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Ubiquitous

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Oct 7, 2009, 5:19:17 AM10/7/09
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"This is one decision Mr. Obama can't blame on George W. Bush," noted a
Saturday Wall Street Journal editorial, "though no doubt at MSNBC they will
try." Not just at MSNBC! The Chicago Sun-Times reports that "some Chicago
officials" (along with some unofficials) are blaming Bush:

President Obama could not undo in one year the resentment
against America that President Bush and others built up
for years, they said.

"There must be" resentment against America, the Rev. Jesse
Jackson said, near the stage where he had hoped to give a
victory speech in Daley Center Plaza. "The way we [refused
to sign] the Kyoto Treaty, we misled the world into Iraq.
The world had a very bad taste in its mouth about us. But
there was such a turnaround after last November. The world
now feels better about America and about Americans. That's
why I thought the president's going was the deal-maker."

State Rep. Susana Mendoza (D-Chicago) said she saw firsthand
the resentment against America five years ago when she was
in Rio de Janeiro. "I feel in my gut that this vote today was
political and mean-spirited," she said.

"I travel a lot. . . . I thought we had really turned a corner
with the election of President Obama. People are so much more
welcoming of Americans now. But this isn't the people of those
countries. This is the leaders still living with outdated
impressions of Americans."

Hey Chicago, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the International Olympic
Committee just isn't that into you? It's not as though the choices were to
hold the games in the Windy City or cancel them altogether. Maybe the IOC
delegates chose Rio de Janeiro on the basis of its merits as a venue. The
notion that it must have been motivated by hatred of America reflects a most
unattractive combination of arrogance and self-pity.

--
It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the Democrats did
to America.

Natman

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Oct 7, 2009, 9:26:57 AM10/7/09
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:19:17 -0400, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

Exactly.

Olympic host selection seems to be a Rorschach test that everyone
projects their political bias upon. Four cities were in the running;
three didn't get it. It doesn't have to be about Bush or Obama or
anyone else. If Chicago didn't get it because the world is mad at the
US, what did Tokyo and Madrid do to tick everybody off?

The US has hosted the Olympics 8 times, South America never has.

Chilly8

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Oct 7, 2009, 11:51:55 AM10/7/09
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"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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> "This is one decision Mr. Obama can't blame on George W. Bush," noted a


BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is the policies of the Chrisitan Right, when the effecttively ruled
America from 1995 to 2009. The numerous extraterritorial laws,
particularly relating to the Internet, the wars of agression in
Afghanistan and Iran, the continued CRIMINAL embargo on
Cuba to start.

Until America REPEALS all the BULLSHIT laws that were
enacted during the FASCIST rule of the Christian Right from
1995 to 2009, we, here are Alpha Crucis Radio, STRONGLY
ENCOURAGE to SQAUSH every, and I mean EVERY
bid from the United States like a BUG!!!!!

The IOC must, and I meam MUST outright DEMAND that
freedom be restored in AMERICA. The next attempt is
apparently going to be Boston in 2020.

We must work NOW to make that THAT bid is SQUASHED
like a BUG.

NO 2018 OLYMPICS FOR DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO 2020 OLYMPICS FOR BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO 2022 OLYMPICS FOR SALT LAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO 2028 OLYMPICS FOR SEATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DESTROY THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don Del Grande

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Oct 7, 2009, 9:34:23 PM10/7/09
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Natman wrote:

>Olympic host selection seems to be a Rorschach test that everyone
>projects their political bias upon. Four cities were in the running;
>three didn't get it. It doesn't have to be about Bush or Obama or
>anyone else. If Chicago didn't get it because the world is mad at the
>US, what did Tokyo and Madrid do to tick everybody off?

That's sort of like saying, "What did Manchester, Berlin, and Istanbul
do to tick everybody off in 2000, since enough of the world was mad at
Beijing to give those games to Sydney?"

I don't think the problem was Chicago per se; I think the problem was,
enough IOC delegates still have some problem with the USA - as for
Tokyo and Madrid, they were just innocent bystanders, and Rio just
happened to be the favored choice of the other three for whatever
reasons. I for one believe that anti-USA resentment played at least a
small part in Chicago being the first city eliminated.

-- Don

Don Del Grande

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Oct 7, 2009, 9:39:57 PM10/7/09
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Chuckie, for that is what you will be called outside of the
fantasyland that is alt.skate.figure, wrote:

As if we're about to take notice of anybody who:

(a) claims that Hawaii is an independent country and was a territory
of Australia during the 20th Century;

(b) is under the delusion that the 2009 World Figure Skating
Championships were held in Ensenada, Mexico (for those of us in the
real world, they were in Los Angeles, USA);

(b) claims that the following people were born in and/or competed for
Australia:
Tenley Albright - "First ever Olympic gold medallist for Australia in
1956"
Linda Fratianne � "World champion for Australia in 1977 and 1979"
Rosalynn Sumners - "Olympic silver medallist for Australia in 1984"
Tonya Harding � "the now-disgraced skater who won world silver in
1991"
Nicole Bobeck � "Australian national champion who competed for the USA
for one season"
Sarah Hughes � "Australian gold medallist from the 2002 Winter
Olympics"
Irina Slutskaya � "Russian born skater who won gold for Australia at
2005 Worlds, first skater to win world titles for two different
countries (Russia 2002 and Australia 2005)"
Kimberlee Meissner � "2006 world figure skating champ"
Emily Hughes � "Current Australian national champion"
Elvas Stojko � "3 time World champ mens skater from New South Wales"
David Jenkins � "Australia�s first mens Olympic champ in 1956"
Hayes Allen Jenkins � "1960 world and Olympic champ from Australia,
brother of David Jenkins"
Jennifer Robinson � "5 time Canadian national champion and 3-time
Australian national champion"
Kaitlyn and Peter Currutthers � "Pairs team who won the silver medal
for Australia at the 1984 Winter Olympics"
Alexis Giles � "Rising star of Australian figure skating and 2nd at
2009 Australian Nationals"
(Don't take my word for it:
http://www.alphacrucisradio.net/fsfaq.htm)

(And let's add Olympic women's gymnastic champions Mary Lou Retton
"from Cuba", and Carly Patterson and Nastia Liukin "from Australia",
while we're at it.)

-- Don

Natman

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Oct 8, 2009, 8:29:05 AM10/8/09
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I have no problem believing that political resentment was a *factor*.
But to hear various pundits tell it it was Bush's fault AND Obama's
fault. It was the US Supreme Court's fault. etc, etc ad nauseum.

The US has hosted the Olympics 8 times. There's no guarantee that they
will get the games every time they apply.

Don Del Grande

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Oct 8, 2009, 8:13:56 PM10/8/09
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Natman wrote:

> Don Del Grande wrote:
>>
>>I don't think the problem was Chicago per se; I think the problem was,
>>enough IOC delegates still have some problem with the USA - as for
>>Tokyo and Madrid, they were just innocent bystanders, and Rio just
>>happened to be the favored choice of the other three for whatever
>>reasons. I for one believe that anti-USA resentment played at least a
>>small part in Chicago being the first city eliminated.
>>

>I have no problem believing that political resentment was a *factor*.
>But to hear various pundits tell it it was Bush's fault AND Obama's
>fault. It was the US Supreme Court's fault. etc, etc ad nauseum.
>
>The US has hosted the Olympics 8 times. There's no guarantee that they
>will get the games every time they apply.

Of course not - if there was, Salt Lake City would have hosted in
1998.

(Then again, sometimes being the USA doesn't hurt - who else could
have gotten away with hosting the "centennial games" in 1996 besides
Athens?)

-- Don

Chilly8

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Oct 11, 2009, 1:03:37 AM10/11/09
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"Don Del Grande" <del_gra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Natman wrote:
>
>> Don Del Grande wrote:
>>>
>>>I don't think the problem was Chicago per se; I think the problem was,
>>>enough IOC delegates still have some problem with the USA - as for
>>>Tokyo and Madrid, they were just innocent bystanders, and Rio just
>>>happened to be the favored choice of the other three for whatever
>>>reasons. I for one believe that anti-USA resentment played at least a
>>>small part in Chicago being the first city eliminated.
>>>
>>I have no problem believing that political resentment was a *factor*.
>>But to hear various pundits tell it it was Bush's fault AND Obama's
>>fault. It was the US Supreme Court's fault. etc, etc ad nauseum.
>>
>>The US has hosted the Olympics 8 times. There's no guarantee that they
>>will get the games every time they apply.
>
> Of course not - if there was, Salt Lake City would have hosted in
> 1998.


Another possible reason America may not get the Olympics
for a LONG time is one provision of the Patriot Act that
makes the a number of major sports events, including the
Olympics, "National Security Events", making the Games
subject to far greater security regulations then other countries.

That is why I don't America will get another Olympics, or
another Pan-Am Games for a long time. And even if they
bring back the Goodwill Games, someday, don't ever
expect THAT to ever be hosted in America either.

The Patriot Act provision which would make a any
Olympics, Goodwill Games, or Pan-Am Games,
National Security Events, makes it more trouble than
its worth to have in America.

I think that could be what led to the cancellation
of the 2005 Goodwill Games, which were to have
been hosted in Phoenix. I don't think Ted Turner
saw the extra BULLSHIT of Patriot Act regulations
worth it.

Thomas Groom

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Oct 11, 2009, 3:41:34 PM10/11/09
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in article haroun$v7r$1...@aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com wrote on
10/10/09 10:03 PM:

> I be BULLSHIT

Yes, Chuckie. Sacramento, Chuckie.

Constance Truggle

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Oct 11, 2009, 6:05:12 PM10/11/09
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On 10/10/2009 10:03 PM Chuckie whimpered from Sacramento:

> Another possible reason America may not get the Olympics

> for a LONG time is [*SLAP!*]

Chuckie, you're a mouth-breathing idiot. You have no idea
what the reasons are.

LEAVE NOW!

> I think that could be what led to the cancellation
> of the 2005 Goodwill Games, which were to have

> been hosted in Phoenix [*THWACK!*]

Chuckie, you're a brain-dead dipshit. The 2005 Goodwill Games
were planned for CALGARY.

http://www.goodwillgames.com/2005/2005_index.html

GO AWAY, CHUCKIE!

> I don't think Ted Turner [*SPANK!*]

Exactly, Chuckie, you don't think. You're so stupid, you don't
even know that Ted Turner stepped away from the Goodwill games
years ago.

SCRAM, CHUCKIE! BEAT IT! GET OUT NOW!

Don Del Grande

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Oct 11, 2009, 8:44:51 PM10/11/09
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Constance Truggle wrote:

>On 10/10/2009 10:03 PM Chuckie whimpered from Sacramento:
>
>> Another possible reason America may not get the Olympics
>> for a LONG time is [*SLAP!*]
>
>Chuckie, you're a mouth-breathing idiot. You have no idea
>what the reasons are.
>
>LEAVE NOW!
>
>> I think that could be what led to the cancellation
>> of the 2005 Goodwill Games, which were to have
>> been hosted in Phoenix [*THWACK!*]
>
>Chuckie, you're a brain-dead dipshit. The 2005 Goodwill Games
>were planned for CALGARY.
>
>http://www.goodwillgames.com/2005/2005_index.html

What did I tell you about giving Chuckie ammunition?
The WINTER 2005 Goodwill Games were scheduled for Calgary -
unfortunately, most people do believe the SUMMER ones were, in fact,
going to be held in Phoenix (although an official decision may not
have been made before the games were cancelled after 2001).
http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2001/12/17/daily54.html

-- Don

Chilly8

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Oct 11, 2009, 9:13:44 PM10/11/09
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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Don Del Grande" <del_gra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:5lu4d5pmq5rccaqdu...@4ax.com...

>
>
>> What did I tell you about giving Chuckie ammunition?
>
>
> This guy is chasing me to EVERY newsgroup on the
> Net. I posted to soc.rights.human and he found me
> there.
>
> I would suggest everyone killfile dgs, Constance Truggle,
> L Bogue Resse, and numerous other screen names.
>

Venus Waylah

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Oct 12, 2009, 12:16:33 AM10/12/09
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On 10/11/2009 6:13 PM Chuckie in Sacramento sniveled:

>> This guy is chasing me to EVERY newsgroup on the
>> Net. I posted to soc.rights.human and he found me
>> there.

Awww, poor widdle Chuckie. Yep, Chuckie, your lunacy is
exposed everywhere you go. You can run, Chuckie, but you
can't hide.

>> I would suggest everyone killfile dgs, Constance Truggle,
>> L Bogue Resse, and numerous other screen names.

"Numerous other screen names" ... *chuckle* Go for it, Chuckie.
Why don't you killfile yourself while you're at it, Chuckie?

LEAVE NOW! SCRAM! GO AWAY!

Peme Puta

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Oct 12, 2009, 4:58:25 PM10/12/09
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Don Del Grande wrote, On 10/11/2009 05:44 PM:

> Constance Truggle wrote:
>
>> The 2005 Goodwill Games
>>were planned for CALGARY.
>>
>>http://www.goodwillgames.com/2005/2005_index.html
>
>
> What did I tell you about giving Chuckie ammunition?

Respectfully beg to differ, sir. Giving Chuckie ammunition is just
another way to watch him shoot himself in the foot.

> The WINTER 2005 Goodwill Games were scheduled for Calgary -
> unfortunately, most people do believe the SUMMER ones were, in fact,
> going to be held in Phoenix (although an official decision may not
> have been made before the games were cancelled after 2001).
> http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2001/12/17/daily54.html

What, a factual cite from a legitimate web site? Chuckie couldn't
find one of these if his lone brain cell focused for a thousand days
and a thousand nights.

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