Fantasy Footbal Pro Forecast '99
Russ Munroe
Haven't had a chance to read it thoroughly yet but, 1 glaring omission I did
notice--no rookie review by Mel Kiper! What gives?
Also noticed lots of great articles by many of the regulars in here (Greg
Kellog, Terry Cannon, Mike Nazarek) and their annual experts rankings
(congratulation to Mike for winning last year).
any other opinions on the mag?
PS - also noticed the price went up ($6.99)
Russ Munroe
Adamcapp
Barnes and Noble.
Adam Caplan
-Host StatsWorld Fantasy Football '99 Radio Show and Webcast
http://www.profootballradio.com
-Writer Fantasy Sports Publications
http://www.fspnet.com
Dave Wray
experts rankings!), but boy-o-boy some of the stats predictions got
butchered. I don't mean just the typos either, 2800 yards passing for Kent
Graham + 1700 for Kerry Collins = WAY more yards than the Giants will even
come close to passing for this season.
Dave
Russ Munroe wrote in message
Adamcapp
From: "scogemeist" <trij...@mail.phoenix.net>
Date: Fri, 02 July 1999 02:12 AM EDT
Message-id: <Rc7f3.105801$_m4.13...@news2.giganews.com>
Uh, that's not good if you want to see the magazine again. Less ads mean
less revenue and that means less money and that means reevaluation time when
they review whether they want to put it out again.-
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Uh, you may want to read the Publishers notes in the magazine regarding this
subject.
Adam Caplan
-Host StatsWorld Fantasy Football '99 Radio Show and Webcast
http://www.profootballradio.com
-Writer Fantasy Sports Publications
http://www.fspnet.com
http://www.2gametime.com
scogemeist
Adamcapp wrote in message <19990702105725...@ng-fg1.aol.com>...
>I noticed less ads and more articles which is always good.
Uh, that's not good if you want to see the magazine again. Less ads mean
CLAYTON GRAY
>
did
>notice--no rookie review by Mel Kiper! What gives?
>
Thank goodness.
Clayton
BLSLADI
predict as if they were the starter. Ala Graham goes the whole year 2800 is
reasonable. Goes
w/o saying if Graham is benched or injured during the season 1700 by Collins is
reachable.
>typos either, 2800 yards passing for Kent
>Graham + 1700 for Kerry Collins = WAY more yards than the Giants will even
>come close to passing for this season.
>
>Dave
>
>Russ Munroe wrote in message
>>Just picked it up at B. Dalton last night (Moss on the cover)
>>
>>Haven't had a chance to read it thoroughly yet but, 1 glaring omission I
>did
>>notice--no rookie review by Mel Kiper! What gives?
>>
coachjim
rags printed weeks before the preseason even starts. Think of the money
these rags are making puting out crappy info. Jim
Patrick E. Kopf Jr wrote:
>
> I just bought it a few hours ago, so needless to say I didn't get to go
> over it very well yet. But apparently no one scored any TDs 3 yrs. ago
> except for the QBs. I also noticed that there's nothing by Joe Bryant
> this year. (I was a bit dissapointed in this because I loved his value
> based drafting article last year.) Only other thing I had time to pick
> up on was Barry Sanders the #9 RB??? They readily dismiss the
> 'retirement' talk, so this isn't the reason he's ranked so low. Do they
> really think he's only going to rebound from last year with 6 TDs? If
> you can't tell already, I don't. Anyway, I got some reading to do.
>
> PK
Greg Kellogg
You really think Ad revenues are that important to a magazine with an audited
distribution count of 650,000?
--
Greg Kellogg edi...@komments.com
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Kellogg's Korner http://www.komments.com/korner.html
Patrick E. Kopf Jr
Patrick E. Kopf Jr
on for info, write articles for FFPF and many of them post here as well.
We buy mags for the articles, stats, and player analysis, not for the
rankings.
coachjim wrote:
>
> It's amazing to me that any of the guys in this NG waste their money on
> rags printed weeks before the preseason even starts. Think of the money
> these rags are making puting out crappy info. Jim
>
> Patrick E. Kopf Jr wrote:
> >
Yogi
the 4th of July weekend and we dont want to listen to the wife tell us
about how the price of her nail polish went up.
FF GURUS
magazine in a drawer and then get it out after the 1999 season is over. Then
you can go back and laugh about how wrong most of these so called experts were.
It's easy to predict the top 5 or so players at each position but after that
these "experts" are just throwing darts at a board. The do not understand
football, fantasy or otherwise, better than any other informed fan of the game.
These magazines are the tool of the hopelessly uninformed and desperate. Just
say NO.
GURUS
THE GURUS - ROCK SOLID & BATTLE TESTED!!
CLAYTON GRAY
>It's easy to predict the top 5 or so players at each position but after
that
>these "experts" are just throwing darts at a board. The do not understand
>football, fantasy or otherwise, better than any other informed fan of the
game.
>
Oh yeah....post them right here then.
Clayton
Joe Bryant
Thanks a ton for the kind words. Much appreciated. Obviously, my friend
Emil Kadlec puts out a great magazine and this year isn't any different.
However, if you are interested in taking the Value Based System further, I'm
doing a series of articles on the KFFL site this Summer.
It's called Bryant's Chalk Talk.
http://www.kffl.com/fantasy/football/bryant/
Thanks.
--
Joe Bryant
Sam, Allie, and Jake's Dad
Bryant's Chalk Talk http://www.kffl.com/fantasy/football/bryant/
Co-founder FanEx League http://www.fanexfootball.com
TFL Report http://www.tflreport.com
Bryant Boats, Inc. http://www.bryantboats.com
Patrick E. Kopf Jr <patric...@home.com> wrote in message
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Greg Kellogg
>
> Even though I do not agree with the "GURU,S" most of the time I agree in
> this case. Can you imagine the money these mags are making by putting
> out late outdated material. These mags go to press just after the
> draft. They really don't have a clue. If you are buying them for the
> articles then so be it. Enjoy the articles but don't put much credence
> in their rankings. Good Luck
Actually they go to press quite a bit after the draft. My articles for them
were due in May for Draftbook (though it got moved) and June 10 for the later
magazines. You can figure that the info is about 30 days old when the mag
is published. But for all of you here that don't need/want them, there are
thousands that don't have internet access that do. As to how much money
they make the publishers, hey this is America and I could care less. But
if you think it is easy cash, here's a proposition...write and publish your
own magazine. FFPF has a distribution of 650,000 folks. That IS a lot of
money IF it all went to the publisher. It doesn't, but if you want to put
out thousands of dollars to publish a magazine, well, I'll buy a copy. But
only if you promise to autograph it.
I like the publishers that I know. No one hurts more than Emil Kadlec when
something in one of his magazines isn't perfect. But to get the most up to
date info he can (even if it is late) requires some tradeoffs. Greg Ambrosius
of Fantasy Sports (Krause Publications), Dan and Kelly Grogan of Grogan Sports
and Josh Albert of JTD Publishing have all treated me great. It really annoys
me that some of you, who have never published a thing in your lives, jump all
over minor mistakes. Before you buy, browse the magazine. If something in
it is so terrible that it annoys you so much you feel the need to slander the
magazine and it's publisher, then DON'T BUY IT.
Sorry, nothing personal...just my vent for the day.
ga...@my-deja.com
ffg...@aol.com (FF GURUS) wrote:
> Do not waste your money on this trash. If you do waste your money,
put the
> magazine in a drawer and then get it out after the 1999 season is
over. Then
> you can go back and laugh about how wrong most of these so called
experts were.
>
after that
> these "experts" are just throwing darts at a board. The do not
understand
> football, fantasy or otherwise, better than any other informed fan of
the game.
>
desperate. Just
> say NO.
>
> GURUS
>
> THE GURUS - ROCK SOLID & BATTLE TESTED!!
>
I'll buy all the magazines i like, use them as i like, and enjoy my
FFL season. I might even like to read some articles from people i read
messages from on the newsgroup. Or i might log on and read more garbage
from you GURU types. But i can gaurantee that i won't be taking my
advice, if I take any, from people that must denigrate others to try to
make a point.
How about you GURU GUYS try posting good info, good questions,
insights, or even decent conversation. If you really are GURUS we'll
all recognize it over time. If not then your just joe schmo and its not
a big deal?
RG
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Chip Cella
The Conquistador <Conquer...@Gridiron.org> wrote in message
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coachjim
this case. Can you imagine the money these mags are making by putting
out late outdated material. These mags go to press just after the
draft. They really don't have a clue. If you are buying them for the
articles then so be it. Enjoy the articles but don't put much credence
in their rankings. Good Luck
CLAYTON GRAY
>.... Or we buy the magazines because we can't take our computers into the
little
>boy's room.
Perfect explanation!
Clayton
sol...@mindspring.com
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Shannon O'Leary
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Greg Kellogg wrote in message <3781673A...@earthlink.net>...
>coachjim wrote:
>>
>> Even though I do not agree with the "GURU,S" most of the time I agree in
>> this case. Can you imagine the money these mags are making by putting
>> out late outdated material. These mags go to press just after the
>> draft. They really don't have a clue. If you are buying them for the
>> articles then so be it. Enjoy the articles but don't put much credence
>> in their rankings. Good Luck
>