Titleist 975D,F,J?
Freddy Vegas
ust shafts. What exactly is the difference in the letters system. Thanks,
FreddyV
Alan Mills
"Freddy Vegas" <lvsm...@REMOVETHISearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:HjSQa.101909$Io.87...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
My driver is the 975 J. It is a degree or two closed at address to help
(cure) my slice. Not sure which might be which but i strongly suspect that
the other letters represent a square address position and a slightly open
address for hookers.
Or, if you read german then check out http://www.titleist.de/ as they still
have details about these models on their web site.
Colin Wilson
> I came across a good deal on a barely used group of 975 series drivers with
> ust shafts. What exactly is the difference in the letters system. Thanks,
The Titleist 975D is one of the "classic" and original Ti drivers.
They're about 275cc, first came out in late 1997. Every second tour pro
seemed to be using one (including Tiger Woods), quite a few low handicap
players still swear by them.
The 975F is the fairway wood model, came out early 1999. Again very
popular, especially with low handicap players. There was some problem
with early versions in that they were manufactured or marked with a
"closed" face when they weren't supposed to be (Titleist had a
"re-heading" offer). This wouldn't matter if you like a closed face ...
it helps you stop slicing. An excellent club.
The 975J superseded the 975D in early 2001. The head size increased to
about 320cc. Tiger Woods used a 975J before switching to his Nike
driver. There is a high-COR model (975J VS) which is "illegal" under
USGA Rules.
The 975 series of clubs was superseded by the 983 series only fairly
recently. All the 975 series are terrific clubs, and depending on the
age, price and shaft, you couldn't go wrong with a good one. The UST
shaft was a popular choice, often players replaced the original Titleist
shaft with the golf/purple UST Proforce.
--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
------------------------------------------------------------------
RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc
Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
jeffc
"Alan Mills" <Alan....@xservices.pants.fujitsu.com> wrote in message
news:bf0tor$1vet$1...@news.icl.se...
>
> "Freddy Vegas" <lvsm...@REMOVETHISearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:HjSQa.101909$Io.87...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > I came across a good deal on a barely used group of 975 series drivers
> with
> > ust shafts. What exactly is the difference in the letters system.
Thanks,
> > FreddyV
> >
>
> My driver is the 975 J. It is a degree or two closed at address to help
> (cure) my slice. Not sure which might be which but i strongly suspect
that
> the other letters represent a square address position and a slightly open
> address for hookers.
Where did you get the idea that the face is closed?
jeffc
"Freddy Vegas" <lvsm...@REMOVETHISearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:HjSQa.101909$Io.87...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
with
> ust shafts. What exactly is the difference in the letters system. Thanks,
D is the older driver - 2 generations old. The J driver is one generation
old. The F is a one generation old fairway wood.
Alan Mills
"jeffc" <f...@chance.com> wrote in message
news:3uTQa.225342$_w.91...@twister.southeast.rr.com...
The guy at the titleist demo day where i demo'd it. Told me it was the
model that promoted a draw (helpful to slicers like me). I asked if that
means it was clsoed a degree or two and he said it was. I therefore deduced
that the model, promoting a fade was a degree or two open.
Am I wrong then? Maybe he just nodded and agreed with me for an easy life.
Is it just toe or heel weighting that's the difference then?
MyQ
news:3F13FDB4...@kyneton.net.au:
<snip>
>
> The 975F is the fairway wood model, came out early 1999. Again very
> popular, especially with low handicap players. There was some problem
> with early versions in that they were manufactured or marked with a
> "closed" face when they weren't supposed to be (Titleist had a
> "re-heading" offer). This wouldn't matter if you like a closed face
> ... it helps you stop slicing. An excellent club.
>
> <snip>
Colin, how would I identify a 975F that might fit in this "re-heading"
category?
I have a 13.5* 975F on an original Titleist shaft that is an absolute
"bear" to hit - probably the most unforgiving club I've ever played -
it's easier to hit my 1980's Titleist Tour Blade 1-iron than this 975F.
When I connect with the 975F, it is incredibly long, but it's so hard to
do that with this d@#n club. I used an apparently identical club
belonging to a friend of mine and I didn't have any problem with it. His
is one year newer than the one I have - was there a model change that
they snuck in or is it possible I have a "problem child" 975F?
I've spent a lot of practice time trying to like my 975F, but I think we
have a marriage made in hell! Now I see the light, maybe it's not me!!!
Many thanks. MyQ.
{low handicap - low trajectory - light draw shot shape)
Colin Wilson
> Colin, how would I identify a 975F that might fit in this "re-heading"
> category?
I'd have thought that if you just set it up at address it would "look"
closed, but maybe the variation is too subtle.
> I have a 13.5* 975F on an original Titleist shaft that is an absolute
> "bear" to hit - probably the most unforgiving club I've ever played -
> it's easier to hit my 1980's Titleist Tour Blade 1-iron than this 975F.
> When I connect with the 975F, it is incredibly long, but it's so hard to
> do that with this d@#n club. I used an apparently identical club
> belonging to a friend of mine and I didn't have any problem with it. His
> is one year newer than the one I have - was there a model change that
> they snuck in or is it possible I have a "problem child" 975F?
>
> I've spent a lot of practice time trying to like my 975F, but I think we
> have a marriage made in hell! Now I see the light, maybe it's not me!!!
There was a thread I remembered vaguely from rec.sport.golf at the time
(2000) about how they'd made some early 975Fs with a closed face ... I
was looking at buying one, it was about the same time my son bought a
975D (which he still plays btw).
I searched for the thread through Google (see http://tinyurl.com/h1sn),
and this is what Titleist said in relation to a query from one poster:
"Thanks for contacting Titleist
We are offering reheading for all the 99 models that have closed
faces. You would need to visit any local titleist retailer and have
them send the club to our repair department. Once our repair team
receives the club, they will measure the face angle, if it measures
closed, they will put the new 2000 model on your club for you. If it
is square or open, they will call you to discuss what you want to do,
because they will not do a free rehead."
(Derek Ladd , Consumer Relations)
I'd suggest you contact Titleist regarding the club and whether their
offer still stands. Apparently it wasn't very well advertised even then,
and it might have passed.
Freddy Vegas
65 Stiff/ Stiff Tip. So the D would be considered and standard face ...
neither open or closed? Thanks, FreddyV
"Colin Wilson" <pub...@kyneton.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F13FDB4...@kyneton.net.au...
jeffc
>
> > >
> > > My driver is the 975 J. It is a degree or two closed at address to
help
> > > (cure) my slice. Not sure which might be which but i strongly suspect
> > that
> > > the other letters represent a square address position and a slightly
> open
> > > address for hookers.
> >
> > Where did you get the idea that the face is closed?
> >
>
> The guy at the titleist demo day where i demo'd it. Told me it was the
> model that promoted a draw (helpful to slicers like me). I asked if that
> means it was clsoed a degree or two and he said it was. I therefore
deduced
> that the model, promoting a fade was a degree or two open.
>
> Am I wrong then? Maybe he just nodded and agreed with me for an easy
life.
> Is it just toe or heel weighting that's the difference then?
I think he was wrong. There is the original 975J, then they made the
975J-VS and 975J-FE. The VS is weighted to promote a draw, and the FE
promotes a fade. I'm pretty sure all recent Titleist drivers have square
faces. When most folks in the golf industry open their mouths, you have to
take it with a grain of salt.
jeffc
"MyQ" <no...@all.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93B9706B7E3EEam...@64.8.50.12...
>
> I have a 13.5* 975F on an original Titleist shaft that is an absolute
> "bear" to hit - probably the most unforgiving club I've ever played -
I didn't like the early versions either. They have a bore-thru shaft and on
the bottom, the little black dot is off to the side of the red pattern, not
in the middle of it.
Colin Wilson
> Thanks for the info. I hit the D very long and straight. It's got a ProForce
> 65 Stiff/Stiff Tip. So the D would be considered and standard face ...
> neither open or closed?
Should be square. If you hit it long and straight, it wouldn't matter. ;-)
Alan Mills
For completeness, when I said my driver was the 'J' model. I do of course
mean the J-VS. I thought the two terms were synonymous. Apologies. So it
is just a weighting thingy then. I'm happy to accept that. Maybe the dude
thought i wouldnt; understand so just nodded and agreed with my assumption
of a closed face. For an easy life maybe?
Either way, it's a great club. Hit my first 300 yard drive only a coupl eof
weeks ago. Never been close before or since though. Maybe it was a fluke.
Freddy Vegas
Very true. And for $50 I'd say quite a deal too eh. FreddyV
"Colin Wilson" <pub...@kyneton.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F14A8A...@kyneton.net.au...