New Bauer Ice Skates worn by Lindros, Bure, etc?
John L.
Could someone help me out here?
Is Bauer making a new pair of hockey skates again? I am referring
to the ones Lindros and Bure are wearing. (looks kinda like the old
Micron Megas).
Thanks.
Brett Hobson
That'll be the new Vapour series which replaced the Bauer Air series, which
took over the Mega Air series (the best skates ever!). Hope that's helped!
Brett
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John L.
On 8 Mar 98 18:27:09 GMT, "Brett Hobson" <br...@hobson.powernet.co.uk>
wrote:
I don't think we will see them in stores until next season right? I
wonder how much they will cost considering the fact that a pair of
Air90s costs close to $400 now...
Toby Bussa
John L. wrote:
>
> On 8 Mar 98 18:27:09 GMT, "Brett Hobson" <br...@hobson.powernet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> I don't think we will see them in stores until next season right? I
> wonder how much they will cost considering the fact that a pair of
> Air90s costs close to $400 now...
>
I've seen two Canadian stores selling the Air 90's (1997 model) for
$190US.
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Brian D. Martin
>>That'll be the new Vapour series which replaced the Bauer Air series, which
>>took over the Mega Air series (the best skates ever!). Hope that's helped!
Had a lot of skates did we, I think the best skates (boots anyways) that
were ever made. Adidas, back in the 70's. Or the vacuum tacks from early
90's.
>>
>>Brett
>>
>>
>>John L. <jck...@connection.com> wrote in article
>><35031e79...@news.connection.com>...
>>> Could someone help me out here?
>>>
>>> Is Bauer making a new pair of hockey skates again? I am referring
>>> to the ones Lindros and Bure are wearing. (looks kinda like the old
>>> Micron Megas).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>
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John L.
Question:
Was the Mega Air series made by Micron?
On 12 Mar 1998 02:16:05 GMT, ay...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brian D.
MARYA HANSON
Who cares how much they cost . Bure is wearing them and look at what
they do for him If it could give you advantage like that. Spend the
money. I
Terry Pike
Joseph M. Funtal wrote:
>
>
> Then CanStar acquired Micron, then Nike acquired CanStar.
Don't you find it sad that nike bought out the best hockey equipment
manufacturer in the world? Soon after the did this they shut down a plant in
Ontario and moved it to Singapore or Malaysia, resulting in over 400 hard
working Canadians to lose their jobs. Now that nike has its hands on the
Bauer name, we are destined to pay inflated prices for a cheaply made,
inferior product. From now on, my money is going to CCM. At least i know im
paying for quality, not for those overplayed crappy commercials. Anyone who
buys into that crap has SUCKER written on their forehead.
Joseph M. Funtal
Hopefully, your not like one of those people that drink a certain type
of beer, because it makes you look beautiful; and beautiful people start
to hang around you!
You wouldn't be a Coors Light girl by chance, or a Nike Salesperson?
Joseph M. Funtal
John L. wrote:
>
> Question:
>
> Was the Mega Air series made by Micron?
Here's the history.
Micron started making hockey skates in the molded variety. They always
felt the best hockey skate is a plastic boot.
Their sales did not do well under this mentality. Their first try at
making a leather skate was the Micron Medalic. Plastic boot, ankle down
and leather up top. It was an attempt.
Then came the Micron 1090, circa 1989. This skate had more leather than
plastic. Notable trademark was the white toeclip. This was to keep the
bottom part of your skates tight. They used cork in the ankle. The
cork would mold around your foot, much like its competitor Bauer 1000
(at the time) with their *Flo-Light system.
Every year Micron made more changes to their 1090's. They increased the
plastic content in their boots every year. This was fullfilling their
dream of the ultimate plastic skate.
The final year of manufacture under Micron they changed the cork to Air
packets. These were the skates with the white plastic heel.
Then CanStar acquired Micron, then Nike acquired CanStar. Final
product, Bauer Air 90.
Hope this extended answer helped.
Joe
MARYA HANSON
no i'msorry i'm a molson ice kind of girl'
I'm difinently not workin for Nike eithier.
Just happen to think that if u want the best u have to be willing to
spend some money on it.....
John L.
Man do you work for Micron? Bauer? You seem to know alot. I have a
question (I have been wondering for a looong time). Are the Bauer
Air90s exactly the same as the Micron Mega 90s? (okay, ignore the
cost)? Are the Mega90s still better than the Air90s in terms of
comfort, support and performance?
John L.
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:15:34 -0800, Terry Pike <t_p...@cariboo.bc.ca>
wrote:
>
>
>Joseph M. Funtal wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Then CanStar acquired Micron, then Nike acquired CanStar.
>
>Don't you find it sad that nike bought out the best hockey equipment
>manufacturer in the world? Soon after the did this they shut down a plant in
>Ontario and moved it to Singapore or Malaysia, resulting in over 400 hard
>working Canadians to lose their jobs. Now that nike has its hands on the
>Bauer name, we are destined to pay inflated prices for a cheaply made,
>inferior product. From now on, my money is going to CCM. At least i know im
>paying for quality, not for those overplayed crappy commercials. Anyone who
>buys into that crap has SUCKER written on their forehead.
If you pay close attention to the Nike skates (all models), the
quality is really really bad. Even the Bauer skates are not as good
as before as many parts that were made of leather before have been
replaced with plastic pieces. ie: The ankle wrappings (the outer
shell) of the Air 90s (That's the top of the line in the Air series)
are made out of plastics (vinyl). I am really disappointed with
Nike... I can't blame Bauer b/c they are not the main boss anymore.
John Bradley
Terry Pike <t_p...@cariboo.bc.ca> writes:
>
>
>
> Joseph M. Funtal wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Then CanStar acquired Micron, then Nike acquired CanStar.
>
> Don't you find it sad that nike bought out the best hockey equipment
> manufacturer in the world? Soon after the did this they shut down a plant in
> Ontario and moved it to Singapore or Malaysia, resulting in over 400 hard
> working Canadians to lose their jobs. Now that nike has its hands on the
> Bauer name, we are destined to pay inflated prices for a cheaply made,
> inferior product. From now on, my money is going to CCM. At least i know im
> paying for quality, not for those overplayed crappy commercials. Anyone who
> buys into that crap has SUCKER written on their forehead.
>
Is CCM still a viable company ? I was looking to buy stock in a hockey
equipment manufacturere two years ago. It took a little leg work to find
that Bauer/Cooper were owned by CanStar which was owned by Nike and CCM
were owned by SLM International which were bankrupt and not trading on
an exchange. SLMI was having problems with several of its subsidiaries,
including CCM. There were lawsuits from injured parties who were wearing
CCM helmets and environmental problems at a plant in New Hampshire or
Vermont. I didn't buy anything, because SLMI was a dog and I definitely
didn't want Nike.
Has CCM's business prospects improved in the last few years ? Will they
skimp on quality as Nike has to reduce costs ?
John Bradley
j...@panix.com
Toby Bussa
John L. wrote:
>
> If you pay close attention to the Nike skates (all models), the
> quality is really really bad. Even the Bauer skates are not as good
> as before as many parts that were made of leather before have been
> replaced with plastic pieces. ie: The ankle wrappings (the outer
> shell) of the Air 90s (That's the top of the line in the Air series)
> are made out of plastics (vinyl). I am really disappointed with
> Nike... I can't blame Bauer b/c they are not the main boss anymore.
There is a small problem in your logic. Micron (bought by Canstar which
owns bauer) believed that an all plastic boot was preferable to a
leather boot. The Mega Air 90 is almost identical to the Air 90 and was
a design decision, not a cheapness decision. Now, as for what Nike is
doing to hockey... don't get me started.
Joseph M. Funtal
> >
> >Every year Micron made more changes to their 1090's. They increased the
> >plastic content in their boots every year. This was fullfilling their
> >dream of the ultimate plastic skate.
> >
> >The final year of manufacture under Micron they changed the cork to Air
> >packets. These were the skates with the white plastic heel.
> >
> >Then CanStar acquired Micron, then Nike acquired CanStar. Final
> >product, Bauer Air 90.
> >
> >Hope this extended answer helped.
> >Joe
>
> Man do you work for Micron? Bauer? You seem to know alot. I have a
> question (I have been wondering for a looong time). Are the Bauer
> Air90s exactly the same as the Micron Mega 90s? (okay, ignore the
> cost)? Are the Mega90s still better than the Air90s in terms of
> comfort, support and performance?
Please let the record show that someone asked why I know so much (This
is not a promotion). I worked 10 years of my life at Rupp's Sporting
Goods. http://www.rupps.com/ Then I graduated College, and had to get
a real job. Playing hockey didn't pay the bills, just the equipment.
In answer to your question, think of it this way. If you have a
sprained ankle, would an ACE bandage or a splint feel better on it?
Based on how you answered that is how you view support. If you like
rigidity in your boot like a ski boot, you would like theAir90s. The
ACE bandage supports your ankle, but doesn't restrict movement.
Unfortunately, all the skates that have come out in the past couple of
years have become more rigid (with plastic).
Now, with the Air90s, they will last longer, and will not break down as
easy. The old Mega90s would be extremely lucky to get 2 seasons out of
them.
The Air90's were easier to break in, because of Air packets compared to
cork packets. However, the Air90's already know where your foot SHOULD
bend. The Mega90s, you had to break in yourself, but once you did, they
formed to your foot very well.
Remember, the best skate is the skate that fits, supports, protects and
(the biggest one) feels best on your foot. (Kind of goes against pay
big bucks for the best equipment.)
Look at the pro's. They wear the best gloves because it's visible, and
they get them for free. Ever see what kind of shoulder pads they wear?
85% of the pros (Ulf excluded) wear old Cooper SP90's. Why, they feel
good, and noone is going to pay them to wear shoulder pads.
Seeing all the posts about what equipment do the pros wear, kinda got
under my skin. Be yourself, pick your own. You can't play your best if
you don't feel good wearing the stuff.
(Sound of me getting of my box)
Sorry, hope what I said helped. If you have any further questions, feel
free to e-mail me. (remove the nospam from e-mail)
Joe
John L.
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:34 -0500, Toby Bussa <tbu...@emory.edu>
wrote:
>John L. wrote:
>>
>> If you pay close attention to the Nike skates (all models), the
>> quality is really really bad. Even the Bauer skates are not as good
>> as before as many parts that were made of leather before have been
>> replaced with plastic pieces. ie: The ankle wrappings (the outer
>> shell) of the Air 90s (That's the top of the line in the Air series)
>> are made out of plastics (vinyl). I am really disappointed with
>> Nike... I can't blame Bauer b/c they are not the main boss anymore.
>
>There is a small problem in your logic. Micron (bought by Canstar which
>owns bauer) believed that an all plastic boot was preferable to a
>leather boot. The Mega Air 90 is almost identical to the Air 90 and was
>a design decision, not a cheapness decision. Now, as for what Nike is
>doing to hockey... don't get me started.
Okay... Then I don't understand Micron's theory " an all plastic boot
is better than a leather boot". Some area should be made out of
leather right? Particularly the ankle wrappings. Shouldn't those be
leather since during hockey the ankle area always get slashed by
sticks, cut by other skates etc etc.. I know Bauer is famour for
quality so shouldn't they use leather for the Air90s' ankle area
(unless they wanted the Air90 to be exactly the same as the Micron
90s)
Now my main question... How come the Mega 90s are so popular?? Do
they fit better? last longer? What are the differences between
Air90s and Mega90s (other than the Bauer logo)?
Toby Bussa
John L. wrote:
>
> Okay... Then I don't understand Micron's theory " an all plastic boot
> is better than a leather boot". Some area should be made out of
> leather right? Particularly the ankle wrappings. Shouldn't those be
> leather since during hockey the ankle area always get slashed by
> sticks, cut by other skates etc etc.. I know Bauer is famour for
> quality so shouldn't they use leather for the Air90s' ankle area
> (unless they wanted the Air90 to be exactly the same as the Micron
> 90s)
>
> Now my main question... How come the Mega 90s are so popular?? Do
> they fit better? last longer? What are the differences between
> Air90s and Mega90s (other than the Bauer logo)?
Well, I know that the composite technology was added to the Air 90
model. I feel like the Air 70's (which I use now) are closer to the Mega
90's because of this. Both models have leather, but the ankle
support/strap integrated into the boot is plastic (over leather?). Even
CCM has slowly evolved to this point. The 952's are quite a bit plastic
(Wedge III, Lace Bite insert, etc.) and composite materials. The new
Edge 4.x series even more so.
In my opinion, the Airs are very comfortable when broken in and retain
their stiffness much longer than conventional leather boots (i.e., Bauer
Custom and Supreme series). But even this is subject to debate.
Depending on what the new Vapor series looks like (and weighs!), it may
be time for some Grafs. Again, it's a matter of personal preference.