top 10 golies to play in the N.H.L since 1968
Lisa Kriwonos
In article <19970113151...@ladder01.news.aol.com> qsi...@aol.com (Qsidhu) writes:
>this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
>N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
>
>1. ken dryden
>2. v.tretiak
>3. p.roy
>4. tony espo
>5. g. cheevers
>6. g. fhur
>7. a.moog
>8. billy smith
>9. e. belfour
>tie 10. bezzer and richter
>
>these are the top golies to play against n.h.l compentition since 1968
>(67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
>success vs. the n.h.l .
>
>I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
>hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
>
>
I can't see rating Belfour, Beezer, Moog, Richter or even Tony O (who I
was a big fan of) over Bernie Parent.
Lisa
Qsidhu
Johnny
Qsidhu <qsi...@aol.com> wrote:
What about Bernie Parent? Can't argue with 2 cups. Flyers would have
had a third had he not been injured. Off the top of my head, neither
Belfour or Beizer have any. I would put Hexy, Lindburgh, or Barasso
over those 2 guys.
Johnny--Let's go FLYERS!!!
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Vigneault Michel
qsi...@aol.com (Qsidhu) writes:
>this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
>N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
>1. ken dryden
>2. v.tretiak
>3. p.roy
>4. tony espo
>5. g. cheevers
>6. g. fhur
>7. a.moog
>8. billy smith
>9. e. belfour
>tie 10. bezzer and richter
>these are the top golies to play against n.h.l compentition since 1968
>(67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
>success vs. the n.h.l .
>I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
>hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
What about Glenn Hall and Jacques Plante of the St. Louis Blues? I know they were at the end of their respective careers, but they were still good then, winning a Vezina Trophy. As for the rest, nothing else to add.
Michel Vigneault
Brian Sculac
Qsidhu wrote:
>
> this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
> N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
>
> 1. ken dryden
> 2. v.tretiak
> 3. p.roy
> 4. tony espo
> 5. g. cheevers
> 6. g. fhur
> 7. a.moog
> 8. billy smith
> 9. e. belfour
> tie 10. bezzer and richter
>
> these are the top golies to play against n.h.l compentition since 1968
> (67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
> success vs. the n.h.l .
>
> I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
> hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
Hey, where's Cujo? He should definitely be in that list.
Chuck Broward
Qsidhu <qsi...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970113151...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
> N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
>
> 1. ken dryden
> 2. v.tretiak
> 3. p.roy
> 4. tony espo
> 5. g. cheevers
> 6. g. fhur
> 7. a.moog
> 8. billy smith
> 9. e. belfour
> tie 10. bezzer and richter
>
> these are the top golies to play against n.h.l compentition since 1968
> (67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
> success vs. the n.h.l .
>
> I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
> hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
>
Sorry Charlie, but where's Bernie Parent????
Lisa Kriwonos
Not to mention that Tretiak never played in the NHL. The topic does say
top goalies to play in the NHL since 1968.
Lisa
Sean J. Follis
> >> this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
^^^^^
> Not to mention that Tretiak never played in the NHL. The topic does say
> top goalies to play in the NHL since 1968.
>
> Lisa
But he DOES specify within his post. Tretiak is easily one of the top
ten best to play AGAINST NHL competition, although I definitely disagree
with some of his other picks.
Sean Follis
University of Waterloo
Michael Kelly
qsi...@aol.com (Qsidhu) wrote:
>this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
>N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
>1. ken dryden
>2. v.tretiak
>3. p.roy
>4. tony espo
>5. g. cheevers
>6. g. fhur
>7. a.moog
>8. billy smith
>9. e. belfour
>tie 10. bezzer and richter
snip
>I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
>hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
IMO, Icould argue with the order, the obvious absence of Bernie
Parent, and including Belfour Beezer and Richter seems like a focus on
the last few years.
Henry Kim
Sean J. Follis wrote:
>
> But he DOES specify within his post. Tretiak is easily one of the top
> ten best to play AGAINST NHL competition, although I definitely disagree
> with some of his other picks.
>
Let's see him stand up to an 80 game season. Tretiak is a myth. Yes,
he had some good international series, but then so did Sean Burke. Why
isn't he in the top 10 list. Or, for that matter, Jim Craig?
The Black Knight
> > this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
> > N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
> >
> > 1. ken dryden
> > 2. v.tretiak
> > 3. p.roy
> > 4. tony espo
> > 5. g. cheevers
> > 6. g. fhur
> > 7. a.moog
> > 8. billy smith
> > 9. e. belfour
> > tie 10. bezzer and richter
> >
> > (67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
> > success vs. the n.h.l .
> >
> > hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
I agree with the posts that have mentioned Parent. I am not sure about
Moog. Some others which may deserve some mention maybe at the fringes
of this list are Eddie Giacomin, Roggie <sp?> Vachon, and Chico Resch.
Another goalie who I thought was very good but who always played on dogmeat
teams was Gilles Meloche, (I think with some bad North Stars teams or maybe
with the Colorado Rockies).
Steve
Kevin Sterner
In article <32DB11...@netcom.ca>, Brian Sculac <bsc...@netcom.ca> writes:
> Qsidhu wrote:
> >
> > this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
> > N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
> >
> > 1. ken dryden
> > 2. v.tretiak
> > 3. p.roy
> > 4. tony espo
> > 5. g. cheevers
> > 6. g. fhur
> > 7. a.moog
> > 8. billy smith
> > 9. e. belfour
> > tie 10. bezzer and richter
> >
> > these are the top golies to play against n.h.l compentition since 1968
> > (67' doesn't count). these golies have proven a constant 110% effort and
> > success vs. the n.h.l .
> >
> > I dare you to challenge these golies and there history, for the ghosts of
> > hockey will tell the stories of these golies with fear and admiration.
>
> Hey, where's Cujo? He should definitely be in that list.
Give me a break. Bernie Parent isn't on the list. Half the people
listed above won't get into the HOF without paying full admission
and standing in line.
-- K.
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Mark D'Amico
In article <5bj4hb$k...@netnews.upenn.edu>, ste...@sel.hep.upenn.edu
(Kevin Sterner) wrote:
> In article <32DB11...@netcom.ca>, Brian Sculac <bsc...@netcom.ca> writes:
>
> > Qsidhu wrote:
> > >
> > > this is a list of the best 10 golies to play in the N.H.L (or vs. the
> > > N.H.L) since the first expansion in the N.H.L.
> > >
> > > 1. ken dryden
> > > 2. v.tretiak
> > > 3. p.roy
> > > 4. tony espo
> > > 5. g. cheevers
> > > 6. g. fhur
> > > 7. a.moog
> > > 8. billy smith
> > > 9. e. belfour
> > > tie 10. bezzer and richter
> >
> > Hey, where's Cujo? He should definitely be in that list.
Cujo doesn't belong. Parent does.
Ed Belfour doesn't belong. Rogie Vachon does.
Mike Richter, John Vanbiesbrouck and Andy Moog show a bias toward the last
5-10 years.
What about Gilles Meloche? He had a long and great career with some of the
worst teams in the 70's and 80's (California, for example).
And since we go back to just before expansion, how about Jacques Plante?
--
mwd
Mark D'Amico
>
> Let's see him stand up to an 80 game season. Tretiak is a myth. Yes,
> he had some good international series, but then so did Sean Burke. Why
> isn't he in the top 10 list. Or, for that matter, Jim Craig?
Vladislav Tretiak did stand up to 80 game seasons. Every year through the
70's and into the 80's. Just because you heard about him only during the
World Championships or the Olympics doesn't mean he was driving a cab the
rest of the year.
No, he is not a myth. He is broadly considered to be the greatest
goaltender to ever play the game. He played in international competition
and the Soviet Elite League at least twice as long as Dryden played in
the NHL. That league was looked at longingly by NHL brass as a league that
could easily stack up to the NHL in talent and play level.
--
mwd
Deepak Chhabra
In article <mwdst1+-1601...@db.bio.pitt.edu>,
Mark D'Amico <mwd...@pitt.edu> wrote:
>> Let's see him stand up to an 80 game season. Tretiak is a myth. Yes,
>> he had some good international series, but then so did Sean Burke. Why
>> isn't he in the top 10 list. Or, for that matter, Jim Craig?
>No, he is not a myth. He is broadly considered to be the greatest
>goaltender to ever play the game.
Fwiw, Dick Irvin doesn't think so. I don't have the quote on me right
now, but I could get it later if you want it. Irvin basically argued
that Tretiak was positively brilliant in the 1975 matchup between the Red
Army and the Habs, but that he was never that good at any other time...it
was that '75 game which created his legend and got him into the HOF.
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chh...@bnr.ca | I need more VERTICAL!
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