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Dave Kehrer

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Oct 28, 1992, 10:22:06 AM10/28/92
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I was wondering about a penalty call that occurred after John McIntyre of
the Kings attempted to send an Islander back to the locker room on the fly,
via an elbow (I think it was Vladimir Malakhov on the receiving end, but
I'm not sure). Anyway, Mick "Mr." McGeough assessed a major on McIntyre
for elbowing- My question is: Has the NHL changed something in their
rules, or have the refs always had the discretion of calling a non-fighting
major, without a game misconduct to go along with it?

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David Kehrer (d...@sunsrvr2.cci.com)-Northern Telecom NAS-Rochester, New York

Hmmmm- Orr, Park, O'Reilly, Kluzak, Thelven, Neely... So where do the B's
doctors get their degrees, anyway? Moreover, were they sleeping through
the class about knee physiology? :-)

ASSIST Coordination Site

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Oct 28, 1992, 6:29:22 PM10/28/92
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In article <1992Oct28.1...@cci632.cci.com> d...@cci632.cci.com (Dave Kehrer) writes:
>I was wondering about a penalty call that occurred after John McIntyre of
>the Kings attempted to send an Islander back to the locker room on the fly,
>via an elbow (I think it was Vladimir Malakhov on the receiving end, but
>I'm not sure). Anyway, Mick "Mr." McGeough assessed a major on McIntyre
>for elbowing- My question is: Has the NHL changed something in their
>rules, or have the refs always had the discretion of calling a non-fighting
>major, without a game misconduct to go along with it?
>
>Thanks-
>--------
>David Kehrer (d...@sunsrvr2.cci.com)-Northern Telecom NAS-Rochester, New York

Actually, it was Brian Mullen on the receiving end of the elbow by
McIntyre. Although I do not know what the exact rule is, I seem to
remember other instances of five-minute majors being called without
a game misconduct attached. But, I too, would be curious to find
out what the rule is . . .

Kristina (so as not to be confused with the other "Kris" posting to r.s.h.)
kr...@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!


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Paul Sproxton

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Oct 29, 1992, 11:34:10 AM10/29/92
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I believe the rule is that a game misconduct is only given on sticking majors
(ie high-sticking, spearing, and slashing.

Unknown

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Oct 30, 1992, 6:00:07 AM10/30/92
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From article <1992Oct28.1...@cci632.cci.com>, by d...@cci632.cci.com (Dave Kehrer):

> I was wondering about a penalty call that occurred after John McIntyre of
> the Kings attempted to send an Islander back to the locker room on the fly,
> via an elbow (I think it was Vladimir Malakhov on the receiving end, but
> I'm not sure). Anyway, Mick "Mr." McGeough assessed a major on McIntyre
> for elbowing- My question is: Has the NHL changed something in their
> rules, or have the refs always had the discretion of calling a non-fighting
> major, without a game misconduct to go along with it?

As far as I know refs have always had the power to call discretionary
majors. They can call it "intent to injure" or something equally nebulous.

This is one reason why new rules were really never needed just new direction.
If the refs were trained in a manner in which flagrant fouls were penalized
severely than there would have been much fewer highsticking infractions etc.
At least that's my belief. As it is the NHL makes up rules which may or
may not be consistantly enforced.
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Gerald Gryschuk Saskatoon,Saskatchewan = a place with 9 months
ge...@sask.usask.ca of hockey and 3 months of poor skating.
Go Habs!!! (The Bum rules!!!)

GREG

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Oct 30, 1992, 11:30:00 AM10/30/92
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In article <1992Oct30.1...@access.usask.ca>, (Gerry Gryschuk) writes...

>From article <1992Oct28.1...@cci632.cci.com>, by d...@cci632.cci.com (Dave Kehrer):
>> I was wondering about a penalty call that occurred after John McIntyre of
>> the Kings attempted to send an Islander back to the locker room on the fly,
>> via an elbow (I think it was Vladimir Malakhov on the receiving end, but
>> I'm not sure). Anyway, Mick "Mr." McGeough assessed a major on McIntyre
>> for elbowing- My question is: Has the NHL changed something in their
>> rules, or have the refs always had the discretion of calling a non-fighting
>> major, without a game misconduct to go along with it?
>
>As far as I know refs have always had the power to call discretionary
>majors. They can call it "intent to injure" or something equally nebulous.
>
>This is one reason why new rules were really never needed just new direction.
>If the refs were trained in a manner in which flagrant fouls were penalized
>severely than there would have been much fewer highsticking infractions etc.
>At least that's my belief. As it is the NHL makes up rules which may or
>may not be consistantly enforced.

The server here at NASA really suck. I've tried to reply to many of
these comments about the new rules many times. I agree, Gerald, that
the refs had the power to keep this game from having to change the
rules like this. The rules have always been discretionary, and the
refs didn't mind seeing a chippy game, but I like to see pure offence
and defence, and don't mind them much.

What we don't see now is pure defence, no clutching, no grabbing, just
bodychecks, pokechecks, and hipchecks. Well, I did see the Caps Jason
Woolley hipcheck Lindros straight to hell. But I've felt those plays
have been missing the game for a long time.

Thank God the NHL is trying to clean it up, albeit some of the rules
really do suck.

Greg

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