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Rob

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Jan 6, 2002, 6:15:46 PM1/6/02
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Hi Guys and Girls,

I am looking to purchase my first jetski and have decided on a Kawasaki
650SX. I have never actually ridden one of these things (or any other stand
up ski for that matter) but have ridden a number of wave blaster type ski's
(including a 2001' GP1200R :). These Ski's are available in Australia for
between $2000 and $3000AUD for an early 90's model.

What I am wanting to know is what to look for when looking for a second hand
ski from a private seller? Is there a buying guide URL available? The engine
department should not be a problem to inspect from a top/bottom end
perspective (I know a bike/boat mechanic). Can you tell if the boat might
leak without putting it in the water? How do I spot small hairline cracks in
the hull? Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

Lastly, what is the learning curve like for one of these machines? Any URL's
on 'learning to ride a jet-ski' would also be appreciated.

Regards,
Rob
Brisbane, Australia.
1999 Honda CB600F


Rob

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Jan 6, 2002, 6:17:28 PM1/6/02
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Whoops,

I also wanted to know of any inherent/common problems with these ski's.

Rob
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Pilot77X

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Jan 7, 2002, 12:10:25 AM1/7/02
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Have you considered looking at superjets of the same year, handle much better
and they are easier to learn on? Just a thought, have ridden a lot of 650sx's
not one of my favorite standups!!
Craig

momar

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Jan 7, 2002, 12:20:48 AM1/7/02
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actually I found that the 650sx was better then the original 750sx, it was a
much smoother ride but yes the original superjet rode the chop best of all
but it was dog slow in the beginning
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myk

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Jan 7, 2002, 10:26:34 AM1/7/02
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gp12000 a blaster like ski? sure.... fucking aussie.

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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati.

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TDWFL

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Jan 7, 2002, 3:42:44 PM1/7/02
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> "myk" thu...@cfl.rrDOTcom wrote: >gp12000 a blaster like ski? sure....
fucking aussie.

So you're saying a gp1200 is more like a standup?
Burn another one dude!

tim

Tom Howlin

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Jan 7, 2002, 5:07:21 PM1/7/02
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Rob,

I too got the bug last summer for a standup. Tried a 650SX but just couldn't
handle it. Got on a SXi Pro and it was all the difference in the world.
Granted, you can buy 650's dirt cheap in the States - $800 - $1000 will buy you
a nice, clean, low hours example but you'll grow tired of it very quickly. The
Superjet is also a much easier ski to learn on and ride. As for common problems
with the 650SX, perhaps Dan DePardo will see this post and respond - he is our
resident standup expert. The biggest drawback I've seen on them is the oil
injection system instead of pre-mix. Standups get turned upside down so often
that the injection system easily develops air buddles in the lines which can
cause feed problems. If I had one, I would remove the oil injection
immediately. Parts are very available and dirt cheap because Kawasaki made so
many 650 motors. Hope this helps.

Tom

Rob

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Jan 7, 2002, 6:50:41 PM1/7/02
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Hi Guys,

I haven't actually had much of a look @ the Superjets - there doesn't seem
to be quite as many around, and of the ones that I have seen, they seem to
be later models and probably out of my price range at the moment. However, I
did see a 91' model @ a dealer for $3500 AUD (around $1800US) with a rebuilt
engine.

Just how much harder are the SX's to learn on? I would consider my
coordination good (I ride a m/c, skate, ski, etc).I weigh around 155lbs.

I suppose I am looking for something not too expensive at the moment. If I
really riding them, I will buy a much newer, expensive one down the track.

Regards,
Rob

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Carolina Watercraft Works, Inc.

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Jan 7, 2002, 8:45:21 PM1/7/02
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You shouldn't have any problems learning on the 650sx at all. That was
my first hull (1988) and I still hae it. In fact, I'm getting ready to put it all
(full blown mod with PJS R.I.C.) back together. I've always enjoyed the
650 hull. You can't go wrong with it.

--
Laszlo Almasi
Carolina Watercraft Works, Inc.
2810-5D Yonkers Road
Raleigh, NC 27604
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Dan DePardo

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Jan 7, 2002, 9:54:31 PM1/7/02
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Hi Rob;


> I haven't actually had much of a look @ the Superjets - there doesn't seem
> to be quite as many around, and of the ones that I have seen, they seem to
> be later models and probably out of my price range at the moment. However, I
> did see a 91' model @ a dealer for $3500 AUD (around $1800US) with a rebuilt
> engine.

If the dealer will offer an engine warranty on the '91 S-J, that not too bad
of a deal, considering the Australian market. An early S-J with a fresh engine
would be a very nice Ski to learn on...(I learned to Ski on a '91 650 S-J)


> Just how much harder are the SX's to learn on? I would consider my
> coordination good (I ride a m/c, skate, ski, etc).I weigh around 155lbs.

If you're reasonably athletic you won't have any problem learning on a 650SX,
however you will spend some time brushing up on your swimming technique. :~D
But falling off is a big part of learning howq to ride on ~ any ~ stand-up.
A 650SX is a decent starter boat, typically very reliable, and other than top
speed, a better choice than an early Kawasaki 750SX.


> I suppose I am looking for something not too expensive at the moment. If I
> really riding them, I will buy a much newer, expensive one down the track.

Good plan. It takes a certain amount of dedication to ride a stand-up "well",
and an older, preferably well-maintained, used Ski is the best way to find out
where you stand...and if you want to continue doing so.

Since you're not familiar with PWC, it would be well worth the expense of paying
a good watercraft shop to look over a used boat for you.

Dan "Stand on it" DePardo

Craig

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Jan 7, 2002, 10:45:27 PM1/7/02
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Rob wrote:

> Just how much harder are the SX's to learn on? I would consider my
> coordination good (I ride a m/c, skate, ski, etc).I weigh around 155lbs.

I 'sort-of' learned to ride on a 440, but didn't ride a lot 'til I got a
650 hull (w/750 motor). I now have the 650/750, a 93 superjet, and an sxi
pro... I like 'em all, but I'd have to say that the superjet is the best
for learning on..

That said, so what. The 650 isn't that much harder, and can be had for
less than a superjet. I wouldn't hesitate to go for it.

I still prefer my 650 hull when the water is glass-flat. We occasionally
ride in some small creeks, and while my 650 hull isn't the fastest through
our 'race course' I find it to be the most fun.

My wife rides the superjet, and I generally ride the sxi pro, since it's
usually not flat where we ride... The sxi works best at the riding spot
that's 5 minutes away, whereas the 650 works at the place that's an hour
away... unfortunately, in an effort to cut down on stuff, the 650/750 is
for sale. I'll miss it, but fortunately my brother has two 650s, so I'll
always be able to bum a ride on one.

Craig
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