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1000 studies showing the dangers of the "vaccines"

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Irving S

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Jan 20, 2022, 10:30:54 AM1/20/22
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Some of you always sat cite. well here are some cites. Some from very reputable sources. 1000 studies showing the dangers or potential dangers of the clot shot.

www.lewrockwell.com/2022/01/vasko-kohlmayer/dangerous-and-deadly-over-1000-scientific-studies-referencing-injuries-and-deaths-from-covid-vaccines/

I will say again. If most of this is garbage, and even 5-10% is valid, any person who breathes and has a beating heart would have to be just a bit worried before taking the jab. Yet, no matter what data is presented, most of the vaccinated stand in line like sheep. many willing to accept jab after jab after jab. Jabs that are sold by many people who lie, overstate, and have motives other than public health. Many folks have become rich from all this, and governments have enacted powers never before taken. You gotta be an absolute idiot to at least not consider other agendas here.

Amazing. Whatever you say in defense of the jab is gospel, any data to the contrary is laughed at, viewed as conspiratorial, and the integrity of the writer questioned. Sounds rather cult like to me.

Alan

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Jan 20, 2022, 11:58:48 AM1/20/22
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That page references another page...

...and when that pages starts with:

"Over One Thousand Scientific Studies Prove..."

...you know they have a bias.

TomS

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:01:28 PM1/20/22
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And WHY doesn't the CDC list these potential adverse reactions? If a pharmaceutical company did this they would face lawsuits for failure to warn. I personally know two people who ended up in the hospital after being vaccinated.

TomS

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:03:26 PM1/20/22
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I guess the Fool is as inept at following a couple of links as he is at using Google:
https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vaccine-scientific-proof-lethal/

TomS

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:04:59 PM1/20/22
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...and here is just ONE of those studies:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022510X21003014

Alan

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:09:40 PM1/20/22
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Which is precisely the web page I just quoted.

TomS

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:10:17 PM1/20/22
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...and that study produced these startling results:

Results
Until May 19, we found 877 articles with the searched terms. We found 12 articles, which overall present clinical features of 36 patients with CVST and VITT after the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine. Moreover, two articles were noted, which present 13 patients with CVST and VITT after Ad26.COV2 vaccine. The majority of the patients were females. Symptom onset occurred within one week after the first dose of vaccination (Range 4–19 days). Headache was the most common presenting symptom. Intracerebral hemorrhage (ICH) and/or Subarachnoid hemorrhage (SAH) were reported in 49% of the patients. The platelet count of the patients was between 5 and 127 cells×109/l, PF4 IgG Assay and d-Dimer were positive in the majority of the reported cases. Among 49 patients with CVST, at least 19 patients died (39%) due to complications of CVST and VITT.

I regard a THIRTY NINE PERCENT death rate for CVST to be PRETTY DAMN SERIOUS.

Alan

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:22:39 PM1/20/22
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"RARE cases of vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT)
and cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) after viral vector vaccines
(ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine, Ad26.COV2 vaccine) have been reported."

And the whole thing is a meta report, so you can't actually see how many
cases were involved in that "rare".

Alan

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:23:19 PM1/20/22
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That's 39% of those who developed the side-effects...

...but out of how many who received the shot?

TomS

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Jan 20, 2022, 12:31:35 PM1/20/22
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YOUR claim was there WEREN'T thousands of studies - this is but ONE of them that REFUTES you claim. Go download the report and report back on what you find.

Alan

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Jan 20, 2022, 1:14:04 PM1/20/22
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No. My claim was that the two websites...

His original reference/link and the website that that one then references

...aren't credible sources that anything has been "PROVEN".

Bigbird

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Jan 21, 2022, 5:19:51 AM1/21/22
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TomS wrote:

> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 7:30:54 AM UTC-8, Irving S wrote:
> > Some of you always sat cite. well here are some cites. Some from
> > very reputable sources. 1000 studies showing the dangers or
> > potential dangers of the clot shot.
> >
> > www.lewrockwell.com/2022/01/vasko-kohlmayer/dangerous-and-deadly-ove
> > r-1000-scientific-studies-referencing-injuries-and-deaths-from-covid
> > -vaccines/
> >
> > I will say again. If most of this is garbage, and even 5-10% is
> > valid, any person who breathes and has a beating heart would have
> > to be just a bit worried before taking the jab. Yet, no matter what
> > data is presented, most of the vaccinated stand in line like sheep.
> > many willing to accept jab after jab after jab. Jabs that are sold
> > by many people who lie, overstate, and have motives other than
> > public health. Many folks have become rich from all this, and
> > governments have enacted powers never before taken. You gotta be an
> > absolute idiot to at least not consider other agendas here.
> >
> > Amazing. Whatever you say in defense of the jab is gospel, any data
> > to the contrary is laughed at, viewed as conspiratorial, and the
> > integrity of the writer questioned. Sounds rather cult like to me.
>
> And WHY doesn't the CDC list these potential adverse reactions?

Don't they? You didn't even look did you, Betty.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

> If a
> pharmaceutical company did this they would face lawsuits for failure
> to warn. I personally know two people who ended up in the hospital
> after being vaccinated.



I know of millions of people who have ended up in the hospital after
voting Trump.

First prove cause and effect then show the statistical probability.

There are adverse affects to all medicines. Have you never read the
contraindications on any medicines?

Some very common, widely used medicines have common adverse effects
that can result in a hospital visit.

Ever taken:
Aspirin;
aplastic anaemia; erythema nodosum; gastrointestinal haemorrhage
(severe); granulocytosis; haemorrhagic vasculitis; intracranial
haemorrhage; menorrhagia; nausea; thrombocytopenia; vomiting
fluid retention; gastrointestinal disorders; headache; hearing loss;
hepatic failure; hyperuricaemia; iron deficiency anaemia; renal
impairment; sodium retention; tinnitus; vertigo


Paracetamol
angioedema; liver injury; severe cutaneous adverse reactions (SCARs);
skin reactions
flushing; tachycardia; agranulocytosis; bronchospasm; hepatic function
abnormal; rash; blood disorder

Ibuprofen
constipation (in adults); diarrhoea (in adults); dizziness (in adults);
fatigue (in adults); gastrointestinal disorders (in adults);
haemorrhage (in adults); headache (in adults); inflammatory bowel
disease (in adults); insomnia (in adults); nausea (in adults); oral
disorders (in adults); vertigo (in adults); vomiting (in adults)
acute kidney injury (in adults); anxiety (in adults); nephritis
tubulointerstitial (in adults); nephrotic syndrome (in adults); oedema
(in adults); tinnitus (in adults); vision disorders (in adults)
headache; nausea; rash (discontinue)
agranulocytosis (in adults); alopecia (in adults); anaemia (in adults);
auditory disorder (in adults); confusion (in adults); depression (in
adults); heart failure (in adults); hepatic disorders (in adults);
hypersensitivity vasculitis (in adults); hypertension (in adults);
hypotension (in adults); infection exacerbated (in adults);
irritability (in adults); leucopenia (in adults); meningitis aseptic
(patients with connective-tissue disorders such as systemic lupus
erythematosus may be especially susceptible) (in adults); myocardial
infarction (in adults); neck stiffness (in adults); palpitations (in
adults); pancreatitis (in adults); pancytopenia (in adults);
photosensitivity reaction (in adults); psychotic disorder (in adults);
renal papillary necrosis (in adults); respiratory disorders (in
adults); severe cutaneous adverse reactions (SCARs) (in adults); shock
(in adults); systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) (in adults);
thrombocytopenia (in adults)

You truly are just a demented old fart Betty.


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Bigbird

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Jan 21, 2022, 6:05:33 AM1/21/22
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"The term “vaccine” was changed recently to incorporate this illegal,
unlawful medical experiment to facilitate usage of mRNA technology that
is demonstrably not a vaccine, and which contains biologically toxic
nano-metamaterials associated with 5G urban data gathering capability."

"We can now confirm the 2017 depopulation defence-intelligence
documents, showing the planned murder of over 55 million across the
United Kingdom by 2025 using this biochemical weapon."

What sort of nutjob references a site like that.

You truly are a mentally defective, demented old fart, Betty.

TomS

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Jan 21, 2022, 11:14:13 PM1/21/22
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Hey Fool, NOTHING is ever PROVEN by your libtard standards - are there or ARE THERE NOT - 1,000 such studies???

TomS

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Jan 21, 2022, 11:15:30 PM1/21/22
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BirdBrain seems to think that Trump was responsible in some way for these illnesses - typical of a lunatic!

Bigbird

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Jan 22, 2022, 5:23:59 AM1/22/22
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..and yet again, with his complete lack of English comprehension Betty
proves he was never capable of being accepted by a real university.

Noted that you were unable to respond in an intelligent any intelligent
way whatsoever; pretty much an admission of your innate stupidity.

What's it like to humiliate yourself with every post, Betty.

You truly are a demented old fart.

Bigbird

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Jan 22, 2022, 5:24:19 AM1/22/22
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...and what in your demented little mind do you think that study shows
that has not been in the mainstream media and widely known for many
months?

From the CDC site that you falsely claimed did not warn of adverse
effects.

"Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome (TTS)
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) is a rare but serious
adverse event that causes blood clots or issues with clotting. TTS
after COVID-19 vaccination is rare. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines
and adverse events, including TTS."

Bigbird

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:11:55 AM1/22/22
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That is because you are half wit who understands NOTHING but is fooled
into thinking he knows something, very easily indeed.

You are clearly too stupid to even ask yourself what the risk is of
manifesting CVST.

Let me help humiliate you.

The risk of CVST from the AZ vaccine in the UK is 3.6 per million.
The risk of CVST from the J&J vaccine in the USA is 0.9 per million.

(I believe they are the two riskiest vaccines)

The risk of manifesting CVST in covid patients is over 200 per million.

That is just CVST.

So the question is:
Are you intelligent enough to feel really fucking stupid right now?

To hammer the point home. If we apply your 39% that gives 0.35 per
million in the USA for the J&J vaccine or approximately 73 if every
adult were vaccinated with that vaccine.

How does that compare with the number of adults who have dies from
covid in the USA?

So, simple question for the simple minded.
What is worse 73 deaths or 887,643?

Take your time.

You pretend that you can read and understand technical studies so
here's a simple one to get your teeth into.

Risk–benefit analysis of COVID-19 vaccines — a neurological perspective
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-021-00606-5

Read it and perhaps you will feel less SCARED and stop feeling the need
to share your unwarranted FEARS by relaying meaningless garbage as if
it were anything else.

You truly are a demented old fart, Betty

Bigbird

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:16:20 AM1/22/22
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Are you withdrawing this claim then or are you just deflecting because
you have realised how fucking DUMB it is?

Bigbird

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:16:24 AM1/22/22
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There are thousands of studies about everything in this world but NONE
of them support your FEAR based claims.

Alan

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Jan 22, 2022, 12:35:49 PM1/22/22
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Reality is not decided by vote, Tommie.

I don't know how many studies there are, but you don't even want to
examine how many studies disagree with yours, do you?

:-)

-hh

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Jan 22, 2022, 1:04:08 PM1/22/22
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On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:11:55 AM UTC-5, Bigbird wrote:
> TomS wrote:
> ….
>
> You are clearly too stupid to even ask yourself what the risk is of
> manifesting CVST.
>
> Let me help humiliate you.
>
> The risk of CVST from the AZ vaccine in the UK is 3.6 per million.
> The risk of CVST from the J&J vaccine in the USA is 0.9 per million.
> (I believe they are the two riskiest vaccines)
>
> The risk of manifesting CVST in covid patients is over 200 per million.
>
> That is just CVST.
>
> So the question is:
> Are you intelligent enough to feel really fucking stupid right now?
>
> To hammer the point home. If we apply your 39% that gives 0.35 per
> million in the USA for the J&J vaccine or approximately 73 if every
> adult were vaccinated with that vaccine.
>
> How does that compare with the number of adults who have dies from
> covid in the USA?
>
> So, simple question for the simple minded.
> What is worse 73 deaths or 887,643?
>
> Take your time.

What they’re also not realizing is that there very well can be a hundred
legitimate reports that identifies and quantifies the hazard levels of
risks A, B, C, … but their existence doesn’t automatically mean that
risks(A+B+C…) have to add up to be greater than what the drug was
developed to counter.

> You pretend that you can read and understand technical studies so
> here's a simple one to get your teeth into.
>
> Risk–benefit analysis of COVID-19 vaccines — a neurological perspective
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-021-00606-5
>
> Read it and perhaps you will feel less SCARED and stop feeling the need
> to share your unwarranted FEARS by relaying meaningless garbage as if
> it were anything else.
>

Indeed, it’s only going to get FDA approved if that risk sum is significantly
less: that’s the basics of Risk:Benefit assessments..

-hh

Tom Seim

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Jan 22, 2022, 2:10:22 PM1/22/22
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There is a BIG difference between a drug that you voluntarily take and one that is forced upon you; with the former YOU decide if the risk is worth the benefit, with the latter you HAVE NO CHOICE. It is even worse when Lyin' Biden does it SOLEY on his own w/o ANY authorization by Congress. What else could the fool make us do against our will?

And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/
And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks. Plus, there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are swept under the rug.

Alan

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Jan 22, 2022, 2:15:32 PM1/22/22
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There is no difference in a drug's efficacy or safety based on whether
you take it voluntarily or whether it's mandated.

>
> And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
> https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/

So you think they're right about the "9,810" figure...

...but don't want to acknowledge that that is out of 442 MILLION vaccine
doses administered...

...nor the fact that the same paragraph goes on to say:

'Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including
deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.
A review of available clinical information, including death
certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal
link to COVID-19 vaccines.'

Tom Seim

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Jan 22, 2022, 2:23:04 PM1/22/22
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And you can't say the vaccine WASN'T responsible. You libtards wanted to change the entire law enforcement structure based on ONE DEATH, so TEN THOUSAND is very significant, especially to those people that died and their families.

> >
> >
> > And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks. Plus,
> > there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are swept
> > under the rug.

Note your silence on this LACK of disclosure. Also note your instant response to my post (I live RENT FREE in your head!).



Alan

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Jan 22, 2022, 5:03:16 PM1/22/22
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It's up to you to prove it WAS, not me to prove it wasn't.

>>>
>>>
>>> And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks.
>>> Plus, there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that
>>> are swept under the rug.
>
> Note your silence on this LACK of disclosure. Also note your instant
> response to my post (I live RENT FREE in your head!).

Or, that's when I happened to see your post.

And the "LACK of disclosure" was already debunked.

Alan

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Jan 22, 2022, 5:04:53 PM1/22/22
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On 2022-01-22 11:23 a.m., Tom Seim wrote:
> Also note your instant response to my post (I live RENT FREE in your head!).

If 8 minutes means that you live in my head...

...then what does your 5 minute reply to me indicate?

:-)

-hh

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Jan 22, 2022, 5:40:02 PM1/22/22
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Precisely. Tommy is desperately trying to conflate safety with policy.


> > And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
> > https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/
>
> So you think they're right about the "9,810" figure...
>
> ...but don't want to acknowledge that that is out of 442 MILLION vaccine
> doses administered...
>
> ...nor the fact that the same paragraph goes on to say:
>
> 'Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including
> deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.
> A review of available clinical information, including death
> certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal
> link to COVID-19 vaccines.'

Nor the fact that that’s a year’s worth of VAERS data, while more than
9,810 Americans died of CoVid just last week.

> > And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks. Plus,
> > there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are swept
> > under the rug.

So all it would take to debunk Tommy is just one URL on the CDC website
that mentions any vaccine risk? Hmmm…better offer old Tommy a Welch-
proof wager beforehand…

-hh

Bigbird

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Jan 23, 2022, 7:09:42 AM1/23/22
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<crickets>

Betty simply has nothing to counter with.

> > What they’re also not realizing is that there very well can be a
> > hundred legitimate reports that identifies and quantifies the
> > hazard levels of risks A, B, C, … but their existence doesn’t
> > automatically mean that risks(A+B+C…) have to add up to be greater
> > than what the drug was developed to counter.
> > > You pretend that you can read and understand technical studies so
> > > here's a simple one to get your teeth into.
> > >
> > > Risk–benefit analysis of COVID-19 vaccines — a neurological
> > > perspective https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-021-00606-5
> > >
> > > Read it and perhaps you will feel less SCARED and stop feeling
> > > the need to share your unwarranted FEARS by relaying meaningless
> > > garbage as if it were anything else.
> > >
> > Indeed, it’s only going to get FDA approved if that risk sum is
> > significantly less: that’s the basics of Risk:Benefit assessments..
> >
> > -hh
>
> There is a BIG difference between a drug that you voluntarily take
> and one that is forced upon you; with the former YOU decide if the
> risk is worth the benefit, with the latter you HAVE NO CHOICE.

Like wearing a seatbelt or a crash helmet, say.

Do you wear a seatbelt, Betty.

[snip DEFLECTION and WHATABOUTISM]

LOL

You truly are a demented old fart, Betty.

Bigbird

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Jan 23, 2022, 7:16:50 AM1/23/22
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Tom Seim wrote:

> And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
>
https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/

LIAR. Those people did not dies as a result of the vaccine.

> And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks.

LIAR.

A REALLY FUCKING STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIE.

You have replied to posts containing links to the advisories you claim
don't exist.

There are lies, there are stupid lies then there are "REALLY FUCKING
STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIES"

> Plus,
> there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are swept
> under the rug.

Sure. Thousands of reports you claim yet the conclusions swept under
the rug.

If you knew how stupid you sound you'd shoot yourself.

You truly are one DISHONEST, STUPID, DEMENTED OLD FART, Betty.

:-)

Bigbird

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Jan 23, 2022, 7:19:57 AM1/23/22
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YES, WE CAN.

Claiming it is the most stupid fucking lie.

You've referenced 1000 studies and NONE of them support such a
ridiculously unintelligent premise.

YOU TRULY ARE ONE DISHONEST, STUPID, DEMENTED OLD FART, Betty.

TomS

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Jan 24, 2022, 7:14:32 PM1/24/22
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On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:16:50 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:
> Tom Seim wrote:
>
> > And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
> >
> https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/
> LIAR. Those people did not dies as a result of the vaccine.

And you have PROOF that they didn't?

> > And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks.
> LIAR.

Go show us on the CDC website where they warn about blood clots (thrombosis)

>
> A REALLY FUCKING STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIE.

If you CAN'T then YOU are the LIAR!

>
> You have replied to posts containing links to the advisories you claim
> don't exist.
>
> There are lies, there are stupid lies then there are "REALLY FUCKING
> STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIES"

Who the hell is Betty?

> > Plus,
> > there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are swept
> > under the rug.
> Sure. Thousands of reports you claim yet the conclusions swept under
> the rug.
>
> If you knew how stupid you sound you'd shoot yourself.

That would make your fucking day!

>
> You truly are one DISHONEST, STUPID, DEMENTED OLD FART, Betty.

That is a BADGE OF HONOR coming from such a STUPID FUCK!

-hh

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Jan 24, 2022, 7:54:45 PM1/24/22
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On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 7:14:32 PM UTC-5, TomS wrote:
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:16:50 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:
> > Tom Seim wrote:
> >
> > > And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
> > >
> > https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/
> > LIAR. Those people did not dies as a result of the vaccine.
>
> And you have PROOF that they didn't?

Ever bother to read any of the VAERS listings Tommy?

Case in point, here's some from their database:

"ACCIDENTAL OVERDOSE "Moderna COVID- 19 Vaccine EUA Patient was found deceased
in the community near his home address on 2/24/21. The Medical Examiner's cause of death
is currently listed as ""Drug Intoxication - Accidental Overdose."" Per the MEO, post mortem
urine toxicology was positive for cocaine and fentanyl. His death is believed to be related to
a cocaine product that was adulterated with fentanyl and is not believed to be related in any
way to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. This was explicitly stated by the Medical Examiner's Office."

TL;DR: drug overdose.

Similarly:

"BONE FRAGMENTATION On 1/23/21 the patient had a single-car accident, slid off icy road into
snowbank. She was seen in our ER, diagnosed w/ trauma and L4 compression fracture. She was
transported to Hospital for further trauma workup. We believe she was treated and released. On 1/31/21
the patient had a headache but did not seek medical attention. In the morning of 2/1 she became
unresponsive and was pronounced dead on the scene when EMS arrived. Autopsy showed a left
temporal subdural hematoma."

TL;DR: undetected injury from a car accident

Likewise:

"[vaccination date of 12/30/20] Resident had fall 0130 on 1-15-2021, which resulted in
laceration with surgical repair. Resident was noted to change in mental status and
respirations on morning of 1-16-2021 during morning blood sugar check. Resident had
O2 @1.5l/m via n/c and respirations of 10 with periods of apnea and unresponsive
to verbal stimuli. Blood sugar was 583. Resident deceased upon re-check after calling
PCP to report status change."

TL;DR: elderly; 2+ weeks after vacc, got up during the night & fell on way to bathroom; died the next day.


> > You have replied to posts containing links to the advisories you claim
> > don't exist.
> >
> > There are lies, there are stupid lies then there are "REALLY FUCKING
> > STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIES"
>
> Who the hell is Betty?

You are, Karen! /s


-hh

TomS

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Jan 24, 2022, 10:46:23 PM1/24/22
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Hey Lyin' Asshole, you have 9,998 to go...

-hh

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Jan 24, 2022, 11:23:08 PM1/24/22
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> Hey Lyin' Asshole, you have 9,998 to go...

On the contrary: I merely needed to show that it’s a raw data collection
which hasn’t had causality determined. As such, I really only needed to
provide one example … but chose to have three to prevent your whining.

I actually know what VAERS is supposed to do and how it is deliberately
structured to accept a high rate of false positives so as to reduce the
odds of missing true positives, for these can be and are separated later
in post.

All you’ve done is shown you don’t know that VAERS isn’t a list of causal
confirmed cases…or for that matter, know modern sampling methods either.

Here’s the clue for you: for a given resource level, the sum of the sampling
alpha & beta errors are essentially constant, such that if you want to minimize
alpha, then beta grows, and likewise if you want beta minimized, alpha grows.


-hh

Bigbird

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Jan 25, 2022, 2:39:22 AM1/25/22
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TomS wrote:

> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:16:50 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:
> > Tom Seim wrote:
> >
> > > And the risks are real. It is not 73 deaths, it is TEN THOUSAND:
> > >
> >
https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/
> > LIAR. Those people did not dies as a result of the vaccine.
>
> And you have PROOF that they didn't?
>

Sure, the absolute absence of any suggestion they did despite over a
thousand studies that you wanted to draw attention to.

> > > And the CDC website says exactly NOTHING about these risks.
> > LIAR.
>
> Go show us on the CDC website where they warn about blood clots
> (thrombosis)
>

I already have in response to your previous lies.

I have posted references and quoted the site.

Are you going to double down on your LIES by claiming otherwise?

Only a demented old fart and a LIAR would have any trouble finding it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

"Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome (TTS)
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) is a rare but serious
adverse event that causes blood clots or issues with clotting. TTS
after COVID-19 vaccination is rare. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines
and adverse events, including TTS."

> >
> > A REALLY FUCKING STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIE.
>
> If you CAN'T then YOU are the LIAR!
>

...but I can and you clearly are the LIAR.

> >
> > You have replied to posts containing links to the advisories you
> > claim don't exist.
> >
> > There are lies, there are stupid lies then there are "REALLY
> > FUCKING STUPID BETTY LEVEL LIES"
>
> Who the hell is Betty?
>

Don't be coy, Betty; you have been responding to the moniker for years.

> > > Plus,
> > > there are an untold number of severe adverse reactions that are
> > > swept under the rug.
> > Sure. Thousands of reports you claim yet the conclusions swept
> > under the rug.
> >
> > If you knew how stupid you sound you'd shoot yourself.
>
> That would make your fucking day!
>

How so. Like a demented old fart you would simply fade away.

> >
> > You truly are one DISHONEST, STUPID, DEMENTED OLD FART, Betty.
>
> That is a BADGE OF HONOR coming from such a STUPID FUCK!

Well I guess it's the closest you'll ever come... but it demonstrates
you low morality that you would claim being a low life is an honour.

Tom Elam

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Jan 26, 2022, 9:44:31 AM1/26/22
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On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 10:30:54 AM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
> Some of you always sat cite. well here are some cites. Some from very reputable sources. 1000 studies showing the dangers or potential dangers of the clot shot.
>
> www.lewrockwell.com/2022/01/vasko-kohlmayer/dangerous-and-deadly-over-1000-scientific-studies-referencing-injuries-and-deaths-from-covid-vaccines/
>
> I will say again. If most of this is garbage, and even 5-10% is valid, any person who breathes and has a beating heart would have to be just a bit worried before taking the jab. Yet, no matter what data is presented, most of the vaccinated stand in line like sheep. many willing to accept jab after jab after jab. Jabs that are sold by many people who lie, overstate, and have motives other than public health. Many folks have become rich from all this, and governments have enacted powers never before taken. You gotta be an absolute idiot to at least not consider other agendas here.
>
> Amazing. Whatever you say in defense of the jab is gospel, any data to the contrary is laughed at, viewed as conspiratorial, and the integrity of the writer questioned. Sounds rather cult like to me.

I worked for Big Pharma for over 20 years. I saw what went on "behind the curtains" in research. I was first in line to get the Pfizer vaccine. I was first in line to get the booster. I'll take another if available. VAERS is not a valid source of this data. The fact is that starting with mass vaccination deaths were reported as adverse events that would have never entered the VAERS system had the vaccines never be deployed. You are confusing cause and effect.

Where is the study that shows the overall incidence of the causes of "side-effect" deaths reported in VAERS have increased by a significantly significant amount?

There is recent evidence that vaccinated individuals are many times less likely to be hospitalized from COVID. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zGXX6kDPBs

If not for the vaccines we would have people dying in the streets like the plague epidemics of the 14th century.

Tom Elam

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Jan 26, 2022, 9:47:10 AM1/26/22
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On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 11:58:48 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-01-20 7:30 a.m., Irving S wrote:
> > Some of you always sat cite. well here are some cites. Some from very reputable sources. 1000 studies showing the dangers or potential dangers of the clot shot.
> >
> > www.lewrockwell.com/2022/01/vasko-kohlmayer/dangerous-and-deadly-over-1000-scientific-studies-referencing-injuries-and-deaths-from-covid-vaccines/
> >
> > I will say again. If most of this is garbage, and even 5-10% is valid, any person who breathes and has a beating heart would have to be just a bit worried before taking the jab. Yet, no matter what data is presented, most of the vaccinated stand in line like sheep. many willing to accept jab after jab after jab. Jabs that are sold by many people who lie, overstate, and have motives other than public health. Many folks have become rich from all this, and governments have enacted powers never before taken. You gotta be an absolute idiot to at least not consider other agendas here.
> >
> > Amazing. Whatever you say in defense of the jab is gospel, any data to the contrary is laughed at, viewed as conspiratorial, and the integrity of the writer questioned. Sounds rather cult like to me.
> That page references another page...
>
> ...and when that pages starts with:
>
> "Over One Thousand Scientific Studies Prove..."
>
> ...you know they have a bias.

Bingo Alan!
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