Harry Neale, Game 1, NYR 1 - Van 0
[paraphrase]
"If Vancouver doesn't get the next goal it's going to be pretty hard to
come back"
Sheesh.
-- Lydia
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Nice thread. I've often thought about collecting funny comments and posting
them every few weeks but never get around to it. Anyway, during one of the
last NY/NJ games Gary Thorne mentioned that some of the Canucks figure to
play the Rangers in the finals. He said something like, "The Canucks hope
that the Rangers' series lasts seven games and they all get groin pulls."
Anna
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"None of that stinkin' root beer."
Why is this so stupid? Neale was obviously trying to say that if the
Rangers got the next goal, the Canucks would have trouble coming back from
a lead of more than one goal, whereas they might be able to come back from
a one-goal defecit. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it's not a
ridiculous comment.
Regards,
Ian
Gary Thorne as the New York Rangers clinch the Eastern Conference Title:
1940 IS HISTORY !!!!!!!
I found this amusing for two reasons:
1) Yes, 1940 is history, so is '41, '42,....'91, '92, '93...I've studied them
all in school.
2) Everyone knows that the Rangers have indeed been the Wales Conference
champs since 1940 and still have not won the cup. Just because they got
past NJ doesn't mean that it's all over.
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Jacques.
In this same vein, I thought it was pretty humorous in game 6 of
NY/NJ when Nichols shot the puck at Anderson at the end of the
third period. When recapping the penalty the ESPN guys said
something to the effect of "Nichols called for the penalty at -
everybody -19:40 - of the 3rd period."
Terry
Don "Dimwit" Whittman during a game in the 1990-91 season.
"The ebb and flow of this game is going back and forth"
This moron should go back to lottery draws where he belongs.
Dan.
>>Harry Neale, Game 1, NYR 1 - Van 0
>>
>>[paraphrase]
>>
>>"If Vancouver doesn't get the next goal it's going to be pretty hard to
>>come back"
>>
>>Sheesh.
>>
>>
>>-- Lydia
>
> Why is this so stupid? Neale was obviously trying to say that if the
>Rangers got the next goal, the Canucks would have trouble coming back from
>a lead of more than one goal, whereas they might be able to come back from
>a one-goal defecit. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it's not a
>ridiculous comment.
I expect a little more intelligent commentary when watching a game.
I don't expect to be told things that I can figure out for myself
without having to watch any part of the action.
km
> >Harry Neale, Game 1, NYR 1 - Van 0
> >
> >"If Vancouver doesn't get the next goal it's going to be pretty hard to
> >come back"
> >
> >Sheesh.
> >
> >-- Lydia
>
> Why is this so stupid? Neale was obviously trying to say that if the
> Rangers got the next goal, the Canucks would have trouble coming back from
> a lead of more than one goal, whereas they might be able to come back from
> a one-goal defecit. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it's not a
> ridiculous comment.
>
> Regards,
> Ian
Ian, as far as Lydia is concerned, anything Harry or Bob or for that matter
Ron Maclean says is ridiculous. On the other hand Dick has nothing but rich,
knowledgable,poignant,and insightful views on hockey which he expresses with
deep insight and a colorful style of prose.
--BP
>In article 48...@neat.cs.toronto.edu, mai...@cs.toronto.edu (Ian Maione) writes:
>> In article <2sm815$m...@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> sha...@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia Mancini) writes:
>> >Harry Neale, Game 1, NYR 1 - Van 0
>> >"If Vancouver doesn't get the next goal it's going to be pretty hard to
>> >come back"
>> >Sheesh.
>> Why is this so stupid? Neale was obviously trying to say that if the
>> Rangers got the next goal, the Canucks would have trouble coming back from
>> a lead of more than one goal, whereas they might be able to come back from
>> a one-goal defecit. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it's not a
>> ridiculous comment.
>> Regards,
>> Ian
>Ian, as far as Lydia is concerned, anything Harry or Bob or for that matter
>Ron Maclean says is ridiculous. On the other hand Dick has nothing but rich,
>knowledgable,poignant,and insightful views on hockey which he expresses with
>deep insight and a colorful style of prose.
I can speak for myself, and I did, thankyou.
Why am I not surprised that once again you try this stupid Montreal garbage?
Perhaps you are biased and you try to associate everything in hockey to
the Flames, but don't try that on other people.
>Jim Peplinski would have said:
>"The team that wins the game will be the one the won that puts the puck in
>the net more times than the opposition puts the puck in their net...."
I remember Harry Neale's pregame playoff lists fondly:
For Team X - Goal scorers must score.
I guess that's why they're paying him the big bucks.
Regards,
Ian
>
Jim Peplinski would have said:
"The team that wins the game will be the one the won that puts the puck in
the net more times than the opposition puts the puck in their net...."
Jason
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[stuff deleted]
>
>But on a more serious note, there have to be better announcers in the United
>States then the ones ESPN pays the big bucks too. thorne gets so many names
>wrong it's amazing. In the last game he called Antoski"Bure" for half a shift.
>I don't know about you but I think I could tell the difference between 6'4" 240
>Antoski and 5'10" 180 bure. He also talked about what a difference Adams was
>making in the Vancouver nets.
>
[stuff deleted]
>Is it just me or does this bother anybody else?
>
Yea, it bothers me too that not only do the ESPN announcers get the names wrong but they
frequently engage in irrelevant discussions missing the critical calls!!! I guess the
excitement from the game causes the announcers to forget their responsibilities.
Peter
Well, a few days ago John McKeachie of BCTV wondered aloud about how
a few coast-to-coast flights would affect "those geriatric legs in the
blue shirts".
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Lorne Epp e...@mala.bc.ca
>Just about anything Derek Sanderson says about hockey. I get a kick
>out him.
>
Three of my favorite Derekisms:
1. During a break in the action in a B's-Montreal game a few years
back, Derek just comes out of nowhere and says, "Y'know Fred,
you say BOY, you say TOY, it's ROY not Roo-ah."
2. When Bob Sweeney played with the B's and was having a good game-
"Y'know Fred, you've got your Mario Lemieux, you've got your
Gretzkys, gotta include Bob Sweeney in there - potential 70
goal scorer!"
3. My favorite: When Nilan was with the B's, he made this really
good play; went around a defenseman 1 on 1, deked the goalie
and scored. Derek described Nilan's play as "shades of Rocket
Richard." On Derek's comparing Nilan and Richard in the same
sentence, Fred called it "sacrilege."
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>KEIFFER
In one of the Red Wings' games this year where the Wings were trailing by a
goal in the 3rd, Mickey Redmond said: "The Wings need to do something here to
win this" to which Dave Strater responded: "That would probably have to be:
score a goal"
Well, it was funny to me at the time.
Laurie Marshall
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VAN. vs NYR (Game 3), STANLEY CUP FINALS 06/04/94
About eight minutes into the 3rd period, Brian Leetch spears Jeff
Courtnall.
GARY THORNE: "Courntnall is down ... I think that was below the stomach .."
BILL CLEMENT: "He's skating towards the bench ... and he looks like he is
HOLDING his GROIN"
Gee!! Whiz!
Peter
1. After a first period of the Leafs/Sharks series when the Leafs were up
1-0, Barry offered this indepth analysis: "San Jose needs to score a goal."
That was it - I assume he meant quickly....
2. He was going into this long story about travel and how the west coast
teams are used to it, etc. etc. And he said something like "This will be
the telling period because the travel will be trying to have its effect."
First time I heard that "travel" was a living, behaving, being.
3. He constantly repeats himself as in "Vancouver will be speeding across
the blue line and the D will be scared of the speed which Vancouver has
over the blueline and the D will be going back because they are scared of
the speed....."
What I really hate is how the ESPN announcers have to call every player by
their full name, sometimes with adjectives: "Pavel Bure shoots the puck in
and Mark Messier is around the boards and gets it out to Glen Anderson" or
"little Dougie Gilmour" or "little Cliff Ronning" (apparently Ronning
doesn't mind when people call him little - yeah right Pang.) Sorry for my
rantings - I miss HNIC.
Christine Hughes
chu...@uncmvs.oit.unc.edu
Greg,
Welcome to the club! Below is part of a February post on the subject.
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Right - Gary can do other sports. He was so bad as Bob Murphy's partner
on the Met's radio casts that Murphy was constantly correcting Thorne's
miscalls during the games (and Thorne was soon gone). Thorne has a few
problems which put him in the "worst" category along with Chevrier of
TSN. 1) He is as blind as a bat. 2) Talks as though he didn't get past
4th grade English. 3) He is a blowhard. 4) He doesn't know hockey
terminology. 5) Has a habit of talking about what just happened when he
should be talking about what's going on NOW. 6) He usually is 2 players
behind regarding possession of the puck. 7) His attempts at officiating
(calling off-sides, icing, penalties are a joke [see 1 above].
8) He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about hockey.
He does have a great voice and I suspect his only other strong
point is that he works cheap.
Examples: Fri game Chi-Buf, Buf player loses helmet front of net, skates
toward boards, turns around to come back to slot, gets checked by Chi
player(Smith). Thorne's call: "Smith checked him so hard he knocked his
helmet off." Wrong again Gary! Didn't you ever wonder why Thorne uses
"near side boards" when the good play-by-play guys say "boards"? Does
he really think it's important for us to know where the action is in
relation to HIM? What is "back hand glove"? What is "percentage save"?
Why does he use the future tense when speaking about something that just
happened?
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Add "glove-hand pass" for "hand-pass", "wide-side board" for boards
(or wall) and how come we never hear "narrow-side board". The best
question is why did ESPN hire a near-sighted asshole who doesn't know
hockey ????? A good part of each game Mr. Thorne does I watch with no sound.
Partial list of better announcers in US:Peckham,Cusik,Emery,McDonald,
Rimer,Miller,Foley,Rosen,Strader.
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> Three of my favorite Derekisms:
> 1. During a break in the action in a B's-Montreal game a few years
> back, Derek just comes out of nowhere and says, "Y'know Fred,
> you say BOY, you say TOY, it's ROY not Roo-ah."
Funny how he doesn't make fun of Ray being a French Canadian.
> 2. When Bob Sweeney played with the B's and was having a good game-
> "Y'know Fred, you've got your Mario Lemieux, you've got your
> Gretzkys, gotta include Bob Sweeney in there - potential 70
> goal scorer!"
> 3. My favorite: When Nilan was with the B's, he made this really
> good play; went around a defenseman 1 on 1, deked the goalie
> and scored. Derek described Nilan's play as "shades of Rocket
> Richard." On Derek's comparing Nilan and Richard in the same
> sentence, Fred called it "sacrilege."
After reading this, I can understand where most Boston fans get their
classlessness from (I could only digest 1 period of him).
I swear, every flame it seems has these type of ingredients.
I hope this guy hasn't got every Boston fan brainwashed.
By the way, what does Fred do when Derek says this sort of stupidity?
When the Ottawa Senators entered the league last season
they hired Dean Brown as their play-by-play man. Dean had
previously been the play-by-play man for the Ottawa Rough
Riders of the Canadian Football League.
During a preseason game last year there was a goal mouth
scramble and the Senators managed to score. An excited
Dean Brown proceeded to shout into the microphone
"Touchdown!".
Mike D'Amico
BNR
Ottawa, Ontario
Why am I not surprised that once again you try this stupid Calgary garbage?
Perhaps you are biased and you try to associate everything in hockey to
the Habs, but don't try that on other people.
--BP
: After reading this, I can understand where most Boston fans get their
: classlessness from (I could only digest 1 period of him).
1 whole period! Are you sure you could take him for that long :)
Watch the classlessness stuff, Lydia, which team bought a league to get a
player? Which team is owned by a brewery, Roy is being paid by legions of
alcoholic teenagers. (I'm just kidding, Shawmut bank is involved with the B's
meaning Bourque is being paid by forclosures).
: I hope this guy hasn't got every Boston fan brainwashed.
: By the way, what does Fred do when Derek says this sort of stupidity?
After awhile you learn how to tune him out, Fred however is part of the game
for me. It's just not the same without him (especially with the no-talents on
ESPN). Fred usually doesn't say anything, but you can tell. I think the
original with three derekisms contained his response to Nilan=Richard..
He probably has as many B's fans brainwashed as there were Canadiens "fans"
rioting on St. Catherine's. Don't worry most of us know the difference
between Lemieux and Bob Sweeney :)
--- Marty
> Don't worry most of us know the difference
> between Lemieux and Bob Sweeney :)
Arrgh...Oh god... the realization just hit me. I guess its okay that
Boston got rid of Sweeney then. After the remorse of the past two
years thinking that the bruins let the greatest talent in hockey ever
get away for nothing. Phew... Now I'm angry at Derek. I think I'm
going to write him a letter complaining about him brainwashing me. Any
other B's fans want to join in?
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doing school work.
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A few Jeaneretteisms..
"La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-laFontaine".. Once, during the Christmas holiday, he
did the 'la`s' like 'Deck the Halls.. (you know, fa la la la la...)
"Alexander the Great" (Mogilny). It was awesome when he scored 76 goals two
years ago, cause we got to hear him say it 76 times..
"Fuhr/Hasek made an HUGE SAVE", to a point of where he is screaming into the
mic.
"More 'chuk's then a charles convention." (Made in reference to the fact
where the Sabres once had Andreychuk, Malarchuk, Hawerchuk, and that seemed to
be a common name.
And, probably the second most favorite, last years sweep of Boston:
"may day, may day, may day, brad may" (after he took a pass from LaFontaine,
deked by Bourque, and then drew Moog out of the net and scored, in OT to beat
the B's 6-5, and 4-0 in the series.)
And, the best call to date:
"...Dawe clears it out in front, that hit a leg, here's Hannan... he scores...
Dave Hannan.. and this series is going back to where Jimmy Hoffa is buried,
back to the Meadowlands in New Jersey..."
After Dave "The General" Hannan scored in the 4th OT period to win game six,
1-0. (Hasek, 70 saves, no goals. a shut out streak of 125:41, which in
itself is awesome.)
ciao,
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"... I don't think Canisius wants me speaking for them..."
Also, whenever there is a small ruckus on the ice, he calls it another
"gathering of the clan".
That's all I can remember for now.
>: targ...@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>: [stuff deleted]
>: > Three of my favorite Derekisms:
>: > 1. During a break in the action in a B's-Montreal game a few years
>: > back, Derek just comes out of nowhere and says, "Y'know Fred,
>: > you say BOY, you say TOY, it's ROY not Roo-ah."
>: Funny how he doesn't make fun of Ray being a French Canadian.
>I remember this one, he was reading a sign somebody was holding up.
>: After reading this, I can understand where most Boston fans get their
>: classlessness from (I could only digest 1 period of him).
>1 whole period! Are you sure you could take him for that long :)
>Watch the classlessness stuff, Lydia, which team bought a league to get a
>player? Which team is owned by a brewery, Roy is being paid by legions of
>alcoholic teenagers. (I'm just kidding, Shawmut bank is involved with the B's
>meaning Bourque is being paid by forclosures).
I did not mean to imply that all Bruins fans are classness, I was just
saying that this is perhaps where those that are get their traits from.
Boy, you gotta be really careful how you write things around here :-)
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>Not once did I mention Montreal. Not once did I mention the Flames. You have
>stated in previous articles what you think of Bob,Harry,and Ron. It is also
>well known what you think of Dick. If you don't want people to form opinions
>on your comments then don't make them.
Just because I like Irvin and hate Cole, it does not mean that I cannot
objectively form an opinion on an issue related to announcers.
I was saying something I thought was dumb, and I would have thought so
had any other announcer said it.
You have implied time and again every time I say something that I am
biased, and you have brought in a Montreal angle every time.
I don't appreciate people making assumptions on what I believe or don't
believe. I never said Irvin didn't have faults, and certainly don't
think everything he says is prose (which was the Montreal angle). Cole
and Neale have their moments too, but those are overshadowed by the stupid
things they say. As for MacLean, well read on.
>Why am I not surprised that once again you try this stupid Calgary garbage?
>Perhaps you are biased and you try to associate everything in hockey to
>the Habs, but don't try that on other people.
How original? Thought that up all by yourself eh?
>IMHO, Rick Jeanerette is one of the best radio announcers in the game. (he
>does Sabres play-by-play)..
I agree with you here 100%. (I know there are some of you out there, who
shall remain nameless, who DISagree 100%).
When I was a little girl I remember WGR did a little sound byte with Rick
Jeanerette's words in between the lines "The opera ain't over 'till the fat
lady sings."
I'll never forget him yelling: "He scores! He scores! He scores! He scores!
John VAN BOX Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeer". (sorry if I spelled that wrong.) I guess
that isn't exactly "funny" but it was memorable nevertheless.
He was the radio man at CJRN in Niagara Falls and there were often times
when he couldn't even talk the next day.
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>
>
>This is a great thread. One that springs to mind immediately is Jiggs McDonald
>and Eddie Westfall in the 4-OT Isles-Caps game in 1987.
>
>The game started the night before Easter Sunday and when it turned past midnight
>jiggs said, "it is now Easter Sunday" and eddie replied, "And which team will
>find the Easter egg." Typical announcer humor. the stupidity came in because
>after every good save or blown opportunity FOR THE NEXT TWO OVERTIMES OR SO,
>jiggs and eddie exclaimed, "Oh, no Easter egg on that one for Flatley," or
>whoever.
>
>They had me that close to turning off the sound for maybe the greatest game I've
>ever seen.
>
>But on a more serious note, there have to be better announcers in the United
>States then the ones ESPN pays the big bucks too. thorne gets so many names
>wrong it's amazing. In the last game he called Antoski"Bure" for half a shift.
>I don't know about you but I think I could tell the difference between 6'4" 240
>Antoski and 5'10" 180 bure. He also talked about what a difference Adams was
>making in the Vancouver nets.
>
>That's just a sampling from the last game, but he does this 5-10 times a period.
>And don't get me started on darren pang, who spent a whole series talking about
>Toronto goalie Denis Potvin. i guess that explains why Denny didn't come to
>play for the Rangers this year- the Leafs must have made a better offer. :-)
>
>Is it just me or does this bother anybody else?
>
>Greg
>
Greg -- I find Gary Thorne to be extremely annoying, especially because
I am used to MSG announcers John Davidson and Sam Rosen, but am living
in Philly and don't have a satellite dish. I tend to turn off the sound
on ESPN, and turn on the FAN to listen to Howie Rose and Sal Messina.
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Greg -- yes, Marv does games still -- my roommate and I listen to all
the games on the FAN every year since we are here in Philly at school.
In fact, for Game 5 of this series and for Game 7 tonight, Marv and Howie
will be switching off each period to call the game (no one will be
replacing Sal :-) ).