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cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet

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Mar 19, 1994, 12:43:16 AM3/19/94
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denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
New York Rangers. I chuckled when I first heard but denis
Potvin was on WFAN (sports radio in NY) and substainiated the rumor
that kennan contacted him. According to Potvin, he can get ready in three
weeks and guys like trottier are still playing. he also noted he scored
20 goals in his final season (1988) and can do it. To me, it seems
like Guy Lafluer all over again. It would be quite ironic if
this came to fruition. -chad

Daniel Lyddy

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Mar 19, 1994, 4:50:13 AM3/19/94
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cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet wrote:
: denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted

No way!!! What on earth are the people in the "blue seats" gonna chant if
this actually happens??


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David Strauss

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Mar 19, 1994, 12:24:55 PM3/19/94
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In article <1994Mar19.0...@sarah.albany.edu>,

This was a silly story that, as usual, the NY Post and NY Daily
News blew all out of proportion.

The guy's been retired for six years. Considering that
postseason rosters have to be frozen Monday, I don't think it's
got a chance in hell of happening.

It *is* a funny thought though...talk about making the
teal-seaters cringe, huh?


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Alain DAGHER

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Mar 19, 1994, 12:46:13 PM3/19/94
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cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet wrote:
: denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
: by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
: New York Rangers.

If Potvin does comeback, he would be an active player who is also in
the hall of fame. Has this happened before? Can anybody name names?

Best wishes,

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Neil Hornsey

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Mar 19, 1994, 1:08:23 PM3/19/94
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cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet wrote:
: denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted

Wake up people!
Denis Potvin is NOT coming back!
Mike Keenan mentioned something to the effect that Potvin should think
about coming back. The media got hold of this and completely blew it out
of proportion. The playoff rosters have to be set by the trade deadline,
which is Monday. A guy who has not played in (6 years is it?) is not
going to get in playing form over a weekend.

GO BLUES! GO PENS!

Neil Hornsey

Robert J. Moore

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Mar 19, 1994, 1:14:11 PM3/19/94
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In <1994Mar19.0...@sarah.albany.edu> cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet writes:

Yeah, I just saw an interview with Potvin on TSN this morning. He said
that Keenan had spoken to him and that it was the only thing he had been
thinking about for the last few days. He also said that the ball was now
in the Rangers' court, which I assume means that if the Rangers will cough
up enough money he will play.

RJM

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Nelson Lu

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Mar 19, 1994, 9:28:23 PM3/19/94
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In article <1994Mar19....@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
Alain DAGHER <alain@lear> wrote:

>If Potvin does comeback, he would be an active player who is also in
>the hall of fame. Has this happened before? Can anybody name names?

Guy Lafleur...

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Nelson Lu

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Mar 19, 1994, 9:33:38 PM3/19/94
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In article <1994Mar19....@umr.edu>,
Neil Hornsey <nhor...@saucer.cc.umr.edu> wrote:

>of proportion. The playoff rosters have to be set by the trade deadline,
>which is Monday. A guy who has not played in (6 years is it?) is not
>going to get in playing form over a weekend.

Not that I think that bringing Potvin back is a good idea, but this is
somewhat misleading. After the trading deadline, you can't acquire more
players, but the "playoff roster" (if there is such a thing at all) is not
set, in the sense that you have to submit a roster to the league to decide who
plays.

With the kind of rosters NHL teams have, you can essentially have up to 40 (if
my memory about "signed players" limitations are correct) players on your
roster at any time; you can dress 20 of them (18 skaters and 2 goalies) for
each game. In the playoffs, you would generally see teams calling up their
top minor league players even if they are not going to play at all, so you
would typically see 10+ scratches a game.

If the Rangers sign Potvin, then, they can let him play the rest of the regular
season to get into shape. If they don't like what they see, they can simply
not play him in the playoffs.

Keith Keller

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Mar 19, 1994, 1:10:57 PM3/19/94
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In article <2mehsl$4...@agate.berkeley.edu> dan...@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:

>No way!!! What on earth are the people in the "blue seats" gonna chant if
>this actually happens??

Nothing. Cause they probably wouldn't be there. :)
Seriously, I will boycott all Rangers games if they sign Penis Potvin. He
may have been one of the top two defensemen in the league through the whole
1980s, but he was, and will always be, the MOST HATED ISLANDER on the
face of the earth. Don't ask for an explanation, just accept it. And
I hope that other Rangers fans have the honor to boycott anything having
to do with the Rangers if they sign him. I think I will become an
Ottawa fan if that happens.

At first I didn't think the rumor was true, having come from the NY
Post, an unreliable source. But when Chad posted about the FAN and the
phone conversation with the Penis, well, I am in shock. I may just
boycott the games anyway, even if they don't sign him.

Now, I know what silly Islander fans are going to say: Hey, he is a
great player, and you need him. Well, first of all, I bet he's about
30 pounds overweight and badly out of shape, regardless of what he
says. And even if he isn't, it is just an insult to our dignity as
Rangers fans to have to have our most hated enemy play for us. And
think of the ignominy if the Rangers were to pick him up and then
go on to win the Cup: everyone will say that we couldn't do it
without an Islander. I don't want my Cup won that way, thank you
very much. I'll take any other player (except Loser Lindros), but
I will not take any Islanders who were part of that "history" in
the Mausoleum.


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Gary L Dare

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Mar 19, 1994, 1:09:48 PM3/19/94
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<cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet> wrote:
>denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
>by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
>New York Rangers. I chuckled when I first heard but denis Potvin
>was on WFAN (sports radio in NY) and substainiated the rumor

I have a couple of takes on this ...

1. This could be for real because the Jets grabbed Dave Manson from
the Oilers at an outlet price, and probably won't let him go because
they have traditionally had a hard skating, hard hitting blueliner
as their leading veteran (e.g., Lars-Erik Sjoberg, Serge Savard,
Randy Carlyle). Winnipeg is further along the maturity cycle (for
the umpteenth time!) and needs that element, the Oilers do not now.
There does not seem to be another hard skating, hard hitting D-man
on the market at the moment ...

2. This could all be a joke on Denis Potvin's part; interesting
that he was on WFAN whose nickname, for the little time that is
not spent on football or baseball or basketball (NBA or NCAA),
is ... "WNYR". I could imagine Potvin giggling for days on end
over salt-of-the-earth Noo Yawk true-blues in sheer rage over
the mere thought of Denis in the Ranger uniform.

gld
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Keith Keller

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Mar 19, 1994, 1:23:24 PM3/19/94
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Yes, in fact. Guy Lafleur was elected to the Hall, then a few years
later came out of retirement to play ... with the same Rangers who
are trying to sign Penis Potvin. Not sure if it has happened previous,
but I vaguely recall that on Rangers telecasts that they said that
Lafleur was the only player to be active in the NHL after induction
in the HOF.

Sandeep Chopra

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Mar 19, 1994, 2:26:30 PM3/19/94
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In a previous article, kke...@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) says:

>In article <2mehsl$4...@agate.berkeley.edu> dan...@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
>

>>No way!!! What on earth are the people in the "blue seats" gonna chant if
>>this actually happens??
>


Before you consider becoming an Ottawa fan consider that Denis Potvin
played Junior hockey here fopr the '67s and that he is a local boy.
Keenan is only trying to bolster what he considers to be a wimpy line up.
Don't forget Keenan has never been able to win the big one despite having
made the finals several times.The thought of his record combined with the
Rangers' Cup drought should make fans in New York wake up in a cold sweat
every night until the inevitable happens....A FIRST ROUND KNOCKOUT.

Sandeep

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Greg Weston

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Mar 20, 1994, 7:50:03 PM3/20/94
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As far as I know it has happened twice. Gordie Howe and Guy Lafleur have
done it.

Greg

caldwe...@mtroyal.ab.ca

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Mar 21, 1994, 4:58:27 AM3/21/94
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cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
> denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
> by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
> New York Rangers. I chuckled when I first heard but denis
> Potvin was on WFAN (sports radio in NY) and substainiated the rumor
> that kennan contacted him. According to Potvin, he can get ready in three
> weeks and guys like trottier are still playing. he also noted he scored
> 20 goals in his final season (1988) and can do it. To me, it seems

Unfortunately for Potvin, that 20 goals seems to be his only memory of 1987-88.

Myself and I'm sure many other fans all remember the OTHER Denis Potvin of
1987-88, the one that got screwed into the ice night after night by forwards
blowing past him. It was not a fitting end to a great career.

Please, Denis, don't do this. There is no need to tarnish what amounts to
one of the greatest defense careers ever by pulling a silly stunt like this.

Alan Caldwell
caldwe...@mtroyal.ab.ca
Rec.sport.hockey contact for the Calgary Flames
Al MacInnis 6, Toronto Maple Leafs 3. MacInnis for the Norris Trophy!

caldwe...@mtroyal.ab.ca

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Mar 21, 1994, 5:15:28 AM3/21/94
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I believe Guy Lafleur was the only other Hall-of-Famer to return to play in
the NHL. And he had some moderate success, too (who can ever forget him
scoring for the Rangers in his return to the Forum?).

Potvin, on the other hand, had lost it by the time he retired. I see no
reason to believe he has improved in the last six years. It will be ugly,
and God I hope he doesn't do it.

caldwe...@mtroyal.ab.ca

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Mar 21, 1994, 5:28:53 AM3/21/94
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nhor...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Neil Hornsey) writes:
> of proportion. The playoff rosters have to be set by the trade deadline,
> which is Monday. A guy who has not played in (6 years is it?) is not

No. This is hockey, not baseball, and there is no moronic rule saying you must
set your playoff rosters a month in advance of the fact. Teams are free to
promote players down the stretch and even during the playoffs themselves. I
can quote you many instances of this happening last year if you doubt this.

The only significance of the trading deadline is just that, no more _trades_.

Neil Hornsey

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Mar 21, 1994, 1:35:32 PM3/21/94
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caldwe...@mtroyal.ab.ca wrote:

: nhor...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Neil Hornsey) writes:
: > of proportion. The playoff rosters have to be set by the trade deadline,
: > which is Monday. A guy who has not played in (6 years is it?) is not

: No. This is hockey, not baseball, and there is no moronic rule saying you must
: set your playoff rosters a month in advance of the fact. Teams are free to
: promote players down the stretch and even during the playoffs themselves. I
: can quote you many instances of this happening last year if you doubt this.

: The only significance of the trading deadline is just that, no more _trades_.

Sure, you can promote players from your minor league team. These players
are on the roster. I do not know the exact number of players that a team
can put on their playoff roster, but it is a lot more than the amount of
players that dress for a game. Not only can no more trades be made, but
no more players can be picked up in any other way. A team can't just
decide to bring a player out of retirement in the middle of the playoffs.
If his name isn't on the list that is submitted, he can't play. If it
wasn't like this, I'm sure teams would find ways to improve their rosters
by ways that the league would not look kindly on.

RANGERS #1

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Mar 21, 1994, 2:43:59 PM3/21/94
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In article <2mehsl$4...@agate.berkeley.edu>, dan...@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
> cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet wrote:
> : denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
> : by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
> : New York Rangers. I chuckled when I first heard but denis
> : Potvin was on WFAN (sports radio in NY) and substainiated the rumor
> : that kennan contacted him. According to Potvin, he can get ready in three
> : weeks and guys like trottier are still playing. he also noted he scored
> : 20 goals in his final season (1988) and can do it. To me, it seems
> : like Guy Lafluer all over again. It would be quite ironic if
> : this came to fruition. -chad
>
> No way!!! What on earth are the people in the "blue seats" gonna chant if
> this actually happens??


People won't be in the blue seats. They will have all committed a mass
suicide at the signing of the most hated player(for Ranger fans) of all time.
Even though, I must admit, the thought of signing him does make me a *little*
bit curious. Could you imagine a first round series between the Rangers and
I-Holes, with Potvin as a Ranger???? It scares me, but also, strangely
interests me. Because when it comes down to it, I would do anything to get the
Cup for the Rangers. So while they are at it, why don't they negotiate with
Bossy as well???? Now there is a definate playoff performer. Just as long as
they don't sign Smith, even I wouldn't go *that* far.

David M. Carcagente "Hey, I thought I would be the
aka The Phantom starting centerfielder for the
aka The Piano Man Boston Red Sox... life sucks,
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Gary L Dare

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Mar 21, 1994, 6:41:27 PM3/21/94
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RANGERS #1 <dcarc...@vaxa.hofstra.edu> wrote:

>Could you imagine a first round series between the Rangers and

>I-Holes, with Potvin as a Ranger???? It scares me, ...

Game 7 of Round 1 at Madison Square Garden in OT ... live on
ESPN ...

GARY THORNE:

... and now Rangers' defenceman Denis Potvin from behind the net ...
clears a puck ... AND IT GOES INTO HIS OWN NET, behind Glen Healey!!!
Unbelievable!!!

BILL CLEMENT:

We saw it 10 years ago with the Oilers and the victim that time was
a rookie defender named Steve Smith ... I don't know what to say now,
Gary, but it looks like Potvin spent so much time getting his legs
back that he forgot about the hands ...

(-; (-; (-;

CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH REILLY

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Mar 21, 1994, 10:15:31 PM3/21/94
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In article <1994Mar19....@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, alain@lear (Alain DAGHER)

writes:
>cj7...@albnyvms.bitnet wrote:
>: denis Potvin, a star defensma for the NYI, today was contacted
>: by Mike Kennan for a possible comeback with believe it or not, the
>: New York Rangers.
>
>If Potvin does comeback, he would be an active player who is also in
>the hall of fame. Has this happened before? Can anybody name names?
>
--Wasn't Guy "The Flower" LaFleur in the Hall when he came with the Nords
or Rangers? All I have to say is that the Rangers seem to the place to go
if you're on over-the-hill superstar. This is the team where players go
to die.

Just remember 1940!



quadro...@delphi.com

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Mar 21, 1994, 9:09:29 PM3/21/94
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Alain DAGHER <alain@lear> writes:

>If Potvin does comeback, he would be an active player who is also in
>the hall of fame. Has this happened before? Can anybody name names?

Guy Lafleur, Rangers AND Nordiques.
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