Which is harder - tennis or golf?
Stapler
all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
a mental/physical standpoint.
Joubert
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH. Only someone who plays golf would say that
Miss Anne Thrope
in all of sport."
Yeah, if by "some" you mean people who have never ever seen anything
except golf, and have nothing to compare it to.
Stapler
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There is a prestige factor the corporate types give to golf champs that they
don't accord to Wimbledon champions.
Bobby Knight
What does that have to do with difficulty of the games?
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Stapler
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>
> What does that have to do with difficulty of the games?
>
*shrugs*
Aran...@selin.com
Tennis.
Dave Lee
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Now there is a tough argument to refute - the rationale is so eloquently
stated :-)
dave
vjg
A friend of mine won't play golf. He tried a few times. He still can't
understand why he can hit a forehand with good placement while on a
dead run (with a ball that's moving at dozens of miles per hour) and
can't manage to hit a golf ball when the blasted thing is just sitting
there.
JohnO
Golf is much harder than tennis. Most people can hit back a tennis
ball. Most people cannot hit a golf ball at all.
Quincy
az
Of course they can. Everybody can putt.
If you are talking about Tee shots, then most people cannot properly
serve in tennis to start the point either. Even pros like Dementieva
have a hard time doing it.
TT
> Discuss!
Yours after watching some Becker highlights?
--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
josephm...@netzero.com
I still can't understand why I can play the clarinet part to Mozart's
Clarinet Concerto but can't manage to play the piano accompaniment in
the reduced score, even though the blasted piano is just sitting there
in our living room and I don't even have to blow into it!
Joe Ramirez
Patrick Kehoe
++ A TRUE Ramirez classic... lol...
P
TT
Yes, that's something everyone can relate to. Fucking snob.
josephm...@netzero.com
> Patrick Kehoe wrote:
> > On Mar 16, 1:32 pm, josephmrami...@netzero.com wrote:
> >> On Mar 16, 1:29 pm, vjg <virgil.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Mar 15, 11:30 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >>>> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> >>>> all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> >>>> a mental/physical standpoint.
> >>> A friend of mine won't play golf. He tried a few times. He still can't
> >>> understand why he can hit a forehand with good placement while on a
> >>> dead run (with a ball that's moving at dozens of miles per hour) and
> >>> can't manage to hit a golf ball when the blasted thing is just sitting
> >>> there.
> >> I still can't understand why I can play the clarinet part to Mozart's
> >> Clarinet Concerto but can't manage to play the piano accompaniment in
> >> the reduced score, even though the blasted piano is just sitting there
> >> in our living room and I don't even have to blow into it!
>
> >> Joe Ramirez
>
> > ++ A TRUE Ramirez classic... lol...
>
> > P
>
> Yes, that's something everyone can relate to. Fucking snob.
Hey TT, remember the other day when I posted a link to The Daily Show
at your request? I take it back.
Joe Ramirez
JohnO
> On Mar 17, 2:06 am, JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 16, 5:30 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > > Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> > > all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> > > a mental/physical standpoint.
>
> > Golf is much harder than tennis. Most people can hit back a tennis
> > ball. Most people cannot hit a golf ball at all.
>
> Of course they can. Everybody can putt.
Oversimplified. Put them on a proper fast green and the average person
will take many attempts before the can get near then in the hole.
>
> If you are talking about Tee shots, then most people cannot properly
> serve in tennis to start the point either. Even pros like Dementieva
> have a hard time doing it.
The basic shot in golf is off the ground. That's harder than off a
tee. The basic shot in tennis is a forehand return. That is way easier
than any full swing golf shot.
Most people can go out and have a tennis rally. Most people cannot go
out and hit a golf ball.
josephm...@netzero.com
> Most people can go out and have a tennis rally.
What's the basis for this opinion? Have you ever taken a tennis
newbie, put him or her on the baseline with a racket, and then hit a
nice, easy groundstroke from the other end of the court? Chances are,
the attempt to "have a rally" will end with an outright whiff on the
very first stroke.
Joe Ramirez
TT
Heheh
greg...@hotmail.com
> Patrick Kehoe wrote:
> > On Mar 16, 1:32 pm, josephmrami...@netzero.com wrote:
> >> On Mar 16, 1:29 pm, vjg <virgil.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Mar 15, 11:30 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >>>> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> >>>> all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> >>>> a mental/physical standpoint.
> >>> A friend of mine won't play golf. He tried a few times. He still can't
> >>> understand why he can hit a forehand with good placement while on a
> >>> dead run (with a ball that's moving at dozens of miles per hour) and
> >>> can't manage to hit a golf ball when the blasted thing is just sitting
> >>> there.
> >> I still can't understand why I can play the clarinet part to Mozart's
> >> Clarinet Concerto but can't manage to play the piano accompaniment in
> >> the reduced score, even though the blasted piano is just sitting there
> >> in our living room and I don't even have to blow into it!
>
> >> Joe Ramirez
>
> > ++ A TRUE Ramirez classic... lol...
>
> > P
>
> Yes, that's something everyone can relate to. Fucking snob.
What's wrong - more of a Beethoven man yourself?
retiredusarmy
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I think tennis is a harder "sport" and golf is a harder skill. I am a 11.1
golfer, up a bit from the summer rounds, boo hoo. Playing golf at my level
was easier than playing tennis in college and in tournaments (thru current
age of mid 50s) I started golf 8 years ago in my mid 40s and only once did
I break 100 the wrong way. Of course, I spent 3 weeks on range and putting
green before I actually played on the course. At my age, tennis is hard
work, the movement required to be competitive is brutal. With golf, the
hardest part is waiting for the slow players in carts who will not let a
single walker play through.
Javier Gonzalez
> On Mar 17, 9:23 am, az <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 2:06 am, JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 16, 5:30 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
>> > > all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
>> > > a mental/physical standpoint.
>>
>> > Golf is much harder than tennis. Most people can hit back a tennis
>> > ball. Most people cannot hit a golf ball at all.
>>
>> Of course they can. Everybody can putt.
>
> Oversimplified. Put them on a proper fast green and the average person
> will take many attempts before the can get near then in the hole.
Put a guy on a proper fast tennis court and he will take many, many attempts
to make a valid serve.
>>
>> If you are talking about Tee shots, then most people cannot properly
>> serve in tennis to start the point either. Even pros like Dementieva
>> have a hard time doing it.
>
> The basic shot in golf is off the ground. That's harder than off a
> tee. The basic shot in tennis is a forehand return. That is way easier
> than any full swing golf shot.
> Most people can go out and have a tennis rally. Most people cannot go
> out and hit a golf ball.
You should note that "hitting a tennis ball with a forehand stance" is not the
same as "executing a proper forehand return", which would be the proper
analogy to "a full swing golf shot". Sure, some guy can hit tennis balls and
get them over the net, some guy can hobble his way through a golf hole to an
infinity-bogey, but both of them will be able to produce a passable(*) version
of their respective games with practice. There's no shortage of golfers to
indicate that it's beyond the reach of the average guy who can afford it and
only the truly gifted can hit a golf ball off the ground.
(*) note that passable isn't pro-level, is just "my club/green fees aren't
completely wasted" good.
Quincy
> Quincy wrote:
> > Discuss!
>
> Yours after watching some Becker highlights?
Raja's after seeing this:
http://www.ocxxxgayblog.com/wp-content/_ksgal5.jpg
ken....@gmail.com
I've played a lot of both.
Technically, golf is more difficult to master. OTOH, tennis requires
more pure athletic ability.
YMMV
Ken
vjg
Ummm... you're supposed to blow into the piano.
- vjg
gray asphalt
Dueling is the hardest sport.
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Professor X
This thread is stupid but I will still add my 2cents.
Golf is easier in the sense that many people can play "high level
shots." For example even a low level player may make a great drive or
an impossible put now and again. Whereas in Tennis you are NOT going
to see any club players hitting 110mph + serves and huge topspin
forehands. This is why in golf you can have amatuers win big events
simply because they blow "on" for that one event.
This could never happen in Tennis.
However, it is harder to be "consistent" in golf, than Tennis I
believe.
Loudon Briggs
It would really be informative to see a response from Ivan Lendl... in
his time, the best tennis player in the world, and after retirement,
an extremely fine golfer. I'm sure he was asked for his opinion on
this subject many times.
--
Loudon R. Briggs lar...@bbz.net Phoenix, AZ
"How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"
(from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
Dave Lee
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snip
> It would really be informative to see a response from Ivan Lendl... in
> his time, the best tennis player in the world, and after retirement,
> an extremely fine golfer. I'm sure he was asked for his opinion on
> this subject many times.
>
> --
>
> Loudon R. Briggs lar...@bbz.net Phoenix, AZ
>
> "How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
> Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
> and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"
>
> (from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
An interesting factoid - there are 3 former #1 in the world tennis players
who played tennis right handed and play golf left handed (and not all of
them played one-handed backhands). They are Ivan Lendl, Jim Courier, and
Andre Agassi. If this is a coincidence, it is a strange one.
An interesting Courier story. Jim is at our club as a guest on rare
occasions - usually playing golf. One day he showed up at the tennis pro
shop to play with someone of his caliber. The teenage gal behind the desk
had no clue, made them buy their own balls, and put them on a center court
between a doubles match between 70 year old ladies and another doubles match
also involving 70 year old ladies.
10 minutes later they came back as 'this isn't working'. Fortunately one of
the club pro's got wind of this and put them on a court where they wouldn't
hurt anybody.
dave
Mortimer
> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> a mental/physical standpoint.
Golf. Tennis may require more pure athletic ability, but in golf
there's a real small margain of error for every swing you take.
ken....@gmail.com
Good point. Lendl is a Grand Slam winner. I think he barely breaks 80.
I wonder if Shark and Chrissie play any tennis together.
Ken
Loudon Briggs
(CLIP)
>>
>> It would really be informative to see a response from Ivan Lendl... in
>> his time, the best tennis player in the world, and after retirement,
>> an extremely fine golfer. I'm sure he was asked for his opinion on
>> this subject many times.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Loudon R. Briggs lar...@bbz.net Phoenix, AZ
>>
>> "How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
>> Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
>> and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"
>>
>> (from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
>
>Good point. Lendl is a Grand Slam winner. I think he barely breaks 80.
>I wonder if Shark and Chrissie play any tennis together.
>
>Ken
Not sure what his handicap is now but, supposedly he carried a very
low one a few years back.
There are several other former tennis greats who carry a better than
average golf handicap... Pete Sampras, Michael Chang, Jim Courier.
Whisper
Yes, tennis is far more forgiving. You can lose a set 0-6 & still win
the match - try winning in golf after playing like a fuckwit for 20
minutes smacking balls into the water or out of bounds.
Whisper
In tennis you can get a lot of help from your opponent if eg he starts
to choke. In golf you get few freebies. Essentially you have to raise
your level as the course won't start making errors/get fatigued.
Javier Gonzalez
But, on the other hand, the course won't repeatedly hit to your weaker wing or
try to exploit your weaknesses.
(apples and oranges FFS)
gpsman
> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> a mental/physical standpoint.
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get,
I'll never be as good as a wall. - Mitch Hedberg
doghater!
> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests in
> all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest test from
> a mental/physical standpoint.
Who gives a fuck! This is a golf forum. MANCO is back under the alias
of STAPLER.
Mortimer
> Yes, tennis is far more forgiving. You can lose a set 0-6 & still win
> the match - try winning in golf after playing like a fuckwit for 20
> minutes smacking balls into the water or out of bounds.
Yes, indeed. One water hazard or one ball hit way out of bounds can
ultimately cost you the tournament victory as proven many times in the
PGA, or one small mistake on one hole for that matter.
Tom Yost
> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests
> in all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest
> test from a mental/physical standpoint.
>
Neither as hard as reading your posts.
doghater!
This thread is stupid but I will still add my 2cents.
Golf is easier in the sense that many people can play "high level
shots." For example even a low level player may make a great drive or
an impossible put now and again. Whereas in Tennis you are NOT going
to see any club players hitting 110mph + serves and huge topspin
forehands. This is why in golf you can have amatuers win big events
simply because they blow "on" for that one event.
This could never happen in Tennis.
However, it is harder to be "consistent" in golf, than Tennis I
believe.
I HAVE TO DISAGREE W/ THAT. Tell me 1 event where an amateur won a
PROFESSIONAL event. I think a beginner can win @ either sport @ your
local golf course or tennis court. Not too many amateur tennis players
are serving up 110 mile serves just as few beginner golfers break 100
on regulation courses. For that matter very few people can drive a
golf ball more than 250 yds. A lot of people are full of shit saying
so but the avg drive is 200 - 240.
Alex
Now that you mention it an amatuer won a pro event just a few weeks
ago...
http://www.golfweek.com/story/johnnie-walker-rd4-022209
This would NEVER be possible in Tennis.
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Can amateur tennis players participate in a professional tennis match?
Tracy Austin won a professional tournament when she was 14.
LOL
> "Alex" <alex_min...@live.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 19, 8:32 pm, "doghater!" <dirt...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 5:43 am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This thread is stupid but I will still add my 2cents.
> > Golf is easier in the sense that many people can play "high level
> > shots." For example even a low level player may make a great drive or
> > an impossible put now and again. Whereas in Tennis you are NOT going
> > to see any club players hitting 110mph + serves and huge topspin
> > forehands. This is why in golf you can have amatuers win big events
> > simply because they blow "on" for that one event.
> > This could never happen in Tennis.
> > However, it is harder to be "consistent" in golf, than Tennis I
> > believe.
>
> > I HAVE TO DISAGREE W/ THAT. Tell me 1 event where an amateur won a
> > PROFESSIONAL event. I think a beginner can win @ either sport @ your
> > local golf course or tennis court. Not too many amateur tennis players
> > are serving up 110 mile serves just as few beginner golfers break 100
> > on regulation courses. For that matter very few people can drive a
> > golf ball more than 250 yds. A lot of people are full of shit saying
> > so but the avg drive is 200 - 240.
>
> Now that you mention it an amatuer won a pro event just a few weeks
>
> This would NEVER be possible in Tennis.
> ***************************
>
> Can amateur tennis players participate in a professional tennis match?
>
> - Show quoted text -
women develop faster
Alex
> "Alex" <alex_min...@live.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 19, 8:32 pm, "doghater!" <dirt...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 5:43 am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This thread is stupid but I will still add my 2cents.
> > Golf is easier in the sense that many people can play "high level
> > shots." For example even a low level player may make a great drive or
> > an impossible put now and again. Whereas in Tennis you are NOT going
> > to see any club players hitting 110mph + serves and huge topspin
> > forehands. This is why in golf you can have amatuers win big events
> > simply because they blow "on" for that one event.
> > This could never happen in Tennis.
> > However, it is harder to be "consistent" in golf, than Tennis I
> > believe.
>
> > I HAVE TO DISAGREE W/ THAT. Tell me 1 event where an amateur won a
> > PROFESSIONAL event. I think a beginner can win @ either sport @ your
> > local golf course or tennis court. Not too many amateur tennis players
> > are serving up 110 mile serves just as few beginner golfers break 100
> > on regulation courses. For that matter very few people can drive a
> > golf ball more than 250 yds. A lot of people are full of shit saying
> > so but the avg drive is 200 - 240.
>
> Now that you mention it an amatuer won a pro event just a few weeks
>
> This would NEVER be possible in Tennis.
> ***************************
>
> Can amateur tennis players participate in a professional tennis match?
> Tracy Austin won a professional tournament when she was 14.
Women's Tennis is a completely different 'ball-game' excuse the pun.
But yes, whilst anyone can enter a Tennis tournament in theory - if
they were given a wildcard for example, in practice it is only open to
professionals. However, it is simply inconceivable that anybody with
no track record in Men's Tennis could come out the blue and win a pro
masters series of slam tournament. It is extremely unlikely that this
could even happen on ATP - level events, yet such things do occur in
golf.
The moderator
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Teenage boys have won lots of professional tennis matches. A fifteen year
old won the US Clay Court Championship last year.
I guess you are just being sarcastic.
Professor X
Where do you make this shit up?
Marcel Granollers won the US clay court championship last year against
james blake in the final
you are ful of shit. try again?
Professor X
The only person I think you may be reffering to is Nishikori who won
san jose at 18 years old (and has struggled since)... but it's not as
if he came from nowhere. And we certainly are not talking about 15
year olds.
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I stand corrected. It was a 15 year old who won a match in the tournament.
He did not win the tournament.
Don Kirkman
<052528ad-c43d-4df1...@q16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>:
I think some guy named Jones played as an amateur against pros in open
events, and managed pretty well.
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don...@charter.net
gray asphalt
people playing the harder sport son't play as
well, so to speak. Chess my be harder than
bridge but you can't be the best without beating
everyone else at the same level.
This makes no sense, my post, but you know
what I mean, right?
R&B
> Some would say that the US Open or British Open are the toughest tests
> in all of sport. Some would say that the French Open is the toughest
> test from a mental/physical standpoint.
There is something inherantly wrong with any activity wherein if you
end up with love, you lose.
Randy
gob...@gmail.com
TomS
> Try hitting a backhand consistently over a net but landing inside courtlines in a rally on a full run every which way on a court.
-hh
Care to show an example of how this is possible in a game of tennis, Tom?
Yes, just one game. After all, a game of Tennis just requires scoring four (4)
points, with a 2 point margin, so you don't even have to use your toes to show
an example of how this is possible.
Insofar as Golf, "one bad shot", such as hitting totally out-of-bounds, just invokes
a penalty of a few strokes. There's been many examples in the Majors where a
player hits in the water/etc on a hole and incurring a penalty, yet still goes on to
win the round. There's probably even been a few instances where despite the
penalty, they even win that particular hole too.
-hh
TomS
TomS
-hh
> On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 4:39:12 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:50:52 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 12:47:33 AM UTC-7, gob...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > Try hitting a backhand consistently over a net but landing inside courtlines
>> > > in a rally on a full run every which way on a court.
>> >
>> > Bottom line: you can lose a majority of the points in tennis and win; you hit ONE
>> > bad shot in golf and you lose.
>>
>> Lose a majority of points and still win?
>>
>> Care to show an example of how this is possible in a game of tennis, Tom?
>>
>> Yes, just one game. After all, a game of Tennis just requires scoring four (4)
>> points, with a 2 point margin, so you don't even have to use your toes to show
>> an example of how this is possible.
>
>
Weak sauce.
Still waiting to hear how one wins a game by (at least) two, yet scoring fewer total points.
-hh
TomS
-hh
the Letter(s) are probably in a dusty box in the attic.
Need to be convinced with pics Tom? Well, provide us with
how one can win but one game of tennis while scoring fewer
total points and you'll get your chance.
-hh
TomS
-hh
...ever seriously play tennis Tom? /s
It was obvious from the start when I noted the fallacy of your "ONE bad
shot in golf" claim that it alleged to mandate loss, as I differentiated
between an entire round and just one hole.
-hh
TomS
-hh
in golf always means losing:
"you hit ONE bad shot in golf and you lose."
then go on to win by the end of play. The same is also true
in Football: one can have more yards rushing/passing, yet
because one fails to convert these to points, lose the game.
Ditto baseball: more hits, but fewer runs.
Its probably not a stretch to suggest that every sport will
have some sort of intermediary performance metric that never
has a 100% perfect correlation with the final win/lose outcome.
Film at 11.
> And you CAN win a tennis match and still lose a majority
> of the points.
for that's at the Match level, not the Game level.
At higher than the Game level, scoring more points but
still losing the Set/Match is not only possible, but
happens ~5% of the time. That's because points scored
doesn't perfectly correlate to games won. Plus another
factor which differentiates tennis from golf is that in
tennis, the winner must always win the final point,
whereas in golf, the winner doesn't have to. Indeed,
they can 'cruise' on a big lead and double-bogey lose
big the last hole (or day's round), yet still win the
overall tournament.
> Just having a tennis racket doesn't mean that you
> know ANYTHING about tennis.
than merely a racket!
-hh
TomS
The TRUTH is that I AM RIGHT: you can LOSE the VAST majority of the points in a tennis match and win. If you make ONE bad shot in golf, and it doesn't matter when you made it, you can lose. That is because ALL shots in a golf stroke match (the most common type of tournament) are cumulative (match play is scored hole-by-hole). In tennis it doesn't matter how many points you lose when you lose a game or set, you just lose the game or set.
That said, tennis is unquestionably far more physically demanding than golf, especially at the highest levels. But that wasn't the question.
-hh
the word "match" to change your original statement, you made
the mistake of also adding "VAST majority", which makes what
would have been a correct revised claim to be untrue.
In your scenario of "win while scoring fewest points", the
largest margin possible is but only four points in a Set:
Game A B Victor
1 6 4 A
2 0 4 B
3 6 4 A
4 0 4 B
5 6 4 A
6 0 4 B
7 6 4 A
8 0 4 B
9 6 4 A
10 6 4 A
36 40 6-4
See? Only four points.
Note that in order to game your "fewer points", Player B
must win a maximum number of games short of winning the Set,
with each one by the maximum margin. To eliminate even
but one such B game win results in a 'total points' tie:
Game A B Victor
1 6 4 A
2 0 4 B
3 6 4 A
4 0 4 B
5 6 4 A
6 0 4 B
7 6 4 A
8 6 4 A
9 6 4 A
36 36 6-3
Likewise, losing points in games is very much expected
and why the lexicon has "Break Point" & "Broken Serve"
which describe significant opportunities/events for
the disadvantaged player which may materially contribute
to the final outcome. For example, in a typically
close match (without Deuces) with only a single Service
Break, the points breakdown is:
Game A B
1 6 4
2 2 4
3 6 4
4 2 4
5 6 4
6 2 4
7 6 4
8 2 4
9 6 4
10 6 4
44 40
in this 6-4 victory for A, he lost 40 points, which is
pretty much the level to be expected, for it isn't until
one has mismatched players that one sees the theoretical
extreme of a full 6-0 sweep with complete shutout:
Game A B
1 4 0
2 4 0
3 4 0
4 4 0
5 4 0
6 4 0
24 0
> If you make ONE bad shot in golf, and it doesn't matter
> when you made it, you can lose.
pre-goalpost move statement was absolute:
"you hit ONE bad shot in golf and you lose."
> common type of tournament) are cumulative (match play is
> scored hole-by-hole).
goalposts after the fact, for not all golf play is stroke match.
> In tennis it doesn't matter how many points you lose when
> you lose a game or set, you just lose the game or set.
points yet still win" [at the Set/Match level], because each
individual game has a scoring limit such that one can't ever
lose a game by more than four (4) points.
> That said, tennis is unquestionably far more physically
> demanding than golf, especially at the highest levels.
> But that wasn't the question.
FWIW, seniors who've enjoyed tennis but want (or need) a
less physically demanding/fast game may consider pickleball.
-hh