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Robert West

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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Just out of interest what is the conversion rate for penalty corners?

I am not looking for exact figures but a rough idea.

Thanks
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Chris Worgan

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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ro...@baesema1.demon.co.uk "Robert West" writes:

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Hmmmm....

Do you mean overall or just say for internationals?

Either way it HAS to be less than people think!

Mostly one would say a Short Corner should be a goal everytime (in the bar!)

But then you may decide that 50% is an average conversion rate, however
I am going to hang my hat on 1 in 4 as a "realistic" rate from my experiance.


Reg's Chris


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Nathan Edwards

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Aug 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/24/95
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>>>>> "Menno" == Menno Bokkers <Menno....@inter.NL.net> writes:
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert West <ro...@baesema1.demon.co.uk> writes:

Robert> Just out of interest what is the conversion rate for penalty
Robert> corners?

Menno> I can give you some exact figures on the pc in the ladies' WC
Menno> in Dublin '94:

Menno> Top six:
Menno> 1. Australia 5/51 (9.8%)
Menno> 2. Argentina 4/34 (11.8%)
Menno> 3. USA 5/26 (19.2%)
Menno> 4. Germany 2/55 (3.6%)
Menno> 5. Korea 3/34 (8.8%)
Menno> 6. Netherlands 1/34 (2.9%)

Menno> Any comments on these figures?

I've noticed that the Americans seem to be good at set plays. The
varsity field hockey team here spends a vast amount of time practicing
PCs, and other popular American sports, especially American football,
are just one set play after another. These figures seem to back my
theory up - the USA PC percentage is _much_ higher than the other
teams in the list, despite the other big names. Hmmm, makes me wonder
whether the US mens team will do surprisingly well come Atlanta if
they can convert 25% or more of their PCs.

nathan

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Robert Hancock

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Aug 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/24/95
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>Hmmmm....
>
>Do you mean overall or just say for internationals?
>
>Either way it HAS to be less than people think!
>
>Mostly one would say a Short Corner should be a goal everytime (in the bar!)
>
>But then you may decide that 50% is an average conversion rate, however
>I am going to hang my hat on 1 in 4 as a "realistic" rate from my experiance.
>
>
>Reg's Chris
>
>


Dear Reg's Chris

Would the 1 in 4 you estimate be on a grass field turf field or a
combination of both in your experience?

Bob Hancock
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CalCupXXV

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Aug 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/24/95
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I would bet it will be less than 25% at even the highest level of
competion. I would also bet that there is not even a shot at the goal in
over 50% of the short corners.

Tom Harris

Christopher Janusewski

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Aug 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/25/95
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In rec.sport.hockey.field Chris Worgan <ch...@comsense.demon.co.uk> said:


>In article <809183...@baesema1.demon.co.uk>
> ro...@baesema1.demon.co.uk "Robert West" writes:
>
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>> mail2news.demon.co.uk!baesema1.demon.co.uk!robw
>> From: Robert West <ro...@baesema1.demon.co.uk>
>> Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
>> Subject: Penalty Corner conversion rate
>> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:15:21 GMT
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>> Just out of interest what is the conversion rate for penalty corners?
>>
>> I am not looking for exact figures but a rough idea.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Robert West Telephone (44) 1705 321067
>> BAeSEMA Fax (44) 1705 324643
>> The usual disclaimer applies
>>
>
>Hmmmm....
>
>Do you mean overall or just say for internationals?
>
>Either way it HAS to be less than people think!
>
>Mostly one would say a Short Corner should be a goal everytime (in the
bar!)
>
>But then you may decide that 50% is an average conversion rate, however I
am
>going to hang my hat on 1 in 4 as a "realistic" rate from my experiance.
>
>
>Reg's Chris
>
>
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>Chris Worgan Common Sense Computing (UK) Ltd ch...@comsense.com Canada
House,
>272 Field End Rd, Eastcote, Middx HA4 9NA Phone: 0181 866 4400 Fax: 0181
429
>2848 Direct Line 0181 429 2216
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In club play I would put it at 1 in 6.

But at international level I would say more in the area of 50%. Especially
with the advent of this dam drag flick (I am a Keeper obviously).

Christopher Januszewski
"All I want to know is; why are we here and for how long??"

Haroon Rafique

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Aug 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/27/95
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In an article Nathan Edwards <nedw...@orie.cornell.edu> wrote:
|>
|> [... stuff deleted ...]

|>
|>I've noticed that the Americans seem to be good at set plays. The
|>varsity field hockey team here spends a vast amount of time practicing
|>PCs, and other popular American sports, especially American football,
|>are just one set play after another. These figures seem to back my
|>theory up - the USA PC percentage is _much_ higher than the other
|>teams in the list, despite the other big names. Hmmm, makes me wonder
|>whether the US mens team will do surprisingly well come Atlanta if
|>they can convert 25% or more of their PCs.
|>
|>nathan
|>

Surprising, as it may be (if I am not wrong), is the fact that 2 of
the 3 goals scored by the US in the Atlanta Challenge Cup were scored by
number 12 Steve Danielson on a set play from a short corner with a high
flick.

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Christopher Janusewski

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Aug 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/28/95
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Surprise Surprise!!!

If you have ever come up against this play and Steven Danialson you would
understand why!

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