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annika1980

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:39:43 PM11/26/09
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BigSlicer

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:04:12 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 26 2009 11:39 PM, annika1980 wrote:

> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/464187569_bf147142c7_o.jpg


Very bad taste, he was still the President of the US and no one deserves a
likeness like this on the internet for all to potentially see. Very, very
bad taste.

It seems to me a line of decency has been crossed here. It is not
humerous , it is vulgar and everything but funny. Regardless of your
political views, it is downright disrespectful. I would be pissed if that
was my spouse, anyone would be pissed if a picture of their spouse was
presented as this. There are boundaries, one may have been crossed here.
Sometimes we need to think before we put trash out there for all to see.
Very bad taste here, bad decision.

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bkn...@conramp.net

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:10:39 PM11/27/09
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Hate it, but have to agree. Swing and a miss Annika.

BK

BigSlicer

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:25:50 PM11/27/09
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It is more than a "Swing and a miss". it is vulgar and disrepsectful. And
what if a minor came across this?

Wonder if any laws have been broken here by placing such filth on what is
supposed to be a golf discussion group, open to all ages. And I wonder
about the legality about showing a depiction as this of the former First
Lady, you would think free speech has boundaries, has a boundary been
exceeded here? Will research this and recommend others who are offended
do the same.

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BigSlicer

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:59:47 PM11/27/09
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If there is a way to remove this offensive post, please do so!

It is highly insulting to our former First Lady and it is equally
insulting as how would anyone feel if this depiction was made of their
spouse? It just doesn't belong here, so please take it out if there is a
way. In respect to the former President and his spouse, and in the name
of decency. And now that this is out here , who is to say someone else
won't recirculate it. It could be all over the place before you know it.
There are enough people out there sadly that think stupidity like this is
clever and funny.

Thank you. My last word on the subject. This might be some attempt to be
funny, it failed really bad. Like it or not, this man was our President
for 8 years. And his wife was a very dignified First Lady. You can
disagree with their policies, they don't deserve the likes of this. No
one does. There is something called respect.

Happy holidays to all!

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Clifford T. Newsome

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:20:54 PM11/27/09
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Why don't you lecture about decency to the assholes who changed and/or wiped
out the lives of hundreds of thousands of people on both sides of a
completely unnecessary war?

The Bush crime family, including the enabling wife, deserve whatever they
get. Whatever they get, they get off way too easy.

Kommienezuspadt

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:44:51 PM11/27/09
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Bobster

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:47:18 PM11/27/09
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"Clifford T. Newsome" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Hey Cliffy, it looks like President Teleprompter is about ready to escalate
his war in Afghanistan and send over an additional 30, 000 troups . I
expect you to be judge Obama in the future just the same way as you do Bush.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:03:46 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:47:18 -0800, "Bobster" <nos...@nospam.com>
wrote this crap:

>>
>> The Bush crime family, including the enabling wife, deserve whatever they
>> get. Whatever they get, they get off way too easy.
>
>Hey Cliffy, it looks like President Teleprompter is about ready to escalate
>his war in Afghanistan and send over an additional 30, 000 troups . I
>expect you to be judge Obama in the future just the same way as you do Bush.

He's just upset because President George W. Bush didn't visit all 57
states.


Vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012.


Hor...@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

Bobster

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Nov 28, 2009, 10:24:35 AM11/28/09
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"BigSlicer" <a5a...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Bush haters like Bret just can't give it up, particularly since their guy
Berry is such a disaster.

Howard Brazee

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:05:39 PM11/28/09
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How about those who replaced the Bushes promising change, but who seem
to have the same bosses paying for their same agendae?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

BigSlicer

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:10:51 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28 2009 10:24 AM, Bobster wrote:

> Bush haters like Bret just can't give it up, particularly since their guy
> Berry is such a disaster.


One has every right to hate Bush or at the very least disagree with his
policies, but it just plain wrong to post the picture as was done here,
does not matter what the reason was. It is disrespectful and what did
the former First Lady do to deserve this? In fact, what would anyone do
to deserve this? This is a man's wife, a mother, and a respected public
figure. We are talking about the former President of the United States
here, this is simply awful and even more awful if this picture gets passed
on further. How would anyone here feel if a picture like this was
circulated of their wives or daughters or mothers? Would you or they find
humor in this, I bet they would not. Most normal people would be pissed,
damn pissed, and would pursue legal action. Free speech has limits,
this simply does not feel right.

You can attack Bush's or any President's politics, yet still show the
office the respect it deserves. The picture that was posted is pure
filth, it is totally disrespectful. If this is legal, than what is to
keep pictures like this from being posted all the time, especially without
the consent of those who are being depicted? And is it right that a
child or even an adult could just come across this, without any warning of
potential offensive material, and see this utterly ridiculous and clearly
doctored picture of the former First Lady?

Sadly, the only thing that stops people who post filth like this are
consequences. Doing a quick search, there have been lawsuits filed for
internet posting of nude pictures and caricatures of famous people,
especially when it was done without the express consent of the parties
being depicted. With regards to this picture, what would happen if a
complaint was filed with the FBI or US Attorney's office, or if they just
happen to come across it? There are government authorities that do
nothing but surf the net and seek out crap just like this! Big Brother
is indeed watching, he may or may not catch this one, posting something
like this is a helluva gamble. Better to sleep a good nights sleep, than
put crap like this out there and then have to worry about the potential
for consequences, who needs it, don't we all have enough already to worry
about? This particular depiction is all the more heinous, given that this
is the former President of the United States and the former First Lady.
It presents our leadership in a way that is extrememly distasteful and
anyone that is a patriot and respects the United States, and respects
those that have died for the United States, should be damn offended that
this posting was made. Regardless of the legality, it is not funny or
humerous, not one bit. Does the poster think that we all hunger for
laughs so bad that we need crap like this for entertainment? Does the
poster think that those who hate or dislike Bush and his policies will
find some joy or revenge with this? Regardless of whether or not we
support someone's views or policies, most of us know there is a right and
wrong way to express our opinion. Posting pictures like this , whther
it be of a celebrity , political figure, or even a regular citizen, can
cause lives to be ruined, and create great embarassment. This is a golf
newsgroup. What the hell does this stupid, doctored picture have to do
with golf? Maybe next time someone will think long and hard before they
do something like this. Maybe we all need to go back to just discussing
golf, there was once a time that the group poliiced itself well with
nonsense like this.

Hope that the poster sees this as a learning experience and thinks twice
before posting such crap in the future.

Enough said.

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bkn...@conramp.net

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:10:16 PM11/28/09
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:10:51 -0800, "BigSlicer"
<a5a...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>Enough said.
>

That's for sure.

BK

BigSlicer

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:40:30 PM11/28/09
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I have been on the Internet from day 1. Probably have seen it all. This
post takes the cake.
I have thick skin, this depiction makes my blood curdle. There are limits
to everything, to use golf lingo, this is really OVER THE TOP!

I can't imagine how I would feel if my spouse or other loved one was
presented like this. It would be embarassing, heartbreaking, and I would
be looking for blood in return. Does anyone here feel different, is this
something that you would want to happen? Of course not!

If this is what USENET has come to, this is proudly the end of my
countless years on usenet. I feel saddened, yet relieved at the same
time. Some of you might want consider the same. The community has lost
the ability to police itself, group norms mean nothing anymore. Because
most of you are decent people, you would never post anything like this.
You would not even think to do it. And I bet very few of you found one
bit of humor in it.

This doctored depiction exceeds all boundaries of decency. As someone who
is extrememly patriotic and has family members that have served, I
respect the office of the President. After all, the PEOPLE voted him in,
he was not beamed aboard. You show your disapproval by presenting logical
arguments, or at the voting booth, but not by posting vulgar filth as
this. It is insulting to this country, and equally insulting to those who
come here to discuss golf. If you want to see frontal nudity, there are
other places one can go, this is not what RSG is about. There are
boundaries of decency, IMHO certain boundaries have been exceeded. If the
poster feels otherwise, he certainly has the right to, in that case I
feel sorry for him.


God bless America and happy holidays to all at RSG.

_____________________________________________________________________�

R&B

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:50:09 PM11/28/09
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On 2009-11-26 23:39:43 -0500, annika1980 <annik...@aol.com> said:

> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/464187569_bf147142c7_o.jpg


Some say poor taste. But their silence about the photoshopped images
of Obama as a monkey or as Hitler is revealing.

Personally, I think the only problem with this is that you Photoshopped
the "bush" on to the wrong Bush. It belongs on the dickless former
president.

Randy

BAR

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:18:38 PM11/28/09
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In article <2009112817500975249-noneofyourbusiness@allcom>,
none_of_yo...@all.com says...

The fact that you can't see the difference speaks volumes about you.

Say what you want about Mr. Bush but why attack his wife?

Say what you want about Mr. Obama but why attack his wife?

Attacking the President or former President is fair game but attacking
the spouse is in bad taste.

R&B

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:25:36 PM11/28/09
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I didn't hear you object when Michelle Obama was the target of attacks
and racial slurs.

Hypocrite.

Randy

Quiet Please. No Cameras No Cell Phones Just Golf

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On Nov 28, 5:25�pm, "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...@all.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-28 18:18:38 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <2009112817500975249-noneofyourbusiness@allcom>,
> > none_of_your_busin...@all.com says...

>
> >> On 2009-11-26 23:39:43 -0500, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> said:
>
> >>>http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/464187569_bf147142c7_o.jpg
>
> >> Some say poor taste. � But their silence about the photoshopped images
> >> of Obama as a monkey or as Hitler is revealing.
>
> >> Personally, I think the only problem with this is that you Photoshopped
> >> the "bush" on to the wrong Bush. �It belongs on the dickless former
> >> president.
>
> > The fact that you can't see the difference speaks volumes about you.
>
> > Say what you want about Mr. Bush but why attack his wife?
>
> > Say what you want about Mr. Obama but why attack his wife?
>
> > Attacking the President or former President is fair game but attacking
> > the spouse is in bad taste.
>
> I didn't hear you object when Michelle Obama was the target of attacks
> and racial slurs.
>
> Hypocrite.
>
> Randy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Three Words ,,,, FREEDOM OF SPEECH ....however you can not say
simply
anything you want anytime. For Example You can not yell " Fire" in
the movie
house. Right rational .. Why - Because can get killed or injured if
the the madness
begins. Read books study decisions. Oh bythe way, Socialists dont
want you to
have Free Speech. Same for the Marxists U know the ones ..in the
obama gang.
Some of the freaks working in the gangs...want to shut you up . Shut
down Talk
Radio. Stop anything they can think of. If you want that - u just
may get it .
IF YOU ARENT SCARED TO EFFING Death - you arent paying attention.
If the dictator gets his way ....do you REEEEEELY think that he will
allow
this posting ??

BAR

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In article <2009112818253650073-noneofyourbusiness@allcom>,
none_of_yo...@all.com says...

When was that?

> Hypocrite.
>
> Randy


bkn...@conramp.net

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:39:04 AM11/29/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:28:07 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

>In article <2009112818253650073-noneofyourbusiness@allcom>,
>none_of_yo...@all.com says...
>>

>> I didn't hear you object when Michelle Obama was the target of attacks

>> and racial slurs.
>
>When was that?

Just a few.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53911892@N00/2667210631/

http://wizbangblue.com/2009/06/15/gop-racist-attacks-michelle-obama.php

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Conservative+Free+Republic+blog+free+speech+flap+after+racial+slurs+directed+Obama+children/1782375/story.html

http://www.ostroyreport.com/2008/08/right-wings-racist-attacks-on-michelle.html

etc, etc, etc.

And you say you're well informed Bert?

BK

aeiouy

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:05:15 AM11/30/09
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"Bobster" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:7JqdnZ3-tOquEo3W...@giganews.com...

>
> "Clifford T. Newsome" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:rO%Pm.36890$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad...
>> Why don't you lecture about decency to the assholes who changed and/or
>> wiped out the lives of hundreds of thousands of people on both sides of a
>> completely unnecessary war?
>>
>> The Bush crime family, including the enabling wife, deserve whatever they
>> get. Whatever they get, they get off way too easy.
>
> Hey Cliffy, it looks like President Teleprompter is about ready to
> escalate his war in Afghanistan and send over an additional 30, 000 troups
> .
His war? It's only his because it takes a Democrat to clean up the mess
left behind by Bush

annika1980

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:42:23 PM11/30/09
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On Nov 28, 3:10 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> It is disrespectful and what did
> the former First Lady do to deserve this?  In fact, what would anyone do
> to deserve this?   This is a man's wife, a mother, and a respected public
> figure.  
> Hope that  the poster sees this as a learning experience and thinks twice
> before posting such crap in the future.  

Wow, glad I didn't post this pic of Laura's big asshole.
http://bit.ly/1GzAl

BigSlicer

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You posted something that was clearly inappropriate and it is interesting
that you continue to compound it with additional silliness. That
picture you placed a few days ago is not funny, not one bit funny. If
you think it is funny, you are probably alone thinking that. No
reasonable person would support what you did. No reasonable person
would post filth like this.

No one deserves a likeness as you placed here. If you disagree with the
politics of Bush, there are certainly more mature and responsible ways to
show it.

________________________________________________________________________�

annika1980

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On Dec 1, 8:09 am, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> You posted something that was clearly inappropriate and it is interesting
> that you continue to compound it with additional silliness.    That
> picture you placed a few days ago is not funny, not one bit funny.   If
> you think it is funny, you are probably alone thinking that.   No
> reasonable person would support what you did.    No reasonable person
> would post filth like this.

I posted a link to a photo on someone else's site so apparently
someone else thought it was funny.


Do a Google image search for "Laura's Bush" and see what comes up
first.

annika1980

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On Nov 28, 4:40 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> I have been on the Internet from day 1.  Probably have seen it all.  This
> post takes the cake.  
> I have thick skin, this depiction makes my blood curdle.  There are limits
> to everything, to use golf lingo, this is really OVER THE TOP!
>

So you're saying I muffed that one?

BigSlicer

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On Dec 1 2009 10:40 AM, Anica1980 wrote:

> On Dec 1, 8:09�am, "Big Slicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > You posted something that was clearly inappropriate and it is interesting
> > that you continue to compound it with additional silliness. � �That
> > picture you placed a few days ago is not funny, not one bit funny. � If
> > you think it is funny, you are probably alone thinking that. � No
> > reasonable person would support what you did. � �No reasonable person
> > would post filth like this.
>
> I posted a link to a photo on someone else's site so apparently
> someone else thought it was funny.
>
>

> Do a Goggle image search for "Laura's Bush" and see what comes up
> first.

What a utterly silly response. Just because someone else originated this
filth as you state gives you license to spread it further? The picture
is inappropriate and disrespectful. It is not funny regardless of who
originally composed this doctored photo. Your reposting it on RSG is
equally not funny. You are recycling and spreading filth, that is all
you have accomplished. You are compounding a wrong, by reposting
something that is clearly wrong and immoral. Nothing good comes out of
this. And remember that this is a site open to all ages, if for no other
reason your giving a link to this inappropriate photo is clearly wrong.
If you find this funny, you are probably alone or close to alone in
thinking this.

Rationalize all you want, what you posted was wrong and inappropriate.
Grow up.

dsc-ky

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Dec 3, 2009, 11:27:14 AM12/3/09
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> Attacking the President or former President is fair game but attacking
> the spouse is in bad taste.

Somtimes you are judged by the company you keep...

BigSlicer

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Dec 5, 2009, 6:49:24 PM12/5/09
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What incredibly stupid logic! She was a dignified, classy lady. She kept
a low profile, very little bad was ever said of her.

No one deserves to have a doctored photo posted here, as we have
witnessed. Regardless of what your political persuasion is.

The posting of this doctored photo is the epitome of bad taste. Anyone
who has any remote sense of decency should be offended by this complete
and utter filth. And of all places, posting this on a golf group and one
that is open to all ages. How stupid can one be?

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annika1980

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Dec 5, 2009, 7:49:00 PM12/5/09
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On Dec 5, 6:49 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Dec 3 2009 11:27 AM, dsc-ky wrote:
>
> > > Attacking the President or former President is fair game but attacking
> > > the spouse is in bad taste.
>
> > Somtimes you are judged by the company you keep...
>
> What incredibly stupid logic!  She was a dignified, classy lady.  She kept
> a low profile, very little bad was ever said of her.
>

Well, she did murder her boyfriend.

kenpitts

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Dec 5, 2009, 9:11:36 PM12/5/09
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On Nov 26, 10:39 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
> http:// <snip>

Regardless of your opinions about the former president, Laura Bush is
a very decent woman. She doesn't deserve this. I can imagine the
reaction from the left side of the bus if Nancy Pelosi, Hillary or the
First Lady were done up like this. While I don't agree with much of
what any of these three have to offer, I would be against this kind of
disrespectful treatment of the Speaker of the House, the Secretary of
State or the First Lady.

I have been the target of a Photshop attack. Luckily I had the
original photo to refute what was being attempted. That would be a
cheap attempt to make me appear to weigh 350 pounds instead of the 220
that I actually weigh. Not that anyone cares, but I felt violated.

Not your finest moment Bret.

Ken

kenpitts

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On Nov 29, 8:39 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:28:07 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >In article <2009112818253650073-noneofyourbusiness@allcom>,
> >none_of_your_busin...@all.com says...

>
> >> I didn't hear you object when Michelle Obama was the target of attacks
> >> and racial slurs.
>
> >When was that?
>
> Just a few.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53911892@N00/2667210631/
>
> http://wizbangblue.com/2009/06/15/gop-racist-attacks-michelle-obama.php
>
> http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Conservative+Free+Republic+...
>
> http://www.ostroyreport.com/2008/08/right-wings-racist-attacks-on-mic...

>
> etc, etc, etc.  
>
> And you say you're well informed Bert?
>
> BK

Bobby -

The NewYorker article was actually supportive of the Obamas and the
drawing was meant to portray how conservatives perceived then
candidate Obama and his wife. Source of this is not conservatives.
Liberals did that to themselves and then cry wolf?

The guy in South Carolina? Regretable to refer to any black with a
comparison to a gorilla. I'll give you that one. About as offensive to
me as what then VP Gore did in making a remark about the "extra
chromosome right". We have a victim of birth defects in our family.

Free Republic? About like citing a post from here. Or Daily Kos -
which is a hateful place from the left. And it's a problem that a post
remained up for 24 hours? They get thousands of posts every day.

"The Ostroy Report is a fresh, aggressive voice for Democrats and a
watchdog of the Republican Party. While our mission is to support our
new President Barack Obama and help build a greater Democratic
majority in Congress, " They're really objective. And they delve into
code words instead of naked racism?

That is one out of four. Thanks for playing.

Otherwise, best regards.

Ken

bkn...@conramp.net

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Dec 5, 2009, 10:26:41 PM12/5/09
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:57:12 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:

Are you kidding Ken? Do you actually think that there were no
attacks or racial slurs against Michelle Obama?

It doesn't matter if you want to object to specific publishers, but
there have been attacks and racial slurs against Michelle Obama, and
if you deny that you're a blind to facts as BAR.

Thanks for playing dumb.

Otherwise, best regards.

BK

kenpitts

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Dec 6, 2009, 12:02:05 AM12/6/09
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On Dec 5, 9:26 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:57:12 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> BK- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Bobby -

Your four prime examples proved to be 25%.

Cite someone other than a knuckledragger making a racist remark about
the first lady or the president. If it is not a person of substance, I
can go to Daily Kos and get all kinds of assassination chic posts
about the former president.

Bottom line. Annika was way OB to post this trash photoshopped thing
portraying the former first lady naked from the waist down. She does
not deserve it at all.

Ken

bkn...@conramp.net

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Dec 6, 2009, 3:20:47 AM12/6/09
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:02:05 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Dec 5, 9:26�pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:


>> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:57:12 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The guy in South Carolina? Regretable to refer to any black with a
>> >comparison to a gorilla. I'll give you that one.

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>> >Ken
>>
>> Are you kidding �Ken? �Do you actually think that there were no
>> attacks or racial slurs against Michelle Obama? �
>>
>> � It doesn't matter if you want to object to specific �publishers, but
>> there have been attacks and racial slurs against Michelle Obama, and
>> if you deny that you're a blind to facts as BAR.

>


>Bobby -
>
>Your four prime examples proved to be 25%.

So what? It proves the point that there were racial remarks said
about Michelle Obama, and that was the point. Nowhere did I mention
whether it was done by a Republicans, or any specific group.


>
>Cite someone other than a knuckledragger making a racist remark about
>the first lady or the president. If it is not a person of substance, I
>can go to Daily Kos and get all kinds of assassination chic posts
>about the former president.
>

Ken, think with an open mind for one second of your life. Of course
only idiots would make such remarks...but it has been done. I can go
to ultra-right web sites and find the same kind of crap about the
other sides thinking. Since I don't read either ultras web sites I
didn't.

My original post was to answer BAR's asking when anyone made racial
remarks about Ms. Obama and I did, and you admitted to one of them.
That's enough. ONE IS ENOUGH.

>Bottom line. Annika was way OB to post this trash photoshopped thing
>portraying the former first lady naked from the waist down. She does
>not deserve it at all.
>

Bottom line, I guess you "accidentally" missed my post that said just
that.

Before you go off on one of your far-right tantrums, get your facts
straight. I answered BAR's question correctly.

BK

dsc-ky

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On Dec 5, 6:49 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

dsc-ky

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On Dec 5, 6:49 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

I'm not justifying/excusing the pictures and I agree with you about LB
being a pretty decent lady. Hell, I think GWB is a pretty decent guy.
Did he make mistakes? Sure... who doesn't? The picture crossed the
line. I cringed when I saw it... and I'm certainly not squeamish about
the nude female human body. :)

That doesn't change the fact that you are often judged by the company
you keep. I don't think much of 'Obama... and I don't think much of a
woman that would marry Obama either. I don't think much of Reverend
Wright and I don't think much of anyone that could sit in his church
for 20 (or whatever) years as well as be close friends with him and
not know what the man is all about. I can't stand Roseanne Barr... but
we won't go there. :)

Annika doesn't think much of GWB... he's not likely to like/respect/
think much of GWB's spouse either. That is his motivation and I get
that.

dsc-ky

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On Dec 6, 3:20 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:02:05 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 5, 9:26 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> >> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:57:12 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >The guy in South Carolina? Regretable to refer to any black with a
> >> >comparison to a gorilla. I'll give you that one.
> <clip>
> >> >Ken
>
> >> Are you kidding  Ken?  Do you actually think that there were no
> >> attacks or racial slurs against Michelle Obama?  
>
> >>   It doesn't matter if you want to object to specific  publishers, but
> >> there have been attacks and racial slurs against Michelle Obama, and
> >> if you deny that you're a blind to facts as BAR.
>
> >Bobby -
>
> >Your four prime examples proved to be 25%.
>
> So what?  It proves the point that there were racial remarks said
> about Michelle Obama, and that was the point.  


What's the point... of that point. There are probably racial remarks
made about most every presidential candidate and their families. Ken's
point seems to be consider the source... and that's not entirely bad
advice and definitely applies to this thread.

dsc-ky

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:27:02 AM12/6/09
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On Dec 5, 9:11 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 26, 10:39 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > http:// <snip>
>
> Regardless of your opinions about the former president, Laura Bush is
> a very decent woman. She doesn't deserve this. I can imagine the
> reaction from the left side of the bus if Nancy Pelosi,

Pelosi... yuck!

kenpitts

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While I find the Speaker's politics revolting, I can see that she
might have been fairly attractive back in her day.

http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/5629-Feminist-in-the-US,-Subservient-in-Syria.html

One of my very favorite former girlfriends is a dyed in the wool
leftist. She would turn the US into Sweden in a heart beat if given
half a chance. We used to have some uhhhh "spirited" disussions and
then carry that passion over to the later parts of the evening.

Ken

kenpitts

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On Dec 6, 2:20 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:02:05 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> BK- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Even though you don't respect my opinions, I always think with an open
mind. You just disagree with my conclusions because I have
conservative (not "far right") values.

I have since seen that you stated your disapproval of Bret's original
post. Thank you for that.

I would like to know if you had the same kind of outrage for the never
ending attacks on Bush and Cheney, especially the fantasies about
their deaths including such expressions from the Hollywood and media
elite.

Ken

kenpitts

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>
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Don't forget the terrorist bomber Wm Ayers, who helped launch Obama's
political career!

Thanks for this post Dudley.

Ken

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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:19:13 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Dec 6, 2:20�am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:

I have never wished harm to either, and it is an outrage for anyone to
do that.

Anything short of that though, they deserve.

BK

kenpitts

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On Dec 6, 11:40 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:19:13 -0800 (PST), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>

Bush and Cheney were shown the door when they left office. As with
Nixon, I think it can be left at that.

Ken

BigSlicer

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> >I would like to know if you had the same kind of outrage for the never
> >ending attacks on Bush and Cheney, especially the fantasies about
> >their deaths including such expressions from the Hollywood and media
> >elite.
> >
> >Ken
>
> I have never wished harm to either, and it is an outrage for anyone to
> do that.
>
> Anything short of that though, they deserve.
>
> BK

Maybe a bit harsh there Bob. You agreed the picture that was posted here
was wrong. There are boundaries, this exceeded by a longshot any
boundary I am aware of. People that harbor that much anger that they wish
or state death or harm, or have to resort to posting doctored images like
what we saw here are in many cases truly disturbed individuals. Most of
us channel our dissatisfaction the right way, but some are dyfunctional
and lack this ability. Or they hunger for attention so bad, this is the
only way they can achieve it. We have great freedoms here, but we also
have boundaries. Those that exceed these boundaries put future enjoyment
of these great freedoms at risk for all the rest of us.

And thank you for being one the few to express your opinion about the
inappropriate filth that was posted here. You are right on, you have my
absolute respect. God bless you Bob for taking the high road!

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Dec 6, 2009, 1:31:33 PM12/6/09
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> Bottom line. Annika was way OB to post this trash photoshopped thing
> portraying the former first lady naked from the waist down. She does
> not deserve it at all.
>
> Ken

Thank you sir for calling this post for what it is. Yes sir, way OB.

The OP might think he was funny. He might think he was entertaining us.
He might think he was making some type of profound political statememt.
Whatever his thought process, it seemshe failed quite miserably and ends
up looking foolish and inmature in the end.

God bless you Sir for your taking the high moral ground here!

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I am certinly not a fan of GWB, think he will go down in history as in
the lower 25% of US presidents, but propogating such a disgusting
picture of the former first lady is flat out wrong! I'm not sure which
is worse, creating it or spreading it. Bret may have thought it was
funny but, then, some folks might think that train wrecks are funny.

If someone photoshopped a picture of my wife like that I would do my
utmost to find the creator and take a gun to him. Hey, I'm 77 and would
likely die before they could fry me for it.

kenpitts

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Dec 6, 2009, 4:11:42 PM12/6/09
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Attaboy Kenn!!!!

Ken

dsc-ky

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On Dec 6, 12:13 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 9:27 am, dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...@eku.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 5, 9:11 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 26, 10:39 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > http:// <snip>
>
> > > Regardless of your opinions about the former president, Laura Bush is
> > > a very decent woman. She doesn't deserve this. I can imagine the
> > > reaction from the left side of the bus if Nancy Pelosi,
>
> > Pelosi... yuck!
>
> While I find the Speaker's politics revolting, I can see that she
> might have been fairly attractive back in her day.
>
> http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/5629-Feminist-in-the-...

>
> One of my very favorite former girlfriends is a dyed in the wool
> leftist. She would turn the US into Sweden in a heart beat if given
> half a chance. We used to have some uhhhh "spirited" disussions and
> then carry that passion over to the later parts of the evening.
>
> Ken

At one time she may have been good on the inside... that time has
passed...

dsc-ky

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I didn't just got tired of typing... he is surrounded by questionable
people... by choice actually.

dsc-ky

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> If someone photoshopped a picture of my wife like that I would do my
> utmost to find the creator and take a gun to him.  Hey, I'm 77 and would
> likely die before they could fry me for it.

That's why you don't mess with old people... :)

BigSlicer

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Very well said Kenn.

You raise an interesting issue, what is worse, creating it or spreading
it. IMHO. the person that spreads it is a whole lot worse. Because we
can't control that someone created it, there will always be sick minds out
there. But we can sure control the spreading of it. Spreading filth
compounds a wrong.

Sadly, there are sick minds out there that find humor in things that
clearly are not humerous. Yes, there are surely people out there that
would find great humor and delight in a train wreck. Seems like no one
found any humor in this posting. If this was some attempt to entertain,
inform , or make some type of political statmement, it was a very lame and
inept attempt indeed.

Most men would agree with you. They would be pissed if that was their
wife. They would be looking for blood. Well, I am not an advocate of
violence, would rather work within the confines of the law. Because
dirtbags that originate or spread vulgar doctored photos are not worth
going to jail for. Go to the FBI's web site, I discovered a link where
you can report potential criminal activity. Another poster mentioned a
site called obscenitycrimes.org, there is a link where you can report
possible obscenity with the US Attorney's office. And of course, we can
always go to the local or state police or contact an attorney. So when
we see filth on the internet and we believe it exceeds the boundaries of
free speech, there is a place to go and we can let the law decide what is
or is not within the proper boundaries of the law. Individuals who post
filth on the net might think they have free reign to do as they see fit,
they do not! We should not tolerate these things when we see it, because
our silence empowers these individuals to carry on. And having the right
of free speech as we do, is something we should value., It is gold.
Those that abuse it, place that freedom in jeapardy for the rest of us.

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You should hear Dennis Miller talk about her. Wow!

Ken

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On Dec 6, 7:09 pm, "BigSlicer" <a5a6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Dec 6 2009 3:53 PM, Kenn Smith wrote:
>
> > I am certinly not a fan of GWB, think he will go down in history as in
> > the lower 25% of US presidents, but propogating such a disgusting
> > picture of the former first lady is flat out wrong!  I'm not sure which
> > is worse, creating it or spreading it. Bret may have thought it was
> > funny but, then, some folks might think that train wrecks are funny.
>
> > If someone photoshopped a picture of my wife like that I would do my
> > utmost to find the creator and take a gun to him.  Hey, I'm 77 and would
> > likely die before they could fry me for it.
>
> Very well said Kenn.
>
> You raise an interesting issue, what is worse, creating it or spreading
> it.  IMHO. the person that spreads it is a whole lot worse.  

There's no difference... both bad choices.

dsc-ky

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Oh, I have... and he's right IMO.

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