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Why do Pros put their grips on backwards?

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ASIANSNTN4

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Apr 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/12/98
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I have notice that tour players like Tiger Woods and Scott Hoch have their
grips put on backwards. The golf pride logo on the underside of the club. Why
is that?

Toby

DnThMiddle

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Apr 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/12/98
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Photo opportunities. When they "hold the pose" at the finish of the follow
through......the logo(s) can be seen. Graphite shaft mfgs also screen their
logos on the "bottom" side of the shaft for the same reason.

William Sneddon

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Apr 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/13/98
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Because they don't get paid to play them, therefore no advertising
ASIANSNTN4 wrote in message
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>I have notice that tour players like Tiger Woods and Scott Hoch have their
>grips put on backwards. The golf pride logo on the underside of the club.
Why
>is that?
>
>Toby

Scott Bershing

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Apr 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/13/98
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This isn't true. Golf Pride doesn't pay players to play their grips, which
is actually a better selling point, as most of them do anyways. I think
that it has more to do with having a cleaner look at address. Most club
manufactures put the logo on the underside of the shaft when looking at
address for this same reason. BTW, every graphite shaft I know of can be
installed with the logo in either the 6 or12 o'clock position.

Scott
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In article <199804121407...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
dnthm...@aol.com (DnThMiddle) wrote:


>>I have notice that tour players like Tiger Woods and Scott Hoch have their
>>grips put on backwards. The golf pride logo on the underside of the club.
>>Why
>>is that?
>

F. Blaine Dickson

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Apr 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/13/98
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>This isn't true. Golf Pride doesn't pay players to play their grips, which
>is actually a better selling point, as most of them do anyways. I think
>that it has more to do with having a cleaner look at address. Most club
>manufactures put the logo on the underside of the shaft when looking at
>address for this same reason. BTW, every graphite shaft I know of can be
>installed with the logo in either the 6 or12 o'clock position.
>
>Scott

Its because of the way a grip is molded at the factory. There is a small
ridge on some grips when they come from the factory; they are not perfectly
round. If you have ever had a club re-gripped with too much tape under the
shaft, you can feel it in your fingers, and your hands don't quite sit
properly on the club. Having the grip placed with the logo underneath
allows the portion of the grip in the fingers to sit a little more
uniformly in the hands while the ridge sits more in the palms. It's a
little less noticeable there.

--
F. Blaine Dickson
Mutual Fund Advisor
Capri Intercity Financial / TWC Financial Corp.
Kelowna BC Canada

"Take time to dream."
--

DnThMiddle

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Apr 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/14/98
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>BTW, every graphite shaft I know of can be
>installed with the logo in either the 6 or12 o'clock position.

Can you say the word "SPINE"??? The installation of the spine is much more
crucial than where the logo goes. The shafts that go on the tour vans (not the
off-the-shelf ones, but what the players actually use) are selected and spined
in the factory before they are painted and silkscreened. The logos
(Callaway, UST, etc.) are deliberately put on the bottom of the shaft when the
spine is at " 3 o'clock" to a right-handed player. This is, I repeat, for
photo opportunities. A clean look has nothing to do with it.

> Most club
>manufactures put the logo on the underside of the shaft when looking at
>address

I sure am glad I didn't have you build a set of clubs for me. You are exactly
WRONG in this statement! Every set of graphite clubs in my store has a logo on
top of the shaft...except the lefty sets.

> Golf Pride doesn't pay players to play their grips, <

I don't know about Golf Pride, but I do know about Aldilla. They don't pay
anybody to play their shafts. Aldilla shafts are the most played shafts on all
the tours, accounting for more shafts than all the rest combined. Combined.
Fact. Guess where Aldilla puts the logo on the Tour shafts? End of
discussion.

Chester Bowles

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Apr 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/14/98
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I always thought the pros used round grips (rather than grips with a
ridge along the back) to allow them to change hand positions for
fade/draw. If that's true, it doesn't matter whether the grip logo goes
on top or bottom.

Chet

Scott Bershing

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Apr 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/14/98
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I usually don't get caught up in pissing matches, but here goes. Although I
am sure that you know what you are talking about as far as the logo position
in relation to the spine position, I think that you are overlooking the
obvious. My original reply had nothing to do with the spine position, as
even though every shaft manufacturer is different, many align their logos so
the spine is in the correct position when the logo is in either the 6 or 12
o'clock position. Thus, the player has a choice of having either a clean
looking shaft or a flashy logo at address. Given this choice, most will
opt for the logo to be underneath. If that happens to present better photo
oportunities, then so be it. Unless they are being payed to play a
particular shaft, I really don't think that they give a crap if the logo is
visible in a photo or not. The original post was asking about pros, not
custom club builders or club manufacturers. That was my basis for my
original reply. There is no reason for you to go off the deep end like you
did. Furthermore, everyone has an opinion, and mine just happens to be
based on installation instructions for a few different brands of shafts,
installation instructions provided by Golfsmith, information pulled from a
number of web sites and club manufacturing discussion groups and two
conversations: the first was with a product rep with UST, and the second
was with a tech support guy with Golfsmith.


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Randy&Margaret

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Apr 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/14/98
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F. Blaine Dickson wrote:

> Its because of the way a grip is molded at the factory. There is a small
> ridge on some grips when they come from the factory; they are not perfectly
> round.

Grips come in a variety of diameters and types. The two main types are "ribbed"
and "round" and they are made that way, not by mistake.

> If you have ever had a club re-gripped with too much tape under the
> shaft, you can feel it in your fingers, and your hands don't quite sit
> properly on the club.

You are probably feeling the rib of a ribbed grip.

> Having the grip placed with the logo underneath
> allows the portion of the grip in the fingers to sit a little more
> uniformly in the hands while the ridge sits more in the palms. It's a
> little less noticeable there.
>

You should have ordered round grips. The logo has nothing to do with it.


DnThMiddle

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Apr 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/15/98
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>I usually don't get caught up in pissing matches, but here goes.

I think you started it ..

..> everyone has an opinion, and mine just happens to<<

Be well meaning, but erroneous.

To the board....I have replied privately to Scott, explaining in great detail
what I am not going to bore you with....let it be said, finally...it's a photo
opportunity thing. Nothing more.

> Unless they are being payed to play a
>particular shaft, I really don't think that they give a crap if the logo is
visible in a photo or not. <

The correct useage is "paid" not "payed"....and you can just bet your Bertha
that Ely cares a big crap where that logo is...

"R&B"

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Apr 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/16/98
to Scott Bershing

One thing is certain--the guys who play with grips that are on backwards
are using ROUND, not RIBBED grips. That rib down the top of the grip
(rather than on the bottom) would be totally weird feeling.

Randy


Scott Bershing wrote:
>
> This isn't true. Golf Pride doesn't pay players to play their grips, which
> is actually a better selling point, as most of them do anyways. I think

> that it has more to do with having a cleaner look at address. Most club


> manufactures put the logo on the underside of the shaft when looking at

> address for this same reason. BTW, every graphite shaft I know of can be


> installed with the logo in either the 6 or12 o'clock position.
>

> Scott
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> In article <199804121407...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

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