Jamir Jagr, shadow of Mario

[James A. Jaworski]

David Chen wrote:
>Now that Mario's retired, Jagr is doing nothing. Goes to show how a great
>player can have such an effect on another above avg. player. Jagr is a
>good player, but not the next Mario as Penguins fans predicted.

What do the fans know? 90% of Penguin fans are drunks or sluts anyway,
just ask WDVE. :)

A) There will never be a "Next Mario" just like there will never be a
"Next" Gretzky, Roy, Orr, etc. Jagr is Jagr, end of story.

B) Jaromir is struggling under the new system CampCon has started. Jagr
is no longer allowed, he was told directly, to skate freely. He has to
stick to the system and score when he can, not stick to scoring and
blend with the system when he can.

Give him some time. Ten games proves nothing. Plus, with the loss of
Mario and the absence of "Mr Greedy" Petr Nedved, Jagr is the only true
offensive threat so he is always against the other teams best D. Once
Nedved grows up and signs Jagr's numbers will improve, even though they
wont be on the same line.

Jim

[David Chen]

[Jens-Peter Olsson]

I don't think Jagr is a franchise player in any sense. He's more of a
solo-artist and should probably be allowed to have that role on the
team to be of most use.

He could definitely be the decisive factor for winning a cup (but not
with the Penguins...), but the backbone, no.

J-P

On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:31:29 -0400, David Chen <dc...@osf1.gmu.edu>
wrote:

>
>Now that Mario's retired, Jagr is doing nothing. Goes to show how a great
>player can have such an effect on another above avg. player. Jagr is a
>good player, but not the next Mario as Penguins fans predicted.
>
>

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[Peter Ståhl]

Jens-Peter Olsson wrote:

Have anyone notised tha if you move around the letters in "JAROMIR" you ger
"MARIO JR"... is it a sign?

[M. Zaiem Beg]

Adam Levar <afl...@netrover.com> wrote:

: Will you say the same thing at the end of his career when he has more
: points then Lemieux?

How do you know this will happen? You say it with such certainty. Anything
can happen, you know.

--
-M. Zaiem Beg
zb...@holly.colostate.edu

[Richard Farley]

In article <63g1ck$c71$1...@malgudi.oar.net>, cabl...@clearlight.com (Bill
Cable) wrote:

> It's called optimism. Positive thinking. The opposite of bitching &
> moaning (a skill you've obviously mastered).

Most of the the "bitching & moaning" and "Positive thinking" have equally
precarious foundations in reality.

[M. Zaiem Beg]

Bill Cable <cabl...@clearlight.com> wrote:

: It's called optimism. Positive thinking. The opposite of bitching &
: moaning (a skill you've obviously mastered).

Ahh...optimism.
Okay, then...optimistic I shall be.

Peter Forsberg will score 400 points this season.
Joe Sakic will score 300.
Both will triple Wayne Gretsky's career point totals in the next two
seasons.
The Colorado Avalanche will win every Stanley Cup until 2082.
The Colorado Avalanche will also go undefeated in a season, posting a
perfect record and sweep the playoffs to the Cup.
Patrick Roy will post a 0.00 GAA and a 1.00 save percentage for the rest
of his career.
I will be the starting centre for the Colorado Avalanche next week and
score a hat trick in every one of my games.

Hey, it's optimistic, right?

Guess what: Optimism does not mean realism.
People who are optimistic don't see the league for what it is and are
viewed as someone whose views are so skewed their opinions are worthless
(like Josh in dealing with the RedWings).
People who are realistic see the league for what it is, not "bitching and
moaning".

So until Colorado does win 84 consecutive titles, I'm going to say that
Jagr has yet to be seen if he can perform without Mario.

[Adam Levar]

cabl...@clearlight.com (Bill Cable) wrote:

>M. Zaiem Beg (zb...@holly.ColoState.EDU) wrote:
>> Adam Levar <afl...@netrover.com> wrote:
>> : Will you say the same thing at the end of his career when he has more
>> : points then Lemieux?
>> How do you know this will happen? You say it with such certainty. Anything
>> can happen, you know.

>> -M. Zaiem Beg

I obviously can't say for sure it will happen. But, you must agree
that Jagr is one of the best players in the world, if not the best.
If you were to project his point totals over 10 years I am sure he
will pass Mario.

I don't think you can question the fact that he is more durable than
Mario.

I don't want to agrue this point, I think Jagr is a great player to
watch and that is enough for me to make such a bold statement.

Regards,
Adam.