Punters/kickers in the CFL
Keith Willoughby
mind: "Many seasons ago, punters and kickers often played on the
offense or defense".
I remember reading a Street and Smith's article on "50 Ways to
Improve the NFL" a few years back. The author indicated that one
of the ways to improve the game of football would be to eliminate
these so-called "specialist" players: the ones who only kicked or
punted the ball during the course of a game. His idea was to
force teams to use kickers or punters who regularly played other
positions.
I don't know if I agree completely with his premise, but the fact
remains that several years ago, kickers and punters in the CFL
regularly played other positions. Perhaps it's because of
increased roster sizes, but you don't see it as much anymore. I
have compiled a partial list of CFL kickers and punters who went
the extra mile:
1) Jack Abendschan, K and OG with Saskatchewan
2) Wally Buono (yes, him), P and LB with Montreal (yes, them)
3) Terry Bulych, P and RB with Saskatchewan
4) Don Jonas, K and QB with Winnipeg (am I remembering this one
correctly?)
5) Al Ford, P and RB,WR,DB with Saskatchewan
6) Johnny Evans, P and QB with Montreal and Edmonton
7) Lui Passaglia, K/P and WR (backup) with BC (early in his
career - it was on a pass reception that he scored his 1 TD in
the CFL).
8) Jan Carinci, K and RB,DB with Toronto and BC
Are there any others?
Regards,
Keith
Steve Nagler
>
>1) Jack Abendschan, K and OG with Saskatchewan
[ deleted for brevity]
>8) Jan Carinci, K and RB,DB with Toronto and BC
>
>Are there any others?
Somebody (Butch?) already mentioned Mike McTague.
A few others:
Larry Robinson (Stamps) : PK, defensive back and (3rd string) QB - which he
actually played a couple of times.
Jim Furlong (Stamps): Punter, linebacker
Jackie Parker (Eskimos): One of the all-time CFL greats. QB, DB, PK, everything
Bill Van Burkleo (sp?): Calgary/Ottawa : Punter, DB, last resort QB
Bernie Faloney (Hamilton) QB and punter
Basically, at least through the 60's almost every CFL kicker played another
position. Dave Mann was a great punter with the Argos, but I can't think of
what else he did.
-SN
Keith Willoughby
>1) Mike McTague, P/WR with Calgary and Montreal in the 1980s.
Mike even managed to boot the ball with Saskatchewan in 1985.
Regards,
Keith
Keith Willoughby
>Wasn't there a quarterback for Montreal in the late 70's or early
>80's by the name of Sonny White who also kicked?
>
>I could be wrong about the name, but for some reason that name
>rings a bell.
Sonny Wade.
Regards,
Keith
Craig Smith
Larry Robinson DB-PK with Calgary
Billy Van Burkleo QB-DB-PT with Calgary
Jim Furlong LB-PT with Calgary
Neal Beaumont DB-PT with BC
Gary Lefebvre WR-PT with Montreal & Edmonton
Moe Racine OT-PK with Ottawa
Ed Ulmer DB-PT with Ottawa & Winnipeg
Dick Adams DB & PT with Ottawa
Joe Zuger QB-DB-PT with Hamilton
Sonny Wade QB-PT with Montreal
Don Sutherin DB-PK with Hamilton & Ottawa
Charlie Sheppard FB-PT with Winnipeg
Gene Lakusiak DB-PK with Winnipeg
Dave Mann DB?-PT with Toronto
Most of these guys were real good football players as well as good kickers.
Craig T. Smith
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David Yang
Wasn't there a quarterback for Montreal in the late 70's or early
80's by the name of Sonny White who also kicked?
I could be wrong about the name, but for some reason that name
rings a bell.
-Dave
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kwil...@acs.ucalgary.ca (Keith Willoughby) writes...
>While riding the C-Train this morning, the thought crossed my
>mind: "Many seasons ago, punters and kickers often played on the
>offense or defense".
>
>1) Jack Abendschan, K and OG with Saskatchewan
^^
Oh man! Can you imagine trying to block the punt of a guy built like
a house? Can Chris Walby punt? :-) Can anyone imagine Hec Pothier or Bob
Poley lining up to punt? :-)
>7) Lui Passaglia, K/P and WR (backup) with BC (early in his
>career - it was on a pass reception that he scored his 1 TD in
>the CFL).
Loooooo was a QB at SFU and was the Lions thrid string QB for years. I
remember his punt in the '85 Grey Cup where he elected to pass instead of kick
and made the completion!
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Theodore Kamena
>remains that several years ago, kickers and punters in the CFL
>regularly played other positions. Perhaps it's because of
>increased roster sizes, but you don't see it as much anymore. I
>have compiled a partial list of CFL kickers and punters who went
>the extra mile:
>
>1) Jack Abendschan, K and OG with Saskatchewan
>2) Wally Buono (yes, him), P and LB with Montreal (yes, them)
>3) Terry Bulych, P and RB with Saskatchewan
>4) Don Jonas, K and QB with Winnipeg (am I remembering this one
>correctly?)
>5) Al Ford, P and RB,WR,DB with Saskatchewan
>6) Johnny Evans, P and QB with Montreal and Edmonton
>7) Lui Passaglia, K/P and WR (backup) with BC (early in his
>career - it was on a pass reception that he scored his 1 TD in
>the CFL).
>8) Jan Carinci, K and RB,DB with Toronto and BC
>
>Are there any others?
>
Here's a few:
1) Mike McTague, P/WR with Calgary and Montreal in the 1980s.
2) Guilio Caravatta, K/P/QB currently with B.C. His QB
credentials are marginal, but he has taken a couple snaps there
this season and on a couple other occasions. I wouldn't include
Pete Gardere of Sacramento because I don't think he's taken a
snap at QB.
3)?? Gerry Organ, Ottawa. He was a K/P when I watched him, but I
thought I heard that he'd played a little receiver at some point.
4)Mervyn Fernandez, B.C. - In his last season with the Lions (the
first time around), Merv punted a couple games when Lui was
trying out with the Browns. Got hurt making a tackle and ended up
missing about six games.
Butch Kamena
Carl Gordon Mellesmoen
: In article <Nov18.071...@acs.ucalgary.ca> kwil...@acs.ucalgary.ca (Keith Willoughby) writes:
: >From Butch Kamena:
: >
: >>1) Mike McTague, P/WR with Calgary and Montreal in the 1980s.
: >
: >Mike even managed to boot the ball with Saskatchewan in 1985.
: >
: >Regards,
: >
: >Keith
: Wasn't there a quarterback for Montreal in the late 70's or early
: 80's by the name of Sonny White who also kicked?
: I could be wrong about the name, but for some reason that name
: rings a bell.
Sonny Wade was his name.
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Stuart Collings
Keith:
What about Ted Gerela??? PK and DL (or was it OL?) for the Leos, when his
little brother was a PK in the Niffle (early 70's???)
Stuart Collings
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Craig Smith
> >2) Wally Buono (yes, him), P and LB with Montreal (yes, them)
> >3) Terry Bulych, P and RB with Saskatchewan
> >4) Don Jonas, K and QB with Winnipeg (am I remembering this one
> >correctly?)
> >5) Al Ford, P and RB,WR,DB with Saskatchewan
> >6) Johnny Evans, P and QB with Montreal and Edmonton
> >7) Lui Passaglia, K/P and WR (backup) with BC (early in his
> >career - it was on a pass reception that he scored his 1 TD in
> >the CFL).
> >8) Jan Carinci, K and RB,DB with Toronto and BC
> >
> >Are there any others?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Keith
> >
> Keith:
>
> What about Ted Gerela??? PK and DL (or was it OL?) for the Leos, when his
> little brother was a PK in the Niffle (early 70's???)
>
> Stuart Collings
> ae...@freenet.carleton.ca
>
Ted Gerela played running back for the Leos but it was a very rare
occurence. He wore jersey # 35.
Craig Brown
late '70s or early '80s when Lui was injured. Holt was a wide receiver here,
who later ended up being a tight end in the NFL. He could really hammer the
ball, but I don't think he had much accuracy, as a result I think he was only
responsible for kick-offs, and maybe punts, but not field goals.
Craig.
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Scott Rixon
>
>>While riding the C-Train this morning, the thought crossed my
>>mind: "Many seasons ago, punters and kickers often played on the
>>offense or defense".
>>
>>career - it was on a pass reception that he scored his 1 TD in
>>the CFL).
Ironically it was also the first points he ever scored.
>>Are there any others?
Didn't SB Jock Climie of Ottawa do some backup punting last season?
The 94 FFR book has him down for 15 punts last year.
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Robin Griller
: >While riding the C-Train this morning, the thought crossed my
: >mind: "Many seasons ago, punters and kickers often played on the
: >offense or defense".
: >
Don't forget Harry Holt, a tight end for B.C. who also did the kick
offs (but not the field goals) and later did the same thing for
Cleveland for one year (then broke his leg, ending his career, in a
pre-season game the next year).
Robin
Theodore Kamena
I remember Harry Holt doing kickoffs in 1981 and 1982. Correct me
if I'm wrong, but I thought he was the last guy to regularly play
tight end in the CFL, too.
The Lions have had a number of "other" guys handle kickoffs for
Lui. Holt, Jan Carinci, Greg Vavra, Guilio Caravatta come to
mind.
Butch Kamena
Theodore Kamena
>
>Didn't SB Jock Climie of Ottawa do some backup punting last season?
>The 94 FFR book has him down for 15 punts last year.
>
>The Islander
Scott,
I think Terry Baker might have been hurt for a couple games or
something. I also remember that one of Climie's "punts" was at
the end of a half. He caught a pass at about the 35, turned
upfield and kicked the ball through the end zone for a single.
Butch Kamena
My name is Robert McEachern
There was Gerry Organ in Ottawa in the seventies and early eighties. He was
the punter/placekicker and backup wideout. Not very fast but good hands.
Also in the early seventies there was a backup Canadian QB and punter with the
BC Lions named Eric Guthrie. Others off the top of my head, Sonny Wade
(Montreal QB/P), Joe Zugar ( Hamilton QB/P).
Rob McEachern.
John Aegard
> are there any others? (punters/kickers who play another position)
Well, there was Mike McTague in Calgary a few years ago. Played slotback
when he wasn't punting.
Johnzo.