Harvey Penick Custom Clubs: Any Comments?
sf...@cornell.edu
Greetings all,
Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
thanks...
Scott
Bill Huang
<sf...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>Greetings all,
>Scott
I'm also curious about these clubs. Please post if you have some
experience with them.
William Burnham
sf...@cornell.edu wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
> clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
> thanks...
>
> Scott
I had a friend make me a set of Penick clubs (Master) last year and have
been very happy with them. Much easier to hit than the tour blades that I
used for 40 years! Had the irons made with steel shafts and the woods
with graphite. Took me a while to get use to the woods since you need to
swing slower with the graphite. My driver is the 12 deg version and it is
excellent. The distance that you get is slightly less than a full driver,
but it has the advantage that you can play it from the fairway easily. It
is more like a 2-wood. The distance loss is small and the versatility
more than makes up for the few yards lost.
I found the irons very forgiving of mishits. For the price, they have to
rank as one of the best options available. I'm sure that you wil be happy
with them.
Bill
kat...@cris.com
<sf...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>Greetings all,
>
>Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
>clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
>thanks...
Both the perimeter weighted Masters and the blade-like Classic Players
are high quality component heads. I'd recommend either of them,
assuming they're fitted to a shaft that fits you. Personally, I
recommend the Rifle shaft.
Ric
DearOldDad
sf...@cornell.edu wrote:
: Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
: thanks...
Uuuuhhhhh ... Scott, Harvey died about a year or so ago, and I doubt that
'a guy who sells them next week' ever met or played with or even spoke on
the phone with Harvey, so if you want to pay for the signature, go ahead,
but it's not going to improve your game. Only my 1895 cents worth.
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Allen Douglas
I occassionally play with an aquaintance 'has a set, he loves them, well
fitted and comfortable. It was obvious to me that he had alot of
confidence in them, for a beginner he played well , he's game keeps
improving. I play Hogan edge, I'd compare Penick to any good quality
cavity back design.
Eric Burcham
On 27 Apr 1996 03:18:26 GMT, d...@news.epix.net (DearOldDad) wrote:
>sf...@cornell.edu wrote:
>: Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
>: clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
>: thanks...
>: Scott
Scott... I've heard good reports about this line of Golfsmith clubs.
I'm considering building a set of Harvey Penick "Classic Player" irons
as my next foray into club building. They are at the least as good as
any "name" brand on the market, provided your clubmaker is competent.
Try 'em, you might love 'em!
---
Eric Burcham
(cra...@onramp.net,
usme...@ibmmail.com)
Randy Alan Yeip
At 3:18 AM on 4/27/96, DearOldDad pounded out the following:
> sf...@cornell.edu wrote:
> : Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
> : clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
> : thanks...
> : Scott
>
> Uuuuhhhhh ... Scott, Harvey died about a year or so ago, and I doubt that
> 'a guy who sells them next week' ever met or played with or even spoke on
> the phone with Harvey, so if you want to pay for the signature, go ahead,
> but it's not going to improve your game. Only my 1895 cents worth.
>
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> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore!
> Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/_emai...@epix.net_|_____
John, I think you missed the boat on this one. Golfsmith has been selling
the Penick line of clubs for over a year now; they started the line before
Harvey died. And I can testify to the fact that the Classic Player irons
are quality clubs. I used the Brunswick UCV-304 stiff shaft, with a Golf
Pride tour wrap grip, in a 6-iron. I'm saving up my money to buy the whole
set to replace my XPCs. And I assure you that *I* didn't pay for the
signature; they were the specs I wanted, and practice has convinced me they
are what I want.
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Randy A. Yeip "It was stupid. I learned a lesson.
yeip...@pilot.msu.edu When you have a fight with a club,
Michigan State University the club always wins."
Journalism/Political Science -Patti Hayes, on injuring her foot
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Bill Huang
Randy Alan Yeip <yeip...@PILOT.MSU.EDU> wrote:
<snip...>
And I can testify to the fact that the Classic Player irons
>are quality clubs. I used the Brunswick UCV-304 stiff shaft, with a Golf
>Pride tour wrap grip, in a 6-iron. I'm saving up my money to buy the whole
>set to replace my XPCs. And I assure you that *I* didn't pay for the
>signature; they were the specs I wanted, and practice has convinced me they
>are what I want.
I'm very interested in building a set of these clubs myself. I'm a
little hesitant since I can't hit them though. Can you tell me what
they look like when addressing the ball ? Do they have a real thick
looking topline.. medium or thin ?? I've been unable to find any
picture (I've sent for the Golfsmith catalog but havn't gotten it yet)
that shows anything but the back of the club.
Thanks,
Bill Huang
Randy Alan Yeip
At 2:31 AM on 4/28/96, Bill Huang pounded out the following:
> I'm very interested in building a set of these clubs myself. I'm a
> little hesitant since I can't hit them though. Can you tell me what
> they look like when addressing the ball ? Do they have a real thick
> looking topline.. medium or thin ?? I've been unable to find any
> picture (I've sent for the Golfsmith catalog but havn't gotten it yet)
> that shows anything but the back of the club.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Huang
They have a thin to medium topline, with very little offset. Personally, I
love the way they set up and look at address. A very "classic" looking
club from that angle. I suggest you do what I did and order just a single
club to try out, then decide if you want the whole set.
kat...@cris.com
whu...@airmail.net (Bill Huang) wrote:
>I'm very interested in building a set of these clubs myself. I'm a
>little hesitant since I can't hit them though. Can you tell me what
>they look like when addressing the ball ? Do they have a real thick
>looking topline.. medium or thin ?? I've been unable to find any
>picture (I've sent for the Golfsmith catalog but havn't gotten it yet)
>that shows anything but the back of the club.
The topline of the Classic Players is very thin, just like a forged
blade.
I have a used set of 3-LW Classic Player heads for sale. They are in
very good condition, with wear on the sandblasted finish of the face
from hitting balls.
They'll cost you $155.00 for the set from Golfsmith, plus shipping.
I'll sell them for $100.00 for the set and I'll pay shipping, unless
you want them 2nd or next day air...then you pay shipping.
Let me know via email.
Ric
Tom Kiihr
d...@news.epix.net (DearOldDad) wrote:
>sf...@cornell.edu wrote:
>: Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
>: clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
>: thanks...
>: Scott
>Uuuuhhhhh ... Scott, Harvey died about a year or so ago, and I doubt that
>'a guy who sells them next week' ever met or played with or even spoke on
>the phone with Harvey, so if you want to pay for the signature, go ahead,
>but it's not going to improve your game. Only my 1895 cents worth.
Uuuuhhhhh ... Dad, I don't think anybody believes that Harvey Penick
is going to build a set of clubs for anybody. What the original
poster was refering to is a line of components by Golfsmith. It is
called the Harvey Penick line, and yes Mr. Penick did have a hand in
designing them.
To the original poster, as far as the quality is concerned, coming
from Golfsmith I'm sure the components themselves are first-rate.
However, alot depends on the care and skill of the guy building them
for you.
Personally, I think the Penick clubs are a very nice looking set, but
I have never hit them. I do remember reading in one of the major
magazines (either Golf or Golf Digest) during their annual equipment
ratings, that these clubs were less forgiving than some of the other
brands. The general concensus seemed to be that they were more of a
"players" club and maybe not so well suited to a beginner or a weekend
hack.
Chris Szajna
>><sf...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings all,
>>
>>>Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
>>>clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
>>>thanks...
>>
>>>Scott
>>
>>
>>experience with them.
>>
I play the Classic Player (2 degrees upright) with a Rifle 6.5. Best club I
have played in years. I switched from Ping Eye 2 green dots. I built this enti
re
set of 3-10, SW, and LW for about $300. BTW anyone want to buy a set of Zing 2
black dots?
Bill Huang
From the comments I have received in email and the posts here, it
seems that most have experience with the Penick Classic components.
Anybody care to comment about the Master components (Take dead aim?) ?
These seem to be billed as a more forgiving club.
BTW, thanks to all who responded to my questions.
Bill Huang
kat...@cris.com
whu...@airmail.net (Bill Huang) wrote:
I've played both. The Masters are more forgiving in terms of distance
on mishits, they hit the ball higher, they are less workable, and they
are quality clubs.
I originally played the Masters and switched to the Classic Players
because I wanted a more workable blade-like iron and I wanted to be
able to control the trajectory better. The CP's gave me both, but over
time I didn't like giving up the distance on mishits. They are much
like a forged blade in that regard, although not nearly as painful. I
think they're a perfect compromise between cavity back and forged
blade.
Ric
Alfred C. Yen
> From the comments I have received in email and the posts here, it
> seems that most have experience with the Penick Classic components.
> Anybody care to comment about the Master components (Take dead aim?) ?
> These seem to be billed as a more forgiving club.
>
> BTW, thanks to all who responded to my questions.
>
> Bill Huang
Bill:
My experience with the Master components is with a 2 iron, which I had
built last fall for $30. It's a very good club, especially considering
the $70-80 one would pay for a name brand 2 iron. I can't say I feel any
difference in quality from the RAM Laser zx I have for 3-pw, or any other
clubs I've hit. If I were to get new irons, I'd give serious
consideration to them.
Fred
Fred Yen
Boston College Law School
Y...@hermes.bc.edu
Ron Williams
I'd add only one caveat to the enthusiasm for the Penick clubs. Check out
the weight of the heads before assembly and also check out the loft angle
to see where they fall in regard to specs. I answered this question via
email and subsequently have heard of discrepencies of six to seven grams
from head to head via a clubmaker-friend. It seems that these variations
arise in the finishing process, with a little too much enthusiasm at the
grinder. Three grams is about the weight of a US penny, so it's not hard
to take off too much material. My friend found a nine and eight iron
(Penick Masters) reversed for weight (the eight heavier than the nine) in
one set. I had a set of perfectly matched heads the first time I assembled
a set and didn't weigh until after assembly on the second set: disaster;
Lead tape all over the place. This summer I'll take them apart and
checkout the head weights to verify that that's where the difference lies,
but I've found miniscule variations in the Loomis shafts I use or the
grips. BTW, I don't use them any more. Good luck.
Ron
In article <4lpavv$a...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, <sf...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> Would anyone care to comment on the quality of Harvey Penick custom-made
> clubs, as I am going to be fit by a guy who sells them next week. Many
> thanks...
>
> Scott
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John Payne
I've made several sets and all have been pleased with the clubs. The Pennick
Masters have stong lofts so I recommend getting the 11 iron with the set. The
heads look nice and are pretty durable.
Hope this helps.
John in Alpharetta
Mark Casey
Ron Williams wrote:
>
> I'd add only one caveat to the enthusiasm for the Penick clubs. Check out
> the weight of the heads before assembly and also check out the loft angle
> to see where they fall in regard to specs. I answered this question via
> email and subsequently have heard of discrepencies of six to seven grams
> from head to head via a clubmaker-friend. It seems that these variations
> arise in the finishing process, with a little too much enthusiasm at the
> grinder. Three grams is about the weight of a US penny, so it's not hard
> to take off too much material. My friend found a nine and eight iron
> (Penick Masters) reversed for weight (the eight heavier than the nine) in
> one set. I had a set of perfectly matched heads the first time I assembled
> a set and didn't weigh until after assembly on the second set: disaster;
> Lead tape all over the place. This summer I'll take them apart and
> checkout the head weights to verify that that's where the difference lies,
> but I've found miniscule variations in the Loomis shafts I use or the
> grips. BTW, I don't use them any more. Good luck.
>
Ditto...
I ordered a 7 iron head to build a demo club. It should have weighed
267 +/- a couple of grams. It weighed 276 grams. I built the club
anyway, not wanting to wait. It performed reasonably well (with
TT Gold+ shaft, came out to D4). However if this is the type of quality
control Golfsmith is achieving, I'm not going with these. I don't want
to have to worry about needing to send heads back that are out of spec.
This seems to confirm previous postings about Golfsmith's quality
falling off...remember, the Pennicks are supposed to be their premier
components. I was very disappointed.
On a similar note, the order took over 2 weeks to arrive. When I called
to check the order after 7 bus. days, I asked about their published 5-day
(ship w/in 24 hr) delivery to my zone. The response was something to the
effect of..."Oh, not during the busy spring season." Seems they "forgot"
to mention that when I ordered the components.
All in all, a poor showing on Golfsmith's part
regards,
Mark
GolfBeau
I have four of the woods, 1,3,5,7 and just purchased and 8-iron to try.
The woods have done well for me and so far the iron seems to be good also.
Good Luck
Michael Charles
Kevin George
In article <4necs2$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, golf...@aol.com says...
I have the 1,3,5,7,9 woods and 3-LW Of Classic Player irons. I think these are
excellent clubs. The Penick Master irons are probably a little more forgiving
than the Classic.
Kevin George
Stephen M Prather
I built a set of the Classic Player irons with TT Dynamic Gold shafts and
wouldn't trade 'em for anything. Beautiful clubs that are rock solid
when hit properly. Minimal offset and traditional head size set up
behind the ball beautifully. One of the best no-gimmick component heads
in my opinion.
--
Myles Prather "Damn we're smooth" - B&B
EE At LSU
@server.northernnet.com Cahill Family
My husband who is a golf pro made me a Harvey Penick driver a year ago.
I hit it better than any other club I've had. Now I have a set of Harvey
irons and a 5 wood. I wouldn't trade mine for anything either. His club
sales of these have been great. I love how they feel. My game has vastly
improved.
Jerrie (jer) & Larry (lars) Barrett
In <4nvlh4$a...@news.corpcomm.net> Cahill Family <cahill
It just hit me as weird; such a ringing anonymous endorsement!