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Jody

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Apr 30, 2004, 10:32:04 AM4/30/04
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One of my friend's is having trouble figuring out which hand she shoots.

Up till now, she has shot right handed(her dominant hand judging from other
sports etc) in floor hockey, but everytime she plays, it looks like she
wants to shoot left. I have had her shoot with my spare leftie stick and she
alternates between both ways (backhand she reverses her hands as if she were
a righty)

Both hands seem to be consistent as for shot power and accuracy.

Is there a tried and true method to figuring this out?

jo


Cam Penner

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Apr 30, 2004, 11:56:03 AM4/30/04
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In article <krtkc.28657$k%.686160@news20.bellglobal.com>,
jodyNOSPA...@hotmail.com says...

Play with a straight stick. Then it doesn't matter. It
confuses the heck out of goalies too. I'd try to encourage
not flipping hands instead of doing backhands. With a
straight stick she can play alternate shifts alternate
ways, or adapt her handedness to which side she is playing
on.

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Richard Henry

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Apr 30, 2004, 1:28:35 PM4/30/04
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"Jody" <jodyNOSPA...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I am naturally right-handed. When I was young and ignorant, I played
left-sided with a straight stick. It just felt better. Now I use a leftie
curved stick in the backyard games with my kids (one a natural leftie).

Aside: When I first picked up a lacrosse stick, I put it in a leftie hold
without thinking.

Jody

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Apr 30, 2004, 3:20:58 PM4/30/04
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> > Both hands seem to be consistent as for shot power and accuracy.
> >
> > Is there a tried and true method to figuring this out?
>
> Play with a straight stick. Then it doesn't matter. It
> confuses the heck out of goalies too. I'd try to encourage
> not flipping hands instead of doing backhands. With a

Hm. Not a bad suggestion...Think i'll suggest it to her. Thx!
jo


Doug Norris

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Apr 30, 2004, 3:39:12 PM4/30/04
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"Jody" <jodyNOSPA...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One of my friend's is having trouble figuring out which hand she shoots.

When we work with young players, we usually ask them to hold it with the
same handedness as they would to sweep with a broom.

Of course, working with young goalies, we usually start them out shooting
the way that they have to to use the youth league's equipment. :-)

Doug


Realto Margarino

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Apr 30, 2004, 3:48:52 PM4/30/04
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I was like CuJo. I had to switch the stick to my other hand to
handle the puck. I always blamed this handicap as the reason I
never made the NHL. But since CuJo lives with it, I guess there
might have been another reason I didnd't make it. Who knew?

cordially, as always,

rm

O.

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Apr 30, 2004, 4:06:11 PM4/30/04
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:28:35 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rph...@home.com> wrote:

>>I am naturally right-handed. When I was young and ignorant, I played

>left-sided with a straight stick. It just felt better. [...]


>
>Aside: When I first picked up a lacrosse stick, I put it in a leftie hold
>without thinking.

Same here (with a hockey stick), and a related aside (a dumb one, in my case):
if I see something (ball, puck, rocks & garbage) flying towards me and I'm not
expecting it, I instinctively use my left hand to catch/block it. If I have a
second or two to think, I'll use my right hand. If I have about a half-second
to think, I'll generally split the difference and catch it with my face.

Even further aside, and dumber: about ten years ago, I read an article about
how children who might be latently left-handed, or have no dominant hand, are
usually taught to use their right as a matter of course. I wondered if this
was the case with me, so I thought I'd practice writing with my left hand to
see if I could do it.

This was just after the Toronto Blue Jays' World Series wins, and I was still
a bandwagon fan; I watched most of their evening games, and I don't generally
do much my hands while watching baseball on television, so I used that as my
semi-regular practice schedule. Unfortunately, the Jays were absolutely awful
that year, and by the middle of June I'd given up on both.

Here's what I learned in two and a half months: printing left-handed is one
thing, but writing in cursive left-to-right on a page is entirely another.
Left-handedness has historically been associated with creativity and mental
agility; however, I wonder if it's less heredity and more the result of the
constant mental exercise required to perform simple everyday tasks left-handed
in an overwhelmingly right-handed environment.

Next time, I'll try learning to mentally break my sentences into line-sized
fragments, and then write out each line right-to-left; it'd be neater, a neat
trick, and it might just be easier, too.

It will also come in handy if I ever decide that I'm latently Jewish.


- O.

bri719

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Apr 30, 2004, 4:50:08 PM4/30/04
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O. wrote:

>
> Same here (with a hockey stick), and a related aside (a dumb one, in my case):
> if I see something (ball, puck, rocks & garbage) flying towards me and I'm not
> expecting it, I instinctively use my left hand to catch/block it. If I have a
> second or two to think, I'll use my right hand. If I have about a half-second
> to think, I'll generally split the difference and catch it with my face.


same here. I never thought of it that way....but it's true. however
that doesn't ALWAYS determine how someone should hold a hockey stick.
many a baseball player throws right but bats left.

thus, I suggest someone ask the person in question to grip a baseball
bat. their bottom hand swinging at a baseball should be their top hand
in hockey. check it out - it's true. it's my left for both, being that
I both bat and swing a hockey stick right handed.

a secondary factor I like to consider would be to see which footed-ness
they are. have them stand with their back to you and push them. if
they step with their left they're right footed, if they step with their
right, the opposite. since I push off with my right foot and stride
with my left I'm "normal" (righty) and this happens to correspond to how
I shoot the stick - righty. but that's just me; I've never heard any
official confirmation of this having any difference from a coach or
expert. the fact that my stick generally dangles to my right as I'm
pushing off with my left seems to make perfect sense to me though.

use the baseball bat trick and I'm sure you'll have no problem! same
can be done with a golf club too...bottom is your "control" hand in
baseball, in golf or hockey it's the top.

bri

Doug Norris

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Apr 30, 2004, 6:32:36 PM4/30/04
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"Realto Margarino" <boo...@eewwww.org> wrote in message
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Cujo wasn't drafted, so maybe there's a bias there against goaltenders
like the two of you who flip the stick over to play the puck.

I'm lucky that I started as a goaltender so I was "forced" into shooting
left. Now I've got a pretty good handle on it, for the most part.

Doug


Joe Cunningham

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Apr 30, 2004, 7:09:09 PM4/30/04
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I am right handed and I shoot left.

I took some golf lessons about 5 years ago. The pro had me go out to the
range and hit some balls with my 5 iron. He was amazed I could even hit the
ball straight because I was STRONGLY right handed and said that I was
pushing the club w/ my right rather than pulling it with my left hand. I
guess I was compensating somehow in my swing--the same type of compensation
pros use with their pitching wedges (which was my best club).

He suggested I get some left-handed clubs and my game would probably improve
(he gave me lots of help if I chose to stick with 'regular' clubs). The
frustration level was far too high, so I ditched playing golf about a year
later, but as a recent adult hockey player, I remembered what he said about
my handedness.

I tried both right and left sticks, and while I could do OK with the
right-handed stick, I could control the puck and shoot better with the left.


Richard Henry

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Apr 30, 2004, 7:37:36 PM4/30/04
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"O." <oswald_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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My left-handed son learned to swing a baseball bat by watching his older
brother. When I insisted that he bat leftie, he resisted at first. Now he
is a switch-hitter.

In Kindergarten, the teacher showed my wife when she visited that he would
write across the page starting with his left hand and switch to his right
hand mid-page to finish the line.


Roy A. Fletcher

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Apr 30, 2004, 11:51:51 PM4/30/04
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Cam Penner (Cam.Penner.news1ATpleasedo...@hotmail.com) wrote:
with editing...
: I'd try to encourage not flipping hands instead of doing backhands.

Gordie Howe always advised young players to learn to change the
position of the hands on the stick. He encouraged Gretzky to the
learn the move.

Regards. RAF

Ian Merrithew

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May 1, 2004, 10:36:13 PM5/1/04
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:50:08 -0700, bri719 wrote:

> thus, I suggest someone ask the person in question to grip a baseball
> bat. their bottom hand swinging at a baseball should be their top hand
> in hockey. check it out - it's true.

Lots of guys I used to play both ball & hockey with didn't follow this,
being right-hand batters and left-hand shots. I bat & shoot right, though.

I've had to teach myself to shoot left-handed when playing goal, too, at
least well enough to clear out a loose puck, since I catch with my left
hand. Takes way too long to flip the stick around like Joseph does, I
find, and then you run into the problem of the stick being curved the
wrong way.

--
Ian Merrithew - ADM Systems Engineering
ian.merrithew "at" ieee.org

bri719

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May 3, 2004, 6:23:06 PM5/3/04
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hmmm, I'll take your word for it. never knew of that before :-)

I could never be a left handed shot in hockey, I know that much. well I
could, but it would have no effectiveness!

I can imagine the conundrum you describe in goal however...

bri

bri719

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May 3, 2004, 7:20:24 PM5/3/04
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Richard Henry wrote:

> My left-handed son learned to swing a baseball bat by watching his older
> brother. When I insisted that he bat leftie, he resisted at first. Now he
> is a switch-hitter.

similar to this:

Phil Mickelson learned to play golf by watching his dad who was right
handed and mimicking him while facing the man. thus he plays golf left
handed. pretty cool story, in case anyone wondered how he ended up
playing that way.

I forgot to add that I can pretty much play baseball right or left
handed. same with soccer - I was adept with either foot even though the
right came first and was natural. I'm about twice as good with a bat
righty as I am lefty, but I discovered left wasn't really a problem as a
college freshman doing intramurals, when they made all males bat the
opposite way in coed softball.

bri

Malcolm Preen

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May 7, 2004, 4:51:48 AM5/7/04
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Ah, one of my favourite hockey topics.....

About seven years ago I did a survey on the internet, and wrote an
article... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolm.preen/leftvright.html

When I first started to play, I assumed I'd be a righty, as I am at
everything else... this discussion came up on the internet (I have the
original saved if you want me to forward it... its dated October 1991).

As such, I bought a right stick (can't get straight sticks in the UK). I
tried it, and I couldn't shoot for the life of me.

I borrowed a left stick, and still couldn't shoot :-( So I decided to stick
with the lefty, and practice.... I've got better (slightly).

Four players I've directly introduced into the game shoot left all having
had the same dilemma as myself.

Perhaps its time to repeat the survey....

Malcolm
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Joe Cunningham

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May 7, 2004, 12:57:56 PM5/7/04
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Interesting read. In my beginner class in California, we had a pretty good
mix of Americans and foreign-born players (Canada, France, India, China,
South Korea, Mexico). It seemed that those who played other 'stick' sports
tended to go with their dominant hand on the bottom (right-handed shoot
right).

I grew up playing baseball, soccer, and American football (gridiron), and
pretty much stunk at baseball. I played a lot of street hockey at Uni
(always shooting right). But about 8 years passed w/o playing any organized
sport, and when I picked up my first stick during an impromtu skate-n-shoot,
I borrowed a right hand stick. Couldn't control the puck or shoot very
well. I tried a left hand stick and immediately felt more at ease
controlling the puck, but shooting felt quite weird. Once in the class, and
I learned how to shoot properly, that weird feeling went away.

I chatted with one of my classmates last night and he was surprised I shot
lefty--he is right-handed too, but just couldn't ge tthe feel for the
left-hand stick. He still plays organized softball, so maybe his batting is
still influencing him.

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Chris Bolus

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May 10, 2004, 7:55:59 AM5/10/04
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 16:57:56 GMT, "Joe Cunningham"
<joNseOphcSu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Interesting read. In my beginner class in California, we had a pretty good
>mix of Americans and foreign-born players (Canada, France, India, China,
>South Korea, Mexico). It seemed that those who played other 'stick' sports
>tended to go with their dominant hand on the bottom (right-handed shoot
>right).
>
>I grew up playing baseball, soccer, and American football (gridiron), and
>pretty much stunk at baseball. I played a lot of street hockey at Uni
>(always shooting right). But about 8 years passed w/o playing any organized
>sport, and when I picked up my first stick during an impromtu skate-n-shoot,
>I borrowed a right hand stick. Couldn't control the puck or shoot very
>well. I tried a left hand stick and immediately felt more at ease
>controlling the puck, but shooting felt quite weird. Once in the class, and
>I learned how to shoot properly, that weird feeling went away.
>
>I chatted with one of my classmates last night and he was surprised I shot
>lefty--he is right-handed too, but just couldn't ge tthe feel for the
>left-hand stick. He still plays organized softball, so maybe his batting is
>still influencing him.

After years of playing field hockey, where there is no left-hand stick,
I just could not change the habit of left hand at the top. I'm still a
poor shooter but I just can't make the change.


>
>"Malcolm Preen" <malcol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>> About seven years ago I did a survey on the internet, and wrote an
>> article... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolm.preen/leftvright.html
>

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Richard Henry

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May 10, 2004, 9:55:34 AM5/10/04
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"Chris Bolus" <ch...@b0lusPUCK.com> wrote in message
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>
> After years of playing field hockey, where there is no left-hand stick,
> I just could not change the habit of left hand at the top. I'm still a
> poor shooter but I just can't make the change.

When lacrosse sticks were made of a single bent piece of wood with the net
woven into the hook, they were made left- and right-handed. The current
metal/plastic sticks are symmetrical. However, the rules still state that a
player may not use a left-handed stick on a faceoff.

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