring here yesterday :-), in New York.

Pooring, you say?

How does that work?

--
Josh
- Revenge! I've waited along time. It's my chance to jump all over a simple
typo! :)

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 26, 2002, 2:36:56 PM8/26/02
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Not bad for a fed that hasn't even put out it's first card yet, huh
Jase? :-)

Mark

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 26, 2002, 2:42:39 PM8/26/02
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>>About 5 minutes, and it was pooring here yesterday :-), in New York.
>
>Pooring, you say?
>
>How does that work?

<Cries>

- Brendan Horton ... foiled again

Al Koholic

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Aug 26, 2002, 2:59:28 PM8/26/02
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>Ok Jizzy is it? I just sat back and laughed at how long people would have
>a a cyber jack off session to WLW and its characters. While that is not my
>cup of tea I must come in and interject since you decided to insult my
>character. The fact of the matter is this you an tell nothing by a wrestler
>by his name if that was the case Dusty Rhodes (Roads) or Kane the Undertaker
>would not have become the larger than life superstars they are today. There
>is a reason that "Jumpin" Joey Maggs fared less than "Jumping" Jim Brunzell.
>Talent, Push, and Exposure. So before you go insulting character names
>with the highly revered name of Jizzy or Jamesy- Poo. I would first read
>some roleplays by these characters or even hey create your own character and
>compete against them. Giving your pesos on something you know nothing about
>is just as silly as YOUR name. Mark ditch these clowns lets focus on
>putting WLW on the map.

Jimmy, I think you pushed someone's buttons just a tad bif too much. Did I
miss something here?

Jizzy

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:05:08 PM8/26/02
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Uh-oh, I think I unleashed hell.

jimmy

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TheJacksonFive

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:08:39 PM8/26/02
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There's a map?! Why have I not been told! Oh and by the way, gentlemen and
women of rspwf.. let me introduce you to my newest character who will try to
make it in WLW..

"Super Deluxe Untouchable" THE L33T RANGER!!!!!!

G-Money
-Reinventing E-W.

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TheJacksonFive

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:13:08 PM8/26/02
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Since when did rspwf ever let things collapse on it's own? Get with the
times already.

G-Money
-Sarcastic to a fault.

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Al Koholic

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:23:22 PM8/26/02
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Hey Jase, remember when there was a whole bandwagon of people making fun of
EMWC and Chris Blue for a reason beyond their own knowledge? It used to be a
frequent subject in #RSPWF and even on this newsgroup itself. You were one of
the people who most ripped on EMWC and Blue. I was always around, even though
I never really said anything myself because I chose to not jump the bandwagon
because some people who had "a problem" with Blue decided to take care of
things on their own.


But I'm happy to see that you've matured and stopped hopping on the bandwaggon
when it comes around, you lightweight pussy!

Duff

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:37:56 PM8/26/02
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Mike Emery

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:12:18 PM8/26/02
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No one is saying you shouldn't give people a chance. But you're looking at it
entirely wrong.

If Joe Schome asks if he can join WLW and despite you not knowing him or never
hearing of him, you give him an App to join - that is great. You are taking a
chance on a completely unknown character. If you do that, then you should be
applauded for taking a chance most Fedhead's today don't.

But that isn't what everyone is saying at all. Everyone is pointing out to you
that half of your roster is complied of whiners, plagiarists, and all around
assholes. These people are NOT unknown. They are very much KNOWN and for bad
things. I don't know about you but if you heard a certain someone was a
rapist/child molester, would you have them babysit your kids or would you "give
them a chance" because they need money in their pocket?

A bit drastic of an example? Maybe.

But it makes sense.

- Mike E.

Jason Howard

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:13:10 PM8/26/02
to
>It used to be a
>frequent subject in #RSPWF and even on this newsgroup itself. You were one
>of
>the people who most ripped on EMWC and Blue.

I'm sure I still have any logs, of _anytime_ I was ever in #RSPWF which proves
this to be totally false. Although, I'll let you lie all you want to.

What would be the fun in history, if we each didn't get to put our own little
bullshit spin on it, eh?

Jase

Mike Emery

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:14:11 PM8/26/02
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>But I'm happy to see that you've matured and stopped hopping on the
>bandwaggon
>when it comes around, you lightweight pussy!

LMAO ... you jus' got fucking ripped.

- Mike E.

Duff

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:16:36 PM8/26/02
to

> rapist/child molester, would you have them babysit your kids or would you
"give
> them a chance" because they need money in their pocket?


But.. but.. but.. I like kids!

He Stole My Shoe

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:20:59 PM8/26/02
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>On second thought, I could use a crappy jobber based on having
>absolutely zero ability...sure you don't want to send in an app for
>Brendan Blade??

Blade r0x0rs yo b0x0rs.

I have confidence in saying that he'll win Most Underrated at the Year-Ends.
Why? Because I'll spa-- err, I have faith in him!

Maz
*PAW, foo'.

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:29:20 PM8/26/02
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Mike Emery wrote:
>
> If Joe Schome asks if he can join WLW and despite you not knowing him or never
> hearing of him, you give him an App to join - that is great. You are taking a
> chance on a completely unknown character. If you do that, then you should be
> applauded for taking a chance most Fedhead's today don't.


Which is what I'm doing here. So we're in agreement :)

>
> But that isn't what everyone is saying at all. Everyone is pointing out to you
> that half of your roster is complied of whiners, plagiarists, and all around
> assholes.

LOL!!! Like who?? One person said that, with no proof, no backing and no
reason other then to post negative propaganda.

There is not one single "asshole" on this roster...and for the record,
most of these guys I've already worked with during previous
Wrestlebowls. Based on others who competed in Wrestlebowls, I catagorize
these guys as "The Non-Complainers" because none of them bitched,
moaned, whined or acted like assholes before, during or after the
events.

> These people are NOT unknown. They are very much KNOWN and for bad
> things. I don't know about you but if you heard a certain someone was a
> rapist/child molester, would you have them babysit your kids or would you "give
> them a chance" because they need money in their pocket?
>

Who in this roster fits that description, Mike? Or are you simply taking
the word of whoever posted that nonsense in the first place??

Mark

Blottieb

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:28:54 PM8/26/02
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>Duff
>..loved by millions.
>
>

... loathed by women.

Brian J. Blottie
-OH! YOU CAN'T EVEN MEET A GIRL! YOU BEEN 0wn3d!

Duff

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:32:14 PM8/26/02
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>
> Brian J. Blottie
> -OH! YOU CAN'T EVEN MEET A GIRL! YOU BEEN 0wn3d!


Not only do you suck at the internet, but you need to keep your dipshit
opinions to yourself.

Mike Emery

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:40:09 PM8/26/02
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>Who in this roster fits that description, Mike? Or are you simply taking
>the word of whoever posted that nonsense in the first place??
>

Considering I was the first to actually mention it, yeah I do that person's
word.

>LOL!!! Like who?? One person said that, with no proof, no backing and no
>reason other then to post negative propaganda.
>

Unfortunately, I can't provide proof. Sorry that I didn't make track records
of every handler I've ever dealt with because one day they might join your Fed
and you need to be enlightened as to what type of handler they are.

Chris Page is a plagiarist. Plain and simple. He plagiarized in the GWC/MPW
Tourney where he fought my character, James Morgan, in the finals. [BRAG: I
WON! WOO!] Regardless, no one knew of it, I did because I knew the handler he
plagiarized. And then in my Fed, WRX, he plagiarized a very, very good friend
of mine. When I called him on it, he "disappeared." I've dealt with the kid.
I know of him. So don't think I'm just blindly following the leader because
someone said he is a piece of shit. I know first hand he is a piece of shit.

Let's see who else we have ...

Joshua Barnes. His name is Mike. He's also handled Sony. His old SN used to
be SonyF...@aol.com. Go ahead, ask him about it Mark. I know the kid.
Hell, ask Chuck Poleschuk who lurks on this group. The kid got so mad at Chuck
because he lost a match he spammed Chuck's e-mail with porn. But hey, if you
don't want to take my word for it - don't. You'll probably enjoy thousands of
gay porn mails.

And then we have "The Untouchable 2Pac Wannabe/Flake/Liar/Cheat/Unoriginal
Piece of shit" TrU aka CaBaL aka Adam "I'm a cry baby." Here's a quick tip,
Mark. Don't book TrU against anyone if he is going to lose. TrU is a "tru OG
from the muthafuckin' streets, he don't lose to no one." Yeah, have fun with
that one.

Anyone else I'm missing? You just throw 'em at me, I'll chop 'em down. This
is fun.

- Mike E.
This basement is cozy ... I could get used to this.

Blottieb

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:42:49 PM8/26/02
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>There is not one single "asshole" on this roster

Waitaminute...

You said you'd give _everyone_ a chance to join WLW. Not just those people
you've worked with on Wrestlebowl. Not just those people who've never called
you a "poo-poo head". You said _everyone_.

So... instead of basing your judgement on talent, quality of the application,
and quality of the work presented to you, you're basing your judgement on who
wasn't an "asshole" to you?

Funky ideals. We personally only accept those people into PAW who either we
know put out good work, or put in a good sample roleplay that impresses us
enough to gain them a spot on the roster. But I've never heard of the "only
people who've never made fun of me may apply" rule. Nice way to judge, Mark.

[Thumbs up.]

I'm sure the WLW will be a real "kicking" fed.

Brian J. Blottie
-Rock You Like A Hurricane

Blottieb

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:44:38 PM8/26/02
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>Not only do you suck at the internet, but you need to keep your dipshit
>opinions to yourself.
>

It's true... I suck at the internet.

[Weeps.]

Someone teach me to be good!

And my opinions aren't dipshit. My opinions are valid! My dad told me so when
we went for the walk in the park!

Brian J. Blottie
-Just being an asshole.

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 26, 2002, 5:17:37 PM8/26/02
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Mike Emery wrote:
>
> >Who in this roster fits that description, Mike? Or are you simply taking
> >the word of whoever posted that nonsense in the first place??
> >
>
> Considering I was the first to actually mention it, yeah I do that person's
> word.

Good, I like to speak directly with the people who make the accusations.
Sorry for not remembering who posted what :)


> Chris Page is a plagiarist. Plain and simple. He plagiarized in the GWC/MPW
> Tourney where he fought my character, James Morgan, in the finals. [BRAG: I
> WON! WOO!] Regardless, no one knew of it, I did because I knew the handler he
> plagiarized.

I've worked with Page in the past, in Wrestlebowls, and I've never had a
bad experience with him. I'm not taking away from your own experience
with him, I'm not doubting it, but I must also ask...how long ago was
that? I'm sure if we look deep enough, we all have skeletons from one
point or another.

>
> Joshua Barnes. His name is Mike. He's also handled Sony. His old SN used to
> be SonyF...@aol.com.

<<Rest snipped>>


Wrong guy, Mike. Barnes' handler is not SonyFreak :) IN fact, the
handler happens to be a well-respected handler in E-wrestling.


> And then we have "The Untouchable 2Pac Wannabe/Flake/Liar/Cheat/Unoriginal
> Piece of shit" TrU aka CaBaL aka Adam "I'm a cry baby." Here's a quick tip,
> Mark. Don't book TrU against anyone if he is going to lose.

Well, I don't know him, I don't know the handler, I'm just now getting
to know the character. Therefore, I'm going to give him a chance. If I
find that you were right, if I get a hard time over a legit loss, or
whatever, I'll deal with him...but I won't can him now for things that
he hasn't done to me yet. Fair enough??

Anyone else on my roster you have dirty laundry to air about? :)

As I said, everyone gets their shot. What they do with it is up to them.
If they have fun, more power to them. If they do some of what you
suggested, then I have legit reasons to deal with them. But For now,
clean slate. It's the WLW...and the 26+ guys on my roster all have a
chance to rise or fall however they wish.

If they do "Bitch, moan, whine" about losses, etc, and it ends with them
leaving the fed or being fired, well, it's not because they didn't get a
fair shake.

Fair enough?

Mark

Mark Rosendorf

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Blottieb wrote:
>
> >There is not one single "asshole" on this roster
>
> Waitaminute...
>
> You said you'd give _everyone_ a chance to join WLW. Not just those people
> you've worked with on Wrestlebowl. Not just those people who've never called
> you a "poo-poo head". You said _everyone_.

Is that what I said? Maybe you should re-read all the previous posts
Blottie, before you come out here and sound stupid :)


>
> So... instead of basing your judgement on talent, quality of the application,
> and quality of the work presented to you, you're basing your judgement on who
> wasn't an "asshole" to you?

I don't recall saying this, Blottie. Again, re-read what was said and in
what context before you chime in again, okay?

Mark

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 26, 2002, 5:18:56 PM8/26/02
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>Who in this roster fits that description, Mike? Or are you simply taking
>the word of whoever posted that nonsense in the first place??
>
>Mark

I already said, Chris Page, and I'll stand by that. Handler wasn't a bad guy,
but the character was sub-par. You can ask anybody else who was in GPW (Nick,
Armstrong, Ian ...) and they will agree, I'm sure. Shit, John already did.
That was awhile ago, granted, so maybe the character has progressed.

So get off your fuckin cross and go run your federation, ace. Cause either way
it's your word vs. mine, and that isn't going to go anywhere either.

- Brendan Horton ... got a fair chance in WLW

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 26, 2002, 5:22:13 PM8/26/02
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>- Mike E.
>This basement is cozy ... I could get used to this.

Much better than talking to girls Mike, muuuuuch better.

Let's just agree to disagree, ok?

Ahh, fuck it, it's a mute point anyway.

- Brendan Horton ... fiending

Blottieb

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Aug 26, 2002, 5:59:31 PM8/26/02
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>Is that what I said? Maybe you should re-read all the previous posts
>Blottie, before you come out here and sound stupid :)

Ahem, and I quote...

<<The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
without influence from outside sources.>>

Now then... what's happened in the past has no relevancy? Well, then, you
wouldn't have any problems accepting someone who happened to be an asshole to
you in the past, as long as the character was solid, well-thought out, and
talented.

But then you go on to state...

<<There is not one single "asshole" on this roster...and for the record,
most of these guys I've already worked with during previous
Wrestlebowls. Based on others who competed in Wrestlebowls, I catagorize
these guys as "The Non-Complainers" because none of them bitched,
moaned, whined or acted like assholes before, during or after the
events.>>

So now the WLW is for "Non-Complainers", and for those people who never acted
like assholes?

So... I don't think I sound stupid. I think I'm being reasonable here. You
say anyone, regardless of their past, can come into WLW with a clean slate.
You then go on to state that you don't want assholes, or complainers. How you
could tell a person was an asshole or a complainer without judging their past
is beyond me...

>I don't recall saying this, Blottie. Again, re-read what was said and in
>what context before you chime in again, okay?

Well, you didn't _state_ that exact fact, but the way you stated your opinion
on the matter, it sure did seem like assholes and whiners were the only people
you wouldn't accept. And after a quick look at your roster, it certainly seems
that way.

I don't mean to bust your balls, Mark. I really have nothing against you in
particular. But you _do_ need to start stating your facts in a more concise
way, you _do_ need to stop using words that you don't know the meaning of just
so you can use the "big words", and you _do_ need to start taking people's
criticisms of you and reflecting them back. Some of them are just criticisms,
whether they be masked by hate or not.

In other words... take a look in the mirror, and try to change what you can
change, yourself, instead of trying to convince the world that you're
impeccable and they must all be halfwits for thinking otherwise.

Brian J. Blottie
-Doesn't hate Mark... doesn't like Mark. Just doesn't care.

David Garcia

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"Greg Roberts" <frankg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<v5fa9.83128
>
> [Page stares into the camera...]
>
> Page: JUST IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, I'M AMERICAN RAGE CHRIS PAGE,
> AND I'M GONNA KICK SEVERAL DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF ASS AT WRESTLEBOWL!!!
>
> You get the picture... :(
>
> Greg


Wow...

someone else stole one of my flashes!!!

Dave

Nick LoPiccolo

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Aug 26, 2002, 6:35:20 PM8/26/02
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I know I said I'd stay out of this, but I'm a habitual liar and couldn't
resist.

>Chris Page joins a fed and everyone points at him, saying "Oh, he did
>bad here, he did bad there, etc. etc. thus he never gets a chance to
>prove himself. He's already walking in towards doom. Hwe could write the
>next coming of Shakespeare, and it'll never truly be given a chance.

If Chris Page wrote the next coming of Shakespeare it would only probably be
because it _was_ Shakespeare and he plagiarized it.

Mark Rosendorf

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Aug 26, 2002, 6:55:07 PM8/26/02
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Blottieb wrote:
>
> In other words... take a look in the mirror, and try to change what you can
> change, yourself, instead of trying to convince the world that you're
> impeccable and they must all be halfwits for thinking otherwise.
>

Keep in mind, Blottie, you don't know me or anything about me except
what you get off of this newsgroup..and that's not very important.

With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
newsgroup can say that? Certainly not many of the ones who are trying to
bring me, and the WLW down, because if they were content with
themselves, they wouldn't need to compensate by bringing others down.
But thanks for sharing your advice.

Mark

wallie desruisseaux

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Aug 26, 2002, 7:09:50 PM8/26/02
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> >
> > But that isn't what everyone is saying at all. Everyone is pointing out
to you
> > that half of your roster is complied of whiners, plagiarists, and all
around
> > assholes.
>
> LOL!!! Like who?? One person said that, with no proof, no backing and no
> reason other then to post negative propaganda.
>


How about Aroku Murakami? His handler working under the false pseudonym of
Matt Saunders, handling Nightmare in GWC/MPW and utterly plagarizing my work
with November. And no, it isn't one person. Ask Andj or Justin or Kiz or
Jimmy or many others.

So yeah.. they do exist... but hey, no black marks when they come into your
fed, right?


Mike Emery

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Aug 26, 2002, 7:11:28 PM8/26/02
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>Much better than talking to girls Mike, muuuuuch better.
>
>Let's just agree to disagree, ok?
>
>Ahh, fuck it, it's a mute point anyway.
>
>- Brendan Horton ... fiending

Touche, touche.

- Mike E.

Mark Rosendorf

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Mike Emery wrote:
>
> Touche, touche.
>
> - Mike E.

And here I was trying to have an intelligent conversation with you,
Mike...but I guess speaking intelligently isn't as impressive to your
friends as acting like an asshole, huh?

Well, whatever works for you, man.

Mark

Mike Emery

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Let me just say this ... I have no personal beef with Mark Rosendorf
whatsoever. I don't know the guy well enough to make a very accurate judgement
of him. But if I judge by what I have seen [Fair enough, no?] I would say he
uses words he doesn't fully comprehend the meaning of, has a weak grasp on the
english language, thinks he is as close to perfect as you can get, and tries
starting random quarrels with people for the sake of ... well, nothing. Again
- that is just me going by what I have seen.

Now, with that said ... Mark I have no reason to just bash your roster. Trust
me, I have better things to do. Somehow, someway I kicked, clawed, and bit my
way out of this basement, out of obscurity into the light [sunlight] and into
society. Along that journey I managed to find a girlfriend, a job, and a few
friends. [Gasp!] I know, I know ... it's a lot to take in, afterall I do
e-wrestle.

You can do whatever you want with your roster. It's great you're giving
everyone a clean slate. That is awesome. Deal with the problems as they come.
That is fine. It's your Fed, you do whatever you want. I wish you the best
of luck with it. Don't mistake my attention concerning your roster for a
desire to join your Fed/see it fold. Please, ... you're not that important.
And I don't mean that in a negative manner. I just don't know you enough to
fucking care.

So, in plain ... do what you want. I was just trying to give you a head's up
on things. Why? I don't know, because it's lonely in this basement ... and
all I need is a friend.

I'm so lonely ... ohhh, so lonely..

- Mike E.

Greg Roberts

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> Chris Page joins a fed and everyone points at him, saying "Oh, he did
> bad here, he did bad there, etc. etc. thus he never gets a chance to
> prove himself. He's already walking in towards doom. Hwe could write the
> next coming of Shakespeare, and it'll never truly be given a chance.
>
> You enter a fed, they're thrilled to have you because you have a
> reputation following you. You could write dog shit and it'll at least
> get a semblence of respect.

Any fedhead that says "everyone is equal" is either naive or lying, Mark.
Everyone is not equal. You let Chris Page into your fed, by your own
admission later in this post, because you think he's a good character. The
only way to have everyone start on a level playing field is if you don't
know any of them from Adam, but that is not true. It just so happens that
your experiences with page have been good, and others have been bad. But
don't say that your experiences with him did not play into your decision to
accept him into your fed.

> I'm not taking anything away from you, Greg, or your abilities. You get
> an opportunity, it's your rping abilities and talent that gets you the
> win, the title, the push, etc...but the fact is, you get that
> opportunity.

I get that opportunity because of my reputation and the way fedheads feel
about me, just as you've given Chris Page an opportunity in your fed based
on your experiences with him. You're not doing anything any other fedhead
wouldn't do, Mark.

> > With all due respect, Mark, this is wrong. Fedheads that reject certain
> > handlers or characters based on their previous experiences with those
> > handlers or characters aren't being "snobs", Mark, they're trying to
build
> > the fed that they want to run. In other words, the past is very >
relevant.
>
> Not always. Some talent gets lost in the shuffle because they don't get
> the chance to shine. Afterall, every single fed can sign Brody Thunder,
> Chris Courtade, and even Ken Curtis but to me, it's more fun to make
> superstars and give guys that aren't as well known a chance to stand out
> and become superstars...as opposed to bringing in guys that are already
> there.

Then why accept Chris Page? The guy's been around for a while, and he
already has a reputation.

> As far as Chris Page is concerned, he'll have that same opportunity, and
> how he did at Wrestlebowl II won't effect how he does now. Just as it
> didn't effect his scoring at Wrestlebowl IV...which, I might add, he did
> quite well in.

Here is where I see hypocrisy, Mark. You talk of making superstars and not
giving the past any relevance, but you feel the need to bring up Page's past
in your defense of him. You chide other fedheads for "signing superstars"
and yet, you do that with your signing of Page. Do you see my point?

> That was my only point, Greg, no disrespect was meant towards you in
> anyway whatsoever :)

None was taken. And while it may seem that I'm jumping on you with both
feet, it's only because I, for some reason, feel the need to tell someone
when I think theyr're full of shit. Not always, Mark, but on this issue I
think you are.

Greg


Greg Roberts

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> >prove himself. He's already walking in towards doom. Hwe could write the
> >next coming of Shakespeare, and it'll never truly be given a chance.
>
> If Chris Page wrote the next coming of Shakespeare it would only probably
be
> because it _was_ Shakespeare and he plagiarized it.

LMAO!!!

I don't know anything about Page's alleged plagiarism, but this was one
damned funny line.

Greg


Jizzy

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"Jason Howard" <jah...@aol.comNOJUNK> wrote in message
news:20020826161310...@mb-bg.aol.com...

>
> What would be the fun in history, if we each didn't get to put our own
little
> bullshit spin on it, eh?
>
> Jase

Goddamn right. I wish there was more bullshit in history classes so I
could've stayed awake.

j


Jizzy

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Oop, someone touched a nerve.

Touche.

j

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Mark Rosendorf

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Greg Roberts wrote:

> Any fedhead that says "everyone is equal" is either naive or lying, Mark.

Right now, I'm running a tournament through the first four cards for the
vacant WLW World Title. To be quite honest, I don't have a winner
pre-picked. It's going to be who earns it based on the opinion of myself
and Bobby Whioux, my tag team partner in the WLW. (fyi, I'm not running
the fed by myself, he deserves just as much credit).

So yes, at this point, everyone is equal...until they prove who deserves
to be treated better then others, so to speak.

> Everyone is not equal. You let Chris Page into your fed, by your own
> admission later in this post, because you think he's a good character. The
> only way to have everyone start on a level playing field is if you don't
> know any of them from Adam, but that is not true. It just so happens that
> your experiences with page have been good, and others have been bad. But
> don't say that your experiences with him did not play into your decision to
> accept him into your fed.
>

He was let in, just as others I know were, just as some I don't know
from Adam I let in. And yes, that's a fair statement. It was an open
door policy right from the beginning.

>
> I get that opportunity because of my reputation and the way fedheads feel
> about me, just as you've given Chris Page an opportunity in your fed based
> on your experiences with him. You're not doing anything any other fedhead
> wouldn't do, Mark.
>

There are plenty on that roster, Greg, that I didn't know until this
week. That's a fact. How are their situations different from Page's? All
are currently in the fed and trying to become the first ever champion.

Now, am I going to bring anyone in the fed that I have previous issues
with? No, that would be stupid, right? Why give myself a headache?

On the other hand, I'm not going to blackball someone because they had
issues with someone else. Why would I? Let him make his reputation with
me..and if the same thing happens, then it's mine to deal with.

>
> Then why accept Chris Page? The guy's been around for a while, and he
> already has a reputation.

Why not? Are you saying he should be blackballed from every single fed
out there? Isn' the idea of this game that we have fun? Why should we
not let him play ball with us because he pissed off another group in
another town a very long time ago??

>
> > As far as Chris Page is concerned, he'll have that same opportunity, and
> > how he did at Wrestlebowl II won't effect how he does now. Just as it
> > didn't effect his scoring at Wrestlebowl IV...which, I might add, he did
> > quite well in.
>
> Here is where I see hypocrisy, Mark. You talk of making superstars and not
> giving the past any relevance, but you feel the need to bring up Page's past
> in your defense of him.

HUH??? Greg...everyone else brought up his past. I only pointed out that
I've had dealings with Page in the past and never experienced the same
thing. But what's the hypocrisy here??

Would the correct answer have been "Oh, he's a real asshole. Okay, I'm
firing him immediately". No, it wouldn't be.

>You chide other fedheads for "signing superstars"

Wrong again, I never criticised any fed for signing superstars!! Big
feds like the EMWC and the UWF, by all means, sign the superstars. The
ONLY thing I said was that's not the motif I'm looking for with the WLW.

How you saw that as a criticism of other feds is beyond me...but
anyways...

> and yet, you do that with your signing of Page. Do you see my point?
>

So now he IS a superstar, Greg? Earlier you said he was horrible, now
he's a superstar. Which is it?? :)

But I see you missed my point completely...or you're just pretending to
in order to change the argument.


> > That was my only point, Greg, no disrespect was meant towards you in
> > anyway whatsoever :)
>
> None was taken. And while it may seem that I'm jumping on you with both
> feet, it's only because I, for some reason, feel the need to tell someone
> when I think theyr're full of shit. Not always, Mark, but on this issue I
> think you are.
>

Only because, again, I was mistaken...much like Blottie thought I said I
was only signing people that I liked from the past!!

But here's how I saw this discussion went, tell me where I'M wrong:

You say "Page stinks, he has a reputation"

I say "I've never had problems with him, but I'm not blackballing him
over past reputation, he deserves a shot as does everyone else who
normally doesn't get one".

You say "If you sign people who stink, your fed will fall."

I say "I'm not looking for superstars, we're going to make superstars."

And now you respond with "You chastise other feds for taking superstars
then you take Chris Page because you knew him. What a hypocrite, you're
full of shit".

Sorry Greg, but not this time. I know what I said, and I don't believe
you mis-read it. So take that for what it's worth :)

Mark

> Greg

Brendan Fucking Horton

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>Why? I don't know, because it's lonely in this basement ... and
>all I need is a friend.
>
>I'm so lonely ... ohhh, so lonely..
>
>- Mike E.

Well, since we're such great friends and all ... we can share the internet,
although we're in different basements, we share that common bond. And that's
what friendship's all about.

- Brendan Horton ... is an asshole

Brendan Fucking Horton

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Aug 26, 2002, 8:06:23 PM8/26/02
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>So yes, at this point, everyone is equal...until they prove who deserves
>to be treated better then others, so to speak.

Then why wasn't Antonio Touche accepted? I filled out the application in full,
and wasn't given my 'fair shake'. Did you even send it to Bobby, and let him
give his opinion on it, or is this more of a dictatorship, you big mean bad
guy, you?

Or, if you really wanna get into the fun stuff, what about Brendan Blade? You
know, the shitfed jobber who is based on having no talent ... since you've read
so much of his work ... in UEW and of course Wrestlebowl.

Your dick probably doesn't get a fair shake after you take a leak, clown.

- Brendan Horton ... shakin' it

Duff

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I got nothing but love for you Blottie.

CanadianAM21

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buzzz, wrong. Find another scapegoat Wallie because I was done being it when
you tried to blame me last month.....

Greg Roberts

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For sake of space and time, I'm not going to argue any of the points you
tried to make in the part of the post I snipped, Mark. You are obviously
missing my point. I'll try to explain it below...

> But here's how I saw this discussion went, tell me where I'M wrong:
>
> You say "Page stinks, he has a reputation"

No. I said "When I worked with Page, I thought he stunk". Remember this?

"At the risk of dog-piling, I've gotta agree with your assessment of Chris
Page. I did a thing with him at WB a few years back, and he was God-awful."

> I say "I've never had problems with him, but I'm not blackballing him
> over past reputation, he deserves a shot as does everyone else who
> normally doesn't get one".

You didn't say that originally, Mark. You said (in so many words) that the
past had no bearing on your decisions as to who was accepted into your fed.
Remember this?

"The WLW is for those talents to show what THEY can do, given ample and
fair opportunity. What's happened in the past has no relevancy
here...only how they do from this point on within the walls of the WLW
without influence from outside sources."

> You say "If you sign people who stink, your fed will fall."

Never said that, Mark. Remember this?

"Now, if you want to give a guy a chance to step up and improve, then so be
it. But to say that a handler's past work should not be taken into
consideration when determining whether to accept that handler into your fed
is to set yourself for failure, IMHO."

You twisted that into "If you sign people who stink, your fed will fall",
did you not?

> I say "I'm not looking for superstars, we're going to make superstars."

Yes, I believe you did say something like that. However, you also said that
how they did in the past had no relevance. Remember this?

"And that's what I'm giving everyone in the WLW, the same opportunity to
"take the ball and run", so to speak. How they did on a supercard or in
another fed isn't relevent to whether they win or lose in the WLW. As of
now, roleplaying has begun...strats are due on the 4th. Now it's up to
each and every individual handler."

But then you defended Chris Page with this statement. Remember?

"As far as Chris Page is concerned, he'll have that same opportunity, and
how he did at Wrestlebowl II won't effect how he does now. Just as it
didn't effect his scoring at Wrestlebowl IV...which, I might add, he did
quite well in."

Clearly a reference to the past... _your_ past with Chris Page.

> And now you respond with "You chastise other feds for taking superstars
> then you take Chris Page because you knew him. What a hypocrite, you're
> full of shit".

That is correct. That was your implication (and that's what it was, Mark)
when you said you're going to make your own stars instead of signing
established stars. And when I said you were a hypocrite by signing Page, I
sure as hell didn't mean that he was a superstar. I meant that he was
recognizable to you and established, and that he had history with you.

> Sorry Greg, but not this time. I know what I said, and I don't believe
> you mis-read it. So take that for what it's worth :)

I believe I read it quite correctly, Mark.

Greg


Al Koholic

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>Goddamn right. I wish there was more bullshit in history classes so I
>could've stayed awake.
>

Why do you care? You passed history class anyway, did you not? I would also
like to step forward and admit to sleeping through history class and still
passing it.

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Exotic Illuzions: Reagitator
RomanBlood: I prefer "multiple felon" " From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"<TheJosh> I'm going to go hump the ice despenser
<TheJosh> When it starts rattling, it makes me cum.
<TheJosh> Like a fucking horse" On IRC but sent by Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"<Al_Koholic> <Birm> Jessica looks like the kinda girl I'd bang without
thinking twice
<Birm> ...?
<Birm> There's a kind of girl I'd bang without thinking twice?
<Birm> Other than "above 18", I mean?" On IRC but sent by Joe B. via email on
9/8/2K

"Lawler: "Are you guys going to do one of your patented run-ins tonight?"
Edge: "No, we're above run-ins. Tonight, we're going to do a SWERVE."
Lawler: "Swerve? What's a swerve?"
Edge: "You know how you're heading down your highway at night going 100 miles
per hour, and you see a moose, and you have to avoid hitting it?"
Lawler: "Yeah, and?"
Edge: "Well it'll be NOTHING like that!" From Joe B. via email on 9/8/2K

"Big Hort: WHORE~!
Batman9636: I don't charge :-P
Batman9636: SLUT!
Big Hort: I do
Batman9636: Okay ... WHORE!" on 9/9/2K

"<TheEdge> heh spelled backwards is heh" 9/11/2K on IRC

"SiXxTyNyNe: Chris has just relayed to me his life story!
Batman9636: LoL, Buse?
SiXxTyNyNe: No. Blue. I am doing his biography.
Batman9636: LMAO
SiXxTyNyNe: It's only one page long, mind you, and this is it:
Batman9636: WTF for?
SiXxTyNyNe: I was born a poor black child. Growing up in the ghetto, I saw
my mother struggle everyday. She worked 11 jobs to feed me and my 9 chins
without ever complaining. I heard her cry out in pain once when she was moving
a piano by herself and dropped it on her foot. My journey to the top was filled
with peaks and valleys, highs and lows, ups and downs, fun and games, chutes,
and ladders, gin and tonics, rum and cokes, and burgers and fries. I'm not
saying it was easy, but with a lot of hard work, blood, sweat, tears, and
liquor, I have now become what they call in the e-wrestling biz... a legend!
It's a title I don't take lightly so if you ever see me on the street, just
smile, shut your mouth, and go about your merry little way!!" 9/13/2K

"<Danny_Van_Halen> Sinus' blow.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Sex is cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Porn is cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Lesbians are cool.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Relationships blow.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Unless.
<Danny_Van_Halen> Your relationship includes watching porn while having sex
with two lesbians." 9/14/2K on IRC

"* RonnieD cunts juvy" 9/14/2K on IRC [How is that possible?]

"<C0ckSure> I'd like to go to Hell; Satan must have a kick-ass CD collection"
Jimmy T ... 9/17/2K on IRC

"<Afghanistan> am i in the right room to talk about e-wrestling
<EMWCPrez> Probably not.
<EMWCPrez> Not if you want someone to respond anyways
<Afghanistan> im new to the game
<Afghanistan> i was recommended to come here
<J_Coles> Then get out now.
<J_Coles> Before you get sucked in and lose all traces of having a life.
<Afghanistan> ive heard its heaps of fun
<Afghanistan> i was thinking of creating a pig farmer wrestler
<J_Coles> Well, after using the description....go ahead, you sound like a gay
fuck anyways." 9/30/2K on IRC

"<EddyJacks> Nagpal's fed is going off the fed rankings
<EddyJacks> So is the LVPWA
<EddyJacks> And the UWF
<EddyJacks> I'll rank made up feds before I rank the UWF" 10/4/2K on IRC

"Bow down bitch and kiss the feet that enable thy unholy being to walk.
Remember . . . on the first day, God said, "Let there be light." However,
little did everyone know that the day before that, I said, "Let there be God."
" Ian Walsh on 10/4/2K

"<EFU_CEO> I wanna make Higor's sig
<Dougiestyle> I made it~!
<GoddamnJimmy> I made Hig's sig twice. :)
<EFU_CEO> anyone can say I puked on my dog :)
<Dougiestyle> But I really did
<EFU_CEO> I hope you bathed it afterward" 10/4/2K on IRC

"<Quad> [Two men are standing face to face. One man is with a woman who looks
suspvcisouly like a prostitute. Money is exchanged, and the woman leaves with
the second man]
<Quad> Fur trader
<Quad> [Molson drops from the sky]
<Quad> Budweiser
<Quad> Molson....Canadian for Budweiser" 10/05/2K on IRC

"<JustinVCW> But you'd have to work at Pizza Hut.
<Al_Koholic> free pizza
<JustinVCW> Nope.
<JustinVCW> Not if you aren't on break.
<Al_Koholic> its okay
<JustinVCW> And you have to lift lots of stuff.
<JustinVCW> I lift the equivilent of about 80 Chris Blues a day." 10/08/2K on
IRC

"<Rick_Stevens> Higor, I am closing in on your sig
<Rick_Stevens> just 500 more lines to go!" 10/09/2K on IRC

"Batman9636: Fuck you~!
EJ Jigga: fuck you and the horse you rode in on....
Batman9636: No, fuck you you fucken Mets fan.
EJ Jigga: Is there a "short bus" waiting for you? I'm a yankees fan,
dipshit...
Batman9636: Oh.
Batman9636: LET'S GO YANKEES~!" 10/21/2K

"<JimmyNotTre> Dan's finally correcting his grammar, eh?
<Al_Koholic> Dan, I thought you had country grammar?
<JimmyNotTre> DStevens2k: asting ringo intros now
<JimmyNotTre> DStevens2k: pasting
<JimmyNotTre> He hasn't learned a fucking thing." 10/28/2K on IRC

"*** EMWCPrez changes topic to '<Stormkind> You should pole me, Ollie.
<EddyJacks> I think I might, Rob' " 11/1/2K on IRC

"<JimmyNotTre> Dude, I bought a dildo-sized Rice Krispies treat at school
today.
<Al_Koholic> What for?
*** thinair has joined #e-wzone
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o thinair
<JimmyNotTre> I was hungry, dude!
<JimmyNotTre> And then, my friend dared me to deep throat it...
<thinair> Uhh
* thinair runs.
<Al_Koholic> Did you do it?
<thinair> So we are talking a bananna, right?
<JimmyNotTre> Fuck yeah, I did it!
<JimmyNotTre> I'm a buck richer now. =)
<Al_Koholic> Josh, I'm afraid not.
<thinair> NO!!!!
<Al_Koholic> We're talking about a dildo-sized Rice Krispies Treat.
<thinair> GOD DAMN IT JIMMY!!
<JimmyNotTre> Don't worry...
<JimmyNotTre> It was a XXL Rice Krispie Treat" 11/6/2K on IRC

"<JoelRJTen> Greetings all. How is everybody this evening?
<Zipline> You're so annoying
<Zipline> And it's not even because you're gay
<Zipline> Were you straight, I'd still hate you
<Zipline> As is, you're annoying _AND_ gay
<Zipline> Please, please spare us
<JoelRJTen> Why is that?
<Zipline> Probably because you're British
<JoelRJTen> Oh." 11/15/2K on IRC

"<jasonblake> AWP = Anal Wanking Prostitutes
<jasonblake> EMWC = Eating More is Way Cool" 12/1/2K on IRC

"<Los_Banditos> Feu, are you white?
<Feuilleton> I might be... Who's asking? Razor Ramon's best buddy from the
Puerto Rico?
<Los_Banditos> yeah
<Los_Banditos> I'm actually from Mexico
<Feuilleton> Don't tell me... You're a former member of the Nation of
Domination?
<Los_Banditos> Nope.
<Los_Banditos> Nation Of Immigration" 12/4/2K on IRC

"*** DevonCase has joined #new_chat
<DevonCase> Damnit!
<DevonCase> Forgot my coat!
*** DevonCase was kicked by LoPic (You said you never come back! LIAR!)
*** DevonCase has joined #new_chat
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o DevonCase
<Buse> Ruh roh.
* LoPic steals Mike's coat." 12/4/2K on IRC

"<Superior_One> u wanna join my fed?
<Superior_One> we have some of the best talent in ewrestling
<Superior_One> u ever hear of "Lonewolf Outlaw" Brody Hardin????
<Quad> nope, but I HAVE heard of Lone Wolf Brody Thunder
<Quad> and Outlaw JW Hardin
<Superior_One> who r they?" 12/7/2K on IRC

"<JessicaF> Higgy, I sent my thing in for MOTR.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Ummm .... okay.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> MOTR being Master Of The Ring?
<JessicaF> I guess.  LOL.
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Who runs that?
<JessicaF> FUCK!
* JessicaF bitch slaps herself.
<WAOPresidente> lol Demola
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Oh, okay
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> heh
<DevonCase> Is Demola doing another MOTR?
<JessicaF> For some reason, I thought you were Nick.
* DrunkSuperSaiyan dick slaps Jess
*** JessicaF has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Whoa
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> That was a hard ass dick slap
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> It echoed
<DrunkSuperSaiyan> Knocked her right off the net" 12/17/2K on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> Its weird. Blue hasn't been in here all day
<EddyJacks> He's spanking it with a thumb up his ass
<EddyJacks> So am I, but I can multitask" 12/25/2K on IRC

"<EddyJacks> Oh, Duff, I'm opening an e-fed
<EddyJacks> You need to join
<UnderDog> do I?
<EddyJacks> I'll be closing it tomorrow, so you can add the acronym to your
'feds list' " 12/26/2K on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> FPD?
<NativeAmericanPsycho> It's a black thing.
<EMWCPrez> Like KFC?" 2/27/2K1 on IRC

"Drunk Vegita: loser
SensouSam: Cuntface.
Drunk Vegita: I am what I eat
Drunk Vegita: Cockhead
SensouSam: I am what I suck." 5/23/2K1

"<PigFat> and like you go to gayparties and you see the best chicks there
<Birm> That would be annoying.
<Birm> "Hey would you like to..."
<Birm> "I'm gay."
<Birm> "What's your-"
<Birm> "Sorry. I'm with her." Dateless, but on IRC

" <Tim_Sanders> I gave up drinking everyone@!!
<_Gremlin_> Stop lying.
<Tim_Sanders> Gave up drinking... cheep beer" Dateless, on IRC

"<TheEdge> Why did they get rid of Nickserv/Chanserv?
<Al_Koholic> the service is down
<Al_Koholic> Nickserv and Chanserv are out on a date
<Quad> They're tag teaming jinxi
<Quad> <ChanServ> You like that, don't you bitch?
<Quad> <jinxi> give it to me hard :>
<Quad> <NickServ> Dude, what the fuck? When am I gonna get some action?
<Quad> <jinxi> I got your action right here, boyo. GO DOWN!" 3/2/2K2 on IRC

"<Tommy_James> Have you ever made chicken wings from scratch?
<Buse> I have
<GLCWMack> Nope
<Tommy_James> Like, you have to buy the wings, and they're generally in three
pieces.
<Buse> Right
<Buse> I just buy the giant bag...but yeah...
<Tommy_James> And, in order to seperate them (and throw out the useless wing
tip), you have to bend them backwards to seperate the bones.
<Buse> Ermm....you didn't buy a pre-sorted bag?
<Tommy_James> And they make this nasty sound of bone snapping and the sloshing
of the meat and blood.
<UpstartKING> Ah, I love that sound.
<Tommy_James> That's what I think fucking Christina Aguilera would sound like."
7/22/2K2 on IRC

"<Al_Koholic> I'll have to call and order me some pussy
*** TheEdge has joined #e-wrestling
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o TheEdge
<Buse> You asked for it...you got it!
<SatinSheets> Joe Malloy always delivers.
<TheEdge> :( " 7/22/2K2 on IRC

"INC 00 Bu ST Ed: You need more shit to add to your sig, you cocksucker

Auto response from Drunk Vegita: I'm doing something more important than
wasting my time online. I'll get back to you when I return if I get a chance
to.

INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you and your message.
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Doing something more important than wasting your time online,
eh?
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Fuck you!
INC 00 Bu ST Ed: Done." 8/1/2K2

Jason Howard

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:25:36 PM8/26/02
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>Don't mistake my attention concerning your roster for a
>desire to join your Fed/see it fold. Please, ... you're not that important.

So, slamming the "WLW" name, because there's a real life indy named that, was
also just to help Mark. You might wish to e-mail or post where the fedheads of
GLCW/RCW/UWF/WWO etc... can see it, because they need the same head's up.

>And I don't mean that in a negative manner. I just don't know you enough to
>fucking care.

See, if I felt like going back and qouting posts and this and that... I'd say
something like "if you don't fucking care"... then why the fuck even bother
posting exhibit A or exhibit B?

Then again, that'd only make sense to me. I'm sure you have some reasoning as
to why you wouldn't care, but march on anyways.

Jase

Jason Howard

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:38:06 PM8/26/02
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>Pick any of the following, Jase:

All of those pics were actually, quite funny. Although, the only "teh funnay"
Higor brought to the table, was a warped recollection of history. Even in my
_own_ IRC room, I never discussed EMWC/Blue. Never. Ever. I've never mentioned
them in any discussion, to be quite honest... except on here.

And... during my visits to RSPWF/E-Wrestling, when people would try to bait
attacks out of me, I'd just ignore them. My favorite had to be "Blue is so fat,
he wears a tent... right Jase?"

God love em... they tried.

I'd post the logs, but the fact remains, that Higor and anyone else who wants
to, can claim and/or beleive what they want -- because at the end of the day,
it's all just history.

History that I've let go. I don't give a shit what was said about me, to me,
about me from 6 months ago. I also, don't care about what I said.

If someone wants to carry that baggage... or better yet, totally make it up?

That's on them. All them.

Jase

Mat Findlay

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:40:22 PM8/26/02
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:55:07 GMT, Mark Rosendorf
<mark...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
>with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
>newsgroup can say that?

I can... I'm a hottie.

Mat Findlay
"It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful"
-Anton Szandor LaVey

Jizzy

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Aug 26, 2002, 11:04:17 PM8/26/02
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Just an observation... I love how a lot of "serious" posts like this look
like RPs nowadays. :-)

j

"Jason Howard" <jah...@aol.comNOJUNK> wrote in message

news:20020826223806...@mb-co.aol.com...

RSE Corporate Whore

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Aug 26, 2002, 11:47:43 PM8/26/02
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> Keep in mind, Blottie, you don't know me or anything about me except
> what you get off of this newsgroup..and that's not very important.

...

> With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
> with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
> newsgroup can say that? Certainly not many of the ones who are trying to
> bring me, and the WLW down, because if they were content with
> themselves, they wouldn't need to compensate by bringing others down.
> But thanks for sharing your advice.

...

[Mute point appears courtesy of Mr. Blottie.]

Do you even READ the posts? Honestly... you just skim through, hoping
the point is made at the end, right?

The last paragraph was a conclusion, not a summary. Read and reply to
the WHOLE post. Because some of us have no bias towards you, but are
just trying valiently to point out a few obvious points that, if
fixed, would make your arguments against the people actually bashing
you seem a little more focused and a little less contradictory.

Cause, to me, this looks like another subject change to avoid the bulk
of Blottie's message. A message which had quite a few valid points in
it, and was as restrained and unbiased as Blottie is humanly capable
of being.

All we're saying is, read the posts yourself. And stick to a solid,
singular stance on matters. Either your fed is for everyone, or your
fed is for people who fit within your qualifications. I have no
problems stating that I wouldn't allow a known plagarist into my fed,
under the reasoning that I want people looking for fun and
entertaining angles, not victories. If you'd just come out and state
"I won't allow people I consider assholes into my fed, under the
reasoning that I simply don't want to deal with the fucking
headaches", then people would respect you more than they do for
claiming you're unbiased and don't care about the past, then a few
posts later claiming that you want a roster full of "Non-Complainers".

My argument is more valid, cause I don't bend on it. Yours comes off
like a sack of shit, because you change it depending on your mood.

OK now, final paragraph, better summarize... READ THE POSTS YOURSELF.
Stop being so goddamn hypocritical, get over your ego, and realize
that other people might be right... even if only on occasion.

"KrazyAce" Jerod Story
* Trying desperately to convince himself that Mark's not trying to
iceskate up a hill...
President of Old-School Wrestling
http://www.rocksolidcorp.com/osw/
Handler of:
- Fire and Ice (WWO, UEW, PAW)
- Chris Walker (GWC/MPW, Sky's the Limit Jr Tourney)
- Cow and Chicken (BSCW)

OFFICIAL COW AND CHICKEN MARKS:
===============================
1. Frank Demola

QOTW:
"My vote goes to Cow and Chicken. With such quotes as: "Eet more
chiken." "Moo."
and... uhhhh. Something else. Add that with Chickencanranas and big
beefy splashes, and you have a revamped, renewed and rejuvinated EMWC
Tag Team Division."
- Frank Demola, becoming the first-ever OFFICIAL C&C mark.

"It's not Stone's fault."
- Jeremy S., when asked for a humorous quote.

"eet mor chiken."
- "Da Cow God" Moo... Sadly, the most over catchphrase in BSCW. :)

"'Cuz when it comes down to it, we're all just a bunch of D&D, comic
books, video game, horror movie geeks pretending to be guys rolling
around in their underwear."
- Richard Vail, on why e-w gets him so damn horny.

"Some of the EMWC guys have noticed Colton now. I told them not only
where they could go, and how fast the trip would be, but which
websites could get them the cheapest fares."
- Mitch Worthington, pissing off half the Empire in one fell swoop.

"The moral of the story is.. ah, fuck it. Drink beer, bang women, and
bash internet games and start an interstellar war without lifting a
finger."
- Mitch, apologizing.

"Rich was wondering about all the late cards, and I told him if there
weren't any late cards, we'd all go mad and start killing people
randomly."
- Don Cameron, finally unveiling the REAL reason for late cards.

"Did I mention just how much I loathe your continued existance today?"
- Dave "Picky" Olvera, showing how much he cares.

"***Commish- so this one looks over folks and 1... 2... but what
the hell what is This now a huge looking cow is coming to the ring
Crow and Tom: A WHAT?
***Commish- it explodes blood everwhere
Crow: EXPLODING COWS! This is the BEST wrestling match in the
history of the world!"
- http://www.geocities.com/bobwrestling/iad_main.html, covering the
Match from HELL~!

TheJacksonFive

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:12:54 AM8/27/02
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C'mon Dave.. after losing to VD Vitrone in PAW.. I don't think anyone will
ever wanna steal your flashes again!!!

G-Money
-ZING! :)

"David Garcia" <master...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:174635cd.02082...@posting.google.com...

Cowman

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:16:37 AM8/27/02
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>Frank Demola, becoming the first-ever OFFICIAL C&C mark.

What?!

Do _not_ make me bitchslap the both of you.

The first ever C&C mark?

/me points to himself, RVD-style.

Me, baby.

_Me_.

[Fade.]

Rich
BSCW - http://efeduniverse.com/bscw

Handles:

Hannibal Carver [NEO, GLCW, GWC/MPW]
Odin Trollslayer [Retired]

"I pretty much pissed my pants 12 times, shit myself and then rolled in it as I
cried like a mother giving birth" - Walls

* Wall gives Frank a playful shake of the head in a loving 'no' and keeps
sauntering about all sexy like.

Mike Emery

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:28:59 AM8/27/02
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>And here I was trying to have an intelligent conversation with you,
>Mike...but I guess speaking intelligently isn't as impressive to your
>friends as acting like an asshole, huh?

Okay, I believe what I said to Hort had absolutely _nothing_ to do with you.
Was I talking to you? No. Did I mention you? No. Not at all.

I was merely conceding to Hort he made a damned fine point. That was it. I
lost the battle of wits with him when he so nicely pointed out ...

>Much better than talking to girls Mike, >muuuuuch better.
>
>Let's just agree to disagree, ok?
>
>Ahh, fuck it, it's a mute point anyway.
>
>- Brendan Horton ... fiending

That is why I said touche. He brought up a rather good point that I had no
real comeback to. Hence, ... "touche."

Satisfied?

- Mike E.
Let the intelligent conversation continue

Mike Emery

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:34:02 AM8/27/02
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>So, slamming the "WLW" name, because there's a real life indy named that, was
>also just to help Mark.

You bet your nosey little ass it is. I figured I'd tell him before anyone
decided to give him a hard time about it. Just trying to help. And oh, by the
way, I've already spoken to the Fedheads of GLCW/RCW/UWF/WWO. That is the main
reason RCW folded. They couldn't come up with a new name so they said, ahh
fuck it.

>See, if I felt like going back and qouting posts and this and that... I'd say
>something like "if you don't fucking care"... then why the fuck even bother
>posting exhibit A or exhibit B?

I love how you manage to remember what it is convenient to remember. I said I
don't fucking care about Mark Rosendorf because I don't really know him that
well. Go back, bitch boy. Read what I said and then you will realize ... you
jus' got 0W33D!!!

Whacha know 'bout it?!

- Mike E.
You Got Another Thing Comin...

Mike Emery

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:35:56 AM8/27/02
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> I love how a lot of "serious" posts like this look
>like RPs nowadays. :-)

You sweat RPing, loser.

Get out of your fucking basement.

- Mike E.
Geek

TheJacksonFive

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:51:26 AM8/27/02
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This is like watching retarded children box.

G-Money
-Just, wow.

"Brendan Fucking Horton" <big...@aol.comeBlowMe> wrote in message
news:20020825225728...@mb-mc.aol.com...
> >And how long were you sitting in YOUR basement writing up that
> >application towards nothing again, Brendan??
> >
>
> About 5 minutes, and it was pooring here yesterday :-), in New York.
>
> >I mean...can you be more pathetic, there, kid?
>
> Sure, I mean, I could be you.
>
> *rimshot*
>
> >Loser.
>
> TOUCHE~!~! That's it, I don't have to take this anymore. I'm telling my
mom
> ... once she comes down to the basement ...
>
> - Brendan Horton


Jason Howard

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Aug 27, 2002, 1:23:55 AM8/27/02
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Before I begin... this is my last post in this thread entirely [as far as the
flame portion of it]. It's certainly not worth any more time... because it's so
fucking stupid.

You jackasses -- and yes, I'm talking about the ones posting in this thread --
haven't changed, and will never change.

Not sure if it's something in the water, or if you all were just born with some
mental affliction that causes you to be so hostile against things that really,
don't even concern you.

I'm sure you get some sense of pride in slamming a fed or handlers that have
nothing to do with you -- but trust me, for most of us? That type of shit died
out in the 6th grade... when most of us developed some sense of
self-confidence, where we don't have to belittle others amongst our groovy
crowds just to "be cool" or "fit in".

And spout all the bullshit you want, that you're not trying to "be cool".
You're not going to convince anyone with half a fucking brain and a partial
stance, that isn't the case.

But if you must derive your self-confidence from an internet crowd, you must...

>I love how you manage to remember what it is convenient to remember. I said
>I
>don't fucking care about Mark Rosendorf because I don't really know him that
>well.

"Mark I have no reason to just bash your roster. Trust


me, I have better things to do."

You know how I read that? You don't care. About his fed, no less. That does say
roster and "better things to do" right? I know things I have "better things to
do, than" I typically, don't care about.

"You can do whatever you want with your roster."

You know how I read that? You don't care. That does say "whatever" and "your
roster" right? Yet this entire thread, you've bashed the way he's handled his
roster... his roster, and his fed.

"Don't mistake my attention concerning your roster for a
desire to join your Fed/see it fold. Please, ... you're not that important."

Read that statement.

What does his fed closing and _him_ being unimportant have to do with each
other... unless one doesn't matter, because the other doesn't?

And if you're so g'damn apathetic towards him -- and thusly, his fed you "don't
wish to see close or join", then still.

Why even bother with your stupid fucking flames?

Are you just ignorant... or dense?

Or a combination of both?

Truly... either fess up and admit you _do_ fucking care about his fed, or stop
posting period. You sitting there posting 10 posts in the thread attacking his
fed suggest that you _do_ care, so either fucking admit that, or step.

Sheesh.

>Go back, bitch boy.

Ah yes. True thugs talk shit through a keyboard. Coming from someone who's such
a stickler on fed names and shit being unoriginal, you'd think you'd come up
with something better than "bitch boy."

That's so overused.

Gonna call me a fucktard next? Playground taunts so f'n rule.

>Read what I said and then you will realize ... you
>jus' got 0W33D!!!

Sure I did. But you see, I don't care.

WHAT?

Yeah, I don't care.

WHAT?

I just typed this post... because I don't care.

WHAT?

I'm arguing with you, because I don't care about the argument.

WHAT?

Apathetically [the theme of the monent] yours,
Jase

Get Grand

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>Sweet fucking Jesus, Mark.
>
>Brendan and I were going to feud. We would have put WLW on the map. It
>would
>have been "Mute Point" Antonio Touche vs. "Neo-Jogger" Frank Illuminati.
>
>Now I'll have to leave the basement, talk to a girl, or worse yet, kiss one.
>I
>hear they have coodies.
>
>I can see the conversation on one of those jogs through the park now.
>
>"Son, leave those girls alone. Private parts are called private because
>they're supposed to remain _private._"
>
>"OK, Dad. I thought Joe Birmingham had something to do with it."
>
>"You stay in the basement, you hear me?"
>
>Ahh, I could go on, but I won't.
>
>Nick

I'll add in the swirve:

Frank Illuminati gets cancer mid-way through the feud.

--
* Friggin' melo drama genius

Al Koholic

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Aug 27, 2002, 1:42:48 AM8/27/02
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>That is why I said touche. He brought up a rather good point that I had no
>real comeback to. Hence, ... "touche."
>
>Satisfied?
>
>- Mike E.
>Let the intelligent conversation continue

Only problem is the lack of someone to have an intelligent conversation with.
Not many around on this board to begin with. Take your intelligence elsewhere,
boi'! :-P

Al Koholic

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>Before I begin... this is my last post in this thread entirely [as far as the
>flame portion of it]. It's certainly not worth any more time... because it's
>so
>fucking stupid.
>
>You jackasses -- and yes, I'm talking about the ones posting in this thread
>--
>haven't changed, and will never change.


So this is one big flame war, eh? I was completely unaware of that! Other
than the fact that you didn't hop on any bandwaggon this time, you really
didn't change at all either. You still talk out of your ass and try to get
into shit without knowing fully what the fuck is going on. And did you just
call yourself a jackass as well? You didn't really need to do that as I'm sure
that most people read these "flame wars" have already figured that much.


>Not sure if it's something in the water, or if you all were just born with
>some
>mental affliction that causes you to be so hostile against things that
>really,
>don't even concern you.


I know I mentioned this before, but ..... Is this coming from the same Jason
Howard who jumped aboard the "Bash Chris Blue and EMWC" bandwaggon to trash as
much as possible, even though neither Chris Blue or his EMWC had absolutely
nothing to do with you? The irony.


>I'm sure you get some sense of pride in slamming a fed or handlers that have
>nothing to do with you -- but trust me, for most of us?


Slamming feds that have nothing to do with you is fun, but of course you should
already know that.


>That type of shit died
>out in the 6th grade... when most of us developed some sense of
>self-confidence, where we don't have to belittle others amongst our groovy
>crowds just to "be cool" or "fit in".
>


Let's see, so that makes you an 8th grader since you jumped out of the EMWC
trashing bandwaggon about 2 years ago or so, right? Some people must do what
it takes to "fit in" but again I don't know why I'm telling you this as you
went through it for some time.


>And spout all the bullshit you want, that you're not trying to "be cool".
>You're not going to convince anyone with half a fucking brain and a partial
>stance, that isn't the case.
>But if you must derive your self-confidence from an internet crowd, you
>must...


Then what the fuck is the case? You just fucking talked about it, so now it's
no longer the fucking case? If you don't want it to be the case, don't fucking
mention it.

I won't even go over the rest of your post. Not that I have anything better to
do, I just don't fucking feel like it. And Being that you're not posting
anymore, [having to do with the flame part of this post anyway] then there's no
other points I need to make, that's if I made any. Leave your basement, nobody
missed you.

Get Grand

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Aug 27, 2002, 2:02:58 AM8/27/02
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>Blottieb wrote:
>>
>> In other words... take a look in the mirror, and try to change what you can
>> change, yourself, instead of trying to convince the world that you're
>> impeccable and they must all be halfwits for thinking otherwise.

>>
>
>Keep in mind, Blottie, you don't know me or anything about me except
>what you get off of this newsgroup..and that's not very important.
>
>With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
>with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
>newsgroup can say that? Certainly not many of the ones who are trying to
>bring me, and the WLW down, because if they were content with
>themselves, they wouldn't need to compensate by bringing others down.
>But thanks for sharing your advice.
>
>Mark


*Stomps on Mark for being counter-productive to Blottie's point*

--
Menacing little guy whose quest is the search for life.

Blottieb

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>
>>Blottieb wrote:
>>>
>>> In other words... take a look in the mirror, and try to change what you
>can
>>> change, yourself, instead of trying to convince the world that you're
>>> impeccable and they must all be halfwits for thinking otherwise.
>>>
>>
>>Keep in mind, Blottie, you don't know me or anything about me except
>>what you get off of this newsgroup..and that's not very important.
>>
>>With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
>>with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
>>newsgroup can say that? Certainly not many of the ones who are trying to
>>bring me, and the WLW down, because if they were content with
>>themselves, they wouldn't need to compensate by bringing others down.
>>But thanks for sharing your advice.
>>
>>Mark

I'm not saying you're not satisfied with what you see in the mirror. That's
inconsequential, Mark. What I'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, instead of
seeing yourself as infalliable, you realize that there are times when people
are _right_ to criticize you, that some of the things people say, not all of
the things, but some of the things actually _do_ make sense and do rightly
place you at fault.

I'll be the first to admit that you've been torn into something fierce lately,
and that some of it is just assholes being assholes. But there _are_ those
people that punch holes in your logic, call you on it when you're wrong, and
basically make you seem like a fool. This isn't _their_ fault, because they're
just calling a spade a spade. It's up to you to realize it, and fix that minor
glitch in your thinking and/or mental database.

If you use a word wrong, and are called on it? Admit it. Learn the real
meaning, slip it into your memory, and keep it there for future use. Hey, you
just learned something. You've _improved_ yourself by admitting your fault,
accepting it, and changing the prior thinking to reflect that you now know
better.

If your logic is shot all to hell, _admit_ your logic is flawed, change the
current flawed logic to a logic that's not so easily shot to pieces, and become
a better person for it.

You might be satisfied with what you see in the mirror. That doesn't mean you
can't improve yourself in the meantime. Running around in circles, disputing
things that have been proven right, and basically mouthing off for the sake of
mouthing off doesn't help your case, Mark. It makes you look like a jerk, and
just as much of an asshole as the people unnecessarily picking on you. That's
why so many people are against you. Not because it's "cool" to hate Mark
Rosendorf. But because you never admit you're wrong, even when you are.

Changing one's self isn't a hard thing. It's admitting you need to change in
order to grow as a person that's hard to do. Hopefully you'll realize this one
day, be it today or sometime in the future.

Brian J. Blottie
-Wow... an intelligent post. GOD FORBID!

Mark Rosendorf

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Blottieb wrote:
>
> I'm not saying you're not satisfied with what you see in the mirror. That's
> inconsequential, Mark. What I'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, instead of
> seeing yourself as infalliable, you realize that there are times when people
> are _right_ to criticize you, that some of the things people say, not all of
> the things, but some of the things actually _do_ make sense and do rightly
> place you at fault.
>

I do realize that, Blottie...but this is not one of them. If the people
IN my fed wish to criticize the way the fed is being run (btw, does
anyone realize I'm one of three running the place? :)), they have every
right to.

But how do the usual gang of idiots on RSPWF have a right?

I mean...if I listened to Mike Emery, i'd be firing half the roster for
being plagerists and whiny assholes...including Mike Sonby, handler of
"Crimson" Joe Reed (that case of mistaken identity he conveniently never
responded back to...will he admit HE was wrong? Probably not).


> I'll be the first to admit that you've been torn into something fierce lately,
> and that some of it is just assholes being assholes. But there _are_ those
> people that punch holes in your logic, call you on it when you're wrong, and
> basically make you seem like a fool.


Like Greg Roberts who takes two points from completely different
conversations on this post and combines them to make one point??
Unlikely. Of course, we knew from day one the second the WLW opened, it
would come under scrutiny, criticism and assholes acting like
assholes...

His whole argument against the fact that I'm not blackballing handlers
because they had trouble in other feds is that I know some of these
handlers, thus it's a mute point. (okay, granted, I'm summarizing
it...but honestly, is it even worth arguing? I'm not changing policy
based on Greg's arguments, right?)

but my answer to that...bash it, trash it, say whatever you want...just
read the cards!! :)


> This isn't _their_ fault, because they're
> just calling a spade a spade. It's up to you to realize it, and fix > that minor
> glitch in your thinking and/or mental database.

If anything, Blottie, RSPWF has proven one point to me...a person is
smart...people are stupid. I notice that the conversations I have with
some of the same people become much more civil and my points are better
understood when we talk one on one in e-mails and/or IM
conversations...because there's no peanut gallery for them to try and
impress.

>
> If you use a word wrong, and are called on it? Admit it. Learn the > real
> meaning, slip it into your memory, and keep it there for future use.

You are the biggest moron on the face of the Earth for not knowing that
Touche means to accept a point, you idiot!! Now I'm going to make fun of
you for years and years and years because it's the most important point
in the entire conversation that we've been having all this time!!!

Yeah, I'm sure this makes sense to YOU, Blottie!


> If your logic is shot all to hell, _admit_ your logic is flawed,

If that were the case. If people like you and the rest didn't search for
holes and create holes to pop into it....and over the smallest points,
with every attempt to change the argument in anyway possible.

Again, none of it matters. If the WLW fails, then you can all throw a
huge party and rejoice. I'm not doing this fed for you guys,
anyways...it's for those that are involved. And I'd bet if some of you
got off your high horses and looked at it with an OPEN MIND, you might
like what you see.

Looking at things with an open mind, you just learned something,
Blottie. Take it, use it, slip it into memory for future use. Admit you
were wrong and become a better person for it, as I have just taught you
something.

> You might be satisfied with what you see in the mirror. That doesn't > mean you
> can't improve yourself in the meantime.

Heh, the ironic thing is, in 3rd grade schoolyards, this is the logic
the group of bullies use when they attack the one helpless victim every
day, once the teacher confronts them.

> Running around in circles, disputing
> things that have been proven right, and basically mouthing off for the > sake of
> mouthing off doesn't help your case, Mark.

This is my point!! It doesn't help their cases, but because they have
numbers and all back oneanother, they accept the backwards logic that
everyone offers...because they'd never turn on each other. Of course,
I'm talking about the usual gang of idiots, as I like to call them, the
RSPWF flunkies.

But again, they have the numbers, they're all impressed with themselves
and could never admit fault in oneanother's logic.

If only RSPWF would follow your advice, albeit mis-guided due to getting
swept up into the crowd mentality, Blottie.


> It makes you look like a jerk, and
> just as much of an asshole as the people unnecessarily picking on you. That's
> why so many people are against you. Not because it's "cool" to hate Mark
> Rosendorf. But because you never admit you're wrong, even when you are.
>

Well, according to RSPWF, I'm ALWAYS wrong. Right? :)


> Changing one's self isn't a hard thing. It's admitting you need to change in
> order to grow as a person that's hard to do. Hopefully you'll realize this one
> day, be it today or sometime in the future.
>

Believe me, my intention of taking advice for my everyday life from YOU
isn't really going to happen, Blottie....especially considering you
don't know me from Adam. So save it for someone who cares.

Or perhaps follow your OWN advice sometimes. Because after hearing your
input in this conversation, I've come to the conclusion that your
federation partner, Wayne, is a hell of a lot cooler then you are. At
least he forms his own opinions on who to like and who not to.

Buse

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Aug 27, 2002, 11:48:25 AM8/27/02
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Wait, wait, wait...

Are you giving the indication that you don't believe you were wrong, Mark?

Get the _fuck_ out. That's hard forme to believe.

Buse

- Greg Roberts wishes he were a little bit o' me

Mike Emery

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:28:40 PM8/27/02
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You want to call me unoriginal, you fucking idiot? Look at your little rant.
Telling me I do this to "fit in" or "be cool." Yeah, that's real original.
I'm sure _no one_ around here has ever accused someone of doing that. Hah,
look at this Jase, I'll even borrow one of your own lines...

Pot. Kettle. Black.

How ya like me now?

I love how with you, the past can just be conveniently erased. Do you forget
when you were just some little bitch-ass troll with some XWW e-Fed that no one
gave two shits about but you spammed the group with your pointless tirades,
trying to tell people you didn't copy N.E.W.'s app. And then you go and use
Jase Russell's nickname, Jase. Am I saying he is the only Jase in the world?
No, but it's awfully odd how you were once "jason" and then all of a sudden you
became "Jase." Funny how that works, but I digress. Your nickname isn't that
important to me, it's just the whole principle of things.

I wasn't slamming Mark or WLW. I was slamming the handlers. He listed a bunch
of handlers I knew, I simply posted my opinion on the handlers. Where is the
crime in doing that? What? You've never, ever given your opinion on this
board? Hah, you've done that far too many times, most of the time sounding
like some jack-ass who doesn't have half a fucking clue, like this go round.

But whatever keeps you happy. You can throw your bullshit and original claims
at me. "You're a bully. You're just trying to be cool." You want to talk
about 6th grade shit? Look at your fucking self, slick. Keep that shit where
it belongs, 6th grade. I have some self-confidence, I don't need to rip Mark
Rosendorf or anyone else on this group to sign off-line feeling good about
myself. I think it's assholes like _you_ with some "mental affliction" who get
ripped on for being jack-asses who try and fight back by saying everyone who
pegs you for being a jack-ass [justifiably so] is some sort of bully or an
asshole trying to fit in.

C'mon, that is some weak shit.

You can't even by a fucking man about it, you have to throw bullshit sarcasm
into the picture because you know you're just talking out of your ass. Get off
your fucking cross.

- Mike E.

Nick LoPiccolo

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Aug 27, 2002, 1:08:45 PM8/27/02
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No, no, fucking no. Chris Page's handler could be legally retarded and no one
would be able to tell the difference. The beginning of this year Ian and I
were fucking around with him (because we're assholes) and whether he has
progressed or not isn't the point (he hasn't). After two or three years of
handling, Ian and I were both convinced he never learned our names, because he
kept calling us "MJV and Hunter" instead of Nick and Ian. Even after I asked
him about it. In fact, for your reading pleasure, I was able to dig up an IRC
log from January.

Albeit, a totally unrelated IRC log, but it is an IRC log nonetheless. And
it's somewhat entertaining.

<LoPic> hardk0re liek sabu
<LoPic> technikal liek malenko
<UnderDog> u can b 0nly talkin ab0ut 1 pers0n
<UnderDog> David A. $mith
* LoPic ~!
<ChrisPage> WoW
* LoPic ~!
<ChrisPage> Holy Shit DaS LIVES
<UnderDog> No
<UnderDog> Not DaS
<ChrisPage> oh
<UnderDog> Da$
<UnderDog> SAY IT RIGHT!
<ChrisPage> Da$
<ChrisPage> what the hell have you been up to
<LoPic> Da$ iz hardk0re
<UnderDog> im restarting GPW
<ChrisPage> really
<UnderDog> it will have n0 late cardz
<UnderDog> EVER!
<ChrisPage> LoL
<UnderDog> d0 u want 2 jyon?
<ChrisPage> hmmmm whats in it for me
<LoPic> World Title
<UnderDog> seX w/ h00kers
<ChrisPage> Okay I'll join
<ChrisPage> just send me the info
<UnderDog> will d0
<ChrisPage> IrishL...@aol.com is my new sn
<LoPic> u can beat adm rogerz
<UnderDog> adm rogrez sux
<ChrisPage> who can
<UnderDog> hez n0t welcum
<ChrisPage> I beat a quarter of the EMWC Roster I believe
<UnderDog> u did?
<ChrisPage> okay maybe no a quarter but I did beat 5 of them
<ChrisPage> :-)
<UnderDog> who?
<LoPic> dont questi0n him DA$
<LoPic> he iz hardk0re
<ChrisPage> man your gonna make me look at the roster I beat Rogers and MJV in
GPW
<LoPic> DA$ did u b00k that
<UnderDog> i don't remember
<ChrisPage> Eugene Robinson
<ChrisPage> November
<ChrisPage> James Marshall
* LoPic ~!
<ChrisPage> I beat Rogers a week before that tag match atS ummer Dreams, I beat
MJV for the World Title in GPW and I beat RObinson in GPW also
<LoPic> d00d that iz hardk0re i am impressed
<LoPic> what about u da$
<ChrisPage> LoL
<UnderDog> Who's James Marshall?
<ChrisPage> dont know
<UnderDog> then how do you know you beat him?
<ChrisPage> I dont know his name
<UnderDog> oh
<UnderDog> where'd u beat him then?
<ChrisPage> I just faced him in a tournament and advance and then lost
<ChrisPage> in the second round
<LoPic> UFC II?
<ChrisPage> nope
<ChrisPage> this was about a year ago
<ChrisPage> Tommy Gunn should come out of retirement for GPW
<UnderDog> i don't think u beat Marshall
<ChrisPage> I want my rematch with Gunn
<ChrisPage> why not
<LoPic> who is mjv
<ChrisPage> Madison J Valentine
<LoPic> dude u beat him two?? he r0x0rz
<UnderDog> Wait.
<UnderDog> What tournament?
<ChrisPage> what
<ChrisPage> I dont know
<ChrisPage> I cant remember everything
<UnderDog> I know I haven't entered a tourney with Marshall
<ChrisPage> I defeated a Marshall somewhere
<ChrisPage> it was about a year ago
<LoPic> may b u r thinking ab0ut adm rogerz
<ChrisPage> Nope
<ChrisPage> It might of been a different Marshall then
<LoPic> uh oh d00d
* UnderDog isn't Da$
<LoPic> WHAT?!~
<UnderDog> AH-HA!
<LoPic> SWERVE!!
<LoPic> MY GOD!! IT'S A SWERVE!!
<ChrisPage> LoL
<UnderDog> <- Duff
<UnderDog> I'm sure you remember me
*** ChrisPage has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
<UnderDog> THE FEAR~!

Nick
- Proves nothing, doesn't care.

He Stole My Shoe

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>C'mon Dave.. after losing to VD Vitrone in PAW.. I don't think anyone will
>ever wanna steal your flashes again!!!
>
>G-Money
>-ZING! :)

That's a good poin-- doh!

Maz
*Gilliland's hero.

John Armstrong

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Mark Rosendorf <mark...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3D6AB253...@worldnet.att.net>...

> With that said, keep in mind, I can look in the mirror and be VERY happy
> with what I see. No complaints here, and how many people on this
> newsgroup can say that?

Let's see...

Beautiful wife. Two beautiful daughters. Good career. Living out my
dream career with my second job.

Yep. I may be no Mat Findlay when it comes to hotti-ness or the
chick-attracting shirt, but I'm alright with that.

John
- Yes, I am old, but I'm no Mark Stone.

Jason Howard

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Aug 27, 2002, 3:27:38 PM8/27/02
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Like Henry Rollins, I'm a liar...

>Telling me I do this to "fit in" or "be cool." Yeah, that's real original.
>I'm sure _no one_ around here has ever accused someone of doing that.

It might just be unoriginal, but it's the truth. Otherwise, you wouldn't do all
the shit you do for an audience to see. You post something, try to rip someone
to shreds... and then your buddies come along and say "man, he just owned you"
or some inane bullshit.

If you really wanted to help Mark, and didn't want to say "HEY, LOOK AT ME AND
HOW IGNORANT I CAN BE WHILE ATTACKING SOMETHING THAT "I DON'T CARE ABOUT' AND
MY FRIENDS THINK IT'S REALLY NIFTY", I guess you would've sent him an e-mail,
eh?

So, float that bullshit of you not trying to "be cool" on down the line, it's
not being bought here.

>Hah,
>look at this Jase, I'll even borrow one of your own lines...
>
>Pot. Kettle. Black.

I believe I may have used that once... if even that, during the entire time
I've posted here. It's hardly "my line".

Then again, as we're soon to realize, you do have a firm grasp on history.

>I love how with you, the past can just be conveniently erased.

Ah, here we go with 2-year old shit... see, you can't carry an argument with
me, solely on who I am now -- so you have to pull up shit that's long since
gone.

It's called, sticking to what's tangible. The fact is, I don't "troll"
anymore... I leave that to guys like you. I don't "flame" people anymore, I
leave that to guys like you.

What is tangible, is that this discussion is happening right now... and you're
an idiot, you know that. However, instead of just admitting that, you choose to
revert back to two years ago -- and as much as your advice a few weeks back to
Mark was "it's history, let it go", here you sit bringing up 2-year old shit.

How lovely.

The fact is, I, much like many people have done some ignorant shit in the past.
Big flippin deal.

When I was 3, I took a bite of mud pie -- actual mud -- on a dare, and got
sicker than a dog. Does that mean now I can't tell someone how stupid it is to
do the same thing -- if they were thinking about doing it?

Does that mean that now and forever, I have to be pro-mudpie eaters... because
I was an idiot when I was 3?

If so, then maybe someone needs to dig up IRC and RSPWF logs on you... I'm sure
we can find something that has _nothing_ to do with the argument at hand, to
slap right back in your face.

Anytime you bring up an argument, no matter how right you might be, we'll just
say "yeah, well... three years ago you trolled this
www.alt.gay.sex.with.scissors.and.hotglue newsgroup... so you're just a fucking
homo."

...and if you must know, 95% of the shit I said when I was trolling, aren't
even my real beliefs. I simply said them to irritate people -- idiotic? Yes. I
was a heatseaker. What of it?

Atleast I'll admit it, unlike you.

>Do you forget
>when you were just some little bitch-ass troll with some XWW e-Fed that no
>one
>gave two shits about

Nope, I haven't forgotten that. There's a difference between dwelling on the
past, and remembering it.

I don't dwell, but I do remember.

>And then you go and use
>Jase Russell's nickname, Jase. Am I saying he is the only Jase in the world?
>
>No, but it's awfully odd how you were once "jason" and then all of a sudden
>you
>became "Jase."

Well, isn't that just more bullshit you pulled from your ass.

My first posting handle I used here, at RSPWF -- and had long before I ever
came here, was... now get this people... xwwprez_JASE_.

I have went by Jase for god know's how long... both online, and socially. I
rarely, if ever, go by Jason. It's mainly people who don't know me, that call
me by "Jason".

So, you can feel free to call me that.

>Hah, you've done that far too many times, most of the time sounding
>like some jack-ass who doesn't have half a fucking clue, like this go round.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm sure to many I'm an idiot...
and to many, I make some sense... and to the rest? Neither of us matter.

I can cope with that. Even if no one agreed with me... not a single person, it
wouldn't change my opinions in the least.

Unlike you, having the popular opinion... or even, buddying up with my friends
isn't important.

If you notice, I rag on Mark at times I disagree with him -- and I defend him
just the same. Your chums call it "bandwagon hopping"... but what it truly is?

I like to make up my own mind. I also, don't take shit personal. When Mark
clumped me in with the "basement dwelling" yadda...yadda, whatever... and
didn't particularly see eye to eye with me? I simply mocked it. I don't just
disagree with him now, on every issue because of that... and I don't slam his
fed because of that.

Only petty motherfuckers that can't take a little sugar with their coffee hold
grudges like that.

So, call it what you will... ignorance, bandwagon jumping... I just call it
being impartial.

>You can throw your bullshit and original claims
>at me. "You're a bully. You're just trying to be cool."

Yet again, if you weren't trying to be cool... you'd have no need to be so
flamboyant about it. To chatter amongst your friends about it. To have them
verbally stroke you each time you flame someone, etc...

So, why attack his roster, his fed name etc... on an open forum, while your
friends pitch in?

If you notice, I don't need anyone to say "damn Mike, you got 0|/\/n3D by
Jase"... because being "cool" or "hip" or making myself look good infront of my
friends isn't what matters. What matters, is that your entire argument is a
steaming pile of shit... ofwhich you can only defend by bringing up 2-year old,
non-related material.

There's no thread between the two, yet you keep searching for the invisible
wire.

So, seriously, who are you trying to fool?

> I have some self-confidence, I don't need to rip Mark
>Rosendorf or anyone else on this group to sign off-line feeling good about
>myself.

Let's wait for one of your buddies to say "DAYUM, MIKE, YOU RIPPED HIM". That
way, this can somewhat be true.

>who get
>ripped on for being jack-asses who try and fight back by saying everyone who
>pegs you for being a jack-ass [justifiably so] is some sort of bully or an
>asshole trying to fit in.

Bullies... nah. More like jackoff queens, that get together and share their
"little hobby" is all.

To bully me, you'd have to intimidate me... or be superior to me. Neither of
which, you are/can do.

...and while I'm at it, I'll start off your next reply.

But... two years ago... [insert reply here].

Jase

Blottieb

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>I do realize that, Blottie...but this is not one of them. If the people
>IN my fed wish to criticize the way the fed is being run (btw, does
>anyone realize I'm one of three running the place? :)), they have every
>right to.

Indeed.

>But how do the usual gang of idiots on RSPWF have a right?

Because you advertise on the board, making your application, your website, and
subsequently, your federation public domain. I don't mean to sound like a dick
here, Mark, but I think one of the _best_ things about e-wrestling is feedback,
and if you don't look into each piece of it, you might as well not be running a
fed. Now, some if it was just ridiculous. They literally were just insulting
the WLW because it was, well, the WLW. But others came forward and pointed out
past transgressions some of your handlers were involved in. Now, you may not
think that these "things" are relevant, because you're allowing them to make up
for past mistakes or you've never seen these transgressions before. And while
the first case is honorable, the second case, "because you didn't see the
transgressions", is just like me coming out and saying "I didn't see Auswitz,
so it never happened." There's a difference between rhetoric and honesty. The
problem becomes trying to seperate the two into the correct piles. You've had
_several_ men step forward and claim that the person at hand is a plagarist.
Each of them have no reason to want to demoralize or "tear down" your fed. So
if you want to let "bygones be bygones", and let the guy try his hand, so be
it. But don't claim ignorance over it because someone might be trying to put
one over on you.

>I mean...if I listened to Mike Emery, i'd be firing half the roster for
>being plagerists and whiny assholes...including Mike Sonby, handler of
>"Crimson" Joe Reed

I think he mentioned two people on your roster, and as for him mentioning
Sonby, then the case of mistaken identity _should_ be admitted to.

But if he doesn't do it, does that mean you don't admit your faults, either?
That's groupthink, Mark. And on top of it, that's groupthink with someone YOU
DON'T LIKE. "I'm not going to admit I'm wrong until _you_ admit you're wrong."
That's the thinking of a twelve year old, not a grown adult. Just admit
you're wrong... set the trend Mark.

>Like Greg Roberts who takes two points from completely different
>conversations on this post and combines them to make one point??

Greg took two points from two conversations about the thread at hand, where you
backtracked and added your revised thinking on things. He found a flaw in your
logic, and exposed it. Greg isn't an idiot, nor is he one to want to impress
anyone. I mean... he's a diehard Republican posting to a newsgroup that is
probably at least 70% liberal. Yet he doesn't back down on his views, and
stands by them no matter how much they're attacked. I don't think he's looking
to "get your goat" on this one. He's merely pointing out that your two posts,
when held against each other, contradict each other. That's it.

>Of course, we knew from day one the second the WLW opened, it
>would come under scrutiny, criticism and assholes acting like
>assholes...

I won't point out your lapse in the usage of the English language there, and
will instead concentrate on your point. If the scrutiny and criticism is
there, read it, if it's relevant, fix it. As for the assholes acting like
assholes? Ignore them, Mark. Or go along with it. Really, the best way to
make a jerk realize he's being a jerk is to agree with him.

>His whole argument against the fact that I'm not blackballing handlers
>because they had trouble in other feds is that I know some of these
>handlers, thus it's a mute point. (okay, granted, I'm summarizing
>it...but honestly, is it even worth arguing? I'm not changing policy
>based on Greg's arguments, right?)

Moot point. Mark, it's been pointed out to you a HUNDRED times that it's a
_moot_ point. This is just another example of you not absorbing the
information presented to you, and instead ignoring things that could in fact
(and should, in fact) improve you as a person.

And no one is telling you to change your policies to please Greg. But at the
very least, take into account that Greg pointed out a _flaw_, and make sure you
don't make that mistake again. That's your problem. You make the same
mistakes over and over again, even when they're pointed out to you ad nauseam.

>but my answer to that...bash it, trash it, say whatever you want...just
>read the cards!! :)

Now _that's_ the right thinking to have on your fed. That's intelligent, to
the point, and it makes sense. It's how I deal with PAW, and how all fedheads
should deal with their cards. You don't like it? Ah well. But read the
cards, and make the judgements, give me your feedback, insult me, do whatever.
Maybe some of it will be good information I can use to improve things. Maybe
some of it will just be attacks for the sake of attacks. But you read the
card, you're interested in the fed, so I win. Perfect thinking there.

>If anything, Blottie, RSPWF has proven one point to me...a person is
>smart...people are stupid. I notice that the conversations I have with
>some of the same people become much more civil and my points are better
>understood when we talk one on one in e-mails and/or IM
>conversations...because there's no peanut gallery for them to try and
>impress.

Or maybe they're the type of people that will say one thing to your face, and
will turn around and say another behind your back... or in this case, in a
large group. Or maybe, just maybe, you drop the "ignorance over substance" act
via AIM, and you actually try to talk to the person, instead of calling them
assholes, telling them to get out of their basement, and claiming that you're
better than them. Sure, sometimes the people deserve it. But I see times
where someone is trying to make a point to you, something that you should take
to heart and use to improve yourself, and you turn it on them as if they were
trying to demean you or something. That's not the case _all_ the time, Mark.

>You are the biggest moron on the face of the Earth for not knowing that
>Touche means to accept a point, you idiot!! Now I'm going to make fun of
>you for years and years and years because it's the most important point
>in the entire conversation that we've been having all this time!!!

Ignore the attack, but accept the guilt of using the word wrong. Instead of
saying "maybe you should get outside and find a girl", you should say "Yeah, I
used the word wrong. I know better now, and I'll now use it how it's meant to
be used. But that's no reason to call me names, or to assume that I'm an
idiot." The difference between a genius and an idiot? One person admits his
faults and tries to improve upon them. The other knows his faults, but refuses
to acknowledge them for fear of the other person being right.

>If that were the case. If people like you and the rest didn't search for
>holes and create holes to pop into it....and over the smallest points,
>with every attempt to change the argument in anyway possible.

Apparently, we're not searching very hard if we can find them with ease. Just
reading one of your posts reveals holes in your logic. We don't have to dig
for it. Trust me on this, I've never broken your posts down into different
parts, combing it for inconsistencies. I merely notice them upon reading. I
doubt anyone else is taking the time out of their life to do it, either. So
either you're paranoid, or you're using a scapegoat to avoid the fact that your
logic was flawed, it's been pointed out to you, and you don't want to admit
you're wrong. "Well, if you guys didn't search for holes..." If there were no
holes, we would have no reason to mention them to you, now would we?

>Again, none of it matters. If the WLW fails, then you can all throw a
>huge party and rejoice.

Trust me, I doubt anyone will care one way or another.

>I'm not doing this fed for you guys,
>anyways...it's for those that are involved.

Good.

>And I'd bet if some of you
>got off your high horses and looked at it with an OPEN MIND, you might
>like what you see.

I've seen your roster, heard the stated fact that several of the people on your
roster are plagarists, and have seen the way you've conducted yourself in the
past. So far, I don't like what I see. When you come out with your first
flash packet, and your first card, I'll read through those, and I'll give you
my honest opinion. Non-biased by "groupthink", either. Just keep the
Michinoku Armbars to a minimal, OK. ;-) And yes, right there I'm being an
asshole to be an asshole. But maybe it'll keep those ficticious moves from
appearing.

>Looking at things with an open mind, you just learned something,
>Blottie. Take it, use it, slip it into memory for future use. Admit you
>were wrong and become a better person for it, as I have just taught you
>something.

What did you just teach me? That you can completely avoid the topic of my
post, while attempting to relate everything to how prejudiced everyone is of
you? How was I wrong in any way, shape, or form in what I stated? I wasn't,
Mark. When I'm wrong, I'll admit it. There's nothing to admit here.

>Heh, the ironic thing is, in 3rd grade schoolyards, this is the logic
>the group of bullies use when they attack the one helpless victim every
>day, once the teacher confronts them.

...

Wow, you had some analytical third grade bullies in your school. What are you
_talking_ about Mark? I've _never_ had a bully say to me, after kicking my
ass, "Maybe that'll make you think about changing who you are, and improve
yourself in the meantime." They usually said "You fucking queer. You're just
a quiet little queerboy, aren't you, you pussy?"

>This is my point!! It doesn't help their cases, but because they have
>numbers and all back oneanother, they accept the backwards logic that
>everyone offers...because they'd never turn on each other.

WHO CARES ABOUT THEM, MARK?! You can't _change_ them. You can only change
_yourself_. If they wanted to change, they could only change THEMSELVES.
Everyone is _not_ going to agree with you, nor are they going to accept your
logic when it's obviously wrong. If you came forward with a piece of logic
that shot their's all to hell, and they didn't accept it as such? Then so be
it. It's now up to _them_ to change. That's what I've been saying THIS ENTIRE
TIME. CHANGE YOURSELF IF YOUR THINKING IS WRONG.

>But again, they have the numbers, they're all impressed with themselves
>and could never admit fault in oneanother's logic.

Then that's _their_ problem, not your's. Admit your own faults, god dammit.
Don't worry about them admitting their's.

>If only RSPWF would follow your advice, albeit mis-guided due to getting
>swept up into the crowd mentality, Blottie.

If only _everyone_ would follow my advice here, we might dawn upon _HEAVEN_,
where all people point out faults, and the people who's faults are pointed out
adjust their thinking to fix them. A lot less wars, a lot less bickering, and
a lot more comraderie would follow. But people _won't_ follow my advice.
Hell, not even _you_ will follow my advice. So what's the odds that everyone
else on RSPWF is going to fall in line?

>Well, according to RSPWF, I'm ALWAYS wrong. Right? :)

Not always. But you _are_ wrong at times. Admit it and CHANGE.

>Believe me, my intention of taking advice for my everyday life from YOU
>isn't really going to happen, Blottie....especially considering you
>don't know me from Adam.

I know you fine and well. You present yourself on RSPWF on a daily basis, and
unless you're presenting a false face to all those here, then I know how you
think, and thus, who you are. I don't need to move to New York and hang out
with you to get a basic grasp of who you are, Mark.

>Or perhaps follow your OWN advice sometimes. Because after hearing your
>input in this conversation, I've come to the conclusion that your
>federation partner, Wayne, is a hell of a lot cooler then you are. At
>least he forms his own opinions on who to like and who not to.

I do follow my own advice, as I'm perfectly fine with admitting I'm wrong, and
changing who I am to fix those wrongs. And being "cool" has nothing to do with
this, whether Wayne be the coolest man alive or not. Annnnnd. To conclude, I
do form my own opinions on who to like and who not to. I run a fed with
fucking WAYNE, for christ's sake. Everyone I know tells me on a daily basis
how much of a queef he is, but you know what? I really don't care, as I
honestly like Wayne, bizarre questions and incessant IMing not withstanding.
Hell, ask anyone here on RSPWF whether they like me or not. Then ask them why.
You might be surprised that the answer isn't "because everyone tells us to
like him".

Brian J. Blottie
-As civil as possible.

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