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B...@onramp.net

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May 26, 2017, 4:23:46 PM5/26/17
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Dene

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May 26, 2017, 11:45:35 PM5/26/17
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It's early.
It also proves that the Republicans have a big tent, unlike the Dems.

Alan Baker

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May 27, 2017, 12:11:07 AM5/27/17
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LOL!

Have you heard of the term "willful blindness"?

:-)

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 12:21:42 AM5/27/17
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So, trainwreck. Then it was let's see after 100 days. More trainwreck. Now, "it's early".

Greg, wake up. Trump used to say he was a Democrat. He's not a Democrat, and he's not a Republican either. He's an idiot.

Honestly he's such an idiot that I'm rethinking the efficacy of getting rid of him. The Republicans control the house, the senate and the white house and they're getting fuck-all done. Maybe it's best to leave Trump be, at least until he gets clobbered in the mid-term elections. After that, then toss his dumb ass.

Alan Baker

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May 27, 2017, 12:24:44 AM5/27/17
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What's hilarious is that he is using the "big tent" strawman to ignore
dealing with the fact that people on both sides of the aisle are
agreeing that Trump is a trainwreck.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 12:39:40 AM5/27/17
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All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid, so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.

But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election, so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 8:48:37 AM5/27/17
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 20:45:32 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
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True, there's more to come.

>It also proves that the Republicans have a big tent, unlike the Dems.

No, it just proves that some are coming to their senses.

Dene

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May 27, 2017, 11:11:53 AM5/27/17
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- show quoted text -
All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid, so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.

But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election, so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.

You should keep your wet dreams to yourself, Carbs. ;-)

Here is the problem with your theory. The Democrats have no vision, no leaders, and have hardly put the country first, choosing instead to be whiny obstructionist in the face of badly needed legislation pertaining to healthcare, border control, and tax reform. There is no democratic vision for any of these items. Just butt hurt that they lost the election, fueling a contrived collusion investigation that will yield little to nothing. By the time the midterms roll around, Americans will realize who is trying to accomplish things and who is sitting on their elitist asses.

Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 12:01:08 PM5/27/17
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This is just stupid. The established facts are Trump's truly awful approval ratings and the continuing Trump-Russia collusion investigations that are edging ever closer to the White House.

For example, I'm sure you've seen this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/jared-kushner-russian-ambassador-kremlin/

Through his lawyer, Jared Kushner officially "doesn't remember" any such calls to set up a secret back-channel between Trump's team and the Kremlin.

It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.

> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.

No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.



B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 12:28:26 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 08:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:

>- show quoted text -
>All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough
>integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid,
> so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.
>
>But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election,
>so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.
>
>You should keep your wet dreams to yourself, Carbs. ;-)
>
>Here is the problem with your theory. The Democrats have no vision, no leaders, and have hardly put the country first,
>choosing instead to be whiny obstructionist in the face of badly needed
>legislation pertaining to healthcare, border control, and tax reform. There is no democratic vision for any of these items.

Their vision is to stop the absolute idiocy of what is being put
forward by Trump and the Republican congress. Healthcare is a dead
issue, border patrol is as good as it will get, the tax reform is
weighted so heavily to the rich and destructive to the poor it will
have to be restructured. The Dems are doing all that they can at this
point. What you'd like is for them to just rubber stamp the crap that
has been suggested so far. They aren't, and good for them.
>Just butt hurt that they lost the election,
That's getting old Greg. Supposition on your part.

>fueling a contrived collusion investigation that will yield little to nothing.

The FBI thinks differently. Let's see what the bipartisan committee
finds.
>By the time the midterms roll around, Americans will realize who is trying to accomplish things and who is sitting on their elitist asses.

They're fighting the most ridiculous ideas to have been put forth in
decades. That's not elitism, the tax plan so far is elitist.
>
>Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.

Talk about wet dreams.

John B.

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May 27, 2017, 6:56:00 PM5/27/17
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A big tent full of white people. No one else wants to go in it.

Dene

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May 27, 2017, 7:09:43 PM5/27/17
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- hide quoted text -
On 05/27/2017 11:11 AM, Dene wrote:

> All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid, so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.
>
> But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election, so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.
>
> You should keep your wet dreams to yourself, Carbs. ;-)
>
> Here is the problem with your theory. The Democrats have no vision, no leaders, and have hardly put the country first, choosing instead to be whiny obstructionist in the face of badly needed legislation pertaining to healthcare, border control, and tax reform. There is no democratic vision for any of these items. Just butt hurt that they lost the election, fueling a contrived collusion investigation that will yield little to nothing. By the time the midterms roll around, Americans will realize who is trying to accomplish things and who is sitting on their elitist asses.

This is just stupid. The established facts are Trump's truly awful approval ratings and the continuing Trump-Russia collusion investigations that are edging ever closer to the White House.

For example, I'm sure you've seen this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/jared-kushner-russian-ambassador-kremlin/

Through his lawyer, Jared Kushner officially "doesn't remember" any such calls to set up a secret back-channel between Trump's team and the Kremlin.

Even if it was a suggestion within a conversation, was a crime committed? Where is the evidence? Speculation speculation speculation.

It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.

> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.

No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.

There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 7:35:51 PM5/27/17
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On 05/27/2017 07:09 PM, Dene wrote:
> On 05/27/2017 11:11 AM, Dene wrote:
>>>
>>>> All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid, so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.
>>>>
>>>> But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election, so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.
>>>
>>> You should keep your wet dreams to yourself, Carbs. ;-)
>>>
>>> Here is the problem with your theory. The Democrats have no vision, no leaders, and have hardly put the country first, choosing instead to be whiny obstructionist in the face of badly needed legislation pertaining to healthcare, border control, and tax reform. There is no democratic vision for any of these items. Just butt hurt that they lost the election, fueling a contrived collusion investigation that will yield little to nothing. By the time the midterms roll around, Americans will realize who is trying to accomplish things and who is sitting on their elitist asses.
>>
>> This is just stupid. The established facts are Trump's truly awful approval ratings and the continuing Trump-Russia collusion investigations that are edging ever closer to the White House.
>>
>> For example, I'm sure you've seen this:
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/jared-kushner-russian-ambassador-kremlin/
>>
>> Through his lawyer, Jared Kushner officially "doesn't remember" any such calls to set up a secret back-channel between Trump's team and the Kremlin.
>
> Even if it was a suggestion within a conversation, was a crime committed? Where is the evidence? Speculation speculation speculation.

The Russia investigations are not going away. You need to make your peace with it.

>> It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.
>>
>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>
>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>
> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.

Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.


Dene

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May 27, 2017, 8:12:33 PM5/27/17
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The Russia investigations are not going away. You need to make your peace with it.

The special counsel will finish his investigation and nothing significant will come of it, except the loss of credibility from Democrats and their presstitutes.

>> It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.
>>
>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>
>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>
> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.

Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.

There has to be something to fill the vacuum and the Democrats have nothing. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 8:41:25 PM5/27/17
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On 05/27/2017 08:12 PM, Dene wrote:
>
>> The Russia investigations are not going away. You need to make your peace with it.
>
> The special counsel will finish his investigation and nothing significant will come of it, except the loss of credibility from Democrats and their presstitutes.

I am impressed by your Kreskin-like powers. Unfortunately Trump has been in bed with the Russians for years. So yeah, this is a gift that's gonna keep on giving. As you know, Trump has been radioactively unpopular with legitimate US banks for years due to his many bankruptcies and being leveraged up the ying-yang. But miraculously, he was able to keep pounding out golf courses all through the Bush recession. How is this possible, you ask? I'll let Eric Trump, spawn of Donald Trump, explain:

"We don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 8:44:17 PM5/27/17
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On 05/27/2017 08:12 PM, Dene wrote:

>>>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>>>
>>>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>>>
>>> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.
>>
>> Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.
>
> There has to be something to fill the vacuum and the Democrats have nothing.. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.

You keep saying this like it isn't a meaningless trope.



Alan Baker

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May 27, 2017, 10:18:18 PM5/27/17
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Which lost the popular vote for president and which won fewer seats in
congress than last time...

Dene

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May 27, 2017, 10:33:48 PM5/27/17
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Something illegal about this? You do know he is a businessman turn politician.

Dene

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May 27, 2017, 10:36:06 PM5/27/17
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Merely try to pierce your idealism and Trump hate.
Notice you haven't countered it either. Is that inward word voice telling you it's true it's true it's true.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 10:36:08 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 17:12:32 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>The Russia investigations are not going away. You need to make your peace with it.
>
>The special counsel will finish his investigation and nothing significant will come of it, except the
>loss of credibility from Democrats and their presstitutes.

You hope, but the investigation is just beginning.
>
>>> It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.
>>>
>>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>>
>>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>>
>> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.
>
>Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.
>
>There has to be something to fill the vacuum and the Democrats have nothing. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.

How would anyone know? The Republican majority in Congress isn't
listening to anyone else...even Trump any more. Why do you think that
all of the negative press for them is rampant. Yeah, whine about the
press. Another dead issue. Crying wolf got old.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 10:37:53 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:27:45 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
<nos...@noemail.com> wrote:

>Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> Wrote in message:
>>
>> The Russia investigations are not going away. You need to make your peace with it.
>
>The Russia investigations are going nowhere. It is a pitiful
> exercise in futility by snowflakes who can't deal with their own
> failure.
>
>It is a tombstone for the Democrat party.

Dream on. A full two years of this Republican mess is going to show
up in the mid terms.
>>
>>

Dene

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May 27, 2017, 10:39:30 PM5/27/17
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s have nothing. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.

How would anyone know? The Republican majority in Congress isn't
listening to anyone else...even Trump any more. Why do you think that
all of the negative press for them is rampant. Yeah, whine about the
press. Another dead issue. Crying wolf got old.

There are alot of wolves amongst the press. Anybody can see that.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 10:45:14 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:33:45 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
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He's a crook turned political crook.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 10:46:25 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
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>
No Greg, it isn't true. It's your warped supposition.

Alan Baker

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May 27, 2017, 10:47:34 PM5/27/17
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Do YOU know that if he owes lots of money to Russia that might just be
something worth knowing?

Alan Baker

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May 27, 2017, 10:48:00 PM5/27/17
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On 2017-05-27 7:36 PM, Dene wrote:
>
> On 05/27/2017 08:12 PM, Dene wrote:
>
>>>>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>>>>
>>>>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.
>>>
>>> Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.
>>
>> There has to be something to fill the vacuum and the Democrats have nothing.. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.
>
> You keep saying this like it isn't a meaningless trope.
>
> Merely try to pierce your idealism and Trump hate.

I don't hate Trump. He's just unfit to be president.

B...@onramp.net

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May 27, 2017, 10:48:50 PM5/27/17
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
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They're far outnumbered by the present administration.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 11:34:31 PM5/27/17
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Trump could walk out the front door of Emoluments Plaza and shoot an innocent bystander in the face, and people like you would still make excuses for him.

Carbon

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May 27, 2017, 11:35:36 PM5/27/17
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On 05/27/2017 10:48 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-05-27 7:36 PM, Dene wrote:
> On 05/27/2017 08:12 PM, Dene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.
>>>>
>>>> Trump doesn't know or care about the Republican agenda. In fact, pretty much nothing is getting done on that front because the Donald is lurching from one self-inflicted crisis to another. This is why I'm thinking it would be best to let him stay in office until after the 2018 midterm elections.
>>>
>>> There has to be something to fill the vacuum and the Democrats have nothing.. No message… No leadership… Nuttin.
>>
>> You keep saying this like it isn't a meaningless trope.
>>
>> Merely try to pierce your idealism and Trump hate.
>
> I don't hate Trump. He's just unfit to be president.

Bingo.

Dene

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May 28, 2017, 10:33:54 AM5/28/17
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> I don't hate Trump. He's just unfit to be president.

Bingo.

The RAT actually asserted something. How unusual and commendable.

Dene

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May 28, 2017, 10:58:25 AM5/28/17
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They're far outnumbered by the present administration.

Not true. One of your warped suppositions.

Dene

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May 28, 2017, 11:24:36 AM5/28/17
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Trump could walk out the front door of Emoluments Plaza and shoot an innocent bystander in the face, and people like you would still make excuses for him.

Depends whether the victim is a liberal loon...

B...@onramp.net

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May 28, 2017, 11:56:37 AM5/28/17
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 07:58:23 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:

>They're far outnumbered by the present administration.
>
>Not true. One of your warped suppositions.

Very true. Count the idiots in this administration, and there are
quite a few, and the legitimate media is small in comparison.

B...@onramp.net

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May 28, 2017, 11:58:05 AM5/28/17
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
> Trump could walk out the front door of Emoluments Plaza and shoot an innocent bystander in the face, and people like you would still make excuses for him.
>
>Depends whether the victim is a liberal loon...

So an innocent liberal is fair game for execution? I know this was
supposed to be funny, but it's telling.

Dene

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May 28, 2017, 12:01:51 PM5/28/17
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It tells only one thing....your suppositions are warped.

B...@onramp.net

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May 28, 2017, 12:35:26 PM5/28/17
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:01:48 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
What suppositions? Your words are in print Greg, and they're warped.

Dene

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May 28, 2017, 12:57:19 PM5/28/17
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Below is an example of your warped suppositions. Most of Trump's admin are fine, qualified patriots.

B...@onramp.net

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May 28, 2017, 3:28:41 PM5/28/17
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Below is an example of your warped suppositions. Most of Trump's admin are fine, qualified patriots.
>
>"Very true. Count the idiots in this administration, and there are
>quite a few, and the legitimate media is small in comparison."

It is absolutely true. Very few are qualified. Patriots? I think
they are, but only in the literal definition. Idiots? Start with
Trump and go down the list through his staff too. A few only.

B...@onramp.net

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May 28, 2017, 3:30:59 PM5/28/17
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That last sentence should be " A few aren't"

Alan Baker

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May 28, 2017, 4:15:11 PM5/28/17
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I assert positions all the time, Greg; and then argue them cogently and
civilly.

Too bad you can't say the same.

B...@onramp.net

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On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:52:45 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
<nos...@noemail.com> wrote:

>B...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>No kidding. Fox is about the only legitimate media.


You just love to be wrong.

B...@onramp.net

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On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:50:54 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
<nos...@noemail.com> wrote:

>B...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>There is no such thing as an innocent liberal loon.

It's easy to dismiss your stupidity when your position on dog fighting
is taken into consideration. You didn't think that would be
remembered did you?

Carbon

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May 28, 2017, 9:36:29 PM5/28/17
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Fox News is pretty terrible overall, although their polling is well regarded.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

John B.

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May 29, 2017, 12:44:43 PM5/29/17
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On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 7:09:43 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> - hide quoted text -
> On 05/27/2017 11:11 AM, Dene wrote:
>
> > All it's going to take is some percentage of Republicans in Congress and the Senate with enough integrity to put country before party, and Trump will be gone. Let's face it: Trump's not going to get less stupid, so the trainwrecks are going to continue. The outcome is totally inevitable.
> >
> > But I personally don't think it's right for the Republicans to benefit from an ill-gotten election, so I'd prefer that Trump not get the boot until after he gets killed in the 2018 mid-term elections.
> >
> > You should keep your wet dreams to yourself, Carbs. ;-)
> >
> > Here is the problem with your theory. The Democrats have no vision, no leaders, and have hardly put the country first, choosing instead to be whiny obstructionist in the face of badly needed legislation pertaining to healthcare, border control, and tax reform. There is no democratic vision for any of these items. Just butt hurt that they lost the election, fueling a contrived collusion investigation that will yield little to nothing. By the time the midterms roll around, Americans will realize who is trying to accomplish things and who is sitting on their elitist asses.
>
> This is just stupid. The established facts are Trump's truly awful approval ratings and the continuing Trump-Russia collusion investigations that are edging ever closer to the White House.
>
> For example, I'm sure you've seen this:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/jared-kushner-russian-ambassador-kremlin/
>
> Through his lawyer, Jared Kushner officially "doesn't remember" any such calls to set up a secret back-channel between Trump's team and the Kremlin.
>
> Even if it was a suggestion within a conversation, was a crime committed? Where is the evidence? Speculation speculation speculation.
>
> It would be useful for these fools to keep in mind that the US intelligence apparatus dragnets all foreign communications. This is Watergate, Ideocracy Edition.
>
> > Hopefully by then Trump will learn how to be president.
>
> No Greg, it's not going to happen. All Trump understands is celebrity, titties and money. There is nothing else.
>
> There is the Republican agenda, which is what elected him and the Republicans, three out of the last four elections.

Trump doesn't represent the Republican agenda. He represents the
Trump agenda, which is altogether different.
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