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Bob Jones

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Jan 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/4/98
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The Big 12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country. Since the down
fall of both Colorado and Oklahoma there isn't a worthy opponent in the
conference. Nebraska should, and has won 11 or 12 games the past 5 years
because of this. The Big 10 on the other hand is one of the top conferences
in the nation. If any team from that conference can go undefeated and then
win their bowl game, they should be No.1 in the country.
Nebraska may have beat a good but not a great Tennessee team(Florida was the
best team again in the SEC) by a huge score, but if anyone who watched the
game could obviously see that Payton Manning was really hurting. He could
not run and had trouble throwing the ball because of the bad knee.

Glen E. Heiman

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Jan 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/4/98
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Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.

Michael Beck

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:09:47 -0800, "Glen E. Heiman" <dak...@home.com>
wrote:

>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
>

right.

Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?

If Michigan had bozo's like that on their schedule, the cornhusker's
would be screaming to high heaven that their schedule was a joke.
Granted, Notre Dame and Colorado had off years, but those teams are
capable of beating anyone on a given Saturday. You should know.
Colorado almost beat the Huskers.


Jon Russell

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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Michae...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Beck) wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:09:47 -0800, "Glen E. Heiman" <dak...@home.com>
>wrote:

>>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
>>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
>>
>right.

>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?

Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.

The split is correct.


Jon Russell

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Minnesotans for Nebraska tCoV (TM)

Just say NO to playoffs


Michael Beck

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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On Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:31:46 GMT, russ...@tc.umn.edu (Jon Russell)
wrote:

>Michae...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Beck) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:09:47 -0800, "Glen E. Heiman" <dak...@home.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
>>>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
>>>
>>right.
>
>>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?
>
>Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.

All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
Case closed.

Mike Healey

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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Michael Beck wrote:
>
>
>
> All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
> Case closed.


Then Sagarin must be smoking dope. He has CFU #45, above 5 of the
mighty Big 10 ---> Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, &
Minnesota.

Marty McMahone

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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Michael Beck <Michae...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<34b30330...@snews.zippo.com>...

> >>>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
> >>>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
> >>>
> >>right.
> >
> >>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?
> >
> >Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.
>
> All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
> Case closed.

Let's see. According to Big 10 transitivity logic. Central Florida beats
Toledo easily, Toledo beats Purdue easily. Purdue is better than any of
these three teams.

Case not so closed

Marty

Jon Russell

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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Michae...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Beck) wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:31:46 GMT, russ...@tc.umn.edu (Jon Russell)
>wrote:
>>Michae...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Beck) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:09:47 -0800, "Glen E. Heiman" <dak...@home.com>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
>>>>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
>>>>
>>>right.
>>
>>>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?
>>
>>Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.

>All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
>Case closed.

Other than Minn/ISU, we don't know that do we?

Sorta like saying UNL ought to have won the whole ball of wax because
they would be favored over UM head-to-head.

Both teams played dogs. Both teams played top 10 competition.
Michigan's opponents had less disparity between top and bottom. UNL's
was larger.

So what?

Stupendous man

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Mike Healey wrote:


==>Then Sagarin must be smoking dope. He has CFU #45, above 5 of the
==>mighty Big 10 ---> Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, &
==>Minnesota.

Why is the Sagarin rating the answer to every matchup question ?

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Trent Woodruff

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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>Michael Beck was cut from the Oregon State football team for saying...

>>On Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:31:46 GMT, russ...@tc.umn.edu (Jon Russell)
>>wrote:
>>>Michae...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Beck) wrote:

>>>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?

>>Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.

>All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
>Case closed.

Oh, I get it! You're the argument against a Michigan education!

Trent
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Mike Healey

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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Stupendous man wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Mike Healey wrote:
>
> ==>Then Sagarin must be smoking dope. He has CFU #45, above 5 of the
> ==>mighty Big 10 ---> Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, &
> ==>Minnesota.
>
> Why is the Sagarin rating the answer to every matchup question ?
>


Cause it works in our favor? And because some others keep bringing up
how the pansies on Michigan's schedule are better than the pansies on
Nebraska's schedule. How else do you compare the #90 team to the #95
team? The regular polls only go up to 25. Less they play each other,
it can only be speculation.

Michael Beck

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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On 5 Jan 1998 19:50:53 GMT, "Marty McMahone"
<Martin_...@Baylor.EDU> wrote:

>Michael Beck <Michae...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
><34b30330...@snews.zippo.com>...

>> >>>Peyton was hurting? How about the Big overrated 10 being hurting all
>> >>>year long. Michigan built up its case against a bunch of losers.
>> >>>
>> >>right.
>> >

>> >>Like Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State?
>> >
>> >Minnesota, Indiana and Northwestern.
>>
>> All three teams would beat Akron, Central Florida, and Iowa State.
>> Case closed.
>

>Let's see. According to Big 10 transitivity logic. Central Florida beats
>Toledo easily, Toledo beats Purdue easily. Purdue is better than any of
>these three teams.
>
>Case not so closed
>
>Marty

and Purdue beats Missouri easily who essentially beats Nebraska. Case
still closed.

JEC8686

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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In article <68pd22$87k$1...@news.iag.net>, "Bob Jones" <fir...@iag.net> writes:

>The Big 12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country. Since the
>down
fall of both Colorado and Oklahoma there isn't a worthy opponent in
>the
conference. Nebraska should, and has won 11 or 12 games the past 5
>years
because of this. The Big 10 on the other hand is one of the top
>conferences
in the nation. If any team from that conference can go undefeated
>and then
win their bowl game, they should be No.1 in the country.
Nebraska
>may have beat a good but not a great Tennessee team(Florida was the
best team
>again in the SEC) by a huge score, but if anyone who watched the
game could
>obviously see that Payton Manning was really hurting. He could
not run and
>had trouble throwing the ball because of the bad knee.

Did you ever hear of Kansas State. You know. 11-1 Kansas State. Fiesta Bowl
Champion Kansas State. Kansas State that hammered Syracuse 35-18. You know
Syracuse.That team that put a 34-0 ass-whooping on Wisconsin.

You Big10ers are stuck in a time warp. You think this is still the 1950s and
the best football in the country is played in the Big 10. You refuse to accept
that a team from the Great Plains could actually be good. You think because
they don't have the history of Michigan or Ohio State, they can't be a serious
national contender. It would be one thing if the Big 10 could actually back up
this arrogance. The reality is that the college football world has left the Big
10 in the dust. The vultures are picking over what's left of those 5 Big 10
teams that lost by a combined total of 97 points. Take a reality check before
you post anymore of this nonsense.

John


Andre Ervin

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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Michael Beck (Michae...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: On 5 Jan 1998 19:50:53 GMT, "Marty McMahone"
: <Martin_...@Baylor.EDU> wrote:

Your looking pretty dum rite now.
--
dre


Trent Woodruff

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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>Stupendous man was cut from the Oregon State football team for saying...

>>On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Mike Healey wrote:

>>Then Sagarin must be smoking dope. He has CFU #45, above 5 of the

>>mighty Big 10 ---> Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, &

>>Minnesota.

>Why is the Sagarin rating the answer to every matchup question ?

Maybe you could tell me this...why was it in 1994?

P.J. Hartman

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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Stupendous man <set...@musc.edu> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Mike Healey wrote:

>==>Then Sagarin must be smoking dope. He has CFU #45, above 5 of the
>==>mighty Big 10 ---> Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, &
>==>Minnesota.


>
>Why is the Sagarin rating the answer to every matchup question ?

Because, historically, the Big Ten supporters have used Sagarin as
their yardstick. This year, though, that stick is slapping them
square across the face.


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