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uh-oh...get off my lawn time. Two words that are annoying me

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Eric Ramon

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Jul 25, 2019, 3:31:29 PM7/25/19
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"Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.

By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.

xyzzy

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Jul 25, 2019, 3:44:21 PM7/25/19
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On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
> "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
>
> By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.

Mine:

Continual: just say continuous
Resiliency: just say resilience

Mainly because these words turn up in my workplace all the time.

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 25, 2019, 4:13:40 PM7/25/19
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I have guns under control. They just sorta lie there until someone
picks them up.

Now that I solved that, do you want to talk about people control?

Hugh

JGibson

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Jul 25, 2019, 5:44:11 PM7/25/19
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On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 4:13:40 PM UTC-4, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:31:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Ramon
> <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
> >
> >By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.
>
> I have guns under control.

Apparently, this guy didn't:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/husband-charged-with-manslaughter-in-wifes-shooting-death


Michael Press

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Jul 25, 2019, 7:10:35 PM7/25/19
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In article <817720e1-ca4b-42f6...@googlegroups.com>,
Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
>
> By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.

What about "targeting?"
I got heavy flak here for trashing that usage.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press

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Jul 25, 2019, 7:17:15 PM7/25/19
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In article <81064d72-2a3e-4ccd...@googlegroups.com>,
xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
> >
> > By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.
>
> Mine:
>
> Continual: just say continuous

I think both have their place.

> Resiliency: just say resilience

Yes.

>
> Mainly because these words turn up in my workplace all the time.

--
Michael Press

Tom Enright

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Jul 25, 2019, 8:55:10 PM7/25/19
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On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:

"Journey" & "Story"

"We are all taking this journey together, in the end we can share many
stories [Actual stories that have to be written into a DB]"

-TE

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 25, 2019, 10:46:41 PM7/25/19
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Tell me how it was the gun's fault.

Hugh

xyzzy

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Jul 26, 2019, 8:43:45 AM7/26/19
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Ahh, so you're implementing Agile too then.

xyzzy

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Jul 26, 2019, 8:46:03 AM7/26/19
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On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 7:17:15 PM UTC-4, Michael Press wrote:
> In article <81064d72-2a3e-4ccd...@googlegroups.com>,
> xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
> > >
> > > By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.
> >
> > Mine:
> >
> > Continual: just say continuous
>
> I think both have their place.

What do you see as the difference between them (without looking in a dictionary)?

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 26, 2019, 9:50:59 AM7/26/19
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 05:46:01 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 7:17:15 PM UTC-4, Michael Press wrote:
>> In article <81064d72-2a3e-4ccd...@googlegroups.com>,
>> xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
>> > > "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
>> > >
>> > > By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.
>> >
>> > Mine:
>> >
>> > Continual: just say continuous
>>
>> I think both have their place.
>
>What do you see as the difference between them (without looking in a dictionary)?

The latter has one more letter... and "al" is on the same line on the
keyboard. (I did not look)

Hugh


Hugh

Michael Press

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Jul 26, 2019, 2:18:10 PM7/26/19
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In article <78a0972b-e77b-4fd7...@googlegroups.com>,
xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 7:17:15 PM UTC-4, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <81064d72-2a3e-4ccd...@googlegroups.com>,
> > xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:31:29 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > > "Weaponizing" and "empowering". Well, three..."embolden", that's another one.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, as far as I know, there haven't been any mass murder incidents in the US today. Is now a good time to talk about gun control? Because, you see, I don't want to "politicize" the issue at an inappropriate time.
> > >
> > > Mine:
> > >
> > > Continual: just say continuous
> >
> > I think both have their place.
>
> What do you see as the difference between them (without looking in a dictionary)?


I never engage in these discussions without consulting a dictionary.

My style:

Only continuous for something with no spacial or temporal gaps.

When I want the adverb I use continually.

--
Michael Press

Some dued

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Jul 26, 2019, 2:43:18 PM7/26/19
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Get off my lawn!

Entitled Tesla Jackass Parks on Stranger's Lawn, Steals Electricity for 12 Hours.
https://jalopnik.com/entitled-tesla-jackass-parks-on-strangers-lawn-steals-1836730035

xyzzy

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Jul 26, 2019, 2:51:05 PM7/26/19
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I don't disagree. But the word I am objecting to is "continual" not "continually"

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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Jul 26, 2019, 4:02:05 PM7/26/19
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User story is the dumbest thing in the world.

“Mary the receptionist wants to simply provide availability to our partners (customers) while maintaining her instagram worthy figure at O2 fitness during business hours.”

xyzzy

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Jul 26, 2019, 4:31:53 PM7/26/19
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On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 4:02:05 PM UTC-4, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> User story is the dumbest thing in the world.
>
> “Mary the receptionist wants to simply provide availability to our partners (customers) while maintaining her instagram worthy figure at O2 fitness during business hours.”

As an architect I feel your pain.

I once invented a persona, Barney the corporate security officer. For his avatar I used a picture of Barney Fife from the Andy Griffith show. His user stories usually ended with him going to the fishing hole after finishing the task. It added some fun to our work and my co-workers of our generation appreciated it and it spread to the point we had a full Andy Griffith cast, Andy the CIO, Bea the CEO, Opie the new hire sysadmin, etc. Until some stick in the mud pointed out that we don't have the IP rights to use the Barney Fife picture or anything from that show. So they were all scrubbed of any recognizeable name or character.

The Barney persona is still used today, but now with a bland cartoon nerd image and no Andy Griffith references. In fact I guess the name is the only part that survived corporate boringification.

btpag...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2019, 4:34:18 PM7/26/19
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https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/definitions/continual-v-continuous/

Eric Ramon

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Jul 26, 2019, 4:44:12 PM7/26/19
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On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 1:02:05 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> User story is the dumbest thing in the world.
>
> “Mary the receptionist wants to simply provide availability to our partners (customers) while maintaining her instagram worthy figure at O2 fitness during business hours.”

I wonder what that would be in English.

xyzzy

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Jul 26, 2019, 5:39:24 PM7/26/19
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<btpag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/definitions/continual-v-continuous/
>

Thanks I learned something today.

But no one I hear using continual is using it that way.

btpag...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2019, 6:13:29 PM7/26/19
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I haven’t stopped to even think about it in a long time in that context. I did know continuous is specific to unbroken or uninterrupted. I didn’t stop to think about continual being repeated but with interruptions or breaks. Continual car problems verses a continuous water leak for example.

Michael Press

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Jul 26, 2019, 7:06:23 PM7/26/19
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In article <0ff2ee5a-ff9b-4eb6...@googlegroups.com>,
It is standard English.
_You_ should consult a dictionary.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press

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Jul 26, 2019, 7:13:40 PM7/26/19
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In article <2f8aa4ce-6db5-4b8e...@googlegroups.com>,
btpag...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/definitions/continual-v-continuous/

The morons used an example for continuous
that fits their recommended usage of continual.

The continuous roar of traffic from the freeway.

--
Michael Press

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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Jul 26, 2019, 8:26:29 PM7/26/19
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>> “Mary the receptionist wants to simply provide availability to our partners (customers) while maintaining her instagram >> worthy figure at O2 fitness during business hours.”
>>
> I wonder what that would be in English.

In English?

“Eric the humorless douche wants to make dull comments to other posters (normal people, with personalities) while reading mother jones to learn what he thinks.”

dotsla...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2019, 8:29:57 PM7/26/19
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You do a good job of hiding it for long stretches, but then it leaks out and I'm reminded again that you really put the bag in dbag, smith.

Cheers.

Eric Ramon

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Jul 26, 2019, 9:08:50 PM7/26/19
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without punctuation this is just as unintelligble. Do you mean "Eric, the humorless douche, wants..." or did you mean "Eric, the humorless douche wants..."

your original has a similar problem. Is someone talking to Mary? or describing Mary? But that's not what throws me. "Simply provide availability". Does that mean provide in an easy (i.e. "simple") manner? Or is that "merely"? But *that's* not what throws me!

No, it's this:

"while maintaining her instagram >> worthy figure at O2 fitness during business hours"

I'm interpreting that as her figure is so spectacular that she (or someone else) would take pictures of her and post them on instragram. Is that right? "O2 fitness". Is that some sort of fancy gym that's well known somewhere? I'll google it....hold on...Ah, I see. Some North Carolina thing. So she's going to the gym during business hours. So how could she provide availability if she's not there? Or is that the "simple" availability previously asked about? As in "none"?

Is she forwarding calls to her cell phone and answering these client calls while exercising?

See, those are the questions I have. If you're highlighting how silly the phrase "provide availability" is, then I agree!
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