My Itech Concept II keeps fogging! Help!
col...@mediaone.net
I recently bought an Itech Concept II Deluxe shield, or as Itech calls
them, a "facial". The problem is that it keeps fogging up! This is the
model that's all plastic, one piece, not the "combo" style, which is
half plastic and half wire/metal. The mask has an inner layer of a thin
vinyl-like material that's supposed to prevent fogging, but it sure
doesn't for me.
I've tried rinsing it with warm water, rinsing with cold water, drying
it off, adjusting it so it is further away from my face, adjusting it so
it is higher on my face - nothing has worked. And I'm out of ideas.
I've seen lots of teams that use these a lot - Boston College and the
Women's Olympic team, to name two. They would seem to work for them.
Has anyone out there got a technique that works? I'm really getting
annoyed and desperate. Does the "combo" style have less of a problem?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Wayne
col...@mediaone.net
Unfortunately, I probably can't return it at this point, although I may
try anyway. I was wondering about the half and half models. My brother
has an older one that he uses (pre-antifog), and it seems to work okay
for him using some kind of antifog spray. But as I mentioned, I see
these newer, all plastic mask used a lot. What are those people doing
to make it work for them?
I do have to add that I was using a cage before. The increased,
unobstructed visibility is very worthwhile, and it's much lighter, too.
I'd really like to find a solution, if there is one...
Whistle19 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My best advice for you: Return it, get your money back, buy a full cage. The
> 1/2 shield, 1/2 cage fogs too.
>
> I have coached from mites through high school varsity. Despite the lofty
> claims, that shield fogs. The advice I just gave you is the advice I have given
> players and parents for years....
>
> Tony J
> WHIS...@HOTMAIL.COM
Whistle19
William C Wendel
fog up, and it does. I like it a lot better than the cage, actually,
other than the fogging. Oh well, I guess it's either a cage or fog.
Pick whichever is the lesser of 2 evils to you.
bc
Steve Olson
helmet visors. I've heard that stuff works well for hockey visors, too.
- Steve
col...@mediaone.net wrote in message <36426D...@mediaone.net>...
Rob Murray
Just before the game, dab some dish detergent on a dish towel and rub it on
the shield, wait 30 seconds or so and buff it off. You will have to repeat
this before every game so it is useful to keep a towel and small container
of dish detergent in your bag. It also helps to take the towel on the bench
to wipe the inside as you may get some water condensation (not fog). This
works for me and my kids. I have never had any luck with the over the
counter anti fog stuff.
Rob
col...@mediaone.net wrote in article <36426D...@mediaone.net>...
> Help me, fellow players, please:
>
> I recently bought an Itech Concept II Deluxe shield, or as Itech calls
> them, a "facial". The problem is that it keeps fogging up!
Whistle19
Sorry about the short reply last night I was tired and had just gotten home
from refing. Let me add some other thoughts and obervations:
I ref also. I use the 1/2 shield to protect my face when refing. I used the
clear shield for refing initially because I couldn't find a 1/2 cage.
Anyway....I used an ITECH (I'm not sure of the model), it fogged horribly no
matter what I put on it, and got scratched badly no matter what I did to
protect it. I switched last year to the CCM clear 1/2 shield. I'm having no
fogging problems (I don't have to put anything on it), and the scratching is
non existant (and I'm protecting this shield the same as I did the ITECH). I
apologize for sounding anti-ITECH, but my experiences with that brand have been
nothing but bad. Fogging and scratches aside I have seen the 1/2 shield 1/2
cage come apart when a player gets hit hard. The clear shield just popped right
out. I'm not sure why, but, the fact of the matter remains it came out. In all
fairness I have no idea how the full CCM shield is (right now all of the
players I coach use a full cage). I have noticed that the CCM and the EXCEL are
more optical than the ITECH is, and I have found the visibilty with the CCM
shield much better than the ITECH one I had. A friend of mine recently
purchased the 1/2 Excel shield and it's shape is similar to that of the CCM and
thus far (1 month into using it) he is having no fogging or vision problems.
Tony
mroeder
> Help me, fellow players, please:
>
> I recently bought an Itech Concept II Deluxe shield, or as Itech calls
> them, a "facial". The problem is that it keeps fogging up! This is the
> model that's all plastic, one piece, not the "combo" style, which is
> half plastic and half wire/metal. The mask has an inner layer of a thin
> vinyl-like material that's supposed to prevent fogging, but it sure
> doesn't for me.
>
> I've tried rinsing it with warm water, rinsing with cold water, drying
> it off, adjusting it so it is further away from my face, adjusting it so
> it is higher on my face - nothing has worked. And I'm out of ideas.
> I've seen lots of teams that use these a lot - Boston College and the
> Women's Olympic team, to name two. They would seem to work for them.
>
> Has anyone out there got a technique that works? I'm really getting
> annoyed and desperate. Does the "combo" style have less of a problem?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Wayne
>
> col...@mediaone.net
I'm a goalie; without my glasses I'm terribly nearsighted. (Some say I'm
nearsighted even with my glasses, but that's a different matter.) I wear
Rec Specs, and they used to fog up in three minutes. Before every game I
spray Fog Buster on them, then clean them carefully with a lint-free
cotton cloth (my t-shirt). I once cleaned my regular glasses with the
stuff; how when I exhale on them to get a fog to clean them (that's
distilled water, you know) they don't fog up either.
See if your hockey pro shop has Fog Buster ... in a little white bottle
with a hockey guy graphic. The blue stuff in the clear bottle doesn't work
as well.
Larry Boyd
> Help me, fellow players, please:
>
> I recently bought an Itech Concept II Deluxe shield, or as Itech calls
> them, a "facial". The problem is that it keeps fogging up! This is the
> model that's all plastic, one piece, not the "combo" style, which is
> half plastic and half wire/metal. The mask has an inner layer of a thin
> vinyl-like material that's supposed to prevent fogging, but it sure
> doesn't for me.
>
> I've tried rinsing it with warm water, rinsing with cold water, drying
> it off, adjusting it so it is further away from my face, adjusting it so
> it is higher on my face - nothing has worked. And I'm out of ideas.
> I've seen lots of teams that use these a lot - Boston College and the
> Women's Olympic team, to name two. They would seem to work for them.
>
> Has anyone out there got a technique that works? I'm really getting
> annoyed and desperate. Does the "combo" style have less of a problem?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Wayne
A couple of things you can try that have been successful for me:
1) Commercial antifoggers. Most do work but not for very long. I 've
found that I had to apply before every game with every product I tried.
2) Any kind of liquid soap (dishwashing liquid, shampoo and such). I
carry a couple of the hotel sized bottle in my bag. Works just as well as
the commercial stuff with the advantage of being cheap (free if you pick
it up in the hotel). I just rub it on with the fingers let it sit for a
couple of minutes the buff it off with a towel or other cloth.
3) The thing that has worked the best for me though is wearing a bandana.
Yep, that's right, I said bandana. Since I started doing this about a
year or so ago I haven't had to use soap on the face shield once and it
has the added avantage of keeping the sweat out of the eyes.
Hope this helps,
Big D.
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MIXITUP33
>fog up, and it does. I like it a lot better than the cage, actually,
>other than the fogging. Oh well, I guess it's either a cage or fog.
>Pick whichever is the
TAKE OFF THE VISOR
CMA818
>you can always buy commercial defogger but... why spend the money?
>
>Andre
My brother in law is a goalie, but plays with his glasses on. He swears
rubbing toothpaste on his glasses or visors is another remedy.
CHRIS ANDERSON #42
LETS GO ISLANDERS!!!!!
mroeder
mixi...@aol.com (MIXITUP33) wrote:
Have you considered that there might be a *reason* he plays with a visor?
col...@mediaone.net
Several people suggested using liquid dish detergent (as Rob did,
below). I've tried this a couple of times, and it seems to be working
pretty well. So I guess the bottom line is that the anti-fog claims
aren't for real.
Thanks again to everyone to responded.
-Wayne
Rob Murray wrote:
>
> Give this a try.
>
> Just before the game, dab some dish detergent on a dish towel and rub it on
> the shield, wait 30 seconds or so and buff it off. You will have to repeat
> this before every game so it is useful to keep a towel and small container
> of dish detergent in your bag. It also helps to take the towel on the bench
> to wipe the inside as you may get some water condensation (not fog). This
> works for me and my kids. I have never had any luck with the over the
> counter anti fog stuff.
>
> Rob
>
> col...@mediaone.net wrote in article <36426D...@mediaone.net>...
> > Help me, fellow players, please:
> >
> > I recently bought an Itech Concept II Deluxe shield, or as Itech calls
> > them, a "facial". The problem is that it keeps fogging up!
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
> > Wayne
> >
> > col...@mediaone.net
> >
Ashley H. Darmer
did the trick for me (probably same results as the liquid dish
detergent). I quit using the mask because I didn't get enough
ventilation and found that I overheated a lot. So, I went back to the
wire mask.