"Acting White" Quantified
David V. Loewe, Jr
"Cool to be dumb
His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
crippling cultural norm. "
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Huck Kennedy
wrote:
> http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
>
> "Cool to be dumb
>
> His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
> least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
> large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
> friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
> counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
> found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
> they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
> their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> crippling cultural norm. "
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rich hammett
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, David V. Loewe, Jr:
> http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
> "Cool to be dumb
> His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
> least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
> large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
> friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
> counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
> found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
> they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
> their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> crippling cultural norm. "
Odd, I see a few dozen other ways to interpret that data, and
any interpretation would depend on knowing the racial balance
at a particular school in the study.
I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
rich
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No wonder I never make the kewl threads (*snicker*),
Doug
Emperor Wonko the Sane
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, David V. Loewe, Jr:
>
> >http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
> > "Cool to be dumb
> > His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> > that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> > are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
> > least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
> > large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
> > friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
> > counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
> > found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
> > they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
> > their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> > among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> > crippling cultural norm. "
>
> Odd, I see a few dozen other ways to interpret that data, and
> any interpretation would depend on knowing the racial balance
> at a particular school in the study.
>
> I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
> science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
>
You must be very popular with the black kids.
Doug
Sean S
> http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
>
> "Cool to be dumb
>
> His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> [snip]
> their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> crippling cultural norm. "
Or, they coulda watched Chris Rock 10 years ago, and saved all that
$$ on the study.
Sean
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deem...@aol.com
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, David V. Loewe, Jr:
>
> >http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
> > "Cool to be dumb
> > His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> > that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> > are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
> > least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
> > large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
> > friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
> > counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
> > found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
> > they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
> > their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> > among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> > crippling cultural norm. "
>
> Odd, I see a few dozen other ways to interpret that data, and
> any interpretation would depend on knowing the racial balance
> at a particular school in the study.
>
> I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
> science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
>
> rich
> --
>
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rich hammett
Only with the ones good at science.
Bill Lang
wrote
> I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
> science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
This has to be the dumnest non-sequitor snark I have ever read.
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rich hammett
>> I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
>> science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
> This has to be the dumnest non-sequitor snark I have ever read.
I shoulda put "PS" in front of that for some of you.
It does seem to be a perfect analogy, BTW.
deem...@aol.com
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Bill Lang:
>
> > wrote
> >> I wonder what it would show for republicans who learn about
> >> science? I bet they have problems having republican friends.
> > This has to be the dumnest non-sequitor snark I have ever read.
>
> I shoulda put "PS" in front of that for some of you.
>
> It does seem to be a perfect analogy, BTW.
>
> rich
> --
It's definitely anal.
the_andr...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326407
>
> "Cool to be dumb
>
> His most striking contribution to the debate so far has been to show
> that black students who study hard are accused of “acting white” and
> are ostracised by their peers. Teachers have known this for years, at
> least anecdotally. Mr Fryer found a way to measure it. He looked at a
> large sample of public-school children who were asked to name their
> friends. To correct for kids exaggerating their own popularity, he
> counted a friendship as real only if both parties named each other. He
> found that for white pupils, the higher their grades, the more popular
> they were. But blacks with good grades had fewer black friends than
> their mediocre peers. In other words, studiousness is stigmatised
> among black schoolchildren. It would be hard to imagine a more
> crippling cultural norm. "
Acting "white"?
As if "white" people have a lock on scholarship?
Look around this chat machine.
a.
Tom Enright
<the_andrew_sm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Acting "white"?
>
> As if "white" people have a lock on scholarship?
>
> Look around this chat machine.
Wait. You mean we aren't all Asian here?
-Tom Enright
> a.
the_andr...@yahoo.com
Only Hoover's wife.
a.
rich hammett
> It's definitely anal.
It's an obvious analogy, when I see somebody else attacking
education for the last 20 years or so.