Hale Irwin -- Mr Unpopular?
Jack Perry
Bennett) writes:
|>
|> I remember either reading or hearing something a few years ago about
|> how Hale Irwin was rated the last popular player on the PGA tour (by
|> his fellow pros). Is there any truth in this, and if so, does anybody
|> have the top ten or anything?
|>
|> I think it was about '92 or '93.
I recall a poll of players a few years back where the
question was who are the players you most/least like to
be paired with, which is not necessarily the same as
being popular. Hale Irwin was near or at the top of
least favorite playing partners and a couple of
unidentified players said that he's always complaining
about bad bounces and bad breaks as if he never gets
a good one and no one else ever gets a bad one.
Guess he's one pro who hasn't accepted the
fundamental unfairness of golf.
I don't recall any other names off the top of my head.
My guess is the article I'm recalling was in Golf Digest,
since I haven't read many of the other golf rags.
I thought the article gave some interesting insights
into player personalities.
Jack
Wade Alberty
tourny with his son, and got to meet him. My friend said that he was a
stuck up, jerk, and pretty much had a holyer than thou attitude.
Wade A.
Rick Siegert
>
> I remember either reading or hearing something a few years ago about
> how Hale Irwin was rated the last popular player on the PGA tour (by
> his fellow pros). Is there any truth in this, and if so, does anybody
> have the top ten or anything?
I have heard this before...and witnessed his rather surly attitude most
recently at the US Senior Open at Congressional. An outstanding golfer
who just doesn't happen to possess the greatest of personalities (although
I'm sure for every comment like this someone has a story where Hale donated
one of his kidneys to some poor child).
Jonathan Nelson
T801%NEMOMUS...@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu says...
I was at the victory dinner after the '91 Ryder Cup. I congratulated
each American on a great day, and while all were cordial, Hale went out
of his way to be super nice.
Again at the Centel Championship in '92 (the now defunct tournament for
golfers 40-49), the markers for the third hole had their three year old
son with them who would say hi to each golfer as they came up. All would
just say hi back, but Hale said "Hi Bryan", and talked to the kid for
awhile. None of the other golfers had taken the time to find out what
this kid's name was.
I think Hale is a class act. Try talking to Bruce Crampton if you want
to find someone who doesn't want to talk to fans.
HHamil7780
>> My friend said that he was a Stuck up, jerk, and pretty much had a
holyer than thou attitude.
Another person wrote:
>I was at the victory dinner after the '91 Ryder Cup. I congratulated
>each American on a great day, and while all were cordial, Hale went out
>of his way to be super nice.
>
>Again at the Centel Championship in '92 (the now defunct tournament for
>golfers 40-49), the markers for the third hole had their three year old
>son with them who would say hi to each golfer as they came up. All would
>just say hi back, but Hale said "Hi Bryan", and talked to the kid for
>awhile. None of the other golfers had taken the time to find out what
>this kid's name was.
>
>I think Hale is a class act. Try talking to Bruce Crampton if you want
>to find someone who doesn't want to talk to fans.
I've posted in another message my good impressions of various pros...some
of whom my acquaintances have completely different opinions. I credit
and blame the opinion holders more than the golfers! Some people look for
the best in others and generally find it, thereby enjoying realationships
and fun days -- while others look for the worst in others and generally
find faults, thereby spending their days whining and criticizing.
Anyone can have a bad day and a surly attitude for a while.
At one FedEx/St.Jude golf tourney pro-am day here in Memphis, I followed a
certain pro's amateur team for a while. The pro was short and snappy with
answers and walked on the opposite side of the fairway from the amatuer
foresome. I thought he was a jerk and told my buddies to avoid him. Lo
and behold, last year we came upon this same pro and team -- and he was
laughing, joking, talking to the crowd and his team was doing well, having
fun. I took back my criticism and told my buddies I was wrong.
Whatever you look for, good or bad, you'll find it.
Hugh Hamilton
Hugh Hamilton
Audrey A. Copperwheat
> I think Hale is a class act. Try talking to Bruce Crampton if you want
> to find someone who doesn't want to talk to fans.
I don't know about Hale Irwin, but you're on the mark with Bruce
Crampton from what I've seen.
I've attended two PGA tourneys, 1 LPGA, and 3 SPGA. Of those, two
players stand out as being absolutely wonderful with the fans: John
Paul Cain and Jim Ferree (sorry if I misspelled). I'd love to play with
these two guys anytime.
On another note, the nicest way to say it is that Chi-Chi seems to have
a split-personality. One for the camera, and then there's the other. :(
Terry Pierce
AC> have a split-personality. One for the camera, and then there's the
AC> other. :(
I don't know about Chi-Chi, but I would say the exact thing about Lee
Trevino. I flew on the same plane as he one year when he was on his way
to a tournament. When we arrived at the baggage claim area, the
tournament director was there to meet him. Trevino was an A--!! He
proceeded to berate the director using the foulest of language for 10
minutes (I'm not exaggerating)because his courtesy car was the wrong
model, his complimentary condo was a little farther from the course than
he wanted, and by the way, what the hell were all these people doing
bothering him, haven't the idiots in your city ever seen a celebrity
before?
About six months later, I had the opportunity to serve on a committee
with this tournament director, and mentioned what I had seen. He told me
that this happened every year with Trevino, and that they had finally had
enough, and with players like Stockton, Floyd etc now on the Senior tour,
they didn't need him, so he was invited to not return.
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