Biggest Hitters in NFL History
Aaron Bernstein
hitters in NFL history. Names like Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, L.T., and
Chuck Cecil were thrown around. Does anyone have a case for "their"
biggest hitter in NFL history?
Aaron
49ers
Does anyone have a case for "their"
biggest hitter in NFL history
Ronnie Lott...Hands down. LT was good and quick,Tatum and Cecil=
Cheap shots
49ers
Mstokes
wrote:
>
> Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was all
> about speed, not hitting.
>
Wrong....Tatum was a hitter.
Mstokes
wrote:
>
>
> Ronnie Lott...Hands down. LT was good and quick,Tatum and Cecil=
> Cheap shots
Wrong again...Tatum ws a hitter.
5ea8ma...@vms.csd.mu.edu
>about speed, not hitting.
LT could hit. . . remember Tehismann, for Pete's sake? Also, in a meaningless
late season game against New Orleans one year, he completely obliterated a
Saint lineman on a block after an interception.
>
>My Hitters(in no order);
>1. Ronnie Lott
>2. Jack Lambert
>3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
>4. Dick Butkus
>5. Ed Sprinkle
>
>- Dan
>--
What about Mean Joe Greene? And was Karrass up there? (I was too yung
to see him play)
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Earl Campbell.
What a long strange trip it's been
: I got into a discussion the other day with some friends about the biggest
: hitters in NFL history. Names like Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, L.T., and
: Chuck Cecil were thrown around. Does anyone have a case for "their"
: biggest hitter in NFL history?
I saw an interview with Thurman Thomas.
He was asked about the hitters. He said the one he feared was Dennis Smith.
Lars
Mark Zaino
>
Without doubt in my mind RONNIE LOTT.
This guy was,is and always will be simply a ferious hitter.
Mark Zaino
Go Cowboys
Satish Nair
Buddy Ryan (he's big... and Gilbride can tell you he can hit).
satish nair
Pat Riley
>.
I've never really kept track of big hitters and my history of
watching football doesn't go back to the Butkus era. But in
many of the highlights I have seen over the past couple of
years, cheap-shots or not, Chuck Cecil could HIT. There
were many times I would notice the highlights just by
the way he would put someone on their back. To sum it up,
I guess he always got my attention!
Just an opinion.
Pat "not the coach" Riley
Glenn Rhoads
>>Does anyone have a case for "their"
>>biggest hitter in NFL history?
>How about Chuck Bednarik?
I can't argue with this choice. I'm glad I'm not the only one who
knows who he is.
One player that no one else has mentioned but deserves to be is
"The Hammer," (Earl Williamson??) if for no other reason than his
unique hitting style.
-- Glenn Rhoads
Dan Halem
>Aaron
Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was all
about speed, not hitting.
My Hitters(in no order);
1. Ronnie Lott
2. Jack Lambert
3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
4. Dick Butkus
5. Ed Sprinkle
- Dan
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How about Chuck Bednarik?
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Wrong again Spanky......The bottle and pills he "hit" dont count.
BTW-what does ws mean? It means you need to use a spell checker.
49ers
You call that a hit? More like swatting a fly away! B^)
49ers
Rick Brusuelas
My favorite Jack Tatum story goes as follows:
The Raiders had corraled some player, and as usual, about
four or five Raiders had already stopped the oppoent
and were already piling on. Then out of the blue
Jack Tatum comes flying into the pile out of
nowhere.
When later asked about the obvious late hit, and more
to the point how he could even see the guy he was hitting,
Tatum said he just saw the opponents arm and just aimed for it.
I guess he will be always remembered for ending Stingley's
career.
But speaking of "mean" players, Alex Karras was supposed to
have been pretty dirty. He and another Lion DT (who I have
since forgotten) used to tam up on opposing offensive
lineman they used to dislike. Karras said he would
purposely come down on the opponents foot with his hand and
then they would launch forward at the guys leg.
Rick Brusuelas
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> about speed, not hitting.
I'll bet a few offensive players would take exception to that.
PVM-III
at the top of the list. Seems he had a technique (learned while playing
for a Texas orphanage school) of lifting his shoulder into the offensive
player's chin just as he made contact. Clean hits, but very hard. Knocked
guys out an almost weekly basis.
Personally, the hardest hit I ever seen, and then only on film, was the
one where Frank Gifford got knocked senseless (thus the on-air senility?)
back in the 50's. I forget who did it, maybe Marchetti, but it ended his
season and his career never really recovered ...
Cory M. Wisnia
wrote:
> >My Hitters(in no order);
> >1. Ronnie Lott
> >2. Jack Lambert
> >3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
> >4. Dick Butkus
> >5. Ed Sprinkle
> >
> >- Dan
> >--
>
> What about Mean Joe Greene? And was Karrass up there? (I was too yung
> to see him play)
>
> Eric M.
Let's divide it up by position, since I don't otherwise know how to
judge an LB against a DB--
Starting at DB...can we choose Ronnie Lott *unanimously?* Lott was always
there, willing to "sell out" his body. I can believe there is anybody
close to him, although among the older generation of players, Night
Train would come close. Lott simply goes *through* the player he hits.
Its a zen kinda thing to here him talk about it.
So what about defensive lineman or backers?
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PVM-III
: How about Chuck Bednarik?
Now that you mention it, I think he's the one who pasted Frank Gifford.
If that's the case, he leads the list ...
Chad James Segura
: In article <00984E7A...@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5ea8ma...@vms.csd.mu.edu
: wrote:
: > >My Hitters(in no order);
: > >1. Ronnie Lott
: > >2. Jack Lambert
: > >3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
: > >4. Dick Butkus
: > >5. Ed Sprinkle
: > >
: > >- Dan
: > >--
: >
: > What about Mean Joe Greene? And was Karrass up there? (I was too yung
: > to see him play)
: >
: > Eric M.
: Let's divide it up by position, since I don't otherwise know how to
: judge an LB against a DB--
: Starting at DB...can we choose Ronnie Lott *unanimously?* Lott was always
: there, willing to "sell out" his body. I can believe there is anybody
: close to him, although among the older generation of players, Night
: Train would come close. Lott simply goes *through* the player he hits.
: Its a zen kinda thing to here him talk about it.
: So what about defensive lineman or backers?
What? No one's mentioned Larry Wilson, HOF DB for the Cardinals in the
60's. No. 1 DB, if not no. 1 overall.
Chad
PVM-III
: LT could hit. . . remember Tehismann, for Pete's sake? Also, in a meaningless
: late season game against New Orleans one year, he completely obliterated a
: Saint lineman on a block after an interception.
necessarily mean you are a hard hitter. Things like Theisman and McCallum
don't happen because of someone delivering "slobber knockers", they
happen because guys fall the wrong way and limbs get bent in directions
they weren't designed to bend.
John P. Gloria
Adriene comes to mind as one of the biggest "hitters"! :)
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If anyone wants to catch the Saturday rerun, Chuck Bednarik was
featured in the "Where are they now" segment on Inside the NFL (HBO).
He WAS the one that thumped Frank Gifford. Now if only he
would do the same to Cathy Lee.
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>>My Hitters(in no order);
>>1. Ronnie Lott
>>2. Jack Lambert
>>3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
>>4. Dick Butkus
>>5. Ed Sprinkle
>What about Mean Joe Greene? And was Karrass up there? (I was too yung
>to see him play)
How about the game Mean Joe Greene spat on Dick Butkus and the Butkus did not
say or do a thing about it? I would not put Karrass in it but Deacon Jones
and his famous head slap would IMO.
Add Ray Nitschke, Sam Huff and for sure Bednarik the guy who put Frank Gifford
out of football for a whole year with a hit in 1960, and he was a really good
two way player at C & LB too.
Larry Wilson, S 1960-72 on the Cards is on the ALL NFL 75 year team was the
guy who wrote the book on tough DBs, and he was only 190 lbs but according to
many including All Time QB Bobby Layne, "he may have been the toughest guy
pound-for-pound, who ever played this game." In is book 'Instant Replay' Jerry
Kramer said of Wilson, "the finest football player in the NFL".
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aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) wrote:
Back in the 1930's there was a player named Sammy Baugh, who was probably
the greatest quarterback in NFL history.
Baugh played both ways, and on defense he was a safty. Legand has it he
was the hardest hitter of his day and put many men in the hospital.
Baugh was a big contrast to wimpy quarterbacks of today, such as Dan Fouts.
Eric Richard
can remember, but one player I can rememeber having an enormously powerful
hit was Stacey Toran. I can rememeber a game where he came running upfield
towards a pile of lots of players and literally moved the whole pile several
feet back. He was really amazing. For the Raider's sake (and of course on
a personal level) it is a tragedy that he died in a fluke automobile accident.
I think he was a real up and coming player.
-Eric Richard
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The late Don Rodgers was a punisher at FS....but I'd have to go with BUTKUS!
This guy hurt people, and enjoyed doing it.
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errol labosky
: wrote:
What about Dexter Manley? Many Cowboys fans should remember that Danny
White never played the same after the hit he took from Dexter. Despite
what anyone may have to say about his reading ability, Dexter Manley
was, without a doubt, one of the most feared lineman in the NFL.
Errol
5ea8ma...@vms.csd.mu.edu
HHas anybody mentioned Atwater yet? Remember the famous Monday Night
Okoye blow? Eric M.
Mstokes
wrote:
> Wrong again Spanky......The bottle and pills he "hit" dont count.
>
> BTW-what does ws mean? It means you need to use a spell checker.
You can call me names and whine/bitch/moan all you want, but you can't
change the facts boy. Tatum WAS a hitter ....learn it BOY!!!
IWANSKI JOSEPH S
>Starting at DB...can we choose Ronnie Lott *unanimously?* Lott was always
>there, willing to "sell out" his body. I can believe there is anybody
>close to him, although among the older generation of players, Night
>Train would come close. Lott simply goes *through* the player he hits.
>Its a zen kinda thing to here him talk about it.
I dunno about including Lott there. You'd have to run that one by former
Giant TE Mark Bavaro, who used to make a habit of carrying Lott around with him
for whopping yardage. Bavaro aside though, Lott is one tough player.
And just to put a different point of view on this thread, I'd have to
include Earl Campbell on the "hardest hitters" list, because there were
many times in Earl's short career that you'd watch him just *DESTROY*
defensive players so badly by running *THROUGH* and OVER them that you'd
practically weep!
PVM-III
: One player that no one else has mentioned but deserves to be is
: "The Hammer," (Earl Williamson??) if for no other reason than his
: unique hitting style.
his life (SBI) the Packers knocked him cold early in the game. He didn't
return ...
PVM-III
:
: Baugh was a big contrast to wimpy quarterbacks of today, such as Dan Fouts.
Do you actually remember seeing Fouts play, or are you just casting flame
bait?
PVM-III
: And just to put a different point of view on this thread, I'd have to
: include Earl Campbell on the "hardest hitters" list, because there were
: many times in Earl's short career that you'd watch him just *DESTROY*
: defensive players so badly by running *THROUGH* and OVER them that you'd
: practically weep!
life that when I remember him it's like remembering your first love. I
get a faraway misty-eyed look ...
Stephen Y. Chang
: lkjai wrote:
: :
: : Baugh was a big contrast to wimpy quarterbacks of today, such as Dan Fouts.
No one should dare to call Zeus a wimp! I would tread lightly for fear of
repraisals by the gods after making such a comment!
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Keith Glasson
: I got into a discussion the other day with some friends about the biggest
: hitters in NFL history. Names like Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, L.T., and
: Chuck Cecil were thrown around. Does anyone have a case for "their"
: biggest hitter in NFL history?
: Aaron
I don't know about all-time, but some of the players I've
had the pleasure of seeing put a big lick on others:
Chuck Bednarik
Ronnie Lott
Dick Butkus
Jack Tatum (yeah, yeah, but he DID hit hard)
Dennis Smith
and a couple of guys not normally associated with punishing
hits:
Earl Campbell
Bo Jackson
There are many more, on both sides of the ball. No way to
name them all.
-Keith
ALN
>From: jpg...@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
>Subject: Re: Biggest Hitters in NFL History
>Date: 24 Sep 1994 03:38:59 GMT
>In article 230994...@s213.magill.haverford.edu, aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) writes:
>>I got into a discussion the other day with some friends about the biggest
>>hitters in NFL history. Names like Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, L.T., and
>>Chuck Cecil were thrown around. Does anyone have a case for "their"
>>biggest hitter in NFL history?
>>
>>Aaron
>Adriene comes to mind as one of the biggest "hitters"! :)
Dont confuse a hit with a *SLAP*!!!! Are you asking for ANOTHER
spanking? ;-)
BTW: Who is the guy who used to throw that Nasty shoulder check on guys?
I watched a special or somthing on ESPN and his guy layed out a couple
people each game! He wasnt a big guy, kind of like a Chuck Cecil type.
I think from the 50's era?
anyone know who I'm talking about?
ALN
PVM-III
: BTW: Who is the guy who used to throw that Nasty shoulder check on guys?
: I watched a special or somthing on ESPN and his guy layed out a couple
: people each game! He wasnt a big guy, kind of like a Chuck Cecil type.
: I think from the 50's era?
: anyone know who I'm talking about?
the 2nd message in this thread ...
David Andrew Hobson
>HHas anybody mentioned Atwater yet? Remember the famous Monday Night
>Okoye blow? Eric M.
Hmm, I didn't think they could show stuff like that on network TV.
--Dave
David Andrew Hobson
>I dunno about including Lott there. You'd have to run that one by former
>Giant TE Mark Bavaro, who used to make a habit of carrying Lott around with him
>for whopping yardage. Bavaro aside though, Lott is one tough player.
Huh? Did Lott really play that poorly against Bavaro? I seem to
remember Lott doing a pretty impressive number against him during the
1990 MNF game, some passes defended and a lot of hard hits. Apart from
that '86 game, I really don't remember Bavaro being that much of a thorn
in Lott's side. It's pretty short-sighted to say Lott shouldn't be
included in a list of football's all-time hardest hitters on the basis
of one misssed tackle...I think some of his other hits (Ickey Woods in
SB XXIII, '90 MNF game vs. Saints, etc.) make him impossible to exclude.
--Dave
ALN
>From: pvm...@earth.execpc.com (PVM-III)
>Subject: Re: Biggest Hitters in NFL History
oops, sorry I missed ya!
YEAH! Thats the guy! And from the footage they showed of this guy,
he's got to be one of the biggest hitters of all time for sure.
Is that shoulder stunt of his LEGAL?
Chuck Cecil poster: See what you hit!
49ers
Better yet...who cares? He was a Raider,therefore he was a loser
BOY? I got yer boy hanging
George Allen
In article <dhalem.7...@math.uci.edu> dha...@math.uci.edu (Dan Halem)
writes:
> aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) writes:
>
> Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was all
> about speed, not hitting.
>I'll bet a few offensive players would take exception to that.
I'd have to agree. I can remember the Lynn Swann hits and the Sammy
White hits that Tatum administered.
Not to mention he's one of the few men that I ever saw smaller than
Earl Campbell to take him on high and not get completely ran over.
1. Tatum
2. Lott
3. Butkus
4. Singeltary
5. Earl Campbell
6. Mean Joe
Satish Nair
pvm...@earth.execpc.com (PVM-III) writes:
>
>Personally, the hardest hit I ever seen, and then only on film, was the
>one where Frank Gifford got knocked senseless (thus the on-air senility?)
>back in the 50's. I forget who did it, maybe Marchetti, but it ended his
>season and his career never really recovered ...
Nope, it was "Concrete Charlie" the last of the great 2 way players
(Chuck Bednarick). He was interviewed a while back and they did a shot
of his hands, all mangled and twisted from when he was in the war.
satish nair
giants
Satish Nair
>
>What about Dexter Manley? Many Cowboys fans should remember that Danny
>White never played the same after the hit he took from Dexter. Despite
>what anyone may have to say about his reading ability, Dexter Manley
>was, without a doubt, one of the most feared lineman in the NFL.
>
Most Cowboys fans (or whatever...) won't remember this because it
wasn't Dexter that ended Danny White's career. During a game against
the Giants, Carl Banks hit White and he hurt his hand... after that,
he just never recovered.
satish nair
Ric Wilson
I'm definitely not a Bronoc fan, but I would have to put Atwater on this list. He hits very, very hard.
PVM-III
: >Hardy Brown.
:
: YEAH! Thats the guy! And from the footage they showed of this guy,
: he's got to be one of the biggest hitters of all time for sure.
: Is that shoulder stunt of his LEGAL?
Mstokes
wrote:
>
> BOY? I got yer boy hanging
Your're so sad...you have my pitty.
errol labosky
: In article <362iu4$n...@chaos.dac.neu.edu>
: satish nair
Satish,
You are right, the hit did not end White's career, but his stats sure as
hell went downhill after that NFC championship game. He was never the
same after the Manley hit.
Errol
j...@ntrs.com
> What about Donnie Shell? I can still see some of his crushing blows on
> Earl Campbell.
>
>>
>> >My Hitters(in no order);
>> >1. Ronnie Lott
>> >2. Jack Lambert
>> >3. Dick 'Night Train' Lane
>> >4. Dick Butkus
>> >5. Ed Sprinkle
>> >
>> >- Dan
>> >--
>>
>> What about Mean Joe Greene? And was Karrass up there? (I was too yung
>> to see him play)
>>
What about "They call me Assain" Jack Tatum. There was a Chicago Bear
saftey named Doug Plank that could deliver a good hit also.
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: In article <dhalem.7...@math.uci.edu> dha...@math.uci.edu (Dan Halem)
: writes:
: > aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) writes:
: >
: > Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was all
: > about speed, not hitting.
:
: >I'll bet a few offensive players would take exception to that.
:
: I'd have to agree. I can remember the Lynn Swann hits and the Sammy
: White hits that Tatum administered.
:
: Not to mention he's one of the few men that I ever saw smaller than
: Earl Campbell to take him on high and not get completely ran over.
For his size Tatum has got to be at the top ... George Atkinson was
the cheap shot artist, not Tatum.
-Larry Edwards
Gerry Krupka
top collision of the century:
Lott vs. Campbell - did it ever happen ?
just as Aaron had quick wrists in baseball,
Lott has some weird ability to snap his shoulder
in a manner to transfer energy to an all absorbing ball carrier.
Complete deceleration occurs immediately.
As far as devastating hitters out of the backfield,
I nominate Keith Byers.
He has cancelled the likes of Wilber Marshall
and Carl Banks to name a few (p.s. these guys are not small
nor do they carry much fat).
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- well, someone wrote this ...
>>: include Earl Campbell on the "hardest hitters" list, because there were
>>: many times in Earl's short career that you'd watch him just *DESTROY*
>>: defensive players so badly by running *THROUGH* and OVER them that you'd
>>: practically weep!
I have a friend who was a defensive back for the Oilers and followed
Bum Phillips to the Saints. Of course, Ive asking him about who
he played against and stuff. I distinctly remember him saying
that *nothing* scared him more than seeing Earl come up his sideline.
Mark
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In article <1994Sep24.0...@almserv.uucp>, g8uwft@poseidon(William
F. Tucker) writes:
>In article <dhalem.7...@math.uci.edu> dha...@math.uci.edu (Dan Halem)
>writes:
>> aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) writes:
>>
>> Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was
all
>> about speed, not hitting.
>
>I'll bet a few offensive players would take exception to that.
C. Douglas Baker
Mark Aurit <mau...@world.nad.northrop.com> wrote:
>>PVM-III <pvm...@earth.execpc.com> wrote:
> - well, someone wrote this ...
>>>: include Earl Campbell on the "hardest hitters" list, because there were
>>>: many times in Earl's short career that you'd watch him just *DESTROY*
>>>: defensive players so badly by running *THROUGH* and OVER them that you'd
>>>: practically weep!
>
>
>I have a friend who was a defensive back for the Oilers and followed
>Bum Phillips to the Saints. Of course, Ive asking him about who
>he played against and stuff. I distinctly remember him saying
>that *nothing* scared him more than seeing Earl come up his sideline.
>
One of the biggest collisions I have ever seen in the NFL was several
, several years ago, so I don't remember the date...but it involved
Earl Campbell playing for the Saints and Jack Tatum, at the end of his
career, playing for the Oilers. Tatum met Campbell at the goalline and
Campbell actually went BACKWARD!, the first time I had ever seen that.
But, alas, Tatum's victory was pyrrhic, Campbell stumbled forward for the
TD after regaining his balance. He didn't even go down!
Doug Baker
cba...@wam.umd.edu
Ben Zellner
> One of the biggest collisions I have ever seen in the NFL was several
> , several years ago, so I don't remember the date...but it involved
> Earl Campbell playing for the Saints and Jack Tatum, at the end of his
> career, playing for the Oilers. Tatum met Campbell at the goalline and
> Campbell actually went BACKWARD!, the first time I had ever seen that.
> But, alas, Tatum's victory was pyrrhic, Campbell stumbled forward for the
> TD after regaining his balance. He didn't even go down!
>
> Doug Baker
That nicely illustrates the difference between hard hitting and effective
hitting. I remember when Larry Czsonka was the terror of defensive backs
everywhere, and in the Super Bowl against Dallas. Czsonka came at the
line of scrimmage running free with a full head of steam, and Leroy Jordan
met him one-on-one. Czsonka didn't gain a millimeter. Dallas went on to
win the game 21-3.
Ben
Hayward Singletary
>
> One of the biggest collisions I have ever seen in the NFL was several
> , several years ago, so I don't remember the date...but it involved
> Earl Campbell playing for the Saints and Jack Tatum, at the end of his
> career, playing for the Oilers. Tatum met Campbell at the goalline and
> Campbell actually went BACKWARD!, the first time I had ever seen that.
> But, alas, Tatum's victory was pyrrhic, Campbell stumbled forward for the
> TD after regaining his balance. He didn't even go down!
>
> Doug Baker
> cba...@wam.umd.edu
>
I must correct you on that one. Earl did go down. In fact that was the
first time I saw Earl hurt - he was helped off the field after that play.
I still talk about that hit to anyone who gives me a chance. :-)
Let me add a little of what brings a smile to my face: Earl was going to
score no matter what .. He hits the hole .. Jack comes flying in and hits
the brickwall - he goes flying out of the TV picture back at 45 deg. :-) ..
Earl is stopped cold in his tracks (it seems that he went back) he then
stumbles into the endzone for the TD. He trys to get up but went back down.
That collision is IT!! 2 of my favorite players ..
Thanks for letting me talk about that again :-)
Hayward L. Singletary
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Gil
Supposedly, he went through many helmets in the course of a season. Kind
of makes you wonder how hard of a hitter he was if he could do that.
Anyonw know if Lott or any of the others cracked their helmits a lot ?
PVM-III
: I have a friend who was a defensive back for the Oilers and followed
: Bum Phillips to the Saints. Of course, Ive asking him about who
: he played against and stuff. I distinctly remember him saying
: that *nothing* scared him more than seeing Earl come up his sideline.
Gary Everling
mentioned, sorry. I just saw this string.
Gary
Seth Lively
>What about Turner from Cleveland, Rod Woodson ? If these guys were already
>mentioned, sorry. I just saw this string.
>
Chris Mottola
the face. Knee shots. A true piece of shit.
str...@fnalv.fnal.gov
> In article <BM0VqoM....@delphi.com> Chris Mottola <runs...@delphi.com> writes:
>>Andre "Muddy" Waters. Scumbag. Hits players away from the play. Forearms to
>>the face. Knee shots. A true piece of shit.
>
Hands down number one-DICK BUTKUS...OUCH!!!
Hands down number two-WALTER PAYTON...YES!!Walter use to have a saying
"if you've got the ball and you are coming at somebody full speed,then
the ball carrier should deliver the hit!!YIKES!!!
He said delivering hits instead of taking them lengthend his life in the NFL
by years.
Ed J
SuperFan
Bears Man!
GREG GEYER
Gigglberger) wrote:
>
> Don't forget: Ronnie Lott. Steve Atwater. Jack(sp?) Tatum
Or Chuck Cecil. I just saw something on Sportscenter about how non-sports
fans might associate football w/violence (in regards to picking jurors for
OJ Simpson) and the two clips they showed were both vicious Chuck
Cecil hits. That boy could lay the lumber.
Plus he was a U. of Arizona product, that makes him twice as nice...:)
Greg
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Hey Ed J,
Lets not forget Doug Plank (author of the 46 defense) and Gary Fencik.
2 safeties that would knock someones head off and not bother to help them
back up like todays wimpy players.... Bring back Gary and Doug
Joe Bear Fan
Seth Lively
>the face. Knee shots. A true piece of shit.
Chuck Cecil. Once hit someone so hard he broke his own neck.
Scott Reeve
|> >Andre "Muddy" Waters. Scumbag. Hits players away from the play. Forearms to
|> >the face. Knee shots. A true piece of shit.
Reminds me of Lyle Alzado ripping of Chris Ward's helmet and throwing
it as hard as he could as his head.
If I remember correcly, he didn't even get a penalty for it!
Anybody else remember this?
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GREG GEYER <GGE...@LAN.MCL.BDM.COM> wrote:
>In article <3849r4$m...@pandora.sdsu.edu>, gigg...@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Alex
>Gigglberger) wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't forget: Ronnie Lott. Steve Atwater. Jack(sp?) Tatum
>
>Or Chuck Cecil. I just saw something on Sportscenter about how non-sports
Has everyone forgotten the devastation that was Night Train Lane? And,
in terms of current big hitters, what about Bill Bates? Not only does he
come up big, but he usually comes up hitting HARD!! Here's a few more
for the list: Deacon Jones, Jack Lambert, Randy White. Now those guys
were hitters!
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AdrianD744
(5ea8ma...@vms.csd.mu.edu) writes:
>In article <dhalem.7...@math.uci.edu> dha...@math.uci.edu (Dan
Halem)
>writes:
>> aber...@haverford.edu (Aaron Bernstein) writes:
>>
>> Tatum didn't hit that hard, he just took lots of cheap shots. L.T. was
all
>> about speed, not hitting.
>
>I'll bet a few offensive players would take exception to that.
>HHas anybody mentioned Atwater yet? Remember the famous Monday >Night
>Okoye blow? Eric M.
Yes, I do. However, you remember Tatum's book, "They Call Me Assassin"?
Cheap shots or not, Tatum was awesome. He should have been banned
well in advance of that hit on Stingley. Hitting hard is one thing,
trying to kill or maim is another.
Shannon R. Woodrome
guy looked like a man playing against boys.
Shannon R. Woodrome
srwo...@cuok.cameron.edu
Charles L. Spirrison
>Hands down number one-DICK BUTKUS...OUCH!!!
>Hands down number two-WALTER PAYTON...YES!!Walter use to have a saying
>"if you've got the ball and you are coming at somebody full speed,then
>the ball carrier should deliver the hit!!YIKES!!!
>He said delivering hits instead of taking them lengthend his life in the NFL
>by years.
>Ed J
>SuperFan
>Bears Man!
O.K. Ed, so where does Ditka fit in here? He's got to be number
two, hands down. He delivered brutal punishment during his
TE playing days.
McMahom delivered incredible hits, even if they were delivered
on the sidelines, with those head-butts -- which qualifies him
as the #3 hitter in NFL history.
#4? remember da fridge in da Bowl? There was an RB who hit so
hard dat da dome shook!
#5 goes to MJ, who never played in the NFL, but who would have
been the #1 hitting NFL TE had he played. He gets the #5 spot
on potential.
Payton would be at number six, except that da coach, Ditka, holds
#6 as the hardest hitting coach in NFL history (#2 was for his
TE career). Ditka could knock Buddy Ryan into tomorrow....
Payton, #7.
cls
John DiMarzio
Yeah Campbell put a lick on people. The hardest hit I ever saw on Earl
was inflicted by Donnie Shell (Pitt.)-- who should also be considered
as one of the hardest hitters ever.
JD
Alex Gigglberger
Don't forget: Ronnie Lott. Steve Atwater. Jack(sp?) Tatum
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territory. Here's my list, and it's quite subjective and incom-
plete.
Bronko Nagurski
Ed Sprinkle
Chuck Bednarik
Gino Marchetti
Jim Brown
Deacon Jones
Dick Butkus
Jack (The Assassin) Tatum
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Ronnie Lott
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a good solid hit, as clean as they come.
--peace (two fingers)
Charles L. Spirrison
>} Some of the hardest hits I have seen came from Earl Campbell. Man that
>} guy looked like a man playing against boys.
>}
a man among boys in the NFL --- just imagine how he looked against
high school players! (amazing and almost unfair)
I seem to remember Campbell's college coach (must have been D. Royal)
saying that Campbell was physically ready to play in the NFL when
Campbell was 18 years old.
>} Shannon R. Woodrome
>} srwo...@cuok.cameron.edu
Shannon Kaye Leach
: In article <3849r4$m...@pandora.sdsu.edu>, gigg...@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Alex
: Gigglberger) wrote:
: >
: > Don't forget: Ronnie Lott. Steve Atwater. Jack(sp?) Tatum
: Or Chuck Cecil. I just saw something on Sportscenter about how non-sports
: fans might associate football w/violence (in regards to picking jurors for
: OJ Simpson) and the two clips they showed were both vicious Chuck
: Cecil hits. That boy could lay the lumber.
: Plus he was a U. of Arizona product, that makes him twice as nice...:)
Yeah, but where is he now that the Cards have cut his dirty ass?
: Greg