Deadline tonight

[Horva...@net.net]

Anybody signing up?


I didn't think so.



This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:45:01 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>Anybody signing up?
>
>
>I didn't think so.

Leave "so" off and that can be your sig.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/obamacare-deadline/longest-wait-maryland-residents-wait-line-last-ditch-obamacare-n68106

[larry]

NBC News is your source? NOBODY believes a darned thing that outfit
says. They were the original "You can keep your doctor" amplifier for
the White House lies.

MOST of the signups are people who already had health care, are
desperately sick and intend to pay only until they are healthy again,
then suspend payments, of course. WHAT FOOL would pay into a system
that will instantly accept you when you get sick or have an accident?
That is not insurance, that is just stupid.

The young and healthy KNOW that there will be no penalty, so they will
just continue along with no health insurance, spending the money if
they are not unemployed.

Lets face it. Obama put 30 MILLION healthy working people off of a
working health care system in order to extend it to the non-working
dregs of our society.

Larry

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:

Wow the can sign up 150 people per day. That will make a dent.
--

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:49:15 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote:

>In article <lhd4j3$7ou$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, nom...@nospam.com says...

>Maryland just said they are going to dump their exchange and duplicate
>what Connecticut has because apparently there is one exchange in the
>country that is functional. And, I heard that Oregon still hasn't signed
>up one person through their on-line exchange.

Yada yada yada. ACA is going to be around for a long time and you
assholes will still be whining. LOL

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message

>
> Yada yada yada. ACA is going to be around for a long time and you
> assholes will still be whining. LOL

BK doesn't care about the ineffectiveness of Obamacare. He doesn't
care that people lost their insurance or that Obamacare is more
expensive. He doesn't care about the broken promises. He
doesn't mind Obama writing legislation. He is willing to bail out
insurance companies. He doesn't care how much it hurts the
country as long as conservatives oppose it.

That is real anger.

[Puffin Killer]

wrote in message news:devjj9tmduaje4fnd...@4ax.com...

>Anybody signing up?


>I didn't think so.

Did Bidget Baker sign up?

[Horva...@net.net]

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:47:17 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>
>Yada yada yada. ACA is going to be around for a long time and you
>assholes will still be whining. LOL

No it won't. Several states are already dropping the Unaffordable
Care Crap.


This administration acts like rodeo clowns.
They run out and distract the audience
while behind the gate another team is setting
up the next act.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 07:46:55 -0400, "Puffin Killer"
<puffyth...@telus.net> wrote this crap:

Doesn't he live in Kanukistan?

[John B.]

On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> Anybody signing up?
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't think so.
>

7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.

[MNMikeW]

Is that the Obamacare definition of signing up? As in, having a plan in
the shopping cart?

How many have paid?

How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
Obamacare.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

I was out today.


follow me on twitter
hashtag HeroHorvath.com
or
hashtag FieldMarshallvonHorvath.com

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 17:42:34 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
><john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>> Anybody signing up?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't think so.
>>>
>>7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
>I was out today.
>

Intellectually you've been out since birth.

[Carbon]

No doubt you'll be shocked to learn your understanding is incomplete...

[bkn...@conramp.net]

I'll be shocked if he ever learns anything.

[Puffin Killer]

wrote in message news:06blj9to7355p6aom...@4ax.com...

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 07:46:55 -0400, "Puffin Killer"
<puffyth...@telus.net> wrote this crap:

>
>
>wrote in message news:devjj9tmduaje4fnd...@4ax.com...
>
>>Anybody signing up?
>
>
>>I didn't think so.
>
>
>Did Bidget Baker sign up?

>Doesn't he live in Kanukistan?

Palookaville.

[John B.]

You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
something else to rail against.

[Moderate]

"John B." <john...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

The Whitehouse knows. Why aren't they saying? If it were good
news it would be right out there.

[Carbon]

Behold the power of propaganda. If you spend enough money telling people
dogshit is awesome, they will insist it is so until their dying breath.
These fools have no clue what other systems are like and therefore no idea
how terrible this system is in comparison.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:44:20 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote this
crap:

>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>

>Signed up for what? Medicaid? Medicare? How many have actually purchased
>health care insurance with their own money? How many have been
>subsidized and how much of their health care insurance has been
>subsidized. How many are going to have credit card accounts opened in
>their name by their "Navigators?"

The same navigators who have criminal records?

[Horva...@net.net]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

Don't you even realize that it's already failed? October 1st was the
sign up day.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:49:44 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:44:20 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote this
>crap:
>
>>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>>
>>Signed up for what? Medicaid? Medicare? How many have actually purchased
>>health care insurance with their own money? How many have been
>>subsidized and how much of their health care insurance has been
>>subsidized. How many are going to have credit card accounts opened in
>>their name by their "Navigators?"
>
>The same navigators who have criminal records?

Ha! Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber have a dialogue.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

BAR wrote:
> Carbon says...
> > John B. wrote:
> > > MNMikeW wrote:
>
> > >> [list of questions]

>
> > > You are just desperate for this thing fail,
> > > aren't you? When you find that most or all
> > > have paid and were previously uninsured
> > > (one has to be to qualify), you'll wrack
> > > your brains to find something else to rail
> > > against.
> >
> > Behold the power of propaganda. If you spend
> > enough money telling people dogshit is awesome,
> > they will insist it is so until their dying breath.
>
> > These fools have no clue what other systems are like
> > and therefore no idea how terrible this system is in comparison.
>

> They've been telling us Obamacare is the best thing
> since sliced bread for 4 years now and when push came
> to shove it was revealed as the shit sandwich that it is.

All quite possible, but by the same token, the more time
that passes, the more opportunities exist for the truth
to come out, despite the efforts of huge dollars being
spent trying to sway public opinion to ignore the truth.

Case in point, two things that I've happened to have
heard in the news within the past week:

a) The premiums in the pre-ACA 'Status Quo' healthcare
industry are 25% higher than they should be, due to
marketplace inefficiencies.


b) There's been over 20 new healthcare companies created
as a result of ACA, with a large portion of them being
Co-Ops ... which by basic organizational structure and
function are NONPROFITS. While it is certainly years too
early to determine if they will be successful, the insurance
rates of the Co-Ops are ~8% lower than their for-profit
competitors.

What I personally conclude out of the above is the ongoing
myth of how private industry is always more "efficient" in
the marketplace - - and the reason why is because it has also
been said that a corporation's primary objective is always to
maximize profits for its shareholders.

Absent said profit incentive, the Co-Ops are apparently
already making a difference in providing better value,
with new customer signups in some markets favoring Co-Ops
over For-Profits by ratios as high as 4:1 (Maine) - - and what
is also quite trasparently obvious is that the deep pockets
of the established big corporations will (quite correctly!)
see this as a fundimental threat to their business models'
profits and will try to attack it in propoganda to try to
influence the tilt on the playing field so as to give them
a competitive edge. Personally, I fully expect that the
political donations from these industries will be significantly
increased in 2014, because that's unfortunately how bribes
...oh, sorry: "Campaign Contributions"... work in American
politics today.


-hh

[bkn...@conramp.net]

That will be ignored by the myopes here. As for their consistent
bitch about ACA policies being higher to those whose policies were
cancelled, insurance goes up for almost everyone in the industry
anyway, and the ACA policies are better.

Mine rose 25% this year.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:38:23 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote:

>In article <5rumj917s21t6dcro...@4ax.com>,
>bkn...@conramp.net says...

>> Ha! Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber have a dialogue.
>

>http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-
>third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/
>
>At best abut 2,000,000 million of the "uninsured" have purchased
>insurance via the exchanges.

LOL. You'll be whining the rest of your life about this, but ACA is
here to stay. Tough shit Bert.

PS. If you're going to post a link make sure you do it so it's
clickable. After all you're such a mensch about IT that it should be
easy for you. Not!

[MNMikeW]

Not at all. I just dont buy into the administrations numbers. They have
a track record of being a bit loose with the facts. I believe that 7
mill number is a sham. They must know who has paid, yet dont seem
interested in stating this number.

[MNMikeW]

Carbon wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:06:28 -0700, John B. wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:28:10 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> John B. wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anybody signing up? I didn't think so.
>>>>
>>>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>>>
>>> Is that the Obamacare definition of signing up? As in, having a plan in
>>> the shopping cart?
>>>
>>> How many have paid?
>>>
>>> How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
>>> Obamacare.
>>
>> You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you find
>> that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one has to be
>> to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find something else to rail
>> against.
>
> Behold the power of propaganda. If you spend enough money telling people
> dogshit is awesome, they will insist it is so until their dying breath.

We have been bombarded with ACA propaganda for months. Seems to have
worked on you.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:49:19 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>

>That will be ignored by the myopes here. As for their consistent
>bitch about ACA policies being higher to those whose policies were
>cancelled, insurance goes up for almost everyone in the industry
>anyway, and the ACA policies are better.
>
> Mine rose 25% this year.

I think you're lying. You're too old to work and your ugly wife is a
nurse, (or so you say.) You probably don't pay jack for health
insurance. And you're so bad in math you couldn't calculate 25%. You
couldn't put your fingers and toes in the right positions.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:58:38 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote
this crap:

>>
>> You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
>> find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
>> has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
>> something else to rail against.
>>
>Not at all. I just dont buy into the administrations numbers. They have
>a track record of being a bit loose with the facts. I believe that 7
>mill number is a sham. They must know who has paid, yet dont seem
>interested in stating this number.

I don't think they even know. The website is so sloppy they probably
have no way of knowing how many signed up.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
your ability to lie you'd be famous.

[MNMikeW]

So the "the average family will save $2500 a year" was BS.

[Moderate]

MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> Wrote in message:

>
> Not at all. I just dont buy into the administrations numbers. They have
> a track record of being a bit loose with the facts. I believe that 7
> mill number is a sham. They must know who has paid, yet dont seem
> interested in stating this number.
>

The ACA system is based on knowing who paid. The penalties
require conformation of who paid and who didn't. Of course they
have this information.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

I couldn't say. We're not the average family to begin with and you
can't compare a Medicare plan to family policies.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 09:54:14 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>
wrote this crap:

Some of it is on honor system. They have all your text messages and
your phone records but they don't know if you have insurance.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:19:43 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this

crap:

>>>
>>>That will be ignored by the myopes here. As for their consistent
>>>bitch about ACA policies being higher to those whose policies were
>>>cancelled, insurance goes up for almost everyone in the industry
>>>anyway, and the ACA policies are better.
>>>
>>> Mine rose 25% this year.
>>
>>I think you're lying. You're too old to work and your ugly wife is a
>>nurse, (or so you say.) You probably don't pay jack for health
>>insurance. And you're so bad in math you couldn't calculate 25%. You
>>couldn't put your fingers and toes in the right positions.
>>
>
>Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>your ability to lie you'd be famous.

I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
calculate 25% of that.

BTW, Obamacare was supposed to save everyone money. I hope you enjoy
your savings while eating Mac and Cheese tonight.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

You continue to be the most despicable person with whom I've ever had
contact. The worst is that you have brought family into your screeds
here. That's as low as one could get. I wish nothing harmful to
anyone, but wouldn't waste a minute of pity if it befalls you.

[MNMikeW]

bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:43:38 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:19:43 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>> crap:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That will be ignored by the myopes here. As for their consistent
>>>>> bitch about ACA policies being higher to those whose policies were
>>>>> cancelled, insurance goes up for almost everyone in the industry
>>>>> anyway, and the ACA policies are better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine rose 25% this year.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're lying. You're too old to work and your ugly wife is a
>>>> nurse, (or so you say.) You probably don't pay jack for health
>>>> insurance. And you're so bad in math you couldn't calculate 25%. You
>>>> couldn't put your fingers and toes in the right positions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>>> Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>>> your ability to lie you'd be famous.
>>
>> I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
>> talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
>> to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
>> calculate 25% of that.
>>
>> BTW, Obamacare was supposed to save everyone money. I hope you enjoy
>> your savings while eating Mac and Cheese tonight.
>
> You continue to be the most despicable person with whom I've ever had
> contact.

There is a solution to that.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:20:34 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>

>>> That will be ignored by the myopes here. As for their consistent
>>> bitch about ACA policies being higher to those whose policies were
>>> cancelled, insurance goes up for almost everyone in the industry
>>> anyway, and the ACA policies are better.
>>>
>>> Mine rose 25% this year.
>>>
>>So the "the average family will save $2500 a year" was BS.
>
>I couldn't say. We're not the average family to begin with and you

That's for sure. You are much below average.

>can't compare a Medicare plan to family policies.

Sure you can.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>>> Mine rose 25% this year.
>>>>
>>>>I think you're lying. You're too old to work and your ugly wife is a
>>>>nurse, (or so you say.) You probably don't pay jack for health
>>>>insurance. And you're so bad in math you couldn't calculate 25%. You
>>>>couldn't put your fingers and toes in the right positions.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>>>Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>>>your ability to lie you'd be famous.
>>
>>I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
>>talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
>>to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
>>calculate 25% of that.

Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.

>>BTW, Obamacare was supposed to save everyone money. I hope you enjoy
>>your savings while eating Mac and Cheese tonight.
>
>You continue to be the most despicable person with whom I've ever had
>contact. The worst is that you have brought family into your screeds
>here. That's as low as one could get. I wish nothing harmful to
>anyone, but wouldn't waste a minute of pity if it befalls you.

Nothing can harm me. I'm a Superhero.

[Dene]

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:28:10 PM UTC-7, MNMikeW wrote:
> John B. wrote:
>
> > On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >> Anybody signing up?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I didn't think so.
>
> >>
>
> > 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
> >
>
>
>
> Is that the Obamacare definition of signing up? As in, having a plan in
>
> the shopping cart?
>
>
>
> How many have paid?
>
>
>
> How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
>
> Obamacare.

Those are relevant questions which deserve straight answers.

-Greg

[Dene]

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:06:28 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:28:10 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>
> > John B. wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >> Anybody signing up?
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >> I didn't think so.
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > > 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Is that the Obamacare definition of signing up? As in, having a plan in
>
> >
>
> > the shopping cart?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > How many have paid?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
>
> >
>
> > Obamacare.
>
>
>

> You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
>
> find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
>
> has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
>
> something else to rail against.

And you are desperate to defend a president who bold-faced lied to the American people on several occasions.

-Greg

[Dene]

Uh...HH. There are two newly formed Co-Ops in Oregon and one in Washington. None are competitive in rates and benefits. Few people have chosen them. Their business model is flawed. They hire insurance companies to process claims and in essence, they are just an administrative middle man.

They are subsiding on government loans through ACA and when they go belly up, they will be the next Solyndra.

I know of one Oregonian reporter who is on to the story, licking his chops when the sheet hits the fan.

-Greg

[MNMikeW]

We will probably never see any real numbers from this lying outfit.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA658.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/

[Dene]

Yes and No...a lot of lower income families saved that much, via subsidies. Middle class got hosed...as usual.

-Greg

[Dene]

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:38:23 AM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
> In article <5rumj917s21t6dcro...@4ax.com>,
>
> bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> >
>

> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:49:44 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:44:20 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote this
>
> > >crap:

>
> > >
>
> > >>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
> > >>
>

> > >>Signed up for what? Medicaid? Medicare? How many have actually purchased
>
> > >>health care insurance with their own money? How many have been
>
> > >>subsidized and how much of their health care insurance has been
>
> > >>subsidized. How many are going to have credit card accounts opened in
>
> > >>their name by their "Navigators?"
>
> > >
>
> > >The same navigators who have criminal records?

>
> >
>
> > Ha! Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber have a dialogue.
>
>
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-
>
> third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/
>
>
>
> At best abut 2,000,000 million of the "uninsured" have purchased
>
> insurance via the exchanges.

And I suspect the majority of them were Medicaid enrollments.

-Greg

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:19:07 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:

>>>>Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>>>>Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>>>>your ability to lie you'd be famous.
>>>
>>>I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
>>>talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
>>>to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
>>>calculate 25% of that.


>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.

Concert middle C? Piano middle C?, trumpet middle C? You're an idiot
to think I'd fall for that. Except you didn't know the difference.

Screw off amateur.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

Dene wrote:
>
> Uh...HH. There are two newly formed Co-Ops
> in Oregon and one in Washington.

The news I heard was interviewing someone in
Montana, who themselves referred to Maine.

Quickly Googling, I'd expect that it was this one:

www.mhc.coop

> None are competitive in rates and benefits.

Just repeating what the NPR news report claimed;
I've not tried to independently research/verify.

> Few peopel have chosen them.

As per:
<http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20140226/NEWS/302269953>

...it would seem not. However, that's a National aggregate,
whereas the report I heard was reporting on regional, so
that it could be cherrypicked isn't really surprising, nor
that one could be expected to find variance, too.

And as per:
<http://www.pressherald.com/news/New_co-op_draws_most_health_care_enrollments_.html>

...it does look like at least the large percentage
claimfor Maine does check out.

> I know of one Oregonian reporter who is on
> to the story, licking his chops when the sheet
> hits the fan.

Well, time will certainly tell if it is a bad business model or not.


-hh

[John B.]

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:19:04 PM UTC-4, Moderate wrote:
> "John B." <john...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>
> > On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:28:10 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>

> >> How many have paid?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
>
> >>
>
> >> Obamacare.
>
> >
>

> > You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
>
> > find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
>
> > has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
>
> > something else to rail against.
>
>
>

> The Whitehouse knows. Why aren't they saying? If it were good
>
> news it would be right out there.

They are saying.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/04/01/president-obama-7-million-americans

[John B.]

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:52:23 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
>
> <john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>
>
>
> >On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:28:10 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>

> >> John B. wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> > On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >> Anybody signing up?
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> I didn't think so.
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>

> >> > 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>

> >> Is that the Obamacare definition of signing up? As in, having a plan in
>
> >>
>
> >> the shopping cart?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>

> >> How many have paid?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> How many were previously uninsured? You know, the whole reason for
>
> >>
>
> >> Obamacare.
>
> >
>
> >You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
>
> >find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
>
> >has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
>
> >something else to rail against.
>
>
>

> Don't you even realize that it's already failed? October 1st was the
>
> sign up day.
>
>
Really? Tell that to the 7 million people who have signed up.

[John B.]

Right, and they haven't released his college transcripts, either!

[John B.]

> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > You are just desperate for this thing fail, aren't you? When you
>
> >
>
> > find that most or all have paid and were previously uninsured (one
>
> >
>
> > has to be to qualify), you'll wrack your brains to find
>
> >
>
> > something else to rail against.
>
>
>
> And you are desperate to defend a president who bold-faced lied to the American people on several occasions.
>
>
>
> -Greg

No, I'm not. I want the ACA to work. Mike, et al, want it to fail.

[MNMikeW]

Keeping lapping up that propaganda John.

[MNMikeW]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA658.html

[MNMikeW]

Want it to fail? No. We want the truth about it. You on the other hand
take whatever this administration says as gospel.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:08:39 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this

crap:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:19:07 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>>crap:
>
>>>>>Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>>>>>Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>>>>>your ability to lie you'd be famous.
>>>>
>>>>I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
>>>>talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
>>>>to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
>>>>calculate 25% of that.
>
>
>>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.
>
>Concert middle C? Piano middle C?, trumpet middle C?

They're all the same frequency, dumbass.

> You're an idiot
>to think I'd fall for that. Except you didn't know the difference.

I sure do.

>Screw off amateur.

You can't handle the answer.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>
>>

>> And you are desperate to defend a president who bold-faced
> lied to the American people on several occasions.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Greg
>
>No, I'm not. I want the ACA to work. Mike, et al, want it to fail.

Everybody wants to help people, at a decent cost. But it ain't
happening.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 10:43:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>> Don't you even realize that it's already failed? October 1st was the
>>
>> sign up day.
>>
>>
>Really? Tell that to the 7 million people who have signed up.

Now subtract the 6 million who were kicked off their health care, and
subtract the 4 million who were eligible for Medicaid and you have a
net loss of 3 million.


This administration acts like rodeo clowns.
They run out and distract the audience
while behind the gate another team is setting
up the next act.

[uberl...@gmail.com]

On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:45:01 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> Anybody signing up?
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't think so.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> This signature is now the ultimate
>
> power in the universe

All you dopes will love Obamacare and will be glad the jackasses that don't want it (only because they have a problem with a black president....let's face facts here little fellows) never had a chance to repeal it. Then again, if ONLY the repugs could have come up with a plan, any plan, any idea, any inkling of a notion of how to do this better.......well, of course they didn't because that would go against helping ALL the people instead of just their rich friends.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:50:39 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:08:39 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:19:07 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this

>>>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>>>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.

If you're speaking middle C on the piano the closest note to that
frequency would be low G.

ESAD

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:31:42 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>
>>>>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>>>>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.
>
>If you're speaking middle C on the piano the closest note to that
>frequency would be low G.

I knew you didn't know shit about music. If you take C and cut the
frequency in half you still get C, just one octave lower. Then if you
cut it in half again, you go one octave lower. The correct answer is
still C, just two octaves below middle C. It was an easy question and
you fucked up. You're a dumbass and you don't know shit about music
and your ugly wife dresses you funny.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

I love it. You bit. If you had a brain you'd have immediately known
that the note I was describing was G.
What I sent was the hertz for G, and yes 25% of 440 is C. So is 50%
or 200%.

You're a tool.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:10:27 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>>>>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>>>>>>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.
>>>
>>>If you're speaking middle C on the piano the closest note to that
>>>frequency would be low G.
>>
>>I knew you didn't know shit about music. If you take C and cut the
>>frequency in half you still get C, just one octave lower. Then if you
>>cut it in half again, you go one octave lower. The correct answer is
>>still C, just two octaves below middle C. It was an easy question and
>>you fucked up. You're a dumbass and you don't know shit about music
>>and your ugly wife dresses you funny.
>
>I love it. You bit. If you had a brain you'd have immediately known
>that the note I was describing was G.
>What I sent was the hertz for G, and yes 25% of 440 is C. So is 50%
>or 200%.
>
>You're a tool.

Are you drunk? You never sent the frequency for G. And 440 hz is A.
You have no concept of music and absolutely no music ability.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

I said that the note was G. If you had a brain you'd have immediately
come back with the proper frequency for G is 196 hertz, but you don't
know that. Your question was one for a six year old piano student,
which is about your level. If I wanted to play your game I could ask
you things about music that would be impossible for you to answer.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:33:55 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this

crap:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:25:30 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:10:27 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>>crap:
>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>>>>>>>>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're speaking middle C on the piano the closest note to that
>>>>>frequency would be low G.
>>>>
>>>>I knew you didn't know shit about music. If you take C and cut the
>>>>frequency in half you still get C, just one octave lower. Then if you
>>>>cut it in half again, you go one octave lower. The correct answer is
>>>>still C, just two octaves below middle C. It was an easy question and
>>>>you fucked up. You're a dumbass and you don't know shit about music
>>>>and your ugly wife dresses you funny.
>>>
>>>I love it. You bit. If you had a brain you'd have immediately known
>>>that the note I was describing was G.
>>>What I sent was the hertz for G, and yes 25% of 440 is C. So is 50%
>>>or 200%.
>>>
>>>You're a tool.
>>
>>Are you drunk? You never sent the frequency for G. And 440 hz is A.
>>You have no concept of music and absolutely no music ability.
>
>I said that the note was G.

You did, but you never gave the frequency. And you were wrong. 25%
of any frequency is just two octaves lower. And you said G was 440
hz. Everybody knows that A is 440 hz.

> If you had a brain you'd have immediately
>come back with the proper frequency for G is 196 hertz, but you don't
>know that. Your question was one for a six year old piano student,

Which you fucked up. You are not even as good as a six year old piano
student.

>which is about your level. If I wanted to play your game I could ask
>you things about music that would be impossible for you to answer.

No you couldn't.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Another day of making a fool of yourself.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:08:21 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote:

>
>Haven't you ever worked for a company that was self insured but, they
>used an insurance company to process the paper work? Several companies I
>worked for were self insured and one that my wife worked for was self
>insured.
>
Several companies? Weren't you the jackass that said that John B.
couldn't keep a job. LOL. Two faced asshole Bert.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:14:52 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote:

>In article <dd54ab4e-a165-49b6...@googlegroups.com>,
>gds...@aol.com says...
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:38:23 AM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
>> > In article <5rumj917s21t6dcro...@4ax.com>,
>> >
>> > bkn...@conramp.net says...
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:49:44 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > >On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:44:20 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote this
>> >
>> > > >crap:

>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > >>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>> >
>> > > >>
>> >

>> > > >>Signed up for what? Medicaid? Medicare? How many have actually purchased
>> >
>> > > >>health care insurance with their own money? How many have been
>> >
>> > > >>subsidized and how much of their health care insurance has been
>> >
>> > > >>subsidized. How many are going to have credit card accounts opened in
>> >
>> > > >>their name by their "Navigators?"
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > >The same navigators who have criminal records?
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Ha! Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber have a dialogue.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-
>> >
>> > third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At best abut 2,000,000 million of the "uninsured" have purchased
>> >
>> > insurance via the exchanges.
>>
>> And I suspect the majority of them were Medicaid enrollments.
>>
>> -Greg
>
>I thought you were done with me and you weren't going to respond to my
>posts any more?

You know better than that. I've continued to point out your total
lack of common sense almost daily. More of your BS.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:01:31 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>>Are you drunk? You never sent the frequency for G. And 440 hz is A.
>>>>You have no concept of music and absolutely no music ability.
>>>
>>>I said that the note was G.
>>
>>You did, but you never gave the frequency. And you were wrong. 25%
>>of any frequency is just two octaves lower. And you said G was 440
>>hz. Everybody knows that A is 440 hz.
>>
>>> If you had a brain you'd have immediately
>>>come back with the proper frequency for G is 196 hertz, but you don't
>>>know that. Your question was one for a six year old piano student,
>>
>>Which you fucked up. You are not even as good as a six year old piano
>>student.
>>
>>>which is about your level. If I wanted to play your game I could ask
>>>you things about music that would be impossible for you to answer.
>>
>>No you couldn't.
>>
>
>Another day of making a fool of yourself.

No. You fucked up again. You don't know what middle C is and you
can't find a octave with your hands on your dick.

If you weren't so pathetic I'd be laughing my ass off.

[Dene]

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:08:21 PM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
> In article <a7e4910d-e9f8-47af...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> gds...@aol.com says...
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:25:58 AM UTC-7, recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:
>
> > > BAR wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > Carbon says...
>
> > >
>
> > > > > John B. wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > MNMikeW wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >> [list of questions]

>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > You are just desperate for this thing fail,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > aren't you? When you find that most or all
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > have paid and were previously uninsured
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > (one has to be to qualify), you'll wrack
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > your brains to find something else to rail
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > against.
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>

> > > > > Behold the power of propaganda. If you spend
>
> > >
>
> > > > > enough money telling people dogshit is awesome,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > they will insist it is so until their dying breath.
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > These fools have no clue what other systems are like
>
> > >
>
> > > > > and therefore no idea how terrible this system is in comparison.
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > They've been telling us Obamacare is the best thing
>
> > >
>
> > > > since sliced bread for 4 years now and when push came
>
> > >
>
> > > > to shove it was revealed as the shit sandwich that it is.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > All quite possible, but by the same token, the more time
>
> > >
>
> > > that passes, the more opportunities exist for the truth
>
> > >
>
> > > to come out, despite the efforts of huge dollars being
>
> > >
>
> > > spent trying to sway public opinion to ignore the truth.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Case in point, two things that I've happened to have
>
> > >
>
> > > heard in the news within the past week:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > a) The premiums in the pre-ACA 'Status Quo' healthcare
>
> > >
>
> > > industry are 25% higher than they should be, due to
>
> > >
>
> > > marketplace inefficiencies.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > b) There's been over 20 new healthcare companies created
>
> > >
>
> > > as a result of ACA, with a large portion of them being
>
> > >
>
> > > Co-Ops ... which by basic organizational structure and
>
> > >
>
> > > function are NONPROFITS. While it is certainly years too
>
> > >
>
> > > early to determine if they will be successful, the insurance
>
> > >
>
> > > rates of the Co-Ops are ~8% lower than their for-profit
>
> > >
>
> > > competitors.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > What I personally conclude out of the above is the ongoing
>
> > >
>
> > > myth of how private industry is always more "efficient" in
>
> > >
>
> > > the marketplace - - and the reason why is because it has also
>
> > >
>
> > > been said that a corporation's primary objective is always to
>
> > >
>
> > > maximize profits for its shareholders.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Absent said profit incentive, the Co-Ops are apparently
>
> > >
>
> > > already making a difference in providing better value,
>
> > >
>
> > > with new customer signups in some markets favoring Co-Ops
>
> > >
>
> > > over For-Profits by ratios as high as 4:1 (Maine) - - and what
>
> > >
>
> > > is also quite trasparently obvious is that the deep pockets
>
> > >
>
> > > of the established big corporations will (quite correctly!)
>
> > >
>
> > > see this as a fundimental threat to their business models'
>
> > >
>
> > > profits and will try to attack it in propoganda to try to
>
> > >
>
> > > influence the tilt on the playing field so as to give them
>
> > >
>
> > > a competitive edge. Personally, I fully expect that the
>
> > >
>
> > > political donations from these industries will be significantly
>
> > >
>
> > > increased in 2014, because that's unfortunately how bribes
>
> > >
>
> > > ...oh, sorry: "Campaign Contributions"... work in American
>
> > >
>
> > > politics today.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > -hh
>
> >
>
> > Uh...HH. There are two newly formed Co-Ops in Oregon and one in Washington. None are competitive in rates and benefits. Few people have chosen them. Their business model is flawed. They hire insurance companies to process claims and in essence, they are just an administrative middle man.
>
> >
>
> > They are subsiding on government loans through ACA and when they go belly up, they will be the next Solyndra.
>
> >
>
> > I know of one Oregonian reporter who is on to the story, licking his chops when the sheet hits the fan.
>
> >
>
> > -Greg

>
>
>
> Haven't you ever worked for a company that was self insured but, they
>
> used an insurance company to process the paper work? Several companies I
>
> worked for were self insured and one that my wife worked for was self
>
> insured.

Yes...but that is not a Co-Op is about. Apples and Oranges.

-Greg

[Dene]

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:14:52 PM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
> In article <dd54ab4e-a165-49b6...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> gds...@aol.com says...
>
> >
>

> > On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:38:23 AM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
>
> > > In article <5rumj917s21t6dcro...@4ax.com>,
>
> > >
>
> > > bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:49:44 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > >On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:44:20 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.too> wrote this
>
> > >
>
> > > > >crap:
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>> 7 million people have signed up. You really should get out more.
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>Signed up for what? Medicaid? Medicare? How many have actually purchased
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>health care insurance with their own money? How many have been
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>subsidized and how much of their health care insurance has been
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>subsidized. How many are going to have credit card accounts opened in
>
> > >
>
> > > > >>their name by their "Navigators?"
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > >The same navigators who have criminal records?
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > Ha! Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber have a dialogue.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-
>
> > >
>
> > > third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > At best abut 2,000,000 million of the "uninsured" have purchased
>
> > >
>
> > > insurance via the exchanges.
>
> >
>
> > And I suspect the majority of them were Medicaid enrollments.
>
> >
>
> > -Greg
>
>
>
> I thought you were done with me and you weren't going to respond to my
>
> posts any more?

I'm done with your stupid, inane questions. If you have something reasonably intelligent to ask or say, I will give the post it's due.

-Greg

[bkn...@conramp.net]

You're still the most disgusting gay I ever knew of.

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:

> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:32:31 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>

>>
>>If you weren't so pathetic I'd be laughing my ass off.
>
> You're still the most disgusting gay I ever knew of.

Such intolerance.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 09:11:47 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Intolerance of low class vermin is due them.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 09:11:47 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>

wrote this crap:

And I'm not even gay. He just has no tolerance for anybody. Most
liberals are like that.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:23:02 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>>>If you weren't so pathetic I'd be laughing my ass off.
>>>
>>> You're still the most disgusting gay I ever knew of.
>>
>>Such intolerance.
>
>Intolerance of low class vermin is due them.

You think of me as low class just because I play banjo and hang out at
a VFW? I'll have you know that our veterans are noble people who
worked hard to provide you with your freedom. I was an officer in the
greatest army in human history. Take that, you abortion-loving dog
fucker.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

LOL Eat shit low life.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:14:10 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

Didn't have time to respond correctly this morning, so....

The above is exactly what shows you to be so simple minded. Thinking
that your owning a banjo could show low class points out your
childishness stupidity, and I'm sure that the members of your VFW are
fine, upstanding and believable people, unlike you are here. You
have to comport yourself there in a manner unlike you do here because
it wouldn't take long for such bragging and BS to get your ass
kicked....and ousted.

You saw no combat, so drop the BS about being a big part of our great
army. You may have been an officer, but no more than a clerk, and you
wouldn't deface an army uniform if you were proud of your rank.
No one believes you about anything because of your plethora of lies.

I think of you as low class because you have proven yourself to be a
liar and a braggart along with a cutesy, effeminate style which you
think is humor. You profess to be an expert at things at which you
are a rank amateur, and are laughed at then fail to realize it.
You've also crossed the line by bringing other's family into your
diatribes. That's very offensive. You've set yourself up for the
ridicule that you've gotten.

So, forget the silliness of your fixation on the banjo and that you
hang out at a VFW. You're simply an egregious blowhard who offers
nothing other than crap here.

[John B.]

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 2:50:39 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:08:39 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>
> crap:
>
>
>

> >On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:19:07 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >
>

> >>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:58:54 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>
> >>crap:
>
> >
>
> >>>>>Your first sentence was wrong. You don't think. I have Aetna
>
> >>>>>Medicare PPO and it went up exactly 25%. If your ESP was as good as
>
> >>>>>your ability to lie you'd be famous.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>I don't have ESP and I don't lie, those aren't part of my Superhero
>
> >>>>talents. But based on your past history I don't think you can count
>
> >>>>to ten unless you removed your mittens. And I'm certain you couldn't
>
> >>>>calculate 25% of that.

>
> >
>
> >
>
> >>Here's a simple test which I'm sure you will fail. Take the frequency
>
> >>of Middle C, then calculate 25% of that and tell me what note that is.
>
> >
>

> >Concert middle C? Piano middle C?, trumpet middle C?
>
>
>
> They're all the same frequency, dumbass.
>
>
>
> > You're an idiot
>
> >to think I'd fall for that. Except you didn't know the difference.
>
>
>
> I sure do.
>
>
>
> >Screw off amateur.
>
>
>
> You can't handle the answer.
>
The answer is completely irrelevant to any serious
musician, which you most assuredly are not.

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 09:11:47 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:
>>
>>>

>>> You're still the most disgusting gay I ever knew of.
>>
>>Such intolerance.
>
> Intolerance of low class vermin is due them.

Them? The gays?
You show intolerance for most people.


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[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:15:13 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>

wrote:

>bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 09:11:47 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nom...@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're still the most disgusting gay I ever knew of.
>>>
>>>Such intolerance.
>>
>> Intolerance of low class vermin is due them.
>
>Them? The gays?

Not at all. Just classless vermin, but keep up your usual BS of
ignorance.

>You show intolerance for most people.

Mostly for assholes like you.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:56:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>

>>You think of me as low class just because I play banjo and hang out at
>>a VFW? I'll have you know that our veterans are noble people who
>>worked hard to provide you with your freedom. I was an officer in the
>>greatest army in human history. Take that, you abortion-loving dog
>>fucker.
>
>LOL Eat shit low life.

Says the abortion-loving, veteran hating, dog fucker. We know how
much you liberals love tolerance.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:37:39 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:56:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>>
>>>You think of me as low class just because I play banjo and hang out at
>>>a VFW? I'll have you know that our veterans are noble people who
>>>worked hard to provide you with your freedom. I was an officer in the
>>>greatest army in human history. Take that, you abortion-loving dog
>>>fucker.
>>
>>LOL Eat shit low life.
>
>Says the abortion-loving, veteran hating, dog fucker. We know how
>much you liberals love tolerance.

More of the basis of your existence....lies.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:13:42 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>You think of me as low class just because I play banjo and hang out at
>>a VFW? I'll have you know that our veterans are noble people who
>>worked hard to provide you with your freedom. I was an officer in the
>>greatest army in human history. Take that, you abortion-loving dog
>>fucker.
>
>Didn't have time to respond correctly this morning, so....
>
>The above is exactly what shows you to be so simple minded.

Really? You couldn't calculate 25% of Middle C.

> Thinking

Not likely.

>that your owning a banjo could show low class points out your
>childishness stupidity, and I'm sure that the members of your VFW are
>fine, upstanding and believable people, unlike you are here. You
>have to comport yourself there in a manner unlike you do here because
>it wouldn't take long for such bragging and BS to get your ass
>kicked....and ousted.

Nope. Doesn't happen.

>You saw no combat, so drop the BS about being a big part of our great
>army. You may have been an officer, but no more than a clerk,

Nope. Officers are not clerks. You wouldn't know.

> and you
>wouldn't deface an army uniform if you were proud of your rank.
>No one believes you about anything because of your plethora of lies.

There are no lies. Ask anybody.

>I think of you as low class because you have proven yourself to be a
>liar and a braggart along with a cutesy, effeminate style which you
>think is humor. You profess to be an expert at things at which you
>are a rank amateur, and are laughed at then fail to realize it.

I have trophies to prove it. I have my own music room and my own
Superhero room. Everybody has seen the pics.

>You've also crossed the line by bringing other's family into your
>diatribes. That's very offensive. You've set yourself up for the
>ridicule that you've gotten.

Your ugly abortion loving wife doesn't matter to me and I don't care
if you sleep with your dogs. Your love of dog fucking is of no
interest to me.

>So, forget the silliness of your fixation on the banjo and that you
>hang out at a VFW. You're simply an egregious blowhard who offers
>nothing other than crap here.

My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
love of dog fucking.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Thanks for the proof of your idiocy.

[John B.]

You are one sick bastard, you know that? If you were to see
a psychiatrist, he would probably diagnose you with megalomania.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thursday, 3 Apr 2014 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B."

<john...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 3, 2014 4:52:49 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:

<clip>

>> >You've also crossed the line by bringing other's family into your
>>
>> >diatribes. That's very offensive. You've set yourself up for the
>>
>> >ridicule that you've gotten.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your ugly abortion loving wife doesn't matter to me and I don't care
>> if you sleep with your dogs. Your love of dog fucking is of no
>> interest to me.

>> >So, forget the silliness of your fixation on the banjo and that you
>> >hang out at a VFW. You're simply an egregious blowhard who offers
>> >nothing other than crap here.
>>
>> My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
>> love of dog fucking.
>>
>You are one sick bastard, you know that? If you were to see
>a psychiatrist, he would probably diagnose you with megalomania.

It's more than that. He has no class. The verbal attacks at my wife
are lies, and uncouth to begin with. Not only my wife but other's.
Here's an example with MNMike:
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On Wed, 12 Mar 12 2014 10:23 Hor...@net.net wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:39:55 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote
this crap:
Horvath wrote:
>>>> It doesn't work that way. Ask your ugly wife.

>>> Your ignorance is as apparent as your sexual preference.
>>
>> I'm not the one who looks at my ugly wife and says, "Squeal like a
>> pig."
>
>You wish you had an ugly wife.

No. Hookers are cheaper. Ask you ugly wife how much she charges.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Classy, right?

[John B.]

Sick is what it is.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:01:49 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

>>My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
>>love of dog fucking.
>>
>
>Thanks for the proof of your idiocy.

You're welcome, dog fucker.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>>
>>
>>
>> My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
>>
>> love of dog fucking.
>>
>You are one sick bastard, you know that? If you were to see
>a psychiatrist, he would probably diagnose you with megalomania.

One of my best friends is a psychiatrist. I sail on his yacht at the
yacht club. He also plays the banjo. He would think you are an
asshole.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 18:53:10 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
><john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
>>>
>>> love of dog fucking.
>>>
>>You are one sick bastard, you know that? If you were to see
>>a psychiatrist, he would probably diagnose you with megalomania.
>
>One of my best friends is a psychiatrist. I sail on his yacht at the
>yacht club. He also plays the banjo. He would think you are an
>asshole.
>

Liar.

[John B.]

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 6:53:10 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
>
> <john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> My knowledge of the military and science and music is way above your
>
> >>
>
> >> love of dog fucking.
>
> >>
>
> >You are one sick bastard, you know that? If you were to see
>
> >a psychiatrist, he would probably diagnose you with megalomania.
>
>
>
> One of my best friends is a psychiatrist. I sail on his yacht at the
>
> yacht club. He also plays the banjo. He would think you are an
>
> asshole.
>

I rest my case.