Thurman quit the game
Dan Kary
>
> Thurman Thomas has the physical abilities that rival anyone in
> professional sports, but NOT the heart, IMHO.
His behavior was a disgrace. If Hall of Fame voters have any memory
at all he will never get in. His stats don't mean a thing if he
gets to the big game and quits.
> Am I being unfair with this?
No.
Dan Kary
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"And that, my liege, is how we know the earth to be banana shaped."
john.fijolek
>
>
> The Bills are probably one of the finest football teams
> to ever step on the football field, but they'll never be
> considered up there, until they win the big dance.
>
>
> But they had a chance to win this one. They were only down
> a touchdown midway through the third quarter. It was anyone's
> game. True, Thomas had fumbled two times, but he's a competitor,
> right?
>
All you had to do was look across at the other sideline and see the
trainer working on Smiths' back and shoulder between plays. He was
hurting but he was right back in it because he is a competitor.
Did anyone see Thomas trying to work out his supposed cramps? Where
was the trainer?
>
> So what did Thurman Thomas do? Did he rally his teammates? Did
> he go up to Levy and yell, "Give me the ball, coach!" Did he lead
> his team by example, like a perennial all-pro should?
>
This is where I think Levy is lacking as a coach. He just accepts
Thurman has an attitude problem and doesn't try to light a fire under
him or force him to play on anyway. Cramps or no cramps, what are you
saving it for? Hawaii?
> No. He shook his head. He looked at the ground. He swore
> and whined. He ignored Kelly and other teammates who tried to get
> his head back on straight. He sat on the bench with his head in
> his hands instead of supporting his teammates who were playing.
>
Dickerson and Payton were known to pout when things didn't go their
way, but you're right that was probably the sorriest exhibition of
team spirit I have ever seen.
> Thurman Thomas has the physical abilities that rival anyone in
> professional sports, but NOT the heart, IMHO. I'll take a team of
> Steve Taskers over a team of Thurman Thomas's, any day.
>
> Am I being unfair with this?
>
Nope.
> --Erik
Jack
ch...@slug.ssc.gov
>br...@eecs.nwu.edu (Erik Brown) writes:
>>
>> Thurman Thomas has the physical abilities that rival anyone in
>> professional sports, but NOT the heart, IMHO.
>
>His behavior was a disgrace. If Hall of Fame voters have any memory
>at all he will never get in. His stats don't mean a thing if he
>gets to the big game and quits.
I heard he said on TV that he would pay no respect to the HOF if
his HOF status was judged on his Super Bowls performance. Well,
I guess all he cares is his perfomance though.
>
>> Am I being unfair with this?
>
>No.
I agree.
Floyd Goodrich
>>His behavior was a disgrace. If Hall of Fame voters have any memory
>>at all he will never get in. His stats don't mean a thing if he
>>gets to the big game and quits.
>
>I heard he said on TV that he would pay no respect to the HOF if
>his HOF status was judged on his Super Bowls performance. Well,
>I guess all he cares is his perfomance though.
Did one of the reporters bait him with this question or something? I find
it hard to believe that he would talk about the HOF after (yet another)
SB loss instead of talking the game and the not so minor role he played in the
outcome. Did I miss the question, or is he spouting off about the HOF in
the wrong place at the wrong time?
Floyd Goodrich
flo...@cayman.amd.com
Brad Cote
>I can think of four occasions where Thomas did not show up to play
>in the big games. The pass that was right in his hands in the
>endzone that would have beaten the Browns in the 1988 or 89 playoffs,
I think you are confusing Thomas with another Buffalo running back:
Ronnie Harmon. He's the one that dropped that pass that would have put
Buffalo into it's first Super Bowl. The fans (and coaches) were so
ticked about it they traded him to San Diego.
THANK-YOU! THANK-YOU! THANK-YOU!!!!
Ronnie Harmon has been voted team MVP (by his teamates) 2 out of the 4
years he has been a Charger. He is also a restricted free agent. The
best third down back in the league. Good work ethic and incredible
athletic ability. And this is on a team with Butts and Means as the
featured running backs.
As good as Kenneth Davis is, how much better would the Bills be with
Harmon on the team? Their Super Bowl record would probably not be 0-4.
Brad Cote'
>--Erik
Eriks A. Ziemelis (eazy)
> Dickerson and Payton were known to pout when things didn't go their
> way, but you're right that was probably the sorriest exhibition of
> team spirit I have ever seen.
Being a Bear fan all my life, Payton, aside from being upset about William
Perry getting to score the Super Bowl touchdown instead of him, I can't
recall Walter pouting about anything. The guy played even when he was
hurt (I seem to recall that he only missed one game his entire career)
and until just this season held the Bear record for most consecutive
games.
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Eriks A. Ziemelis (eazy) <ea...@hp7020.stortek.com> wrote:
>
>Being a Bear fan all my life, Payton, aside from being upset about William
>Perry getting to score the Super Bowl touchdown instead of him, I can't
>recall Walter pouting about anything. The guy played even when he was
>hurt (I seem to recall that he only missed one game his entire career)
>and until just this season held the Bear record for most consecutive
>games.
How about Payton's last game with the Bears in the regular season which
determined that the Bears would not be going to the playoffs (if memory
serves)? Payton sits with his head in his hands on the bench, long
after other team members have left the field. He knows the cameras
are all on him, filming the great legend's final moment in the
final game of his career. He sits there not for just a moment, but a
good minute of so. Finally, he gets up, slowly, a crushed man, and
walks "that long mile" to the locker room, head hung, all too oblivious
to the dozens of cameras around him. Worthy of an academy award,
Scarlett O'hara step aside!
Although I realize this pouting was not in reaction to a failed play of any
sort, still it confirms the earlier poster's 's point that Payton
could pout with the best of them.
Greg
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edward.lor
>How about Payton's last game with the Bears in the regular season which
>determined that the Bears would not be going to the playoffs (if memory
>serves)? Payton sits with his head in his hands on the bench, long
>after other team members have left the field. He knows the cameras
>are all on him, filming the great legend's final moment in the
>final game of his career. He sits there not for just a moment, but a
>good minute of so. Finally, he gets up, slowly, a crushed man, and
>walks "that long mile" to the locker room, head hung, all too oblivious
>to the dozens of cameras around him. Worthy of an academy award,
>Scarlett O'hara step aside!
That's not a regular season game. That's a playoff game. It's
a 21-17 loss to the Redskins. That's Payton's last game in his
career. The Bears' last play was a screen pass from McMahon to
Payton, Payton was tackled one yard short of the first down marker.
The Bears turned the ball over on downs. As Chris Berman said
(paraphased):
After 16000 yards, Walter came up one yard short in the last
play of his career.
Then he sat dejectedly on the bench for a few minutes, when the
camera picked him up.
--
Edward Lor
l...@cbnewsk.att.com
Michael Cook
>In article <CKJMH...@eecs.nwu.edu>, br...@eecs.nwu.edu (Erik Brown) writes:
>> [stuff about Thurman Thomas pouting]
>> Thurman Thomas has the physical abilities that rival anyone in
>> professional sports, but NOT the heart, IMHO. I'll take a team of
>> Steve Taskers over a team of Thurman Thomas's, any day.
>>
>> Am I being unfair with this?
>>
>Nope.
I agree. On ESPN, Berman criticized Levy for playing Davis in the second half,
but I wasn'r surprised to see it. IMHO, Davis is a quality back that doesn't
get enuff work. I'm not a Bills fan, but if the Chiefs had a shot to sign
either back for the same amount of money, I'd hope they'd take Davis and run.
(literally)
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Ed Mendelssohn
>Neal Anderson is probably a better example of inconsistant play and
>temperment. You are right that Thurman should not be compared to
>Payton, he is not even near that level of excellence.
>
>Jack
>
>
>
Oh, give me a break!! Does the name Jim Brown mean anything to you, or was
he before his time. Payton was a great back, but I don't think he was even
the greatest back in Bears history. I thought Gayle Sares (sp?) was better,
despite not having the career stats due to a relatively short career. But as
far as running the ball, I've NEVER seen anyone make the moves that he did,
and leave defender after defender holding their jock.
Ed Mendelssohn
>>I think that Payton is the greatest running back to ever play the game.
>>Neal Anderson is probably a better example of inconsistant play and
>>temperment. You are right that Thurman should not be compared to
>>Payton, he is not even near that level of excellence.
>>
>>Jack
>>
>>
>>
>
>Oh, give me a break!! Does the name Jim Brown mean anything to you, or was