Best Component Driver Head
Annika1980
down the infamous Clanger because it's too big or too loud or some other such
nonsense.
Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down $400-$500
for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from components. The
Grafalloy ProLite 35 has always been my shaft of choice and I see no reason to
change now. But I'm still deciding on what component head to choose. I love
the looks of the SMT heads, but it seems they have fallen out of fashion among
the long drive crowd who now flock to the Alpha heads.
Any other good heads out there to consider?
Ron B
> OK gang, the calendar has dwindled down and the USGA has demanded that I lay
> down the infamous Clanger because it's too big or too loud or some other such
> nonsense.
Sorry for your loss.
>
> Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down $400-$500
> for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from components. The
> Grafalloy ProLite 35 has always been my shaft of choice and I see no reason to
> change now. But I'm still deciding on what component head to choose. I love
> the looks of the SMT heads, but it seems they have fallen out of fashion among
> the long drive crowd who now flock to the Alpha heads.
>
> Any other good heads out there to consider?
>
>
Hard to determine 'best', but:
KZG has excellent stuff; their RBT 325 and Gemini are great. The BoM
has been getting rave reviews...even Peter uses one! Also consider the
Snake Eyes 600 series, great head, several models to choose from.
0.02
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bear
Bangenstien FU2. Got one this summer and love it. It is loud and long
with a great name.
Rod
>
Steve Horvath
> Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down
$400-$500
> for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from
> the looks of the SMT heads, but it seems they have fallen out of
fashion among
> the long drive crowd who now flock to the Alpha heads.
>
> Any other good heads out there to consider?
As Ron stated, you may want to look at KZG, but they aren't
cheap either. You may find the Gemini too boring, it's
absolutely straight. You'd have to make a riduculous cut
to banana that one. They make one similar looking to the
Gemini, called the SP700 that's supposed to be more workable:
The heads are probably in the $200 range new, I picked up
a used Gemini 355cc with skymarks and it was still over $100.
KZG also makes their heads in various sizes 360cc, 400cc etc.
in addition to lofts. It seems like they don't release anything
until it's tested and passes, but I'm not sure. At least, I've
never seen even one of their products on the USGA "no-no" list.
If I wanted to try another brand, I'd look at Bang, but
I have no idea what they cost. I believe I read here,
that if one of their heads is deemed illegal after you
by it, the owner will let you trade to a conforming model??
Just curious, what model/size is your clanger? (integra, IIRC)??
Even at my skill level, I think anything over 360cc is unnecessary
and just looks plain wierd to my eye.
Steve
D.L.
Eyes from past years with mediocre success. But the 600T-C is very good.
Not any more distance, but it is the only driver I've hit that seems to help
straighten the direction..
D.L.
Fred Taylor
"Steve Horvath" <str...@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
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> KZG also makes their heads in various sizes 360cc, 400cc etc.
> in addition to lofts. It seems like they don't release anything
> until it's tested and passes, but I'm not sure.
Isn't that the way it should be? I thought only Microsoft released products
before they were tested. :)
Annika1980
>Just curious, what model/size is your clanger? (integra, IIRC)??
The Clanger was made by Tour Golf Products. It's 520cc's of clanging
adrenaline.
david s-a
have decided to move on as they are somewhat variable in their quality
control.......you may, or may not, get a good one!
I have moved on to the Tom Wishon '515grt' head which has some
interesting features...the not least of which is 'outstanding quality'.
Need a softer, rather than a stiffer shaft for real
satisfaction.....also, the 'matching' 3-wood and 5-wood are the best I
have ever come across.
Others here are recommending the KZG products.....also 'perfect'
quality.......but I understand they are not available in component form
unless you earn your living through clubmaking.
0.02
david
Dave Lee
Here
http://www.freegolfinfo.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1095899&mpage=1&key=􋯰
is a recent thread on freegolfinfo.com on a general inquiry on SMT heads.
Not a ton of info here, but useful none-the-less.
dave
"Annika1980" <annik...@aol.com> wrote in message
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David Sneddon
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>
>>OK gang, the calendar has dwindled down and the USGA has demanded that I
>
> lay
>
>>down the infamous Clanger because it's too big or too loud or some other
>
> such
>
>>nonsense.
>>
>>Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down
>
> $400-$500
>
>>for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from components.
>
> The
>
>>Grafalloy ProLite 35 has always been my shaft of choice and I see no
>
> reason to
>
>>change now. But I'm still deciding on what component head to choose. I
>
> love
>
>>the looks of the SMT heads, but it seems they have fallen out of fashion
>
> among
>
>>the long drive crowd who now flock to the Alpha heads.
>>
>>Any other good heads out there to consider?
I use the KZG RBT 325 and find it as good or better than anything else
out there. Certainly gives me all the distance I want.
If you use your present shaft, which you like, then it would just be the
cost of the head, plus maybe $10 to pull it off the Clanger and epoxy it
on the new head.
David
Steve Horvath
Yes, you'd think...? it would make sense from a manufacturing
perspective.
but I guess there's a market for those where it's legal in their
jurisdiction
or for some who don't care...
Re: M$ --> :-)
Steve Horvath
tsk tsk, you've built such a high tolerance.
Dave Lee
"Last Year's Technology" (TM R580XD, etc) used on ebay is another
cost-effective alternative.
dave
"Annika1980" <annik...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ulrich Mayring
>
> Bangenstien FU2. Got one this summer and love it. It is loud and long
> with a great name.
It is not loud, rather muted for a gun this big. I love this thing, too,
but it is not loud and perhaps a tad too forgiving for a good player.
Therefore I'd recommend the Bang-O-Matic for this patient, if it should
be a head from Bang. About $100. Also, doesn't Tour Golf Products make
this fabled 5n2 head? Or was that Tour Swing? Damn, these companies all
sound the same...
Ulrich
Kenny Stultz
says...
IMHO, when money is a consideration, the Big Bang 450 offers the best
yard/dollar value in the market.
It's put my BOM in the basement.
Kenny
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bill-o
>
> IMHO, when money is a consideration, the Big Bang 450 offers the best
> yard/dollar value in the market.
>
> It's put my BOM in the basement.
>
> Kenny
>
Now there is a testamonial!
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bill-o
Peter Strauss
> In article <20041227101632...@mb-m21.aol.com>, annik...@aol.com
> says...
> >
> >OK gang, the calendar has dwindled down and the USGA has demanded that I lay
> >down the infamous Clanger because it's too big or too loud or some other such
> >nonsense.
> >
> >Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down $400-$500
> >for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from components. The
> >Grafalloy ProLite 35 has always been my shaft of choice and I see no reason to
> >change now. But I'm still deciding on what component head to choose. I love
> >the looks of the SMT heads, but it seems they have fallen out of fashion among
> >the long drive crowd who now flock to the Alpha heads.
> >
> >Any other good heads out there to consider?
> >
> >
>
> IMHO, when money is a consideration, the Big Bang 450 offers the best
> yard/dollar value in the market.
>
> It's put my BOM in the basement.
>
As a recent BoM owner, I'll make you a deal, OK?
STFU!
That's the deal.
<Bastid'll cost me money...>
IcUrdazedandconfused
How about something the rest of us don't have to watch consistently
draw and land in the fairway. Personally, I'm sick of listening to
the Clanger........
(Much more fun watching Sparky hit out of the woods waaay past you....
BTW, That's me, in the woods way short of you....)
Annika1980
>Personally, I'm sick of listening to
>the Clanger........
>
>(Much more fun watching Sparky hit out of the woods waaay past you....
>BTW, That's me, in the woods way short of you....)
I was in the woods today.
Didn't see you, but I saw this guy:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/37959123
Annika ----> loves big Hooters
MyQ
news:20041227101632...@mb-m21.aol.com:
> <polite snip>
>
> Any other good heads out there to consider?
>
Annika, I'm also a big fan of the ProLite 35 shaft -- I reshafted most of
my Titleist drivers with X-flex Prolite 35 shafts.
My big surprise this year was falling in love with a Snakes Eyes 600T
(haven't tried the T-C or T-J etc.) -- got it at 8.5* loft as part of a
kit with a Royal Precision tour stiff Vector Saber shaft -- built it to
D4 at 44.5". Even though half an inch shorter, it outdistances any of my
975 series Titleist drivers and seems remarkably accurate (much higher
percentage of short grass). Black head finish looks gorgeous, sets up
really nicely at address. Very forgiving for mishits yet I can work it
gently either way almost on command -- it's hard to hit a big cut or hard
draw, but half fairway shaping is really comfortable. I was not
expecting to like the 600T but right now the magic lingers! Tried a lot
of other drivers this year but the 600T has yet to be bested.
My technology of the year award goes to the KZG Gemini -- I've seen
average drivers of the ball (doesn't sound like you ;-)) turn into good
drivers of the ball with that club. Very long and very forgiving but when
I tried it I found I couldn't work it consistently -- hard to get any
shape and sometimes surprising double-crosses! Seems to straighten
almost any swing out. Only thing I really hate is KZG's policy of only
selling their components to "professional" clubmakers -- I'm an
"amateur" clubmaker and I fix a lot of the screw-ups made by the kind of
"acredited" and "professional" clubmakers that KZG sells to. But KZG does
make great components.
Good luck in your search. My 2 cents. YMMV. Sorry about the "big guy".
Play on. MyQ.
tt
That "Clouds" pic is awesome! Future desktop image.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/37379553
BTW, the "Squished Pano" pic is not showing.
I.Smithee
> Re: Attached
>
> "Last Year's Technology" (TM R580XD, etc) used on ebay is another
> cost-effective alternative.
Absolutely agree with this. Taylormade 580 XDs and 540 XDs are being
blown out for under $100. You have a choice of OEM or upgraded shafts
for the same money. I don't think you could even get close to this
money/performance buying new components.
Colleyville Alan
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> Annika1980 wrote:
>>>From: IcUrdazedandconfused IcUr...@confused.net
>>
>>
>>>Personally, I'm sick of listening to
>>>the Clanger........
>>>
>>>(Much more fun watching Sparky hit out of the woods waaay past you....
>>>BTW, That's me, in the woods way short of you....)
>>
>>
>> I was in the woods today.
>> Didn't see you, but I saw this guy:
>> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/37959123
>>
>> Annika ----> loves big Hooters
And owls as well...
>
>
> That "Clouds" pic is awesome! Future desktop image.
That's the best pic I've ever seen Bret post.
Mad'Doug
themselves worthy to grace rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and
uttered.....:
<snip>
>Only thing I really hate is KZG's policy of only
>selling their components to "professional" clubmakers -- I'm an
>"amateur" clubmaker
I didn't realise they had the policy. That'll explain why I haven't
been able to find anywhere to buy the iron heads.
I REALLY like the KZG Forged Evolution, but just can't seem to find
anyone here in NZ "selling" them.
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John van der Pflum
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>"tt" <tt@Not_Links.net> wrote in message
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>> Annika1980 wrote:
>>>>From: IcUrdazedandconfused IcUr...@confused.net
>>>
>>>
>>>>Personally, I'm sick of listening to
>>>>the Clanger........
>>>>
>>>>(Much more fun watching Sparky hit out of the woods waaay past you....
>>>>BTW, That's me, in the woods way short of you....)
>>>
>>>
>>> I was in the woods today.
>>> Didn't see you, but I saw this guy:
>>> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/37959123
>>>
>>> Annika ----> loves big Hooters
I think that's a barred owl. We have one in the woods in back of my
house. It's cool to hear him hooting at night during the summer (when
we have the windows open). We did hear it the other night though as
we were heading out to a Christmas party.
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Colin Wilson
> I REALLY like the KZG Forged Evolution, but just can't seem to find
> anyone here in NZ "selling" them.
The best you can do (from the KZG web site) is:
The Golf House Limited
10 Kingdon St
Newmarket
Auckland
Tel: 9529 1930
"... featuring a Bengston swing analyzer, hitting area, and putting
area. Sam Sullivan and James Colligan ... have fitted several USPGA Tour
players including Phil Tataurangi, Grant Waite, and Steve Alker as well
as European PGA Tour player Peter Fowler and Japan PGA Tour player
Richard Lee. They ... have many KZG demos on hand for you to test ..."
(I'm looking at some KZGs too. Two fitters in Melbourne ... no one here
just sells the heads either.)
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Colin Wilson
> Only thing I really hate is KZG's policy of only
> selling their components to "professional" clubmakers -- I'm an
> "amateur" clubmaker and I fix a lot of the screw-ups made by the kind of
> "acredited" and "professional" clubmakers that KZG sells to. But KZG does
> make great components.
Maybe the "professional" vs "amateur" distinction is not quite valid,
but I can see why KZG would want to limit their resellers to some form
of "qualified clubmaker".
They are trying to protect the integrity of their product by stopping
just anyone from buying them, then spreading bad opinions about their
heads when the clubmaking efforts are sub-standard.
Annika1980
>http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/37959123
>I think that's a barred owl.
Who barred him? You guys must have a moderated barn, eh?
Hank and Barb Swanson
OK gang, the calendar has dwindled down and the USGA has demanded that I
lay down the infamous Clanger because it's too big or too loud or some
other such nonsense.
Since I'm monetarily challenged I have no interest in plunking down
$400-$500 for a new brand name driver. So I'll be building one from
components. The Grafalloy ProLite 35 has always been my shaft of choice
and I see no reason to change now. But I'm still deciding on what
component head to choose. I love the looks of the SMT heads, but it
seems they have fallen out of fashion among the long drive crowd who now
flock to the Alpha heads.
Have the Integra heads fallen out of favor?
Question.what is the limit on the head
size?legal that is.I was interested in the
Integra 550cc soo long head.
Hank Swanson
Mad'Doug
<pub...@kyneton.net.au> deemed themselves worthy to grace
rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered.....:
>Mad'Doug wrote:
>
>> I REALLY like the KZG Forged Evolution, but just can't seem to find
>> anyone here in NZ "selling" them.
>
>The best you can do (from the KZG web site) is:
>
>The Golf House Limited
>10 Kingdon St
>Newmarket
>Auckland
>Tel: 9529 1930
>
>"... featuring a Bengston swing analyzer, hitting area, and putting
>area. Sam Sullivan and James Colligan ... have fitted several USPGA Tour
>players including Phil Tataurangi, Grant Waite, and Steve Alker as well
>as European PGA Tour player Peter Fowler and Japan PGA Tour player
>Richard Lee. They ... have many KZG demos on hand for you to test ..."
>
>(I'm looking at some KZGs too. Two fitters in Melbourne ... no one here
>just sells the heads either.)
He LIVES! yeah, I know about them, but they're in *UCK* Auckland.
John van der Pflum
bear
wrote:
>bear wrote:
>>
>> Bangenstien FU2. Got one this summer and love it. It is loud and long
>> with a great name.
>
>It is not loud, rather muted for a gun this big.
You just aren't swinging it hard enough :) Mine sounds like an
aluminum baseball bat when you nut it... of course having the infield
fly rule called is a tad embarrassing.
>I love this thing, too,
>but it is not loud and perhaps a tad too forgiving for a good player.
I'd agree that it is a very forgiving, it amazes me how far and
straight a miss hit can go. I have learnt not to bitch and moan until
I see where the ball ends up.
>
>Therefore I'd recommend the Bang-O-Matic for this patient, if it should
>be a head from Bang. About $100. Also, doesn't Tour Golf Products make
>this fabled 5n2 head? Or was that Tour Swing? Damn, these companies all
>sound the same...
Rod
IcUrdazedandconfused
Nah, couldn't have been me - He looks much smarter........
(He cares nothing of the leaves around him.....)
david s-a
"..........the size of the clubhead must not exceed 28.06 cubic inches
(460 cubic centimetres), plus a tolerance of 0.61 cubic inches (10 cubic
centimetres).
Note: Clubs in breach of the maximum size limit as specified in Appendix
ll, 4b (i), which were in use or marketed prior to January 1, 2004 and
which otherwise conform to the Rules, may be used until 31st December
2004........".
cheers
david