Anyone familiar with Jim McLellan?
Harold Watson
I've been playing golf for 7 years and I have spent tons of money since then
on everything from books to lessons to videos to magazines to anything else
you can think of. Nothing has really helped me that much. In fact,
occasionally I actually seem to get worse rather than better.
I recently ran across a website I've never seen before -- www.mcgolf.com.
The site features golf pro Jim McLellan and his golf instruction videos. I
read the testimonial pages and it sounds amazing--but honestly are those for
real? I want to hear from some people here who may have taken lessons from
McLellan or purchased his videos. Are they worth it?
I'm probably going to make my decision to purchase based on what I hear
here. Hope to hear from everyone soon.
Thanks
--Harold Watson
ErictheHammer
Save your money please!!!
I am embarrassed to say, I purchased this tape several years back. There is
nothing in that tape to yield the results he promises. I honestly don't
remember all the specifics, but he emphaizies high hands and a very still
head. He talked about just taking the club up and down and letting the
clubhead do all the work. The tape had a lot of filler in it, and if I
recall, he even spends some time singing. I think McLellan refers to
himself as the "anti-Pro" or something like that.
I have purchased probably 15 tapes over the last few years. They all
promise these amazing results. There is one guy that promises a perfect
swing in 5 minutes, another guy promises a 30% decrease in your handicap and
a 30% increase in your distance in 30 days, and there is another that
promises scratch golf just by learning his "secret, magical move". I am
sad to say that there are no "secret, magical moves". Just a lot of hard
work, patience, and letting other golfers or professionals mentor you will
be the key to better play.
Good luck in your search for better play. I doubt Mr. McLellan holds the
holy grail to better play, even though the testimonials may say the contrary
Eric "the Hammer"
Thomas Young
absolute wonders! I did just what the videos said, and whereas I used to
slice, now my shots are straight as an arrow. Occasionally I still
encounter problems such as topping the ball, but thanks to McLellan's
instruction I know exactly why it happened and exactly how to correct it.
My friends are amazed at my improvement.
I highly recommend these videos, they are the best thing that has ever
happened to my golf game.
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ErictheHammer
"Thomas Young" <tyo...@mce.org> wrote in message
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> On the contrary, I bought the tapes last summer and they have worked
> absolute wonders! I did just what the videos said, and whereas I used to
> slice, now my shots are straight as an arrow. Occasionally I still
> encounter problems such as topping the ball, but thanks to McLellan's
> instruction I know exactly why it happened and exactly how to correct it.
> My friends are amazed at my improvement.
>
> I highly recommend these videos, they are the best thing that has ever
> happened to my golf game.
>
>
Hey Thomas,
If you are telling the truth here, I am glad the video's worked for you.
Hope you continue to enjoy the current success you are experiencing!!
But I remain firmly convinced that if you have a major problem with your
swing, you should see a pro or someone who has a good "eye" to help you
identify the problem and come up with a long term fix. I am on every
"sucker" list out there. At least several times a month, I get a mailing
from someone with a new "swing" or "miracle club". They now all make it to
the trash quite promptly!! I wish I had listened to those a few years back
that warned me about these schemes. And IMHO, McLellan is just another
"scheme" out there, with a lot of inflated promises.
Eric "the Hammer"
five...@webtv.net
- you are just adding insult to injury by continuing on in the same
vein.
If you'll spend some of that money/time with a teaching pro, one on one,
or even in a class - you'll probably benefit more.
Your previous attempts at learning to play golf - has evidently put you
in the ball park, but not on base.:--)
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David Laville
<Ericth...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>Harold,
>
>Save your money please!!!
>
>I am embarrassed to say, I purchased this tape several years back. There is
>nothing in that tape to yield the results he promises. I honestly don't
>remember all the specifics, but he emphaizies high hands and a very still
>head. He talked about just taking the club up and down and letting the
>clubhead do all the work. The tape had a lot of filler in it, and if I
>recall, he even spends some time singing. I think McLellan refers to
>himself as the "anti-Pro" or something like that.
I thought the guys name sounded familiar. He used to hang out in a
golf forum at Voy.com telling everyone how much bigger his muscles
were and slamming George Hibbard. From what I understood his video
was of him swinging a club and you watched it and somehow it
subconsciously made you better. So I guess with this same logic we can
teach people to swim by showing them videos of people swimming.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
Peter Strauss
David, just imagine what we can teach folks by showing them porn!
Wow!
Peter
pfs126 at earthlink dot net
David Laville
wrote:
>>I thought the guys name sounded familiar. He used to hang out in a
>>golf forum at Voy.com telling everyone how much bigger his muscles
>>were and slamming George Hibbard. From what I understood his video
>>was of him swinging a club and you watched it and somehow it
>>subconsciously made you better. So I guess with this same logic we can
>>teach people to swim by showing them videos of people swimming.
>>
>David, just imagine what we can teach folks by showing them porn!
Where do you think I learned?
Bill The Newbie
> Where do you think I learned?
>
You beat me to it, David. Nice one.
-b
Puttster
get to his points, as Eric mentioned, which are high hands on the backswing
and keep your head still. On tape 2 Jim gets into more details, giving you
some swing thoughts and info on the short game. He does have a nice swing
but how to achieve that is just as elusive when you are done as before you
begin. I paid at least $50 for it but $20 would be more fair primarily
because there is nothing much really new in there.
Puttster
Colleyville Alan
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I believe that someone posted here (perhaps it was elsewhere), that he
simply tells you to keep your hands as high as possible. I would imagine
that for some people that would be "the answer" but for most people a solid
swing requires more than just a simple tip. I always take with a pound of
salt any instructor who spends time trashing the teaching profession and
then tells you that he has a secret: "There are only 3 key points in the
golf swing. If they are correct, everything else will happen automatically.
You will not find the key in golf books, lessons, or other videos. We have
never seen the key anywhere, except in our video."
BTW, is it just me or does anybody else fail to see a golf ball anywhere in
his demonstration golf swing?
Bob Okerman
golf videos was by far the best investment I've ever made for my golf game.
I was really curious if the two videos would be of any help. It turns out
they were not only helpful but they were exactly what I needed. I have
improved my slice, corrected my grip, and follow through.
To Colleyville Alan-If you've seen the tapes, I don't know how you could
have missed numerous times where McLellan hits the golf ball.
Additionally-all he has to say, most certainly is not just "keep your hands
as high as possible."
He has a simplistic approach to teaching, however, that is how it should be.
All of these things you hear about pivot this, twist here, turn there, shift
weight this and elbow that is ridiculous. The golf swing takes place in
less than 3 seconds. It is absolutely humanly impossible to actually think
about and consciously control all of those factors in that time-and *trying*
to do so is going to do nothing more than confuse things and frustrate you.
To Harold Watson-it is definitely my advice that you check these out. You
won't be sorry.
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Colleyville Alan
"Bob Okerman" <boke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I don't know what a lot of you are talking about. Purchasing Jim
McLellan's
> golf videos was by far the best investment I've ever made for my golf
game.
I am not doubting your success with them. I *am* skeptical of his "only I
have the secret" approach to teaching.
> I was really curious if the two videos would be of any help. It turns out
> they were not only helpful but they were exactly what I needed. I have
> improved my slice, corrected my grip, and follow through.
>
> To Colleyville Alan-If you've seen the tapes, I don't know how you could
> have missed numerous times where McLellan hits the golf ball.
I wrote: "I believe that someone posted here (perhaps it was elsewhere),
that he simply tells you to keep your hands as high as possible." I thought
that was clear that I had not seen the tapes but was passing on what someone
else had said about them. I also opined that McLellan, like many others,
claims there is a simple way to do things and that only he has the secret.
I have seen dozens of claims that sound very much like his claims sound and
I am skeptical of them. See scigolf (esp. Jack Kuykendall
http://www.scigolf.com/) and the OHP gurus
(http://www.ohpgolf.com/darrell_klassen.htm and
http://www.ohpgolf.com/bobby_schaeffer.htm) for a giggle.
Also, I pointed out on his website that McLellan demonstrates "the perfect
swing" but it appears to be a swing without a ball getting in the way. I
have no doubt that on the video he hits a ball, but on the website clip he
does not.
cja
> I have purchased probably 15 tapes over the last few years. They all
> promise these amazing results. There is one guy that promises a perfect
> swing in 5 minutes ...
>
Er, shouldn't that be Perfect Imppp... sorry, I just can't type it.
It's nice for us that YKW has moved on to other fora. It sounds to me
as if these kinds of videos may be of some help to people with serious
swing problems. Maybe it can be a start on the road to improvement
for them, or maybe it'll start them down a bad path. Caveat emptor.
- cja
glfnaz
out
> > they were not only helpful but they were exactly what I needed. I have
> > improved my slice, > >
Thats a good thing?!?
David Laville
<boke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I don't know what a lot of you are talking about. Purchasing Jim McLellan's
>golf videos was by far the best investment I've ever made for my golf game.
>I was really curious if the two videos would be of any help. It turns out
>they were not only helpful but they were exactly what I needed. I have
>improved my slice, corrected my grip, and follow through.
>
>To Colleyville Alan-If you've seen the tapes, I don't know how you could
>have missed numerous times where McLellan hits the golf ball.
>Additionally-all he has to say, most certainly is not just "keep your hands
>as high as possible."
>
>He has a simplistic approach to teaching, however, that is how it should be.
>All of these things you hear about pivot this, twist here, turn there, shift
>weight this and elbow that is ridiculous. The golf swing takes place in
>less than 3 seconds. It is absolutely humanly impossible to actually think
>about and consciously control all of those factors in that time-and *trying*
>to do so is going to do nothing more than confuse things and frustrate you.
>
>To Harold Watson-it is definitely my advice that you check these out. You
>won't be sorry.
Is it a coincidence that both you and Harold have web Email addresses,
use the same news server and news readers?
Miss Anne Thrope
your post, I've now added his name to my list of golfing morons. And
don't worry..........I put you on it, too.
Mel
swing' video clip? Is having a ball at the bottom of a golf swing
what makes a swing good?
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Bobby Knight
>Am I missing something? So what if a golf ball isn't in 'the perfect
>swing' video clip? Is having a ball at the bottom of a golf swing
>what makes a swing good?
Absolutely not! I play a lot of rounds without a golf ball. That
way, I never miss a shot. Guys hate to bet me at those times though.
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Howard Brazee
On 25-Sep-2003, mel...@yahoo.com (Mel) wrote:
> Am I missing something? So what if a golf ball isn't in 'the perfect
> swing' video clip? Is having a ball at the bottom of a golf swing
> what makes a swing good?
Not necessarily.
Howard Brazee
On 25-Sep-2003, Bobby Knight <bkn...@comramp.net> wrote:
> Absolutely not! I play a lot of rounds without a golf ball. That
> way, I never miss a shot. Guys hate to bet me at those times though.
Guys and Dolls had a tough guy who demanded to bet with the protagonist using
his dice where he sanded off the pips for luck.
It all depends on who determines whether your putt stayed in-bounds.
Colleyville Alan
"Mel" <mel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Am I missing something?
Yes
