draft strategies
bar...@hotmail.com
RB TD's and QB passing TD's are weighted equally.
what draft strategy do you use, and how can I alter the fundamentally sound
"RB's first" strategy to get me at least one mid level QB.
Thx,
Sam
Joe Bryant
I'm partial, but I use my Value Based Draft (VBD) strategy to accomplish
what you're asking. Here's the system in detail
http://www.cheatsheets.net/vbdprinciples.htm that I've been evangelizing
since 1996. In a nutshell, it places a value upon each player based on
simple supply and demand and looks at how a player distances himself from
the peers at his position.
We all use it to some degree when we devalue kickers even though they score
a ton of points. The same principle applies to QB's although it's not as
widely used there. The fact of the matter is that you're likely right in
thinking a solid QB can be had later while you grab RBs early. As the
article will detail, it depends a great deal upon your starting lineups and
league size.
Since your league is slanted toward QB's with the scoring system you
mention, it really would be worth your while to make a Value Based Draft
List as described in the article to see how your players start looking.
May surprise you.
Best of luck as you sort through this. In my (admittedly biased) opinion,
correct answers to the questions you're asking are the key to your FF
success.
Joe
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purple haze
I don't like to go into any draft with a pre-set strategy. The first 4
-6 rounds, I try to acquire the 'best available player' approach (using
gut feel rather than stat projections and VBD). Obviously, you need to
be somewhat position conscious, so you don't draft WRs with your first 4
picks. After that, I usually draft based on need, but I still keep an
eye on positions that I am well stocked for bargains (trade bait or
injury protection). I try to go contrary to 'runs', as I feel that
better talent is usually on the board in other positions.
For your specific needs, I would make a list of all the QBs you would be
happy with as your #1. There will probably be some good ones left in
rounds 4-7. This gives you time to grab a couple stud RBs and a WR or
2. Keep an eye out on the other teams, and who they draft. Chances
are, if a team snags a QB early, they will not grab a 2nd for a while
(but not always...). When your list is getting slim, that is the time
to strike.
If you can look over the drafts from prior years, you may be able to get
a read on the tendencies of some of the other owners. This information
can be invaluable in predicting what will happen between your current
pick, and your next one.
Hope this helps.
Rob
Patrick_Boland
bar...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I use "running backs first", but my league is slanted towards QB's.
> RB TD's and QB passing TD's are weighted equally.
>
> what draft strategy do you use, and how can I alter the fundamentally
sound
> "RB's first" strategy to get me at least one mid level QB.
>
> Thx,
> Sam
>
SAM:
I generally use the same approach (85% of the time--the other 15% I
draft the QB).
FIRST: You have to RESIGN yourself to the admission that you are NOT
drafting a high end QB. I hear you SAYING it, but you don't sound
COMFORTABLE with it---you MUST get to that level in order to feel good
about the way the draft is progressing as you get into the 3rd/4th
round before you draft your "mid-level" QB. It's tough to swallow when
you see Favre/Manning/BJohnson/etc etc go in the first 2 rounds, but
you can't be concerned. I pay NO ATTENTION to the names disappearing
off the draft sheets in rounds #1 and #2 if I intend on drafting
RB/RB. I won't be focused on bettering MY team if I do--I'll be
worried about how OTHER owners are bettering THEIR teams, and that
doesn't do anyone a bit of good.
SECOND: You have to list the "mid-level" QBs that you believe will be
available in round #3 or #4--keeping in mind that the best available
one will be your STARTING QB all year!! Now--and this is most
important--you MUST BE CORRECT in determining a quality "mid-level"
QB. Don't lie to yourself and list good QBs as "mid-level"--you'll
only get frustrated when your "list of mid-level QBs" are all but gone
in round #4. Last year I listed FLUTIE and GANNON as my personal
selections for good mid-level QBs, and I was absolutely right (read:
got lucky) on BOTH counts. I can only hope to do as well this year.
THIRD: RELAX!!! Keep in mind that a LOT of dummies are probably in
your league, and will draft mid-level QBs in the first 2 rounds,
leaving a couple decent ones to slip into round #3 or #4!! You'll be
surprised at names that will be there [look at your last year's draft
to see where people went!]
Hope some of that helps--good luck!
Patrick Boland
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Joe Bryant
yourself for ownign a less than star QB. It's easy to have that kid in a
candy store mentality and WANT a star everywhere. Unless it's a very small
league, that's just not too likely to happen.
Good post!
Joe
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Patrick_Boland <patrick...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Doug Drinen
> Great comments Patrick. I agree 100% that it's key to mentally prepare
> yourself for ownign a less than star QB. It's easy to have that kid in a
> candy store mentality and WANT a star everywhere. Unless it's a very small
> league, that's just not too likely to happen.
My general strategy (subject to change in any given year) is to
get my QB in round 6 or so, just before everyone else starts to
take their backup QB.
The QB crop is IMHO so strangely distributed this year that I'm
contemplating doing something crazy: not picking a QB until the
17th round, and then grabbing 4 of them.
Hear me out...
I play in a 10-team league with 20 roster spots. We start 1 QB, 3
RB, 4 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF. So generally about 25 QBs are taken in
the draft.
After Warner, Manning, Favre, and Johnson, they all look the same
to me. Would I rather have Bledsoe than Plummer? I guess, but
I'd rather have Plummer and a 4th-round pick than Bledsoe and a
17th.
There are so many guys with upside at the bottom of the
cheatsheets that grabbing 4 of them would IMHO almost guarantee
you a top 10 QB.
Cheatsheets.net says that numbers 16-25 are
R Johnson
Culpepper
Banks
Chandler
Young
Aikman
Plummer
Griese
Collins
Grbac
McNabb
If three of those guys aren't in the top 10 at season's end, I'll
eat my hat. Of course, I don't know which ones are going to pan
out, which is why getting lots of them is a crucial part of the
strategy.
The main point is: why on earth would I want to spend an early
pick on a Beuerlein or a McNair or a Brunell when guys like these
are available for free at the end of the draft?
(NOTE: one problem I've had in the past with this strategy is
that even if one of my QBs does bust out with a big year, it
sometimes takes half a year before I figure it out and quit
farting around with my lineup.)
(ANOTHER NOTE: if I had a chance to get Warner or Manning in a
good slot (late 1st), I would probably do it and punt this
strategy.)
Doug
Joe Bryant
You're hitting the essence of the Value Based Draft Strategy. Excellent
points and EXACTLY on target IMO.
Because of the name recognition, folks feel ok taking a mediocre QB much
higher than a mediocre player at another position. Fact is, they're both
mediocre. I agree 100% that you're likely to find some gems later on.
Especially considering your leage requirements. At 10 teams, it's slightly
smaller than the average league. But you make up for that by having an
inordinately high starting roster with 3 RBs and 4 WRs. Except for the QBs
where you start just 1 like most leagues. Your league puts the pressure on,
and therefore drives the value UP, of RBs and WRs based on the starting
requirements. There is no such pressure in your league on QBs.
I think you're right on target with your thinking. I also agree that a
Manning / Warner at the right spot might be too much to pass on. I did the
same myself Monday as the goofy RB crazy FanEx guys took off on wild first
round run of RBs and left me Kurt Warner sitting there at 1.12. Took me
about 3 seconds to jump on that (especially since our league values QBs more
than yours)
Good luck and thanks for the post.
J
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zlingen
even drafting (dynasty league)
zlingen
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peace,
davE