Value of a Tiger Woods rookie card?
Tim Fierro
These guys are nuts if they are paying that much for this card.
Although the auction says 'rookie' card, I don't believe that was
the first card printed of Tiger Woods. I have a couple earlier
cards put out by a magazine that I can't recall the name right now.
If you are looking at $7,000 for that card, I will sell you mine for
$5,000 and you don't even need to use the auction. <g>
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<cyp...@punk.net> wrote in message news:8rp8pm$ikg$0...@pita.alt.net...
> I read a trade article that said PSA confirmed a
> sale of a Tiger Woods rookie card for $20000.
>
> That's unreal.
>
> I'm looking at an auction for $7000 for the card:
>
http://sothebys.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y04X637474
6X5610947/058-9699210-6009914
>
> I did an AltaVista search (+"tiger woods" +"rookie card") and
> found this closed auction:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=430255659&ed=
968471780
>
> ...and it sold for $11100.
>
> Wow.
>
> Anyone with any other references on its price?
Bruce D. Woods
just can't bid big bucks on a 'maybe someday' kind of player.
Tim Fierro
was
> # the first card printed of Tiger Woods. I have a couple
earlier
> # cards put out by a magazine that I can't recall the name right
now.
> o 1998 Masters Collection, both gold foil and gold ink versions
> are the only true rookie cards, with the Tiger Woods card
printed
> in 1997.
I am not sure what any 'authority' is calling the card that is first
print, and one that is in the set of Masters, but the availability
of the card will set the pricing for the future.
> If it's a loose card and not certified by PSA, it's not the rookie
card.
This really don't mean anything. The grade any shop puts on a card
is based on it's condition; meaning the corners, fading, off-center
print, etc... The grade is meant to give the condition of the card;
not it's value. The value can only be determined by willing buyers.
Nosm...@lungcancerous.nic
I've also changed the last three paragraphs.
(FYI, I am the photog of the piece.)
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cypher wrote:
# Tim Fierro <t...@duffertech.com> wrote:
# # > # Although the auction says 'rookie' card, I don't believe that was
# # > # the first card printed of Tiger Woods. I have a couple earlier
# # > # cards put out by a magazine that I can't recall the name right now.
# #
# # > o 1998 Masters Collection, both gold foil and gold ink versions
# # > are the only true rookie cards, with the Tiger Woods card printed
# # > in 1997.
# #
# #
# # I am not sure what any 'authority' is calling the card that is first
# # print, and one that is in the set of Masters, but the availability
# # of the card will set the pricing for the future.
#
# This stuff is a little new to me too. I find this sounds reasonable:
#
# % Sports Collectors Digest, 9/25/2000
# %
# % [except for SGC and Shop-At-Home] Most of the rest of the
# % industry considers both of the 1997 versions [gold foil/ink]
# % to be the rookies and the 1999 sheets to be only a collectible
# % sheet, since they were printed two years later, intended to
# % be sheets and are noticeably different [printing on back]
# % even if they're cut down from the sheet [SGC 1997/99 is this].
# %
# % "They are two rookie cards", says Bill King of Grand Slam Ventures.
# % "There was a rookie card in 1997 that was gold ink and a 1997
# % rookie card with gold foil. The '99 is not a card, it's a print."
# %
# % Said Krause Publications senior price guide analyst Bob Lemke,
# % "No card produced in a subsequent year can be honestly claimed
# % to be a rookie card. This includes reprints if a difference
# % between the original and reprint can readily be determined."
# %
# % PSA will not grade the cut-down [SGC 1997/99] 1999 cards - "We
# % get a lot of them sent to us and we reject them right away,"
# % PSA president Steve Rocchi said.
#
# ----
#
# # cypherpunk wrote:
# #
# # > If it's a loose card and not certified by PSA, it's not the rookie
# # card.
# #
# Tim Fierro <t...@duffertech.com> wrote:
# #
# # This really don't mean anything. The grade any shop puts on a card
# # is based on it's condition; meaning the corners, fading, off-center
# # print, etc... The grade is meant to give the condition of the card;
# # not it's value. The value can only be determined by willing buyers.
#
# As seen above, the designation 'rookie' comes before grading.
# Certification includes certifying that the item is what it
# will be sold as. A DiMaggio bat graded without regard as to
# whether its "10" signature is actually that of DiMaggio wouldn't
# mean a thing...the attribute 'rookie card' is also being certified.
#
# As for the value, absolutely: willing buyers.
#
# However, as I've looked around and found about a dozen sites/auctions
# involving the card, not a single loose card has turned out to be the
# actual rookie card. So, people are making the distinction.
#
# The last site I found was TigerRookie.com, which features the "rookie"
# card labeled "SGC 1997/99". So I emailed them and asked how much for
# the true rookie card. The response: "We have no SGC 1997 left."
#
# People who have them are holding them. It's just talk, but several
# different people posted they expect the rookie card to hit $5000
# by New Year's Eve.
#
# ----
#
# On the main page of Sothebys.Amazon.com there is now running a
# golf memorabilia special. Yow, paper golf tees! On a windy day
# these would be great: the ball will stay mounted.
#
# If you have a speedy modem, that auction pictures all of the
# cards in the Masters Collection set are part of the auction
# entitled "Golf: U.S. Open / Tiger Woods Masterpiece! (w/rookie card)",
# which are the U.S. Open winners 1934-1998.
Tim Fierro
"We
> As seen above, the designation 'rookie' comes before grading.
> Certification includes certifying that the item is what it
> will be sold as. A DiMaggio bat graded without regard as to
> whether its "10" signature is actually that of DiMaggio wouldn't
> mean a thing...the attribute 'rookie card' is also being
certified.
Not really. It is not stating that they will not grade it because
it is not the rookie card, they are not grading it because it is a
'cut-down' card. A card someone cut from the magazine sheet.
Regular cards are cut by a machine and an edge can be seen and
measured and the print can be measured for the centering; someone's
pair of scissors just doesn't really make sense to grade the card.
Tim Fierro
"rookie"
for
I have a few of those cards. I know I have seen them in my
collection. I can't pull any right now as I just moved and they are
in my storage trunk. This is the card that TigerRookie.com is
promoting as the 'rookie' card?
Tim Fierro
them
> hawking them on TV last night. After that they were doing a
hard-sell
> for a Jordan card that they claimed was a newly discovered rookie
card.
> They were selling it for 3-4 grand, and said sell some savings
bonds
> if necessary, just buy the card. Sheesh. They did say don't sell
your
> kids for the card.
I just love those guys on the shopping channel. That raspy voice
yelling YOU GOTTA GET THIS!!
> Anyway, I've put up a page at:
>
>
http://files.driveway.com/download/vapp02-489628f3c1aaf641/46737852/
Tiger_Rookie.html
>
> ...with my total results [knowledge] so far on this.
Thanks for the link. It wouldn't load right now when I tried, so I
forwarded this message to myself e-mail so I will try again later
and remember the address for it.
cyp...@punk.net
#
# http://Orwellian.Org/non-Orwellian/Tiger_Rookie.html
#
# It looks like another update will be made tonight,
# says the consigner.
Update made.
There is a description of how to tell the 99 card from the 97,
and details on a confirmed sale of a PSA grade 10 1997 card
for $20,000.
Tim Fierro
> http://Orwellian.Org/non-Orwellian/Tiger_Rookie.html
Thanks for the read. I actually printed this just so I can compare
it to my cards I have been saving over the years. I have been
collecting golf cards for about 6 years and I know I have some early
stuff as nobody collected golf cards back then. Everytime I went to
a card show or store, the people looked at me funny and scoffed at
the idea of golf cards when I asked if they had any. Sometimes I
got lucky and found some, but most of the time I didn't. Everytime
I found golf cards though, I bought them. :)