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A Horse of course!!

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Jun 8, 1994, 1:00:51 AM6/8/94
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Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.

Michael Collingridge

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Jun 8, 1994, 12:06:38 PM6/8/94
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In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
(A Horse of course!!) writes:
>Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
>think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.

Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...

One report says that the Canucks are lobbying for the CFL to reduce
field goals from 3 to 2 pts because of the high-scoring games inherent
in the Canadian version of the sport. This should help teams like the
B.C. Lions, which is also based in Vancouver, bid for a Grey Cup.

Another report claims that Vancouver supports Gary Bettman's idea to
implement a goal that is worth "two-pts" when scored from the "field
of play" (a perimeter to be determined away from the goal crease).
This should open the game up quite a bit, reduce the number of attempts
to crash the net, clean up all the garbage that goes on in the slot,
and add a new dimension to the game from the point.

Does anyone know which report is actually true?

MC
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The Mad Kobold < Doug Norris >

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Jun 8, 1994, 3:13:24 PM6/8/94
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col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:

>In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
>(A Horse of course!!) writes:
>>Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
>>think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.

>Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
>them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
>conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...

>One report says that the Canucks are lobbying for the CFL to reduce
>field goals from 3 to 2 pts because of the high-scoring games inherent
>in the Canadian version of the sport. This should help teams like the
>B.C. Lions, which is also based in Vancouver, bid for a Grey Cup.

>Another report claims that Vancouver supports Gary Bettman's idea to
>implement a goal that is worth "two-pts" when scored from the "field
>of play" (a perimeter to be determined away from the goal crease).
>This should open the game up quite a bit, reduce the number of attempts
>to crash the net, clean up all the garbage that goes on in the slot,
>and add a new dimension to the game from the point.

>Does anyone know which report is actually true?

Yes. Absolutely. Uh huh.

(If you think I need a smilie here, you probably ought not be reading this.)

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George Ferguson

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Jun 8, 1994, 4:23:53 PM6/8/94
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>>>>> "MC" == Michael Collingridge <col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> writes:

MC> Another report claims that Vancouver supports Gary Bettman's idea to
MC> implement a goal that is worth "two-pts" when scored from the "field
MC> of play" (a perimeter to be determined away from the goal crease).

I talked to Gary on the phone last night and he said that in fact the
idea is for a two point "field goal" if a goal is scored on a shot
from over the blue line.

He also said they were looking to give players dumped after a goal is
scored a penalty shot "bonus".

George

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Alnoor Kassam

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Jun 8, 1994, 11:14:07 AM6/8/94
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A Horse of course!! (eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
: Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
: think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.

It actually says "2 Pts. F.G." in reference to what Frank Griffiths the Late
owner of Canucks used to say.
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Colin Layfield

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Jun 8, 1994, 2:51:51 PM6/8/94
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In article <1994Jun8.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:
>In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
>(A Horse of course!!) writes:
>>Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
>>think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.
>
>Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
>them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
>conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...
>
>One report says that the Canucks are lobbying for the CFL to reduce
>field goals from 3 to 2 pts because of the high-scoring games inherent
>in the Canadian version of the sport. This should help teams like the
>B.C. Lions, which is also based in Vancouver, bid for a Grey Cup.
>
>Another report claims that Vancouver supports Gary Bettman's idea to
>implement a goal that is worth "two-pts" when scored from the "field
>of play" (a perimeter to be determined away from the goal crease).
>This should open the game up quite a bit, reduce the number of attempts
>to crash the net, clean up all the garbage that goes on in the slot,
>and add a new dimension to the game from the point.
>
>Does anyone know which report is actually true?

I don't think any of the above is true. I think it has something to do
with one of the Canucks owners dying and his initials were F.G. (Frank Geffin
or something) and the idea was to get 2 points (A win) for him.

Colin Layfield | "I said what I meant and I've never pretended
| as so many others do intending just to please
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Michael Collingridge

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Jun 9, 1994, 3:57:54 PM6/9/94
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In article <Cr3Dq...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> layf...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Colin Layfield) writes:
>In article <1994Jun8.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:
>>In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
>>(A Horse of course!!) writes:
>>>Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
>>>think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
>>them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
>>conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...
>>
[bogus reports deleted]

>>
>>Does anyone know which report is actually true?
>
>I don't think any of the above is true. I think it has something to do
>with one of the Canucks owners dying and his initials were F.G. (Frank Geffin
>or something) and the idea was to get 2 points (A win) for him.

Well guess the Canucks did get one win for him. Too bad F.G. didn't
ask for a Cup.

Marnie Dunsmore

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Jun 10, 1994, 1:58:13 AM6/10/94
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In article <1994Jun9.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com>, col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:
| In article <Cr3Dq...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> layf...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Colin Layfield) writes:
| >In article <1994Jun8.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:
| >>In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
| >>(A Horse of course!!) writes:
| >>>Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means? I
| >>>think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.
| >>
| >>Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
| >>them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
| >>conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...
| >>
| [bogus reports deleted]
| >>
| >>Does anyone know which report is actually true?
| >
| >I don't think any of the above is true. I think it has something to do
| >with one of the Canucks owners dying and his initials were F.G. (Frank Geffin
| >or something) and the idea was to get 2 points (A win) for him.
|
| Well guess the Canucks did get one win for him. Too bad F.G. didn't
| ask for a Cup.
|

*****************************************************************************
* "2 Pts F.G." stands for "Two Points for Frank Griffiths" *
*****************************************************************************

Frank Griffiths, the original long suffering owner of the Vancouver Canucks, always
used to say "Two Points" whenever his team had a success. Frank Griffiths died
several months ago. To commemorate his passing, the team wears this patch.

His son, Arthur Griffiths, is now the owner of the team. He has been instrumental
in having the new Canucks/NBA Mounties (name not confirmed) Stadium built.

Arthur is about 5 feet, four inches tall. It was really funny to see Arthur and
Trevor Linden(6ft,4in) on the ice together, to accept the Cup for the Western
Conference Final.

Marnie Dunsmore


noga...@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu

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Jun 10, 1994, 1:04:48 PM6/10/94
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I'm pretty sure that the 2-pts patches that the Canucks are wearing are
in rememberence of Frank Geffin, the 'Nucks owner who died before the
playoffs started. Before each game, he would always say to the
players something along the lines of "OK, let's go out there and get 2
pts."

Valerie S. Hammerl

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Jun 10, 1994, 9:21:38 AM6/10/94
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In article <2t8vdm$8...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Marnie Dunsmore <mar...@ee.ubc.ca> wrote:

>
>His son, Arthur Griffiths, is now the owner of the team. He has been instrumental
>in having the new Canucks/NBA Mounties (name not confirmed) Stadium built.
>

I doubt any team will be named Mounties -- The RCMP recently
copyrighted their logo, uniformed image, nickname and name.

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William Riel

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Jun 10, 1994, 1:32:17 PM6/10/94
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In article <1994Jun10.120448.10502@guvax>,

You've got the story right, but the name just a little wrong - it's
in honour of Frank Griffiths who recently died. His son Arthur now
handles the Canucks (actually he has for a while now) and is building
a new arena to be called GM Place (Ack! :-O).

One of the more touching moments this playoff run occured when the
Canucks won the conference final. The recently widowed Mrs. Griffiths
was down at centre ice with Arthur and the celebrating Canucks.
She was in tears and pointed out a sign that read "Frank is smiling"
and she agreed that he certainly was.

Anyways, that ought ot be enough teary eyed sentimentality (is that
really a word?) for now. let's go Canucks!

Bill
ri...@unixg.ubc.ca

Joel Murray

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Jun 10, 1994, 1:53:37 PM6/10/94
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In article <2t8vdm$8...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, mar...@ee.ubc.ca (Marnie Dunsmore)
writes:

: Msg-ID: <2t8vdm$8...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
: References: <1994Jun9.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com>
: Posted: 10 Jun 1994 05:58:13 GMT
:
: Org. : UBC Electical Engineering
:
: Frank Griffiths, the original long suffering owner of the Vancouver


: Canucks, always used to say "Two Points" whenever his team had a
: success. Frank Griffiths died several months ago. To commemorate his
: passing, the team wears this patch.

Actually, Frank Griffiths was not the original owner. He bought the
Canucks in the mid-70's, I believe, when it looked as if the team might be
bought by out-of-town concerns and moved to another city.

The "two points" was what Mr. Griffiths said _before_ the games, as in
"Let's get the two points."

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structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.

Jason Cockroft

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Jun 10, 1994, 7:02:32 PM6/10/94
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Here's the scoop.

There was this crusty old fart up in Van called Frank Griffiths. He
owns the Canucks and all their radio affiliates. The cheap bastard
never forked over an extra penny for the Canucks for the years he
was alive. The team had 1 500 season in its first 20 years of existence.
This feet could only have been accomplished by some crusty old man
that milked the hockey enthusiam in western Canada. He never invested
in a good GM, coach or players during his life.

In any case, we have been told that good old frank used to have this
expression "win just 2pts". ie FG 2pts. All i've got to say is ...
yeah right. i never heard him say it. I'm sure nobody did. But
since his son owns the team now, i guess he tried to make his dear old
dad look good. Sorry Aurthor, your dad aint no Bob Johnson. Hey,
Frank may have been a great person -- but as a Hockey person he has
no marks in my books. I sure in hell, not going to remember the guy
as something great or one of the builders of the game ... as this cute
little patch is attempted to convey.

btw- GO Canucks!!!

-jake.

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Epicenter 209/16/5

Gary Harper

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Jun 10, 1994, 8:26:27 PM6/10/94
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>
> >Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means?
> I
> >think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.
>
> Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
> them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
> conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...
>
> One report says that the Canucks are lobbying for the CFL to reduce
> field goals from 3 to 2 pts because of the high-scoring games inherent
> in the Canadian version of the sport. This should help teams like the
> B.C. Lions, which is also based in Vancouver, bid for a Grey Cup.
>
> Another report claims that Vancouver supports Gary Bettman's idea to
> implement a goal that is worth "two-pts" when scored from the "field
> of play" (a perimeter to be determined away from the goal crease).
> This should open the game up quite a bit, reduce the number of attempts
> to crash the net, clean up all the garbage that goes on in the slot,
> and add a new dimension to the game from the point.
>
> Does anyone know which report is actually true?

Neither - the patch is a tribute to the Canuck's former owner, the late
Frank Griffiths, whose favourite expression was to tell the players to get
the "2 pnts" (for F. G.).

Gary Harper

Ray Lau

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col...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1994Jun8.1...@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com>
> References: <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu>
> Posted: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 16:06:38 GMT
>
> Org. : Applicon, Inc.; Ann Arbor, MI (USA)

>
> In article <2t3ja3$l...@news.service.uci.edu> eae...@rigel.oac.uci.edu
> (A Horse of course!!) writes:
> >Does anybody know what that patch on Pavel Bure's left shoulder means?
> I
> >think it says something like "2 Pts G.P.". Thanks in advance.
>
> Well, actually it says, "2 Pts F.G." and all the Canucks are wearing
> them. It stands for Two Points Field Goals, but there seems to be
> conflicting reports on what is the purpose for wearing the patch...
>


The patch "2 Pts F.G" stands for 2 Points Frank Griffiths. Griffiths was
the owner of the Canucks who passed away recently.

RAY

katherin...@gmail.com

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Absolutely wrong!! 2pts F.G. The late Frank Griffiths, owner ofthe Vancouver Canucks, always used to say before each game, 2 points boys, just 2 points. He passed away in April before the 94 playoff run. The boys all wore it in his memory. All playing for those 2 points for FG.
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