Adjustments
Howard Brazee
ball, and I was told I wasn't holding my lag long enough. I had been
working mostly at hitting straight.
Since then I have found a fair amount of way fat shot on the range,
but not on the course (probably because I wasn't thinking swing shots
so much), and I had a consistent push.
When I hit fat, I see my divots go in to out.
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On Saturday morning, it got cold and windy after I played 9 holes -
the wind bothers my putting. Until then, I had 10 putts, but 9
strokes lost to hazards (I seem to have forgotten how to hit out of
our hard sand traps). After the wind came, my putting got worse.
Oddly enough, my driver's head came off during warm-up, so I took out
an old driver from my car but my drives were straight.
I have to think about keeping my head and butt from moving during my
swing - I am very flexible and have always had trouble hitting fat or
thin. I have never in my life had a shot with the "proper" divot to
the left of where my ball was. And I have spent hours with that as
my only objective.
Tim Brown
worry to much about how close you are to the ball. You might loose a bit of
distance by standing away from the ball, but perfecting the arc is much
easier when you feel as if the extension in your arms is part of the arc. If
you have a two plane swing it is a matter of timing. Based on your the
statements about moving your butt, it sounds like you might be working on
conflicting swings. The statement about your butt sounds like a single plane
issue while the statement about standing closer sounds like a two planer.
Are you taking lessons from a pro?
Tim
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Howard Brazee
<timothy...@verizon.net> wrote:
>The statement about your butt sounds like a single plane
>issue while the statement about standing closer sounds like a two planer.
>Are you taking lessons from a pro?
I'm currently taking weekly group lessons from a young pro.
Yesterday's was on putting, so I didn't have a chance to adjust my
last week's corrections. The more experienced pros are available for
considerably more money, and I just spent over $60 for a tank of gas
yesterday.
Alan Illeman
> the left of where my ball was. And I have spent hours with that as
> my only objective.
Practise short chip shots, two feet back and two feet through. You should
aim at the back, inside-aft quadrant of the ball with the club taking some
dirt. Contact with the ball should be downward, outward and forward.
You'll soon know when you're doing it correctly - by the crisp sound of
contact (and the in-to-out divots).
Don't overswing, you're not interested in distance (keep the body quiet),
only contact. Initially put the ball on a tee, just above the grass. This is
not a dainty stroke but one of conviction - as the ball hits the clubface
as hard as the clubface hits the ball. Line up a row of teed balls and work
through them diligently. Keep a log of how many crisp sounds you hear
(there's no mistaking the sound of crisp contact - believe me).
Practise, practise, practise..
Tim Brown
Most people feel more comfortable with a two plane swing (and a fade), but
long for a single plane swing (and a draw). Thank goodness most modern
instructors now know the difference and have some idea of what to teach
based on a students proclivities and goals. There is really no substitute
for finding a good instructor that can address your personal aspirations.
One size fits all usually does not fit anybody.
All that said. I could not afford private lessons. As a different responder
noted, there is no substitute for solid contact. Practice making solid
straight chip shots while exploring full swing possibilities. If your hits
tend to turn right or go straight left, you are probably inclined to a two
plane swing. If the balls you hit tend to turn left and go straight right
you probably lean to a single plane swing. If you are a beginner, and prone
toward a single plane, you probably do not want to change to a two planer.
If you are a beginner, and prone toward two planes, you might consider
changing your approach (I think a single plane is easier to self teach). If
you tend to two planes and have played more than 50 or 60 rounds you would
probably find it difficult to change your approach to the game. There is a
good article in this month's Golf Digest that goes through the basics of how
the different swings work. Keeping your butt still is clearly a "single
planers" thought, while putting the ball closer to you in your stance is
usually a "two planers" thought.
Not all instructors are PGA certified and many PGA instructors have not gone
through (relatively new) swing plane theory training. Ask your instructor.
If they seem to be hesitant in addressing a swing plane question, you might
have the wrong instructor.
Tim
Howard Brazee
<timothy...@verizon.net> wrote:
>All that said. I could not afford private lessons. As a different responder
>noted, there is no substitute for solid contact. Practice making solid
>straight chip shots while exploring full swing possibilities. If your hits
>tend to turn right or go straight left, you are probably inclined to a two
>plane swing. If the balls you hit tend to turn left and go straight right
>you probably lean to a single plane swing.
That fits with my impression - the 2nd describes my current game.
Fairway
> > Not all instructors are PGA certified and many PGA instructors have not gone
> through (relatively new) swing plane theory training. Ask your instructor.
> If they seem to be hesitant in addressing a swing plane question, you might
> have the wrong instructor.
Obviously lot´s of brilliant coachs and golfers don´t subscribe to his
ideas. And some of those who do are careful to define certain
variances. So perhaps a chap can stand close to the golf, keep his
butt still and play efficient golf. F
Birdie Bill
> Last week I had a swing lesson. I was told to move closer to the
> ball, and I was told I wasn't holding my lag long enough. I had been
> working mostly at hitting straight.
>
> Since then I have found a fair amount of way fat shot on the range,
> but not on the course (probably because I wasn't thinking swing shots
> so much), and I had a consistent push.
>
> When I hit fat, I see my divots go in to out.
Things people told you 7 or 8 years ago on this board now become
important because you finally went to a pro and heard it from him.
Problem is, now you have 8 to 10 years of habits to break. It won't
be easy.
Howard Brazee
<bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Things people told you 7 or 8 years ago on this board now become
>important because you finally went to a pro and heard it from him.
>Problem is, now you have 8 to 10 years of habits to break. It won't
>be easy.
I've never been six months without seeing a pro - since I started golf
9 years ago.