Spiking the ball after a touchdown
John Stone
ball in the endzone after a touchdown? I'm sure they banned the
celebrations that players did but I thought that spiking was outlawed
also. Maybe not, anyway I remember some talk about putting an end to
spiking the ball.
Mark Loy
IIRC, John Riggins had the best idea concerning endzone celebrations. He
said something to the effect that when he scored he didn't do anything
special as he wanted to give the impression that it wasn't any big
deal--it was something that he did often enough to make celebrating the
commonplace rather silly.
I like this.
Too bad more people can't adopt the same philosophy.
ML
Jerome Jahnke
(Mark Loy) wrote:
Jus watch Barry Sanders...
Jer,
Fred Goodwin, CMA
Ex-Houston Oiler great (and Longhorn HOFer) Earl Campbell tells the story of a
time he celebrated too much after a TD (either JHS or HS), and his father was
the one who told him to "act like you've been there before".
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Aidan Rogers
> Did the NFL institute a rule a few years ago banning the spiking of the
> ball in the endzone after a touchdown? I'm sure they banned the
> celebrations that players did but I thought that spiking was outlawed
> also. Maybe not, anyway I remember some talk about putting an end to
> spiking the ball.
To actually answer the question, yes they did institute a rule about spiking
the ball. I've no idea which players were involved, but it was because of
an incident where one player scored a touch down whilst being pursued by a
defender, and then spiked the ball right beside the guys face (he was lying in
the endzone after making a diving tackle attempt). The defender instantly got
up and went for the guy who had scored. I think this happened more than once
in the same season with different teams, and players were goading and taunting
their opposition with silly celebrations, so they banned celebrating.
I think it was the 92 season, when the Skins won the superbowl. People
complained too much, so they ditched the rule, but said that players would
be penalised for 'excessive celebration'.
Aidan
Terry May
>To actually answer the question, yes they did institute a rule about spiking
>the ball. I've no idea which players were involved, but it was because of
>an incident where one player scored a touch down whilst being pursued by a
>defender, and then spiked the ball right beside the guys face (he was lying in
>the endzone after making a diving tackle attempt). The defender instantly got
>up and went for the guy who had scored. I think this happened more than once
>in the same season with different teams, and players were goading and taunting
>their opposition with silly celebrations, so they banned celebrating.
Me thinks you dreamed this up. Spiking the ball near a players face
has always been and remains a penalty, but it has nothing to do with
any celebration penalty. It's unsportsmanlike conduct. Dale Carter
got called for that after an INT last year.
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Philip Delaquess
> Me thinks you dreamed this up. Spiking the ball near a players face
> has always been and remains a penalty, but it has nothing to do with
> any celebration penalty. It's unsportsmanlike conduct. Dale Carter
> got called for that after an INT last year.
I'm with Terry on this one. I can't find anything about spiking the ball or any
other kind of endzone celebration in the official rules. It's a judgement call by
the ref as to when it crosses the line into unsportsmanlike conduct.
> Multitasking: Start download; grab a beer; watch some football.
<laugh> I'm with Terry on this one too!
Aidan Rogers
> the ball. I've no idea which players were involved, but it was because of
> an incident where one player scored a touch down whilst being pursued by a
> defender, and then spiked the ball right beside the guys face (he was lying in
> the endzone after making a diving tackle attempt). The defender instantly got
> up and went for the guy who had scored. I think this happened more than once
> in the same season with different teams, and players were goading and taunting
> their opposition with silly celebrations, so they banned celebrating.
> I think it was the 92 season, when the Skins won the superbowl. People
> complained too much, so they ditched the rule, but said that players would
> be penalised for 'excessive celebration'.
Are you sure they didn't introduce a rule like this for one season, because I
seem to remember a whole lot of bitching by the commentators and players that
they weren't allowed to celebrate like they wanted to?
It is quite possible I dreamed this up, but I thought they got really strict
for one season about celebrating, and that quite a few people got called for
spiking.
Sorry if I'm mal-informed, but then I again I am writing whilst having the flu.
Aidan
Terry May
>Are you sure they didn't introduce a rule like this for one season, because I
>seem to remember a whole lot of bitching by the commentators and players that
>they weren't allowed to celebrate like they wanted to?
Not only do I not remember any such rule, I don't remember even a
SINGLE complaint about spiking the football. That is, except when it
was clearly directed toward another player (or official), and that's
always been covered by unsportsmanlike conduct, and remains so.
>It is quite possible I dreamed this up, but I thought they got really strict
>for one season about celebrating, and that quite a few people got called for
>spiking.
Nope, spiking was never a problem with the celebration rule. Spiking
was considered a spontaneous act of celebrating a TD, and the rule
allowed for that. What they wanted to get rid of was the rehearsed,
carefully choreographed endzone celebrations.
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John Stone
I think that endzone celebration was usually the guys standing in
a circle and jumping up in the air and touching hands. I guess it
was sort of rubbing it in but I didn't think it was that big a deal.
BTW does anyone remember Mark Gastenau (sp?) of the New York Jets
and his famous "Sack Dance"?
John S.
Aidan Rogers
Aidan
John Stone
>
> In article <90896003...@sparc.tibus.net> Aidan Rogers <ai...@salvador.blackstar.co.uk> writes:
> >From: Aidan Rogers <ai...@salvador.blackstar.co.uk>
> >Subject: Re: Spiking the ball after a touchdown
> >Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:54:29 GMT
>
> >> To actually answer the question, yes they did institute a rule about spiking
> >> the ball. I've no idea which players were involved, but it was because of
> >> an incident where one player scored a touch down whilst being pursued by a
> >> defender, and then spiked the ball right beside the guys face (he was lying
> >in
> >> the endzone after making a diving tackle attempt). The defender instantly
> >got
> >> up and went for the guy who had scored. I think this happened more than once
> >> in the same season with different teams, and players were goading and
> >taunting
> >> their opposition with silly celebrations, so they banned celebrating.
>
> >> I think it was the 92 season, when the Skins won the superbowl. People
> >> complained too much, so they ditched the rule, but said that players would
> >> be penalised for 'excessive celebration'.
>
> >seem to remember a whole lot of bitching by the commentators and players that
> >they weren't allowed to celebrate like they wanted to?
>
> >for one season about celebrating, and that quite a few people got called for
> >spiking.
>
> >flu.
>
> >Aidan
>
> I'm lucky. The sport ain't that big here.
>
> But, I do remember some program years ago where they were explaining the
> basics of football and it had some thing about the endzone celebrations.
> basically what it came down to was that players began by throwing the ball
> into the crowd after a touchdown, the officials, of course, could never get
> the balls back, so they banned throwing the ball in the air after a
> touchdown. So, the players would then spike the ball, bouncing it into the
> crowd. Not againest the rules, but stillhaving the same effect. Therefore
> this was banned also.
>
> How do you like them apples?
These days the players (especially the Green Bay Packers) run right into
the stands to get padded on the back by the fans.
J.D. Frankland
> a circle and jumping up in the air and touching hands. I guess it
> was sort of rubbing it in but I didn't think it was that big a deal.
Ahhh, the Fun Bunch. Those were the days...
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Torrance, California, USA
(a suffering Skins fan)
JARED
John VanSickle
>
> Did the NFL institute a rule a few years ago banning the spiking of
> the ball in the endzone after a touchdown? I'm sure they banned the
> celebrations that players did but I thought that spiking was outlawed
> also. Maybe not, anyway I remember some talk about putting an end to
> spiking the ball.
I recall a couple incidents in the '70s where the player running into
the endzone with the ball spiked it on the one-foot line. For some
strange reason the Detroit Lions sticks in my memory in connection
with this incident (although that could be only because I grew up in
the Detroit area).
Regards,
John