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Bang

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Jul 9, 2001, 12:32:15 PM7/9/01
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In my league we don't draft just a kicker. We take an entire team and get
the kicker(s), kickoff and punt returners, plus a few extras.
Our Special teams are scored like so...

FGs are 3 except over 50 which gains a 2 point bonus.
XPs are 1
A Punt or Kickoff return TD is 6, and if it is over 50 yds, a 2 point bonus.
(Regardless of who has the ball, so long as it is your team)
Block a FG is 3 points
Return a blocked kick for a TD is 6
Basically, any other way the Special teams scores.. fall on a fumble,
whatever.. if they score a TD, you get 6.. with a 2 point bonus if it is
over 50 yds

But..

A kickoff or punt returned against your special teams is -6 (no distance
bonus)
A FG blocked against you is -3
A blocked kick returned for a score against you is -6

With those rules, so far i like Green Bay. I like Rossum, and no need to
mention why on Longwell. It is also hard to ignore Atlanta. Conversely,
because of Atlanta's threat with Vaughn, I'm leery of other NFC west that
have to play him twice. Losing 6 points because your special teams gives up
a TD can be a backbreaker.
I am interested in the opinions of the group.

~Bang

Matt Opp

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Jul 9, 2001, 1:11:52 PM7/9/01
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I give Tampa Bay as the number one in your league with Baltimore and Green Bay
a notch below them. Tampa Bay is wicked on special team and defensive
touchdowns and have a hell of a kicker. Baltimore has a defense that everyone
knows about and a punt returner in Jermaine Lewis who can be deadly. Stover is
quality and dont let one defensive touchdown fool you, look what they did in
the playoffs with Lewis scoring against Tennessee and Starks against Giants.
Those two are one and two and Green Bay is behind for the reasons u mentioned.
Tennessee Denver New Orleans and yes St Louis is one to look at as well with
their speed and defensive additions along with Jeff Wilkins

Fantasy Football Joint

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Jul 9, 2001, 1:25:24 PM7/9/01
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Green bay is always very good on special teams.
Atlanta plays against too many great KR themselves but with their D, Vaughn
is certain to be busy returning kicks.

After Ron Dixon scored on the Ravens in the Supe, they flashed up a stat
about the Ravens special teams that was real impressive, can't remember what
it was....anyone?

I'd go with GB sure, but Ravens rather than Atlanta


David

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Jul 9, 2001, 1:36:10 PM7/9/01
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Bang <sl...@olg.com> wrote in message
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Bang,

In this context - you should go with the Rams. At kicker, you have a
healthy Jeff Wilkins who is nails on a high-powered offense that is
guaranteed to kick at least 10 games every season in domes (8 in STL, 1 in
ATL and 1 in NO) *plus* usually one other non-divisional game in an away
dome (this year, it's DET). That's 11 games in domes and the closest thing
the Rams play to bad weather is a November 18 date in NE.

In addition, he also generally slams the ball into the end zone for
touchbacks thereby diminishing your back end exposure. There's only one guy
who is renouned for enjoying the benefits of "back end exposure" and we all
know it's the Gu (one really bad 3-win M-Fer who's here to dominate the FF
scene). Yeah, whatever - don't be like him.

In addition, you get Hakim returning punts and Horne returing kickoffs - two
studs with proven explosive capabilities. The only guy to enjoy a setting
with "two capable studs" is "moronic bastard" - but that's in another
context. Given their shitty (but improved) defense and their high-powered
offense - this bodes very well. Go with the Rams here Dawg.

D

CLAYTON GRAY

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:03:52 PM7/9/01
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David <dmic...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> In this context - you should go with the Rams. At kicker, you have a
> healthy Jeff Wilkins who is nails on a high-powered offense that is
> guaranteed to kick at least 10 games every season in domes (8 in STL, 1 in
> ATL and 1 in NO) *plus* usually one other non-divisional game in an away
> dome (this year, it's DET). That's 11 games in domes and the closest
thing
> the Rams play to bad weather is a November 18 date in NE.
>
> In addition, you get Hakim returning punts and Horne returing kickoffs -
two
> studs with proven explosive capabilities. The only guy to enjoy a setting
> with "two capable studs" is "moronic bastard" - but that's in another
> context. Given their shitty (but improved) defense and their high-powered
> offense - this bodes very well. Go with the Rams here Dawg.

I agree with the Rams, but Horne is in Kansas City this year.

--
Clayton
http://www.toughguy.com

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he
will sit in a boat & drink beer all day.


CLAYTON GRAY

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:06:09 PM7/9/01
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Bang <sl...@olg.com> wrote in message
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Haven't thought much about this concept, but it is intriguing to say the
least. I'd almost be tempted to go solely by PK due to the inconsistencies
of special teams scoring, but then again PK scoring is inconsistent in it's
own right.

Just curious, aren't you worried about the kicking situation in Atlanta?
Jake Arians doesn't exactly make my socks roll up and down.

Bang

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Jul 9, 2001, 6:02:42 PM7/9/01
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>
> Just curious, aren't you worried about the kicking situation in Atlanta?
> Jake Arians doesn't exactly make my socks roll up and down.
>


I sure am concerned about that.
Matt made some good points about Baltimore and Tampa, both are solid in the
kicking game, and Baltimore's return units are excellent as well. Tampa, i
do believe, has never in their history returned a kickoff for a TD.
I've always used the dome theory, generally picking my special teams within
the nfc west for that reason alone. Either that or Detroit, Desmond Howard
can be exciting, and they turn the exhaust fans on when their about to kick
the long one..(c; Detroit does have the late season outdoor games in
GB and Chicago, though...
Last year I had Tennessee and even though Del Greco caused me to break not
only my big toe, but also a fairly expensive tv tray, the return teams made
things exciting.

~Bang


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