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Trump’s 4D chess!!
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xyzzy
Oct 1, 2019, 12:24:27 PM10/1/19
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-children-corruption/599176/
Quoting:
Defenders of Trump on this matter would seem to be conceding that a
President Kamala Harris could pressure foreign leaders to investigate Don
Jr., Eric, and Ivanka Trump for corrupt business dealings in their
respective countries, marshaling the leverage of U.S. foreign policy to
secure answers.
The inquiry could extend to anything related, however tangentially, to the
official doings and responsibilities of their father, which would plausibly
encompass nearly all of the Trump Organization’s actions around the world.
Harris could run the whole operation through a personal attorney chosen for
his or her personal and political loyalty, bypassing the procedures and
checks against corruption embedded within the federal bureaucracy. And she
could do this to the Trump kids even if one of them were running against
her for president––indeed, it would not even matter if her motives were
obviously venal.
So, Trump supporters: Do you think, as I do, that it would be an abuse of
power for President Harris to investigate Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka in this
fashion? Or are you okay with the precedent that Trump is trying to set?
Quoting:
Defenders of Trump on this matter would seem to be conceding that a
President Kamala Harris could pressure foreign leaders to investigate Don
Jr., Eric, and Ivanka Trump for corrupt business dealings in their
respective countries, marshaling the leverage of U.S. foreign policy to
secure answers.
The inquiry could extend to anything related, however tangentially, to the
official doings and responsibilities of their father, which would plausibly
encompass nearly all of the Trump Organization’s actions around the world.
Harris could run the whole operation through a personal attorney chosen for
his or her personal and political loyalty, bypassing the procedures and
checks against corruption embedded within the federal bureaucracy. And she
could do this to the Trump kids even if one of them were running against
her for president––indeed, it would not even matter if her motives were
obviously venal.
So, Trump supporters: Do you think, as I do, that it would be an abuse of
power for President Harris to investigate Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka in this
fashion? Or are you okay with the precedent that Trump is trying to set?
Futbol Phan
Oct 1, 2019, 2:54:43 PM10/1/19
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the_andr...@yahoo.com
Oct 1, 2019, 3:05:28 PM10/1/19
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LOL. WHOOPS!!!
Of course, the rules change with every change in party, so each side will adopt the other sides rules as soon as there is a new executive.
Of course, the rules change with every change in party, so each side will adopt the other sides rules as soon as there is a new executive.
Eric Ramon
Oct 1, 2019, 3:13:14 PM10/1/19
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On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 12:05:28 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> LOL. WHOOPS!!!
>
> Of course, the rules change with every change in party, so each side will adopt the other sides rules as soon as there is a new executive.
sadly true. I don't see why fans ('cause that's what most are) don't recognize it and say "stop already!"
> LOL. WHOOPS!!!
>
> Of course, the rules change with every change in party, so each side will adopt the other sides rules as soon as there is a new executive.
the_andr...@yahoo.com
Oct 1, 2019, 3:21:34 PM10/1/19
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>I don't see why fans ('cause that's what most are) don't
>recognize it and say "stop already!"
Agree all around.
>recognize it and say "stop already!"
Until voters realize both parties are power hungry and vote for fiscally responsible representatives at every level, it’s going to get worse.
There are many who’ve been led to believe that the opposite party is truly going to ruin your life. The reality is, both parties have been doing that for decades.
Ken Olson
Oct 2, 2019, 12:10:33 AM10/2/19
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha................................
Ken Olson
Oct 2, 2019, 12:11:49 AM10/2/19
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Tom Enright
Oct 2, 2019, 8:15:01 AM10/2/19
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Biden, so bringing-up Trump's kids is asinine.
-TE
“On my first day as president, I will sign an executive order that puts a total moratorium on all new fossil fuel leases for drilling offshore and on public lands. And I will ban fracking—everywhere,”
-Elizabeth Warren
Futbol Phan
Oct 2, 2019, 11:11:41 AM10/2/19
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On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 7:15:01 AM UTC-5, Tom Enright wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 12:24:27 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> > https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-children-corruption/599176/
> >
> > Quoting:
> >
> > Defenders of Trump on this matter would seem to be conceding that a
> > President Kamala Harris could pressure foreign leaders to investigate Don
> > Jr., Eric, and Ivanka Trump for corrupt business dealings in their
> > respective countries, marshaling the leverage of U.S. foreign policy to
> > secure answers.
> >
> > The inquiry could extend to anything related, however tangentially, to the
> > official doings and responsibilities of their father, which would plausibly
> > encompass nearly all of the Trump Organization’s actions around the world.
> >
> > Harris could run the whole operation through a personal attorney chosen for
> > his or her personal and political loyalty, bypassing the procedures and
> > checks against corruption embedded within the federal bureaucracy. And she
> > could do this to the Trump kids even if one of them were running against
> > her for president––indeed, it would not even matter if her motives were
> > obviously venal.
> >
> > So, Trump supporters: Do you think, as I do, that it would be an abuse of
> > power for President Harris to investigate Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka in this
> > fashion? Or are you okay with the precedent that Trump is trying to set?
>
> Begging the question, a complete red herring. This isn't about Hunter
> Biden, so bringing-up Trump's kids is asinine.
>
>
Cheetolini sure seemed to think it was about Hunter Biden.
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 12:24:27 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> > https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-children-corruption/599176/
> >
> > Quoting:
> >
> > Defenders of Trump on this matter would seem to be conceding that a
> > President Kamala Harris could pressure foreign leaders to investigate Don
> > Jr., Eric, and Ivanka Trump for corrupt business dealings in their
> > respective countries, marshaling the leverage of U.S. foreign policy to
> > secure answers.
> >
> > The inquiry could extend to anything related, however tangentially, to the
> > official doings and responsibilities of their father, which would plausibly
> > encompass nearly all of the Trump Organization’s actions around the world.
> >
> > Harris could run the whole operation through a personal attorney chosen for
> > his or her personal and political loyalty, bypassing the procedures and
> > checks against corruption embedded within the federal bureaucracy. And she
> > could do this to the Trump kids even if one of them were running against
> > her for president––indeed, it would not even matter if her motives were
> > obviously venal.
> >
> > So, Trump supporters: Do you think, as I do, that it would be an abuse of
> > power for President Harris to investigate Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka in this
> > fashion? Or are you okay with the precedent that Trump is trying to set?
>
> Begging the question, a complete red herring. This isn't about Hunter
> Biden, so bringing-up Trump's kids is asinine.
>
>
J. Hugh Sullivan
Oct 2, 2019, 1:11:42 PM10/2/19
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Cheetolini sure seemed to think it was about Hunter Biden.
You appear to have one thing in your favor. Nowadays people justify
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Cheetolini sure seemed to think it was about Hunter Biden.
what anyone does by pointing out how bad the other guy was/is.
I'm looking for my innocence.
Hugh
btpag...@gmail.com
Oct 2, 2019, 1:18:02 PM10/2/19
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Hugh,
There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of attack than really being worried about the issue since they didn’t seem worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attacks on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of attack than really being worried about the issue since they didn’t seem worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attacks on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
Futbol Phan
Oct 2, 2019, 1:29:37 PM10/2/19
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On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, btpag...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hugh,
>
> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of attack than really being worried about the issue since they didn’t seem worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attacks on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
I must have forgotten. Which attacks on Obama related to his having sought the aid foreign governments to assist his election effort?
> Hugh,
>
> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of attack than really being worried about the issue since they didn’t seem worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attacks on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
Tom Enright
Oct 2, 2019, 1:35:48 PM10/2/19
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
"Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him “space” until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin."
-TE
Futbol Phan
Oct 2, 2019, 1:55:40 PM10/2/19
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btpag...@gmail.com
Oct 2, 2019, 2:03:04 PM10/2/19
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Who asked to Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent? Trump didn’t do that
Tom Enright
Oct 2, 2019, 2:09:43 PM10/2/19
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-TE
dotsla...@gmail.com
Oct 2, 2019, 2:19:12 PM10/2/19
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Gotti wants to know where the heck you were when they were picking his jury.
"All I said was life would be better if that scumbag wasn't around anymore. That could mean anything!"
Why does Trump bring up Biden on that call? There can be no innocent answer to that question.
Cheers.
"All I said was life would be better if that scumbag wasn't around anymore. That could mean anything!"
Why does Trump bring up Biden on that call? There can be no innocent answer to that question.
Cheers.
btpag...@gmail.com
Oct 2, 2019, 2:33:06 PM10/2/19
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Even when they went after the mafia for tax evasion they at least had evidence.
Tom Enright
Oct 2, 2019, 2:40:38 PM10/2/19
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ask the Ukrainians to dig up dirt on a political opponent? Nope.
Seeking cooperation in an investigation of the 2016 election is
"digging-up dirt." I'm old enough to remember the Mueller Investigation,
but oddly I don't remember your objection to that.
-TE
“I would like you to do us a favor. I would like you to find out what happened with the whole situation with Ukraine, with CrowdStrike. The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation.”
-President Trump
J. Hugh Sullivan
Oct 2, 2019, 4:02:44 PM10/2/19
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, btpag...@gmail.com wrot=
>e:
>> Hugh,
>>=20
>> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both=
> sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of att=
>ack than really being worried about the issue since they didn=E2=80=99t see=
>m worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attack=
But how did Trump violate the C.?
Hugh
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, btpag...@gmail.com wrot=
>e:
>> Hugh,
>>=20
>> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both=
> sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of att=
>ack than really being worried about the issue since they didn=E2=80=99t see=
>m worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attack=
>s on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
>
>I must have forgotten. Which attacks on Obama related to his having sought=
>
> the aid foreign governments to assist his election effort?
I'm not aware of any.
But how did Trump violate the C.?
Hugh
Futbol Phan
Oct 2, 2019, 4:13:44 PM10/2/19
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Ken Olson
Oct 3, 2019, 5:18:54 AM10/3/19
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were laying still. <humor>
J. Hugh Sullivan
Oct 3, 2019, 9:21:21 AM10/3/19
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
How did Trump violate the C.?
Hugh
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 3:02:44 PM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
>> <sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, btpag...@gmail.com wrot=
>> >e:
>> >> Hugh,
>> >>=20
>> >> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both=
>> > sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of att=
>> >ack than really being worried about the issue since they didn=E2=80=99t see=
>> >m worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attack=
>> >s on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
>> >
>> >I must have forgotten. Which attacks on Obama related to his having sought=
>> > the aid foreign governments to assist his election effort?
>>
>> I'm not aware of any.
>>
>> But how did Trump violate the C.?
>>
>> Hugh
>
>Echolalia can be treated.
It's not working.
>On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 3:02:44 PM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
>> <sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, btpag...@gmail.com wrot=
>> >e:
>> >> Hugh,
>> >>=20
>> >> There is some of that. But there is also, and this is reasonable on both=
>> > sides, a modicum of pointing out that people are looking for angles of att=
>> >ack than really being worried about the issue since they didn=E2=80=99t see=
>> >m worried about the issue when their guy was in office. A number of attack=
>> >s on Obama were of this stripe, and of course now on Trump.
>> >
>> >I must have forgotten. Which attacks on Obama related to his having sought=
>> > the aid foreign governments to assist his election effort?
>>
>> I'm not aware of any.
>>
>> But how did Trump violate the C.?
>>
>> Hugh
>
>Echolalia can be treated.
How did Trump violate the C.?
Hugh
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