Tim Horton Donuts
Stormwind
started a line of donut shops in canada
that were quite popular. he claims that
the 'stan mikita donuts' shop that was
spoofed in wayne's world 2 was actually
poking fun at horton's donuts.
while up in vancouver recently, i looked
all over, but never found a tim horton's
donut shop. i did, however, hear plenty
of radio ads and saw a few tv ads...however,
it appears to have now become 'tim horton's
restaurant', and serves sandwiches and
soup rather than just donuts. it looked
like it'd gone mainstream, kind of like
a canadian denny's.
anyone know the history of tim horton's donuts?
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stormwind
hell's amazon
lord of the frozen realm
Aaron Ranta
says...
Ahhhhh... Timbos! My favorite spot!
But alas, since moving down to Seattle from Victoria,
they are not so easily come by!
I have hope though.. .with the recent accuasition
of Tim Hortons by Wendys, perhaps we might see
a few Tim Horton's down here in the states in
the near future.
As to not finding them in Vancouver... they're
all over. Though the only one I can think of in the
Vancouver area, off the top of my head, is actually
in Burnaby (on North road, by the Lougheed Mall.)
(It's near by brother's place. =))
As to comparing it to Denny's. Egads. Not even close.
It is still a donut place... its just that a number
of them sell sandwiches and soup now (lunch counter
style. I doubt you'll see a waitress in a TH's any
time soon).
As to the Stan Mikita's bit in the Wayne's World
movies... dunno if they were a spoof on Tim's or
not... though it seems likely. Same general style.
Though no big hockey player on top of the building.
Aaron.
Scott Jeffrey
>
>anyone know the history of tim horton's donuts?
>
>
There is a recent biography (I'm currently reading it) of Tim Horton,
called "Open Ice". The author spends a lot of time discussing Horton's
business ventures, including the startup of the donut chain. It's a good
book. I don't have it in front of me, so I can't give you any details
about publisher, etc.
Scott Jeffrey
University of Alberta
"Die-hard Leaf fan for as long as I can remember
(and that's a long, long time)"
Canadian
>a friend of mine told me that tim horton
>started a line of donut shops in canada
>that were quite popular. he claims that
>the 'stan mikita donuts' shop that was
>spoofed in wayne's world 2 was actually
>poking fun at horton's donuts.
>while up in vancouver recently, i looked
>all over, but never found a tim horton's
>donut shop. i did, however, hear plenty
>of radio ads and saw a few tv ads...however,
>it appears to have now become 'tim horton's
>restaurant', and serves sandwiches and
>soup rather than just donuts. it looked
>like it'd gone mainstream, kind of like
>a canadian denny's.
Tim Horton's was started by Tim himself. When he died, his business
partner scammed his wife and his estate out of everything and took over.
As such, I won't go there, even though the donuts are the best around. I
just can't stand someone who is an enemy of the Horton family making money
off his name (and likeness -- Tim Horton pics are up in every store).
There are quite a few TH's in Vancouver now, though strangely enough up
until about 2 years ago you could only find them in small towns like
Kelowna, Kamloops, etc.
The main stuff they sell now is still coffee and donuts.
Nancy MacKinnon
: a friend of mine told me that tim horton
: started a line of donut shops in canada
: that were quite popular. he claims that
: the 'stan mikita donuts' shop that was
: spoofed in wayne's world 2 was actually
: poking fun at horton's donuts.
: while up in vancouver recently, i looked
: all over, but never found a tim horton's
: donut shop. i did, however, hear plenty
: of radio ads and saw a few tv ads...however,
: it appears to have now become 'tim horton's
: restaurant', and serves sandwiches and
: soup rather than just donuts. it looked
: like it'd gone mainstream, kind of like
: a canadian denny's.
: anyone know the history of tim horton's donuts?
: --
: stormwind
: hell's amazon
: lord of the frozen realm
I've only seen one Tim Horton's thus far in the US - in Buffalo, NY at
the factory outlet mall. However, I think this was established to meet
the needs of all the Canadian visitors that were coming over to shop.
I think I must come from the Tim Horton's capital of the world - 26 Tim
Horton's for 125 000 people. Every time I go home to see my parents I
realize that they've built another one - it's getting a little out of
control. About all I know regarding it's history is that when they first
opened their primary colour scheme revolved around the colour blue (for
the Leafs). All I can say is that Canadian's love their Tim Horton's;
though, I don't imagine it's their coffee that's bringing them back since
I think it sucks. However, they do have the best donuts around.
Nancy
Jeff Joseph
>a friend of mine told me that tim horton
>started a line of donut shops in canada
>that were quite popular. he claims that
>the 'stan mikita donuts' shop that was
>spoofed in wayne's world 2 was actually
>poking fun at horton's donuts.
Tim Horton's was started in Hamilton by a fellow named Ron Joyce. Horton
was a partner and received a royalty until his death when the royalty
reverted to the estate. Years later, Joyce purchased that stake from the
estate (two years ago Horton's wife try to sue and reclaim the stake
claiming she was mentally incapacitated when she sold the stake but
lost.) The chain has been a huge success in Ontario the last few years
and has expanded nationally and in some US border states.
Joyce is a limited partner in the Vancouver Grizzlies franchise in the
NBA. Last year, he sold the company to Wendy's which intends to expand
even further with Wendy/Horton combo outlets. Horton carries donuts and
now sandwiches, soups and other stuff.
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Mroz
>I don't have it in front of me,
A remarkable ability, it must be, to read something when it isn't in
front of you! :)
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Jeff Joseph
(Nancy MacKinnon) wrote:
>I've only seen one Tim Horton's thus far in the US - in Buffalo, NY at
>the factory outlet mall.
There is another that I know of on near Boulevard Mall (actually that
was the first TH to open in Buffalo.)
>However, I think this was established to meet the needs of all the Canadian visitors >that were coming over to shop. I think I must come from the Tim Horton's capital of >the world - 26 Tim Horton's for 125 000 people.
I actually read this in a trade publication - North America's biggest
city in terms of donut shops per capita: St. Catherines, Ontario.
>About all I know regarding it's history is that when they first
>opened their primary colour scheme revolved around the colour blue (for
>the Leafs).
I thought it started when he was a Sabre? Can't remember.
>All I can say is that Canadian's love their Tim Horton's;
>though, I don't imagine it's their coffee that's bringing them back since
>I think it sucks. However, they do have the best donuts around.
Actually, it *is* the coffee that brings them back if you go by the
surveys. Then again, I have never figured out coffee drinkers except for
a very small group.
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Gossamer
>was a partner and received a royalty until his death when the royalty
>reverted to the estate. Years later, Joyce purchased that stake from the
>estate (two years ago Horton's wife try to sue and reclaim the stake
>claiming she was mentally incapacitated when she sold the stake but
>lost.) The chain has been a huge success in Ontario the last few years
>and has expanded nationally and in some US border states.
Seems odd to me that someone hasn't heard of Tim Horton's - but I'm
an American that spends alot of time in Canada for AHL & NHL games.
FYI - One of the US Tim Horton's is in Massena, New York in
St. Lawrence Center mall.
- Goss
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James Burrows
>>Tim Horton's was started in Hamilton by a fellow named Ron Joyce. Horton
>>was a partner and received a royalty until his death when the royalty
>>reverted to the estate. Years later, Joyce purchased that stake from the
>>estate (two years ago Horton's wife try to sue and reclaim the stake
>>claiming she was mentally incapacitated when she sold the stake but
>>lost.) The chain has been a huge success in Ontario the last few years
>>and has expanded nationally and in some US border states.
>
> Seems odd to me that someone hasn't heard of Tim Horton's - but I'm
> an American that spends alot of time in Canada for AHL & NHL games.
>
> FYI - One of the US Tim Horton's is in Massena, New York in
> St. Lawrence Center mall.
>
Earlier this year, Tim Horton's Donuts and Wendy's Hamburgers merged. Ron
Joyce is now the largest shareholder of Wendy's, owning aprox. 14 %
compared to Dave Thomas who owns around 8%.
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Jim Keegan
>Joyce is a limited partner in the Vancouver Grizzlies franchise in the
>NBA. Last year, he sold the company to Wendy's which intends to expand
>even further with Wendy/Horton combo outlets. Horton carries donuts and
>now sandwiches, soups and other stuff.
For the sake of accuracy [and I know Jeff is a huge basketball fan], Ron
Joyce is NOT a limited partner in the Grizzlies. It had been rumoured in
the early days of the franchise that he, along with a number of other
parties, was going to take a minority position but he backed out, as did
most of the other potential minority investors. This led to the need for
the Griffiths to sell a majority interest in the Canucks, Grizzlies and
GM PLace to John McCaw of Seattle.
Jim
>
Brenda G. Knights
essential pit stop for any traveller .... The book Open Ice by ... somebody
Hunter details this quite well. It is a biography of Tim Horton. I got it
for my dad this Christmas and a quick flip through looks good.
Brenda
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Scott Jeffrey
>
>Tim Horton's was started by Tim himself. When he died, his business
>partner scammed his wife and his estate out of everything and took over.
>As such, I won't go there, even though the donuts are the best around. I
>just can't stand someone who is an enemy of the Horton family making money
>off his name (and likeness -- Tim Horton pics are up in every store).
Horton's biography ("Open Ice") tells a very different picture than this,
concerning the donut shops. The business was started as much by others as
by Horton himself.
And I believe that the pictures of Horton are no longer up in the stores
(part of the fallout from the legal battles after his death).
Jeff Joseph
(Jim Keegan) wrote:
>jjo...@interlog.com (Jeff Joseph) wrote:
Thanks for this info. Actually, at the time the Tim Horton's message
came up, I had just finished reading Brendan Connor's "Slam Dunk: The
Raptors and the NBA in Canada" and he mentioned this (Joyce's ownership)
in one of the last chapters (and *still* said the McCaws are part of the
ownership group that includes Joyce.) I found the book, in general, to
be sloppily researched. You just added more to its mistakes.
Valerie Hammerl
Aaron Ranta <aa...@iphc.washington.edu> wrote:
>In article <4bcjdd$c...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ama...@kisio.engr.sgi.com
>>a friend of mine told me that tim horton
>>started a line of donut shops in canada
>>while up in vancouver recently, i looked
>>all over, but never found a tim horton's
>>donut shop. i did, however, hear plenty
>>of radio ads and saw a few tv ads...however,
>>it appears to have now become 'tim horton's
>>restaurant', and serves sandwiches and
>>soup rather than just donuts. it looked
>>like it'd gone mainstream, kind of like
>>a canadian denny's.
>>anyone know the history of tim horton's donuts?
>Ahhhhh... Timbos! My favorite spot!
>But alas, since moving down to Seattle from Victoria,
>they are not so easily come by!
>I have hope though.. .with the recent accuasition
>of Tim Hortons by Wendys, perhaps we might see
>a few Tim Horton's down here in the states in
>the near future.
They've been in the states for ages and ages. Years, over a decade.
In Buffalo. I know there's one on Niagara Falls Boulevard in Amherst
that's been there a long time. They're all over now, even my local
Mobil gas station has a Tim Horton's inside behind the mini mart, and
there's a couple that were put into old banks that now have drive through
donuts (Evans Road, if you're ever in Buffalo) and a brand shiny new one
in the Walker Center on Main Street Williamsville. Heck, there must be
nearly a dozen, all over the place. And unlike one in Toronto near
Eaton Centre, they have white cream donuts (called angel creme at Tim's).
And all these were BEFORE the acquisition by Wendy's. They still
primarily serve donuts. Hardly the second coming of Denny's.
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Valerie Hammerl
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