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Ed Cottrill

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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I was wondering if there are any teams in the NHL which announcers dread having
to call the play-by-play for. This lead me to wonder what the worst
case scenario would be, among all players ever drafted by NHL teams. I
thought this must come pretty close:

Dennis Ververgaert
Ed Planagabko
Philip Von Stefenelli
Nelson Debenedet
Mike Ricci
Mark Recchi
Joe Reeki
Vadim Sharifijanov
Yevgeny Namestnikov
Joachim Esbjors
Vadim Epanchintsev
Ivan Volgojaninov
Kyosti Karjalainen
Gerry Planiondon
Pekka Rautakallio
Marko Tuomainen

and in goal:
Cleon Daskalakis
Dave Trofimenkoff

Trevor Peter Peterson

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Ed Cottrill (cott...@nexus.yorku.ca) wrote:

: I was wondering if there are any teams in the NHL which announcers dread having


: to call the play-by-play for. This lead me to wonder what the worst
: case scenario would be, among all players ever drafted by NHL teams. I
: thought this must come pretty close:

: Mike Ricci
: Mark Recchi
: Joe Reeki
: Yevgeny Namestnikov

How are these names hard to pronounce? Those four of some of the easiest
to pronounce. By the way, it is Reekie.

Trevor Peterson

Marc Arsenault

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I think the original poster had in mind that Ricci, Recchi and Reekie aren't
hard to pronounce, but are similar enough that they are just confusing.
I remember seeing a Habs, Lighting (I think) game on TSN, and the play by
play announcer had Recchi and Reekie backwards at some point.

Marc Arsenault
as...@freenet.carleton.ca

Nicholas Winton

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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add also: Ilya Bilyetdinov.

NIc

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Trevor Peter Peterson

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Marc Arsenault (as...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

: I think the original poster had in mind that Ricci, Recchi and Reekie aren't


: hard to pronounce, but are similar enough that they are just confusing.
: I remember seeing a Habs, Lighting (I think) game on TSN, and the play by
: play announcer had Recchi and Reekie backwards at some point.

That is right, we are talking about small-brained announcers aren't we?

Trevor Peterson

Anders Thelemyr

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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Nichola...@campuslife.utoronto.ca (Nicholas Winton) wrote:

I don't think the Russians namns are that difficult to pronounce.
I think american or canadien names sometimes are more difficult
coz you have so many exceptions to your rules of pronunciation.

(btw those words: pronounce - pronunciation aren't that easy to
spell... :-) )

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Vern Faulkner

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> : Mark Recchi
> : Joe Reeki
> : Yevgeny Namestnikov

MA> I think the original poster had in mind that Ricci,
MA> Recchi and Reekie aren't hard to pronounce, but are similar enough MA>

that they are just confusing.

From my 1995-96 All-Mangled Squad, showing only NHL drafted players, or players
with NHL activity in 1995-96:

Goaltenders:
Nikolai Khapibulin, [Jets, NHL]
Mikail Shtalenkov, [Anaheim, NHL]

Nolan Baumgartner, [Cdn Junior]
Oleg Tverdovsky, [Anaheim, NHL]
Darius Kasparaitis, [Islanders, NHL]
Ken Baumgartner (LW), [Toronto, NHL]
Adam Deadmarsh [RW], [Colorado, NHL]
Vladimir Tsyplakov [LW], [Kings, NHL]
Steve Konowalchuk, [C], [Washington, NHL]
Vadim Sharafijanov, [RW], [Albany, AHL]
Ralph Intranuovo, [C], [Oilers, AHL]
Sergai Krivokrasov, [RW], [Detroit, NHL]
Valeri Zelepukin, [RW], [Devils, NHL]
Curtis Leschyshyn, [Colorado, NHL]
Richard Matvichuk, [Dallas, NHL]
Sergai Gonchar, [Washington, NHL]
Zigmund Palffy, [RW], [Islanders, NHL]
Gino Odjick [LW], [Vancouver, NHL]
David Nemirovsky, [RW], [Florida, NHL]
Kelly Buchberger, [LW], [Edmonton, NHL]
Mariusz Czerkawski [F], Edmonton NHL]


Anders Thelemyr

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Vern Faulkner <Vern.F...@f44.n340.z1.fidonet.org> wrote:
>Goaltenders:
>Nikolai Khapibulin, [Jets, NHL]
>Mikail Shtalenkov, [Anaheim, NHL]
>
>Nolan Baumgartner, [Cdn Junior]
>Oleg Tverdovsky, [Anaheim, NHL]
>Darius Kasparaitis, [Islanders, NHL]
>Ken Baumgartner (LW), [Toronto, NHL]
>Adam Deadmarsh [RW], [Colorado, NHL]
>Vladimir Tsyplakov [LW], [Kings, NHL]
>Steve Konowalchuk, [C], [Washington, NHL]
>Vadim Sharafijanov, [RW], [Albany, AHL]
>Ralph Intranuovo, [C], [Oilers, AHL]
>Sergai Krivokrasov, [RW], [Detroit, NHL]
>Valeri Zelepukin, [RW], [Devils, NHL]
>Curtis Leschyshyn, [Colorado, NHL]
>Richard Matvichuk, [Dallas, NHL]
>Sergai Gonchar, [Washington, NHL]
>Zigmund Palffy, [RW], [Islanders, NHL]
>Gino Odjick [LW], [Vancouver, NHL]
>David Nemirovsky, [RW], [Florida, NHL]
>Kelly Buchberger, [LW], [Edmonton, NHL]
>Mariusz Czerkawski [F], Edmonton NHL]
>
None of these seems to be any problem! :-)

One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
How do one pronounce that?

Ken Davie

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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On 29 May 1996 13:28:31 GMT, fd...@ix.netcom.com(Paul Curnow and Wendy
O'Boyle) wrote:

>In <31ab767c....@news.algonet.se> and...@algonet.se (Anders


>Thelemyr) writes:
>
>>
>>One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
>>How do one pronounce that?
>
>

>It's easy once you get the hang of it: KA-Chuk ("t" is silent)
Since when has there been silent letters in the Russian and or
Ukrainian languages?

--- TKA-chook ---

Ken Davie

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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>On Tue, 28 May 1996 21:58:10 GMT, and...@algonet.se (Anders Thelemyr)
>wrote:
>
>
>>>Goaltenders:
>>>Nikolai Khabibulin, [Jets, NHL]

>>>Mikail Shtalenkov, [Anaheim, NHL]
>>>
>>>Nolan Baumgartner, [Cdn Junior]
>>>Oleg Tverdovsky, [Anaheim, NHL]
>>>Darius Kasparaitis, [Islanders, NHL]
>>>Ken Baumgartner (LW), [Toronto, NHL]
>>>Adam Deadmarsh [RW], [Colorado, NHL]
>>>Vladimir Tsyplakov [LW], [Kings, NHL]
>>>Steve Konowalchuk, [C], [Washington, NHL]
>>>Vadim Sharafijanov, [RW], [Albany, AHL]
>>>Ralph Intranuovo, [C], [Oilers, AHL]
>>>Sergai Krivokrasov, [RW], [Detroit, NHL]
>>>Valeri Zelepukin, [RW], [Devils, NHL]
>>>Curtis Leschyshyn, [Colorado, NHL]
>>>Richard Matvichuk, [Dallas, NHL]
>>>Sergai Gonchar, [Washington, NHL]
>>>Zigmund Palffy, [RW], [Islanders, NHL]
>>>Gino Odjick [LW], [Vancouver, NHL]
>>>David Nemirovsky, [RW], [Florida, NHL]
>>>Kelly Buchberger, [LW], [Edmonton, NHL]
>>>Mariusz Czerkawski [F], Edmonton NHL]
>>>
>>None of these seems to be any problem! :-)
I agree wish Anders, these names are not so hard to pronounce.
How many north americans can pronounce Peter Forsberg's, Tommy
Sjodin's
and or Teemu Selänne's names correctly?

>>
>>One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
>>How do one pronounce that?

Any Ukrainians care to elaborate on this one?


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Help free Leonard Peltier

Paligal

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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: > Ed Cottrill (cott...@nexus.yorku.ca) wrote:
: >
: > : I was wondering if there are any teams in the NHL which announcers dread having
: > : to call the play-by-play for. This lead me to wonder what the worst
: > : case scenario would be, among all players ever drafted by NHL teams. I
: > : thought this must come pretty close:
: >
: > : Mike Ricci
: > : Mark Recchi
: > : Joe Reeki
: > : Yevgeny Namestnikov

Throw in Craig Johnson and Greg Johnson, (both #23 on different teams),
Federov, Fetisov, and some guy named Fedetov that I noticed in an NHL
book, as well as all those brothers out there. I'm sure someone listening
to the game on the radio would have no idea what was going on.
Ricci, Reeki, Recchi, Federov, Fedetov, Fetisov, Johnson (Greg) and
Johnson (Craig). Zoiks!


Matthew Mitchell

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Mick McGeough (ref--pronounced like Mr. Magoo)
Mike Cvik (linesman--pronounce the C as a hard K)

If you're ever playing in Washington, my old partner Igor Zvonarev
(don't get into a rules argument with him!)

and for the players, don't forget Karl Dykhuis (dike-house)

Paul Curnow and Wendy O'Boyle

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In <31ab767c....@news.algonet.se> and...@algonet.se (Anders
Thelemyr) writes:

>
>One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
>How do one pronounce that?

It's easy once you get the hang of it: KA-Chuk ("t" is silent)

It's also one of my favorite hockey names (Besides "Beukeboom" (or
however you spell it) So much fun to say!

Kevin J Rys

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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how about all 7 sutter brothers plus gary suter?

PROCHA@undefined

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and...@algonet.se (Anders Thelemyr) writes:


>
>Vern Faulkner <Vern.F...@f44.n340.z1.fidonet.org> wrote:
>>Goaltenders:

>>Nikolai Khapibulin, [Jets, NHL]


>>Mikail Shtalenkov, [Anaheim, NHL]
>>
>>Nolan Baumgartner, [Cdn Junior]
>>Oleg Tverdovsky, [Anaheim, NHL]
>>Darius Kasparaitis, [Islanders, NHL]
>>Ken Baumgartner (LW), [Toronto, NHL]
>>Adam Deadmarsh [RW], [Colorado, NHL]
>>Vladimir Tsyplakov [LW], [Kings, NHL]
>>Steve Konowalchuk, [C], [Washington, NHL]
>>Vadim Sharafijanov, [RW], [Albany, AHL]
>>Ralph Intranuovo, [C], [Oilers, AHL]
>>Sergai Krivokrasov, [RW], [Detroit, NHL]
>>Valeri Zelepukin, [RW], [Devils, NHL]
>>Curtis Leschyshyn, [Colorado, NHL]
>>Richard Matvichuk, [Dallas, NHL]
>>Sergai Gonchar, [Washington, NHL]
>>Zigmund Palffy, [RW], [Islanders, NHL]
>>Gino Odjick [LW], [Vancouver, NHL]
>>David Nemirovsky, [RW], [Florida, NHL]
>>Kelly Buchberger, [LW], [Edmonton, NHL]
>>Mariusz Czerkawski [F], Edmonton NHL]
>>
>None of these seems to be any problem! :-)
>

>One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
>How do one pronounce that?

Most people pronounce it Ka-chuk'
Don Cherry pronounces it Tay' chuk
Therefore the first one must be right.

>Anders Thelemyr
>HOME/PRIVATE: and...@algonet.se
>WORK: Anders....@era.ericsson.se

Terpe
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Mary Panza

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Paul Curnow and Wendy O'Boyle wrote:
>
> In <31ab767c....@news.algonet.se> and...@algonet.se (Anders
> Thelemyr) writes:
> >One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
> >How do one pronounce that?
>
> It's easy once you get the hang of it: KA-Chuk ("t" is silent)
> It's also one of my favorite hockey names (Besides "Beukeboom" (or
> however you spell it) So much fun to say!

Berube is a favorite in our house. BA-ROO-BAY! BA-ROO-BAY! To which
someone invariably adds "Dive! Dive!". It all started because someone
noticed that Berube's name sounds a lot like the alarm that sounds (at
least in the movies) on submarines before it dives. And because his name
is usually said when he's checking someone, the "Dive!" part is even
funnier.
Another is Luc Robitaille. It must be pronounced "Luc Ro-ba-TIIIII!"
And let's not forget Uwe Kruppe.

As far as the pronounciations, I've always thought the French Canadians
were the worst. I'd hate to hear an announcer with a strong Texan accent
try some of those.

But hearing people try to say Kjell Samuelsson's first name is always
interesting.

Let's face it. The names are part of what makes hockey interesting!

-mary

John Alway

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Mary Panza wrote:

> Let's face it. The names are part of what makes hockey interesting!

Anyone remember Yurri Bubla (sp?), pronounced boo blah?

I always liked to hear the announcers with that one.

...John

Eric J Ojala

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I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich, Ron,
and ... I can't think of the last one.

Eric

eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Doug Deutsch

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In article <4oi43p$s...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric J Ojala) wrote:

> I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich,
> Ron, and ... I can't think of the last one.

Duane.

Doug

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Bowling Green State University '93
EMAIL: deu...@en.com
WWW: http://www.en.com/users/deutsch/

Robert Wallace Eddy

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On 29 May 1996, Eric J Ojala wrote:

>
> I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich, Ron,
> and ... I can't think of the last one.
>

> Eric
>
> eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>
>
Duane (sp??) was the other. I think so anyways. Then again, I also
firmly believe that socks are a cozy coccoon for the feet which will one
day evolve into jet-packs.

Robert

Trevor Peter Peterson

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Mary Panza (mpa...@lumcorp.com) wrote:
: And let's not forget Uwe Kruppe.

I no I should not say anything, but it is KRUPP with no E. I have seen
his name spelled with an E on this newsgroup at least a couple of dozen
times.

Trevor Peterson


John Alway

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Well, maybe some people are tired of the same
old Krupp. :-)


...John

Garry Holmen

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Vern Faulkner (Vern.F...@f44.n340.z1.fidonet.org) wrote:
: Oleg Tverdovsky, [Anaheim, NHL]

Let me guess Vern... you think Selanne still plays with the Jets too. 8^)

Garry

Rudy

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eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu wrote>
=I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich, Ron,
=and ... I can't think of the last one.
= Eric

Duane. Islander wing and currently on the Panthers coaching staff.

On hockey names that are a dream, rather than a nightmare, because
they sound right

Goodenough - Playfair - Ruff - Butcher - Tamer - Crowder - LeMieux.

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Anders Thelemyr

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I think it's Jiri Bubla...
Geer-schee Bubb-lah

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Anders Thelemyr

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Oh, I thougt it was 'Dick-house'?

Matt Hefferman

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fd...@ix.netcom.com(Paul Curnow and Wendy O'Boyle) writes:

: and...@algonet.se (Anders Thelemyr) writes:
: >One that gives *me* a problem is Tkachuk...
: >How do one pronounce that?
:
:
: It's easy once you get the hang of it: KA-Chuk ("t" is silent)

Yeah, like the silent "t" in Eddie Johnston's name, or so most of the
ESPN & Fox announcers would have you think.

--
Matt Hefferman <heff...@bbn.com>
BBN Corp., Middletown, RI
"Oh dear, he's signed his name again." - MPFC

François Caron

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The worse ones I have heard were most French names as said by anglophones (no offense
intended).

For example, Lemieux: the Pittsburg announcer says: "Lemioooooooouuuuuuu" (continue for
2-3 more lines) whenever he scores; Paul Boutilier (often pronounced "Boot-leer", where it
should be a'bit more like: "Boo-tee-lee-ay") Guy Lafleur (often pronounced Laflour,
Lafloor). You look at the NHL guide, and under several names, there is some kind of
prononciation guide: Robitaille is "Roh-buh-tigh", Lemieux is "Lehm-YOO".

Another funny one, is JIM DESHAIES, a baseball player. I believe he is american-born, and
his name is often pronounced "Day-chay" by commentators. French people pronounce it as if
it was two words, "day-hay", such as Des Haies, withtout adjoining the "SH". But you know
what, "day-chay", when pronounced that way, sounds like "déchets" (dechets with a "/" on
the first "e"), which means "garbage" in French.

I am sure that funny things also happen the other way around, I am just giving a different
perspective.

Francois.

Anders Thelemyr

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Mary Panza <mpa...@lumcorp.com> wrote:
>But hearing people try to say Kjell Samuelsson's first name is always
>interesting.

Well, for you who don't know it's...
'KJ' is pronounced like the 'CH' in 'charter', but without the
't'-sound in the beginning.
and 'ell' is pronounced very much like the 'ell' in 'spell'.

---

Anders Thelemyr

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fd...@ix.netcom.com(Paul Curnow and Wendy O'Boyle) wrote:
>It's easy once you get the hang of it: KA-Chuk ("t" is silent)

Gesundheit!

Paul Dalrymple

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eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric J. Ojala) wrote:

EJO>I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich,
EJO>Ron,
EJO>and ... I can't think of the last one.

Dwayne Sutter


Rudy

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paul.da...@channel1.com wrote>
=eoj...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric J. Ojala) wrote:
=EJO>I thought that there were six Sutter brothers: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Rich,
=EJO>Ron,
=EJO>and ... I can't think of the last one.
=
= Dwayne Sutter
=
Duane is the spelling.

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Ed Mundt

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Hockey names??

First of all, the great announcer Foster Hewitt could never pronouce Yvon
Cornoyer. Funnily, he could pronounce all the Russian names!
Somebody mentioned the surname "Deadmarsh." Meaning Adam Deadmarsh. I'm
going one-up on that by submitting the name Butch Deadmarsh of the Atlanta
Flames, and later the WHA, which was rife with great names.

Hilliard Graves....

Bart Crashley...

...Okay two of the top of my head....

any more?


Ed

Keyser Soze

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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Here's one that got overlooked.

Earlier in his career, nobody could could properly pronounce Patrick
Roy. At least not the announcers in Boston :-)

Ryan


S Smyth

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r...@ultranet.com (Keyser Soze) wrote:

>Ryan

OK lets all go watch reruns of Ruah Ruahgers movies
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