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Which Goalie Gets the Win/Loss?

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Christopher Scot Butler

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Apr 18, 1991, 2:57:13 PM4/18/91
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If two or more goalies play for a team in a single game, which goalie
will get credit for a win? Which will get credit for a loss?

Also, are there any penalties that will place the goalie (not a
substitute for him) in the penalty box?

thanks,

Chris Butler & Tom Sullivan

c...@beach.wustl.edu or t...@earth.wustl.edu

Guyerik Bready Fullerton

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Apr 18, 1991, 3:49:13 PM4/18/91
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In article <1991Apr18.1...@cec1.wustl.edu> c...@beach.wustl.edu (Christopher Scot Butler) writes:
>If two or more goalies play for a team in a single game, which goalie
>will get credit for a win? Which will get credit for a loss?

The goalie who is on the ice for the game winning/game tieing goal gets
the result.

Wierd Question:
Consider this scenario: Team A has 3 goals, Team B has 3 goals. For some
incredibly unexpected reason (no delayed penalty), Team A pulls the goalie.
Team B then scores into the empty net. Does the goalie for Team A get a
loss?

>Also, are there any penalties that will place the goalie (not a
>substitute for him) in the penalty box?

Good Question! Anybody else know?

>
>thanks,
>
>Chris Butler & Tom Sullivan
>
>c...@beach.wustl.edu or t...@earth.wustl.edu

no problem,

Guy Fullerton
gful...@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

Dave Wessels

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Apr 18, 1991, 8:27:56 PM4/18/91
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c...@beach.wustl.edu (Christopher Scot Butler) writes:

>If two or more goalies play for a team in a single game, which goalie
>will get credit for a win? Which will get credit for a loss?

The win (or loss) goes to the goalie in net at the time the winning
goal is scored.

>Also, are there any penalties that will place the goalie (not a
>substitute for him) in the penalty box?

Goalies can be ejected from the game in the same manner as other
players, other than that I think all penalties are served by a substitue.

dave

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Mike Machnik

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Apr 23, 1991, 4:48:00 PM4/23/91
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In article <280DF83...@ics.uci.edu> gful...@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Guyerik Bready Fullerton) writes:
>In article <1991Apr18.1...@cec1.wustl.edu> c...@beach.wustl.edu (Christopher Scot Butler) writes:
>Consider this scenario: Team A has 3 goals, Team B has 3 goals. For some
>incredibly unexpected reason (no delayed penalty), Team A pulls the goalie.
>Team B then scores into the empty net. Does the goalie for Team A get a
>loss?

Yes, he was the "goalie of record" at the time. Another goalie had not
replaced him in the net prior to the goal being scored. Now, if you
alter this question to read the following (not very likely), then I
don't know the answer.

With the score tied, Team A's goalie goes out to break up a play at the
top of the circle; he gets injured and drags himself to the bench so
the backup can make it in while his teammates try to clear the puck.
(Whistle should have been blown, but let's say it wasn't.) Team B
scores just as Team A's goalies are changing. Who gets the loss?

I won't hold it against anyone who thinks this is too farfetched to even
waste time answering.

>>Also, are there any penalties that will place the goalie (not a
>>substitute for him) in the penalty box?
>
>Good Question! Anybody else know?

Well, in US college hockey, besides the penalties that will get a goalie
ejected from a game, which have already been mentioned (i.e. game
disqualification), if a goalie incurs a misconduct or a major (no DQ) he
must leave the game and serve it himself. I believe this is the same in
the NHL, but someone will probably correct me if it isn't. I recall this
happening in an Alaska-Fairbanks at Northeastern game in early 1988. The
UAF goalie was hit with a major for slashing early in the game and went
to the penalty box. UAF's backup came in and played five minutes;
when the penalty was up, the #1 goalie skated across the ice to the bench
so they could get a fifth skater on, then when UAF moved the puck up the
ice, the goalies switched. But for a few seconds, UAF was playing with
two goalies. How 'bout that.

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Dave Wessels

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Apr 23, 1991, 5:42:00 PM4/23/91
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mik...@apollo.HP.COM (Mike Machnik) writes:

> Yes, he was the "goalie of record" at the time. Another goalie had not
> replaced him in the net prior to the goal being scored. Now, if you
> alter this question to read the following (not very likely), then I
> don't know the answer.

> With the score tied, Team A's goalie goes out to break up a play at the
> top of the circle; he gets injured and drags himself to the bench so
> the backup can make it in while his teammates try to clear the puck.
> (Whistle should have been blown, but let's say it wasn't.) Team B
> scores just as Team A's goalies are changing. Who gets the loss?

I might be incorrect on this, but I believe the goaltender is the only
position which CANNOT be changed "on the fly". If your goalie is injured
you must wait for a play stoppage to replace him. S

Dave Wessels

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Apr 23, 1991, 5:57:17 PM4/23/91
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mik...@apollo.HP.COM (Mike Machnik) writes:

>>>Also, are there any penalties that will place the goalie (not a
>>>substitute for him) in the penalty box?
>>
>>Good Question! Anybody else know?

> Well, in US college hockey, besides the penalties that will get a goalie
> ejected from a game, which have already been mentioned (i.e. game
> disqualification), if a goalie incurs a misconduct or a major (no DQ) he
> must leave the game and serve it himself. I believe this is the same in
> the NHL, but someone will probably correct me if it isn't. I recall this
> happening in an Alaska-Fairbanks at Northeastern game in early 1988. The
> UAF goalie was hit with a major for slashing early in the game and went
> to the penalty box. UAF's backup came in and played five minutes;
> when the penalty was up, the #1 goalie skated across the ice to the bench
> so they could get a fifth skater on, then when UAF moved the puck up the
> ice, the goalies switched. But for a few seconds, UAF was playing with
> two goalies. How 'bout that.

Weird! (a good stump-the-guys-in-the-bar question)
Well, was just flipping through my (10-years-out-of-date) copy of the NHL
rulebook, and unless things have changed a goalie does NOT serve his own
misconducts (10-min variety) or majors. However, if a goalie gets three
majors in a game he gets tossed (same as any other player).

Mark Aitken

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Apr 26, 1991, 1:29:24 AM4/26/91
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In article <dwessels.672442920@sanjuan> dwessels@sanjuan (Dave Wessels) writes:
>mik...@apollo.HP.COM (Mike Machnik) writes:
>
>> long scenario deleted

>
>I might be incorrect on this, but I believe the goaltender is the only
>position which CANNOT be changed "on the fly". If your goalie is injured
>you must wait for a play stoppage to replace him. S
>
>dave
>

No, I think not. Though you must be careful. I think this is illegal
if both goalies have their sticks, since only one "goaltender" is allowed
at once (due to diffences in equipment (the stick for sure)). But surely
no stoppage of play is required.

mark

mark

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